Remember, Eobard had said he needed the accelerator to explode much sooner than the original timeline, and in order to do so he killed and took Wells' identity
The fact all the cameras mean Wells knew all they were doing and their suspicions and still didn't do anything until they wanted to expose him is crazy xd
Its not Complicated as of now. Barry and Thawne were fighting in Future when Thawne got angry and went back in time to kill Barry as a kid. Barry also went back in time to stop Thawne. Barry(Flash) saved his younger self and moved him away from House and Went back to future. Thawne got more angry and killed Barry's mom. Then he tried to go back to his time in future but his speed got declined and he was stuck here. He needs Flash speed to go back to his time in future. He has been stuck here for 15 years. He wants to save Flash because only using Flash's speed, he can go back in future.
This is wrong. Thawne had already traveled back in time when he got angry and decided to kill Nora Allen. Thawne went back in time to kill young Barry, Barry chased him back in time and saved his younger self, thawne angered that Barry had saved himself decided to kill his mom in hopes that he would never become the flash which he then shortly after realized he was stuck in that time and needed the flash only he would no longer become the flash because of his mothers death which is why thawne did everything he did to create him
@@EncryptionError Except that Thawne clearly said that Harrison and Tess originally create the particle accelerator together at a much later time, and he needs to kill them and take Harrison's position to create the particle accelerator years earlier, because he isn't willing to wait so long before going back to the future. So Thawne was NEVER Wells in the original loop, which means the original Flash which Thawne was pissed at never had their mother killed by the Reverse Flash when he was a kid. However as Wells said to Barry before, time is self correcting, and will find a way to mirror events even if you made a change. The reason Thawne wants to make Barry the Flash is because he's treating it like something called a Pre-Destination Paradox, if the Flash never exists, then he will never become the Reverse Flash, and thus would never have traveled back in time, etc...
@@Acilican this is also not entirely true. The original flash did have his mother killed by reverse flash, although eobard traveled back in time and killed Barry’s mom an alternate timeline was not created this is both of their origin points, eobard going back in time and killing Nora Allen, getting stuck and having to create the flash which also creates him as well, eobard going back in time is part of the “original” timeline because although he’s messing with time it’s always meant to happen and flash and eobard are in kind of a self created loop and can’t exists without the other
@@EncryptionError That's not quite how it works in the flash, they explain it a bit in season 2 when they talk about Thawne's time remenant. Otherwise, Savitar should've always happened, flashpoint should've always happened, the city getting destroyed by a Tsunami should've always happened, etc.
Eobard Thawne just wants two things. 1st to go "Back to the Future!" he came from. 2nd to kill Barry, to prevent him form becomeing a more powerful/faster speedster than him.
Funny how you still don't understand many things. Like Eobard was stuck there when he killed Barrys mom. He didn't have the speed anymore and that's why couldn't travel back to the future. To get the speed again, Barry has to become The Flash. Also he was mad because Barry as a kid escape. His plan was travel to the past to kill Barry as a kid,but the adult Barry save his younger version, so Eobard was mad and killed the mom thinking that would traumatize Barry, so he wouldn't become the Flash. He didn't know at that point that he needs Barry as the Flash for his own speed.
When thawne said "I came to kill Barry" he meant the "child Barry" stop asking why he choose that spot to fight because he didn't. Thawne came back in time to kill "child Barry" flash(barry) came there to save "child Barry". In all of this Barry's mother died
You'll typically enter REM sleep about an hour and a half after hitting your bed. The first round of REM in a night lasts about 10 minutes, with the stage getting longer and longer each time you enter REM in one night1. It's also the deepest stage of sleep, where you'll experience1: Quickened breathing
I know you already have watched far more episodes after this one, but what I think Gideon was meaning when she said "he was angry because you escaped" is because Eobard traveled back in time to kill young Barry, but Flash took him out of the house, so Eobard got mad that the kid escaped, so in his anger, killed his mother.
