Part 1: Will A Mora Companion Survive Hard Use Testing?
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- I was always wondering how much hard use a Mora Companion could take before it broke...I had never tested that concept...until today! Take a look as I give my Mora Companion carbon steel blade a really tough time to see if it can survive hard use. Hint...it breaks.
How you removed the knife from the log when it got stuck is exactly THE WRONG WAY to do it. If a knife gets stuck while batoning, don’t try to pound it out. Just wedge another piece of wood into the cut and pound the wedge in a bit. The log will wedge open and you can slide the knife right out, easy as pie, and without destroying your blade.
Also, I understand this is a torture test, but a Mora can EASILY be used to baton ANY wood, ANY size, and not fail. When batoning a larger piece of wood (with a diameter wider than the knife is long), don’t start off by trying to pound the knife through the center of the log. Instead, place the edge of the knife close to the edge of the log. Baton off a thin slice of the log, turn the log and baton off another thin slice. Repeat until the log has shrunk in diameter enough to baton through the center.
ALSO, there is NEVER NEVER NEVER a reason why someone would need to baton through an entire log. Worst case scenario, you start batoning through a log an inch or so. Then, you shape another hefty piece of wood into a wedge. Insert the wedge into the cut you have started with the knife, pound on the wedge a couple of times until you can free the knife, then pound on your wooden wedge again until the log splits.
Now, you still have your knife, you have split the log, and all is well.
These tests I see (a lot of people do them) are just not realistic. They teach people to expect things from their knives that are just absurd, and get them into some really bad habits. A knife is meant for cutting/slicing. That’s it. In an emergency, sure, baton with it. But do it smart, and you can use a $12 Mora your entire life and NEVER worry about it failing.
In these tests, it’s not the knives that fail, it’s the failure of people to understand how to use a knife properly, and a really silly trend of people expecting way WAAAAAY to much out of their knives. You wouldn’t jump into a Volvo and try to jump sand dunes with it, and then consider the car a failure if you tried and it broke down, would you? Of course not. You use the correct tool for the job. In a pinch, you may have to push a tool a LITTLE past its designed limits, but you do it easy, and do it smart, and it won’t fail.
I think you failed to understand that in this video, I don't care about technique...I don't care about the "right way" to wedge a piece of wood apart...blah blah blah. It was simply about beating the snot out of the knife to see how much abuse it could take...period. I understand your comments perfectly. You're not wrong about a single thing you said. I have had that knife for almost 5 years now...and I used it a TON and carefully, and successfully. It's only the second knife I've ever broken...and I've handled well over 100 different blade on camera on my channel alone...never mind all the others I have not yet had a chance to film. So I get it man...trust me...I get it. But proper technique was intentionally NOT used in this video.
outer limitless 👍
The idea is to dumb it down... I don’t know shit and what can my knife do or take... there is no such thing as abuse.. only kids, not tools.
No offense but you guys are the reasons why people keep batoning in the first place. You tell people batoning is wrong when the entire point of videos is like this is to test the FUCK out of a knife unrealistically. If you really don't want batoning to be a thing then comment or share videos that show why it's improper/ vids that do it properly rather than be screaming at the wrong videos
Most knife,bushcraft etc UA-camrs,don't know nothing about knives.However because knife companies and nowdays youtubers see everything as money,they have managed to convice people,that a knife has to take a turn and become a very poorly perfoming tool.They have got into peoples brain,that a knife is an AXE and not a knife.How many of you guys are going to the jungle to fight Nazis or Ninja Zombies,for you to need a knife thicker than a Mora? None off you right? I have many bushcraft knives and the one that works better and in the same time is the most comfortable of all the others..guess what..it''s a Mora...cheers
Worth mentioning that this was the standard Mora Companion knife you were testing, not the thicker Heavy Duty version.
It was impressive that this knife stood up to far more than might be expected.
Definitely an extreme abuse test. It's good to see how well your old mora stud up. If anyone abused their knife like this in a survival situation, they would deserve the outcome.
It would be interesting to see it put against another knife of the same value .
