Tasting the less iconic or celebrated vintages is the real truth, you get to see how producers fair in less-than-perfect conditions, and there's so much character there. But we do have some '89 if you need!
I would love to see you guys do a video ranking all of the classified growths of Bordeaux according to your personal opinions. Would be interesting to see if the first growths hold up.
Good stuff, but I believe his explanation of what a ‘super second’ is is somewhat off. By my understanding it’s those wines on the 1855 list of growths from 2-5th that if we were to re rank, would likely be up the First’s backside, and that includes Palmer, Lynch Bages, Montrose, Cos d’estournel and maybe some others. Right Bank has nothing to do with it.
Super second is not an official Classification and is subjective to personal interpretation or bias opinion. The term was made up by some wine critic. The same goes for the terminology of Super Tuscans. Regardless, imho the 1855 Classification system is obsolete and should be completely shafted as many unclassified wineries have been purchased by wealthy billionaires or large corporations who also own the 1st growths and that now have access to unlimited funding to improve vinification technology that parallels or exceeds the 1st growths. Also, many of the same master winemakers consult across all the Chateaus. It's a very convoluted and commercial industry. Burgundy is worse when it comes to value. Unfortunately, fine wine has become an investment vehicle and the 1855 Classification system ranked wines according to price, thus continues to be detrimental to the commercialization of the industry.
Great episode. I hope to see more Bordeaux wines on the channel. Glad the bottle was great. Happy drinking.
We hope the same David! Thanks for watching legend
Bravisimo gentlemen! Cest Magnifique. A voutre saunte. Happy Friday to you both.
You are always too kind dear sir! Glad you enjoyed
Tasting the less iconic or celebrated vintages is the real truth, you get to see how producers fair in less-than-perfect conditions, and there's so much character there. But we do have some '89 if you need!
We always need good vintages of aged wine! What’s your fav?
I would love to see you guys do a video ranking all of the classified growths of Bordeaux according to your personal opinions. Would be interesting to see if the first growths hold up.
Great suggestion! Thank you
@@GotSomme Troy’s Tasting Room did a great video on it: ua-cam.com/video/sv3x8YEblpw/v-deo.htmlsi=Rf7AUSMGSqsstq9u
Good stuff, but I believe his explanation of what a ‘super second’ is is somewhat off. By my understanding it’s those wines on the 1855 list of growths from 2-5th that if we were to re rank, would likely be up the First’s backside, and that includes Palmer, Lynch Bages, Montrose, Cos d’estournel and maybe some others. Right Bank has nothing to do with it.
Thanks Scott! I’ll screenshot and forward to Carlos for him to read! Angus
Super second is not an official Classification and is subjective to personal interpretation or bias opinion. The term was made up by some wine critic. The same goes for the terminology of Super Tuscans. Regardless, imho the 1855 Classification system is obsolete and should be completely shafted as many unclassified wineries have been purchased by wealthy billionaires or large corporations who also own the 1st growths and that now have access to unlimited funding to improve vinification technology that parallels or exceeds the 1st growths. Also, many of the same master winemakers consult across all the Chateaus. It's a very convoluted and commercial industry. Burgundy is worse when it comes to value. Unfortunately, fine wine has become an investment vehicle and the 1855 Classification system ranked wines according to price, thus continues to be detrimental to the commercialization of the industry.
Maybe some others? It’s crazy not to include Léoville Las Cases, Ducru-Beaucaillou and Pichon Lalande… and maybe Pontet Canet