There is no loop, at least not the one your talking about. eobard coming back in time to create the flash has always been the cause and in that way is a “loop” eobard “messing with time” is the natural course of the timeline he is meant to go back in time to kill his mom and create the flash
One of the coolest things about this show is that none of these characters are their prime form, except for Eobald Thawne. So picking up until this episode. Imagine there was a Timeline 00, where Barry get his powers at age of 30 and have his adventures, he eventually learns time travel and engage in numerous battles with Eobald Thawne. The reason you will learn in further episodes. Eobald comes back to kill young Flash but cant, so he kills Nora. In the Zero Timeline Eobald never had killed Nora, she probably was killed by a common thief, just like it was in first flash comicbooks. He never took Harrison Wells identity, it really was a accident. But because Flash never existed, the his powers also never were triggered. So Eobald need the Flash to Exist so he can fully exist. Same way he need Eddie to marry other woman to preserve his bloodline. And about the afection. This version of Eobald has his layers. Don't forget the kids at star labs are tech geniuses. So he likes them because he sees himself in their aspirations. There's a lot to unpack about Eobald Thawne and you'll keep learning as the show progresses. Great video btw, i like you theorize a lot. Thats the fun of time travel
The reason Eobard hates Barry is so stupid. Which is a shame because he is such a cool character. Of course he was going to stop eddy from getting with Iris because they would make him cease to exist, but eddy wouldn’t be with iris if he didn’t set off the particle accelerator earlier and put Barry in a coma which put her with Eddy. Probably why he has issues connecting with the Speed force. He has created a situation where he may eliminate himself from the timeline depending on what happens to others so his existence is in flux
At some point, you really do need to start watching the arrow show because they will have crossovers in the future that won’t make sense or you will only get part of the story of
this is not a spoiler when he is talking about all the times, they fought he is talking about in the future that he came from not the past. This is stuff you have already learned you know he is from the future and stuck in the past and i think you are just thinking about it too hard so when he says all the times they fought he is talking about the future he is from. I hope that clears it up a little for you.
actually the eobard that killed barrys mom comes probaly from a century later, he and flash fights and eobard gets stuck. the current eobard that looks like wells isnt the one who time travels to kill his mom. hes yet to be born in the future and when he does get born and grows up then he comes to kill his mom. idk but i was able to figure that that out when i watched this show for the first time probably because i too have some knowledge about time travel and watched many time travels shows as well.
DUDE HE IS IN FOR A SUPRISE I AM STARVING BUT IM DROPPING EVERYTHING TO WATCH THIS, EATING DROPPED, LIKE TAYLOR SWIFT SAID IN SPARKS FLY DROP EVERYTHING NOW AND IM SORRY FOR COPYING THE SAME COMMENT OVER AND OVER AGAIN BUT ITS TRUE
Wow Barry gets a brighter redder better suit, he marries Iris , he becomes the director of the CCPD and he creates the AI Gideon and all of this in 10 years time , imagine thinking your life is going nowhere but then you find out nah your life will become infinitely better like I think anyone would be incredibly excited just as Barry was 🤯🙌
The paper does change over the seasons to reflect the type of heroes in action. But the main part stays the same. And as we know gets a massive change and ignores everything they set up because the original showrunner was fired for being a creep and was the only one besides Berlanti who knew the whole direction the show was meant to take. But real world problems aside, and this isn't a spoiler Thawne literally says it in episode 17. Barry isn't meant to become the flash until 2020. In the original timeline Thawne comes from Barry would have been stuck in a 4 year time loop. Vanishing in Crisis with the fight against Thawne and the shadow demons becoming the lightning to strike himself and start over. Explaining how Thawne is able to have such a long history with Barry despite him only being active from 2020-2024.
In the Comics, Thawn was obsessed with the flash, so much so he created a machine to gain speed like him. He then attempted to "save" a group of people by creating his own disasters, only for Flash to save them instead and reveal his plot. Devastated, he then discovered that the identity of the Reverse Flash was himself, thus, he is stuck in a loop, yes.