There is no such thing as broken knives, only smaller knives. Grind yourself a new tang, put it in a handle, and presto! Mini Mora!
I like your style!! Haha, yep, mini little Mora!
That is still an outstanding knife for the price. I have a Companion too and it has taken abuse on some occasions, but I never try to overdue it. This video was good to show that that little sucker can really take some abuse, I feel better now, THANKS.
I think it's an impressive amount of abuse for a rat tang little blade. The thing can absolutely perform!
@@outerlimitless Yes the one thing that always troubled me was that rat tang, but like I said, After seeing your video I feel much better. I do have a backup to the backup that is small, light, full tand, and sharp with a convex edge. I like it, but I love the Mora.
Thanks for the video! I finally bought a couple of Mora's the Robust pro and the companion HD.
I'll admit I was kind of a knife snob. With my bark river's and full custom bushcraft knives like my Jacklore!!. Anyway I'm unbelievably impressed with the morakniv and would recommend them to anyone just starting out or a seasoned bushcrafter .
Almost any Mora is a great choice...very nice for the money and quite comfortable too!
The good thing about a fixed blade is that even if it breaks it doesn't closes on your fingers like a folder.
I have my kids learn on a fixed blade for that exact reason. I have had some sketchy close calls with a folder, that's for sure!
Very informative! My personal conclusion is that thin knives are for cutting only. Thank you!
Mora... the little knife that could! Love those things.
Overall awesome blades...can't blame the blade for my pounding on it. The thing did what it could!!
"In this case, it's not what the knife will do to the work but what the wood will do to the knife" 😂. Man oh man, I'm telling you, there are some funny characters out there 😂😂. Anyways it was a good video
Perfect for light batoning and nice basic tasks! I'm sold!
Some people will say the knife failed. Others will say YOU failed to to use your knife correctly. In the end, I still enjoy watching videos of people breaking knives for fun. So please don’t stop.
Did you watch Part 2? I will be filming a Part 3 as well!
I so much prefer reviews like this. Much better than desk top reviews.
Don't feel bad, my Fiskar scissors
won't cut through steel rebar.
My bolt cutters
don't slice vegetables either.
Maybe they're unreliable or defective.
That is the wealest hold of the handle. You basically had it in a vise and beat the handle outward from the blade. It STILL kept goin though
Hey! Thank you for this video, your money, your knife, showing us what the knife will take. Thank You
Thanks! That knife had a good life! But check out part 2! The knife lives on...for now!
I own one and just ordered another - I have the stainless steel Companion, and the other is a carbon Clipper 840. Personally, I'd like to baton, saw and chop as little as possible. Shave enough dry kindling into hairs to get a fire going, and start adding larger pieces of fuel accordingly. For a woodstove in your house you want 4 or 5 months worth of well seasoned split wood to get through a winter. Out camping and bushcrafting? Sawing and splitting/batoning aren't even necessary, unless everything is completely soaking wet; in that scenario batoning is absolutely required to get at dry wood. You did prove these knives are super tough. Way beyond their intended capacity, and that is great. That's some hard wood you were pounding on. You just convinced me these two knives are going to last me for life. Thanks man!!
I thought it was an interesting test...always fun to find the limits. And great knvies...worth more than their minor price tag, that's for sure!
impressive AF for the price goddamn
Great test Eric. It's always useful to know just how far you can push your knife. Looking forward to part 2.
Yeah, I'm thinking about what part 2 might be. I think with the right epoxy this blade is salvageable, but obviously that changes the test. Couple suggestions from viewers to give the robust a try...i might do that.
outer limitless Yeah reckon testing the robust is a great idea.
I know your intent was to see how much abuse it would take to break the knife, and you succeeded. That knotty log test went the only way it could have gone. It would have been a serious challenge for any knife. Also I push hard on the handle with a full grip when I baton to keep the tip from diving.
I've seen bk7 and 9 break like that. The mora companion hd holds up better to abuse than most hard use "survival" knives. Joe X showed all of this in his videos.
Cut the knife handle in half length wise, weld the tang back together, epoxy the handle back on around the tang and get back to the test with the same knife. Rinse and repeat until there is nothing left of the mora.
I love your thoughts! Check out part 2! You'll like it!
@@outerlimitless i did. that glue was incredible, i expected it to fail any second. That mora blade had excellent temper as much as it could bend.
You should have used the Heavy Duty companion as it's made for batoning.
I might try that. I was more curious about how durable the regular companion was...it held up surprisingly to a bunch of thumping!
@@outerlimitless Yeah it's a tough knife for sure. It would be really interesting to see how the heavy duty version holds up too.
The heavy duty version blades the same length, I don't believe it'd have done any better. That log looks more like something you'd chop with an axe haha
AWESOME testing 👌 well done sir. Your review made a significant impact on my purchase choices.
Thanks, this was a fun one. Did you see part 2?
I’m gonna guess they can handle hard use but the great thing is if it does break ur out $20 still sucks but ur not gonna cry 😭 over it I own 3 moras the robust the wood handled one forget the name and the garberg which definitely won’t break cost more but it’s a beast it will go toe to toe with any knife it’s size love that bat fantastic batoning beast 😈
if you are going to use the Mora companion as a lever, you should have use the Mora companion HD as it is designed to be used as a lever.
honestly the failure was exactly what i expected to happen, i had no doubts about the blade strength.. but staying in the handle on these non full tangs always is the weak spot especially if you beat on them in an awkward way, and in this case i dont even consider this a failure, its a act of destruction what you did :D
This was absolutely NOT a failure by any means. Impressive how tough these blades are. Did you watch part 2!
Morakniv knives are well made,will serve you for a lifetime if properly maintained!
The handle coming loose is the most common failure.
Yeah, obviously it was a tough test for this knife...a little over the top, but worth trying!!
No amount of tang is going to compensate for the lack of common sense and two left hands
Ok just saw the damage you caused. What did you expect trying to process such a large piece ? Tip: use narrower logs
I guess you missed the whole premise of this video? The point was to over use and abuse.
Pretty good for a knife like that to take so many blows from a baseball bat ! Messed up the bat to ! The companion HD should be even tougher .
I was impressed!! If you look for part 2, you'll see what happened to it next!
Thanks O L , I will watch parts 2 soon 👍 As I understand , they secured the tang in the HD by profiling the tang , instead of just a straight tang , so it should be more than strong enough for batoning away . Videos like yours may seem “brutal” for a person who like knives, but it is very interesting to see what will happen with that particular knife in an extreme situation. Cheers 👍🇺🇸🇩🇰
Fixin tools is aok!
Coming from the part 2 video. It is a very helpful and relatively scientific testing video, great video!
Thanks! I think overall that little knife performed wonderfully! I have some thoughts about a PART 3, but we'll see what happens. Fun to learn and test regardless!!
This is what happens when urban explorers pretend to be woodsman. Wrong tool for the wrong job.
Did the title pretty much explain what was going to happen? If you've watched more than a minute of my channel you'll see I'm more than an urban explorer
What is the thickness of the blade? 2mm?
2.5
@@smegmoren370 carbon is 2mm, ss 2,5mm.
It's shame to destroy it like that but it was done in name of safety and durability..I would use hatchet,axe or my 6" $10 bucks Canadian Tire beater,full tang on,didn't brake yet.Was that 2 or 2.5 mill thickness?
Yeah, it served me well, that companion was with me for quite a while...but a good test in the quest for answers! Not sure on the exact thickness...but the typical companion carbon steel version.
What belt do you use on your strop?
Is by Surgisharp...
Mine is the 1" x 30" to fit my grinder
what a lil beast! thanks for your video man..
Glad you enjoyed it...did you catch part 2?? That little mora is a tough blade for it's given size and build!
It just became a spear point.
Carbon or stainless?
Great question! That is the carbon version...I do have both, but I generally prefer the carbon blades. It would definitely make a difference for strength.
I have a cheap ass kukri from bud k. It's 1/4" thick. That's the only blade I will baton with.
You are definitely over taxing that knife with trying to split such large logs.