Barry, so to speak, is like an arc-reactor for the speed force. He creates it when he runs and its existence is what gives him his speed, as well as thawne his. When he goes back in time and kills Nora he creates a timeline in which the Flash doesn’t exist. This means Thawne’s speed is gone too. So thawne needs to create the Flash so that the speed force exists and train Barry to get fast enough to get him home. You can think also of the speedforce as a battery that grows as Barry gets faster. Because Barry is slow right now, he can use the power without issue but because thawne is relatively crazy fast he depletes the reserve he can tap into quickly. Note how in prior episodes where we see him use his speed, it’s unstable. It comes and goes and he has to charge it with his device. That is why.
I hate when people use the word “timeline” and “cannon” without actually knowing what they’re talking about. Barry traveling to another timeline and doing whatever there is still “cannon” because it’s our Barry it’s not a different Barry it’s not a different story him traveling to another timeline and doing whatever there is a part of our Barry’s story
Season 1 and 2 were great, even for a superhero hater. Season 3 and 4 are also fine. But from season 5 to 9 it starts to be all bullshit. Pandering too much towards the comics.
Remember, Eobard had said he needed the accelerator to explode much sooner than the original timeline, and in order to do so he killed and took Wells' identity
I can’t wait for my man to react to season1-4 within the first year hopefully, prime flash show
16:50 The Reverse Flash wanted to kill young Barry to prevent him to become The Flash in the future.
The fact all the cameras mean Wells knew all they were doing and their suspicions and still didn't do anything until they wanted to expose him is crazy xd
Its not Complicated as of now. Barry and Thawne were fighting in Future when Thawne got angry and went back in time to kill Barry as a kid. Barry also went back in time to stop Thawne. Barry(Flash) saved his younger self and moved him away from House and Went back to future. Thawne got more angry and killed Barry's mom. Then he tried to go back to his time in future but his speed got declined and he was stuck here. He needs Flash speed to go back to his time in future. He has been stuck here for 15 years. He wants to save Flash because only using Flash's speed, he can go back in future.
This is wrong. Thawne had already traveled back in time when he got angry and decided to kill Nora Allen. Thawne went back in time to kill young Barry, Barry chased him back in time and saved his younger self, thawne angered that Barry had saved himself decided to kill his mom in hopes that he would never become the flash which he then shortly after realized he was stuck in that time and needed the flash only he would no longer become the flash because of his mothers death which is why thawne did everything he did to create him
@@EncryptionError literally what i said🤡
@@EncryptionError Except that Thawne clearly said that Harrison and Tess originally create the particle accelerator together at a much later time, and he needs to kill them and take Harrison's position to create the particle accelerator years earlier, because he isn't willing to wait so long before going back to the future. So Thawne was NEVER Wells in the original loop, which means the original Flash which Thawne was pissed at never had their mother killed by the Reverse Flash when he was a kid. However as Wells said to Barry before, time is self correcting, and will find a way to mirror events even if you made a change.
The reason Thawne wants to make Barry the Flash is because he's treating it like something called a Pre-Destination Paradox, if the Flash never exists, then he will never become the Reverse Flash, and thus would never have traveled back in time, etc...
@@Acilican this is also not entirely true. The original flash did have his mother killed by reverse flash, although eobard traveled back in time and killed Barry’s mom an alternate timeline was not created this is both of their origin points, eobard going back in time and killing Nora Allen, getting stuck and having to create the flash which also creates him as well, eobard going back in time is part of the “original” timeline because although he’s messing with time it’s always meant to happen and flash and eobard are in kind of a self created loop and can’t exists without the other
@@EncryptionError That's not quite how it works in the flash, they explain it a bit in season 2 when they talk about Thawne's time remenant. Otherwise, Savitar should've always happened, flashpoint should've always happened, the city getting destroyed by a Tsunami should've always happened, etc.
18:09 nice date for publishing this video
lmao exactly what i thought
"Super hero hater" my ass! Lol you are definitely in all the way! Or at least a good deal of the way 😂
Tbf, he acknowledged this last episode or the one before that one.
Might change the title by Season 2 ;D
@@RobinoyoReacts haha nice... Look forward to seeing what you think of Arrow. The CW shows were Soo good at the beginning.
@@RobinoyoReacts I am not sure you will survive season 1 finale.