Nice video! Quite impressive how much abuse this little Mora could take. I wonder how well the Mora companion HD would do in comparison to this regular companion...
Definitely impressive for such a light weight and cheap knife. Bottom line, Mora kicks ass and is a knife that everyone should have. I agree about the HD...I will likely do a follow up at some point.
So....basically the mora companion is a very capable knife for light batoning and camp chores...got it, thanks! lol
That took a pretty good beating!
That little knife really held up! Did you see part 2?
@@outerlimitless not yet but will def check it out!
Cool... here's the link. That little knife is impressively tough! I'm thinking about doing a part 3.
ua-cam.com/video/PILFgxG41GE/v-deo.html
I forgot to mention that I have a video on my channel where I grew a full beard and shaved it off with the Mora.
I was very impressed it was as good or better than a straight razor.
Wow, I just watched it! That's impressive! Crazy how clean it shaved! Nice! Glad you shared!
@@outerlimitless Glad you were impressed. My barber's were impressed too, but most females thought I was crazy. My Trac 3 razor certainly wouldn't have removed that beard, but that Mora WOW.
thanks man for your test! Can you do the same test with the Mora Garberg and with the Kansbol?
I don't own those blades, but I'll do anything if you want to donate the blades?
Is that carbon or stainless?
That's the carbon version.
Very cool thank you
Gotta pound on a blade from time to time! The little blade did all right!
Watching this destruction is insanity at it's finest.
Haha, make sure you watch part 2!
@@outerlimitless I loved it. I have a half dozen Mora blades, none of them have failed on me yet.......I've battoned a truck load of wood with mine, no failures yet.
Great knive survival ready to buy from amazon
Companion HD is not available in my country for some reason, so does the Robust, but I did find this older one and order it, costing me around USD 28, BUT HELL, your video made me convinced it was worth it!
What do you think?
Any Mora will treat you well. I think they do a great job and after beating the snot out of mine, it is still a serviceable knife. I would feel confident with any of their models regardless of thickness. If you're going basic tasks you'll be in great shape!
It's a 4" puuko style knife that was designed for minor stress tasks like carving, for what it is it preformed surprisingly well. Don't get people who expect this thing to be able to do the same stuff a 12" $300 bowie can.
It did perform VERY well. I had always wondered how much you could hammer on one...it did great! Not that I would do that out in the field, but maybe some minor batoning for sure.
I agree Sergei.
I don’t see anyone making any claims that this knife is a replacement for an overpriced huge blade.
It’s simply one of multiple tools a survivalist can have in their pack to make some tasks easier without taking up a lot of room or adding weight. For its price range it performs exceptionally well and there are thousands and thousands of people who swear by their Moras.
Or a 60$ rat knife
It broke cause it wasn't long enough
It definitely had a rough day...haha!
6:49 It would be an excellent test if you did that with 100+ logs.
5min of my life I'll never get back.
You should watch part 2
At 1:22 you can see the knife seems to be darker near the base of the blade. I noticed that in a couple of the other views as well. You mention in the comments you used the knife for 5 years before this test. Is it possible that you may have drawn the temper near the base of the blade, or hardened the blade in the tang (usually you want the tang softer than the blade so it doesn't break). Not saying it is intentional, just wondering if the blade was maybe damaged. Also, is there a part 2? Bought a new one and tested again, maybe?
Nah...no damage. That's patina. I patina my carbon steel...and the tip gets more use than next to the handle...so the handle section is darker. I have that knife right here next to me. Only damage is from me pounding it through a log with another log!
@@outerlimitless Ok makes sense, thanks. It just kinda seemed blue by the base, and I recognize that as often a result of heat.
It was a good observation. Sometimes funny thinks happen! I actually have used gun blue on this knife so it does have a blueish tint. You are not far off in what you were seeing...good comments!
@@outerlimitless Its funny how people reacted to your video. Also, if this was knife had a full length tang, that tang still would have snapped. Lots of "full tang' knives have skeletonized tangs. Maybe the blade would not have started coming out of the handle if it had a full length tang, but any tang that narrows is liable to break when you hammer on the handle. Easy solution is not to hammer on the handle. Hammering on the blade seems fine. Thanks for letting us see how much abuse this thing can take! I think I will be buying a Mora allaround, the 4". You could get one of those for less than 15 bucks and try to break it.
Your Mora will keeel :)
Hahaha...it's actually still alive in my collection. I need to epoxy it together one of these days, but it's still here...and it WILL KEEEL!!
I need at least an inch of blade showing for batoning or else it’s just a battle but it’s a great destruction test same exact thing happened to one of my kabar’s but it was a gift from my brother and spent 2 years in Iraq with no knife oil or sharpening stones and he said he used it for everything digging opening cans etc literally 5 hrs of work with a grinder some stones sandpaper and epoxy to get her back to slicing paper love the video can’t go wrong with a destruction test on a blade😁👍✌️.
Unless its an actual bushcraft knife batoning wood is retarded. Even Kabars arent built for it. Knives meant to baton wood are almost a quarter inch thick and have full tangs. "Survival" knives are modified military fighting knives that are never used properly by prepper types and companion style knives are camp knives meant for light woodwork and preparing food. These guys beating the shit out of 15-20 dollar camp knives and rat tail military knives shouldnt be surprised when they shatter or start to come apart its not at all what they are designed to withstand.
it isn't made for batoning anyway it is made for finer work like feather sticking and cutting
Yep, not made for batoning, but the purpose of the video was to pound the snot out of the thing....
Do a Becker BK2 vs Mora Companion test
Haha, could probably use the BK2 to baton straight through the Mora!
@@enzowarren9832
I saw the BK2 in an episode of naked and afraid.
The man had it. They were a really nice 'couple' although she was lesbian. She was really a nice person also. He as well.
But that BK2 fared well. He got around what needed to be done. So, fair enough.
Renato here in disguise as Ve suvius. Ain't that something. Not many people can do that.
The HD companion would totally take it also the gray robust its a beast Eric, try buying the new robust Pro and doing this you will be shocked guaranteed. Also a Mora Garberg would be the best blade for this stuff I love it...
LOL you acknowledge you were a "bit abusive" for that knife ROFL😂....,YEAH ya think 😁 to funny.
So if you're lost in the woods don't be a dummy and use your only sharp tool like Eric did in his video LOL...
That was a cool show, I'd love to see the Pro Robust, its only $15-17 and makes an excellent wood handle mod. I use those blades to make killer knives with, they are way tougher than the companion brother you gotta get one.
I like the idea about pounding on the robust...I might do that...depends on how things go, but that would be a solid test. Good idea!
The HD is the exact same knife just .025inch thicker and carbon steel thats harder to snap if you use the knife to pry shit. Its mounted in the handle the exact same way.
You have no right to do this test! I think you're under the impression that you do, because you bought it with your own money and the knife is yours, about right?
The whole premises of this video is beyond perplexing and quite frankly downright triggering😠!
Make it stop, make it stop, please someone make it stop!
I just want to say Happy New year, and thank you for doing this test, it's pretty much what i expected.
We all love our Mora knifes, Long Live Mora except in your presence😉😁✌.
Haha! Love it and happy new year to you. I guess you didn't see part 2 yet?
They will break if u use a small knife for tasks that a big knife should do. They will break if u use a full-tang large knife for task that bench cutter should do. Absolute biased video.
I don't think you understand the definition of the word biased. Biased is about OPINION. I simply demonstrated the knife and how it performs on tasks that people ask or debate if it can be done. That is not biased...simply called demonstrating the capability and discussing the results.
If you don't know when to use a wedge well stay on the couch. People think the have to just use a knife, lemmings.
None of what you were doing had any purpose. You say why would you have to cross baton like that.
Oh it had a purpose...to destroy the Mora Companion. And it worked! It had a purpose...curiosity!
If you hit the blade only in the center, while holding the handle with two fingers, it would not have broken. You have been pounding on it from the tip to the forward portion of the handle, and it was bound to break. If you are going to split logs, use an ax. Using a proper tool is essential to efficiency and safety. Knives designed capable of splitting thick logs you demonstrated usually come with 4/1 inch thick blades.