Eobard Thawne just wants two things. 1st to go "Back to the Future!" he came from. 2nd to kill Barry, to prevent him form becomeing a more powerful/faster speedster than him.
Eobard was trying to kill young Barry. But because future Barry got his younger self out of the house, Eobard got angry and killed Nora instead.
Don’t spoil it for him
@@mancitykshah2737 It's already been covered in a previous episode, he just didn't remember.
So fun fact I recently learned. gideon is played by Morena Baccarin, more famously known for playing Inara on Firefly.
she is deadpool's girl
She's Lee Thompson in Gotham
Gideon is the most underused character in The Flash. Well...besides Wally.
The time travel stuff hurts my brain😂. I just go with it sometimes😂
I'm getting so hyped! Giddeon is making me giddy. 😂
Funny how you still don't understand many things. Like Eobard was stuck there when he killed Barrys mom. He didn't have the speed anymore and that's why couldn't travel back to the future. To get the speed again, Barry has to become The Flash. Also he was mad because Barry as a kid escape. His plan was travel to the past to kill Barry as a kid,but the adult Barry save his younger version, so Eobard was mad and killed the mom thinking that would traumatize Barry, so he wouldn't become the Flash. He didn't know at that point that he needs Barry as the Flash for his own speed.
When thawne said "I came to kill Barry" he meant the "child Barry" stop asking why he choose that spot to fight because he didn't. Thawne came back in time to kill "child Barry" flash(barry) came there to save "child Barry". In all of this Barry's mother died
Chill dude he doesn't know
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I know you already have watched far more episodes after this one, but what I think Gideon was meaning when she said "he was angry because you escaped" is because Eobard traveled back in time to kill young Barry, but Flash took him out of the house, so Eobard got mad that the kid escaped, so in his anger, killed his mother.
Oh it just keeps getting better and better! I can't believe I caught a reaction quickly❤
I think this will be one of ur favourite shows by the end
I love just looking at the timeline from this show. It is so very complex
I love how Eobard literally helped them with the frequency 😂 i mean, he knew what they were up to. (As shown in the next episode/one after)
Don't spoil the episodes for him.
There is no loop, at least not the one your talking about. eobard coming back in time to create the flash has always been the cause and in that way is a “loop” eobard “messing with time” is the natural course of the timeline he is meant to go back in time to kill his mom and create the flash
Lmao Caitlin is SUCH a terrible liar.
One of the coolest things about this show is that none of these characters are their prime form, except for Eobald Thawne. So picking up until this episode. Imagine there was a Timeline 00, where Barry get his powers at age of 30 and have his adventures, he eventually learns time travel and engage in numerous battles with Eobald Thawne. The reason you will learn in further episodes. Eobald comes back to kill young Flash but cant, so he kills Nora. In the Zero Timeline Eobald never had killed Nora, she probably was killed by a common thief, just like it was in first flash comicbooks. He never took Harrison Wells identity, it really was a accident. But because Flash never existed, the his powers also never were triggered. So Eobald need the Flash to Exist so he can fully exist. Same way he need Eddie to marry other woman to preserve his bloodline. And about the afection. This version of Eobald has his layers. Don't forget the kids at star labs are tech geniuses. So he likes them because he sees himself in their aspirations. There's a lot to unpack about Eobald Thawne and you'll keep learning as the show progresses. Great video btw, i like you theorize a lot. Thats the fun of time travel
Hope you watch the whole show
I am anxiously waiting for your next video!!❤
Go for the next!! :P
The reason Eobard hates Barry is so stupid. Which is a shame because he is such a cool character.
Of course he was going to stop eddy from getting with Iris because they would make him cease to exist, but eddy wouldn’t be with iris if he didn’t set off the particle accelerator earlier and put Barry in a coma which put her with Eddy.
Probably why he has issues connecting with the Speed force. He has created a situation where he may eliminate himself from the timeline depending on what happens to others so his existence is in flux
At some point, you really do need to start watching the arrow show because they will have crossovers in the future that won’t make sense or you will only get part of the story of
Already 7 episodes in Arrow on Patreon!