I guess you completely missed the purpose of this video? I've split plenty of wood to know what to do, but thank you for the advice I guess?
@@outerlimitless I guess I did. Then I wonder why would anyone want to find out if a knife NOT designed for such an "abuse" would break or not? Did you expect your Mora would survive it? Thanks for the reply.
@@deador9192 They way I see it is that people want to know what they can use their tool for. In this case, it can be used for probably more than most would expect. People say you can't baton with a rat tang Mora. This proves that wrong. In fact, it did much more heavy work without breaking than my Schrade schf52m... so using and experimenting helps gain a better understanding of the limitations of equipment. Do you feel bad for my Mora? It lived a good life. I still have it... nothing good epoxy can't fix.
Of course this is an abuse test, but kids, keep in mind, splitting logs with a knife, any knife, is the dumbest idea the modern survivalist could have come up with. That's why the axe is probably just as old as the knife in human history, if not older!
Super annoyed...I responded to all my most recent comments, but stupid UA-cam Creator Studio ditched them. I'll be responding as I can...sorry!!
I prefer a knife because I am not that good with an axe. I trust splitting with a knife and it's more controlled...safer when I'm deep in the mountains. Obviously this was just a hard use/abuse test.
In a survival situation, yes, it's good to know you can rely on your knife for splitting wood, but otherwise, there is another good reason I never recommend batoning - it will dull the edge a lot faster. Why not keep your edge in good sharp condition for other jobs?
@@silvanigra it's people like you that make me hate the internet
I don't even know what survival situation means anymore. We used to talk about camping. Sometimes when I was camping and didn't have an axe it would make sense to split wood with a big knife. I now know this knife can handle that task. Could come in handy. Survival? You mean a SHTF scenario? Someone (or a big group of people, more likely) with their a guns already out is going to take all your gear anyway. You mean you get lost on a trip or your plane crashes? Doubt you will have an axe, maybe you just have a knife. How is that stupid to think about? Besides, do you really need to split logs to survive? The whole survival discussion is silly. I just wanted to know how much abuse this cheap popular knife can take. Answer - alot. yay!
I keep coming back here to cringe, whenever you say "through this knot" I get a horrible feeling in my stomach lol
Haha! Love it! Did you see part 2? It's even better! Haha... thanks for watching!
@@outerlimitless Yeah! Thank you for doing these, as much as they are painful to watch haha. I know what my first bushcraft knife will be now :)
@@LiftedBuddha awesome! Glad to help! It'll treat you well! Cheap enough, get yourself 2 if them... carbon for the Bush and stainless for the kitchen! You'll be glad you did!
Your abuse on this knife is only stupid. And doesn't proof nothing at all. This knife is great tool but for this kind of battonig. Period.
You'll really like part 2. You should go comment over there too
I mean this is a bit much for this knife lol I own a small axe and a Kukri for heavy duty stuff like big hunks of wood. I’d use it for carving small stuff, minor tasks. I never use my small blades for stressful jobs...seems impractical. I understand the point of the video, it’s just not what I would use it for lol impressive though.
Yeah, I am totally with you...it was more about the curiosity. I've heard people ask the question and wonder how much abuse a Mora can take...this sorta shows an example.
outer limitless fair enough, I have no argument against that.
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
Legit test. 👍
Thanks! I had fun with this one. Did you see Part 2? Thanks for watching!
If your looking to break it just strap it to a stick of dynamite.
Very stupid batoning
This batoning, or batoning in general?
Yes, the maker of this video did an excellent job of very stupid batoning, which was his point - to see if it would survive.
This man seems clumsy.
It's a shame how you use a knife!
Did I hurt its feelings? I have over 80 fixed blade knives...and currently 4 Mora's. I can buy another one, or a dozen more for that matter. Why is it a shame? I USE my knives...I thrash and beat on them. That is fun and I enjoy it. Oh, and I own them...they are mine to do what I wish with them. I use fixed blade knives literally every single day, many many times a day... So why is it a shame?
It's a stress test to see how much abuse it can take before it breaks.