18:00 broo couldn't you post this like tomorrow or yesterday...
exactly what i thought
this is not a spoiler when he is talking about all the times, they fought he is talking about in the future that he came from not the past. This is stuff you have already learned you know he is from the future and stuck in the past and i think you are just thinking about it too hard so when he says all the times they fought he is talking about the future he is from. I hope that clears it up a little for you.
Let’s gooo! ⚡️
Arrow on YT soon?? :p
Also this is getting good
Probably not a good idea referencing a he twin towers and releasing the episode on September 11th my guy.
actually the eobard that killed barrys mom comes probaly from a century later, he and flash fights and eobard gets stuck. the current eobard that looks like wells isnt the one who time travels to kill his mom. hes yet to be born in the future and when he does get born and grows up then he comes to kill his mom. idk but i was able to figure that that out when i watched this show for the first time probably because i too have some knowledge about time travel and watched many time travels shows as well.
DUDE HE IS IN FOR A SUPRISE I AM STARVING BUT IM DROPPING EVERYTHING TO WATCH THIS, EATING DROPPED, LIKE TAYLOR SWIFT SAID IN SPARKS FLY DROP EVERYTHING NOW AND IM SORRY FOR COPYING THE SAME COMMENT OVER AND OVER AGAIN BUT ITS TRUE
Reverse Flash No Want Kill Mother Barry just Barry.
But Flash Future Save Him Kid.
Reverse Flash Idea Kill Mother Barry for Barry Never Stand up
Wow Barry gets a brighter redder better suit, he marries Iris , he becomes the director of the CCPD and he creates the AI Gideon and all of this in 10 years time , imagine thinking your life is going nowhere but then you find out nah your life will become infinitely better like I think anyone would be incredibly excited just as Barry was 🤯🙌
The paper does change over the seasons to reflect the type of heroes in action. But the main part stays the same. And as we know gets a massive change and ignores everything they set up because the original showrunner was fired for being a creep and was the only one besides Berlanti who knew the whole direction the show was meant to take.
But real world problems aside, and this isn't a spoiler Thawne literally says it in episode 17. Barry isn't meant to become the flash until 2020. In the original timeline Thawne comes from Barry would have been stuck in a 4 year time loop. Vanishing in Crisis with the fight against Thawne and the shadow demons becoming the lightning to strike himself and start over. Explaining how Thawne is able to have such a long history with Barry despite him only being active from 2020-2024.
Not the “Powered by ChatGPT” 😂😂😂 took me OUT 🤣🤣🤣💀
In the Comics, Thawn was obsessed with the flash, so much so he created a machine to gain speed like him. He then attempted to "save" a group of people by creating his own disasters, only for Flash to save them instead and reveal his plot. Devastated, he then discovered that the identity of the Reverse Flash was himself, thus, he is stuck in a loop, yes.
I know your watching a few things atm but would love to see daily flash seen as it’s a lot of season aswell
Barry, so to speak, is like an arc-reactor for the speed force. He creates it when he runs and its existence is what gives him his speed, as well as thawne his.
When he goes back in time and kills Nora he creates a timeline in which the Flash doesn’t exist. This means Thawne’s speed is gone too. So thawne needs to create the Flash so that the speed force exists and train Barry to get fast enough to get him home.
You can think also of the speedforce as a battery that grows as Barry gets faster. Because Barry is slow right now, he can use the power without issue but because thawne is relatively crazy fast he depletes the reserve he can tap into quickly. Note how in prior episodes where we see him use his speed, it’s unstable. It comes and goes and he has to charge it with his device. That is why.
Plz tell me when are you uploading arrow reaction on UA-cam???.. I've been waiting for a while now 😢
Justice for Eddie. Joe being weird.
I hate when people use the word “timeline” and “cannon” without actually knowing what they’re talking about. Barry traveling to another timeline and doing whatever there is still “cannon” because it’s our Barry it’s not a different Barry it’s not a different story him traveling to another timeline and doing whatever there is a part of our Barry’s story
Season 1 and 2 were great, even for a superhero hater.
Season 3 and 4 are also fine.
But from season 5 to 9 it starts to be all bullshit. Pandering too much towards the comics.