2023 Yamaha MT10sp | 1 Month Review
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
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So I've spent the last 30 days mastering the streets of Atlanta on the 2023 Yamaha MT-10 SP. This Hyper Naked beast, with its roaring 998cc engine and state-of-the-art Öhlins suspension, challenges the norm. At $17,199, it's a leap from the base model. Let's dive in and discover if it justifies the extra cost.
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Chapters:
00:00 - What is a 1-month review?
01:33 - Pros
01:44 - Looks
03:02 - Sound
05:55 - Engine Performance
11:15 - Customizable Settings
14:37 - Rider Aids / 6-axis IMU
16:49 - Cons
17:03 - Stupid Scroll Wheel
18:19 - Narrow Steering Lock
19:53 - Screen could be Better
21:05 - Visual Design
22:10 - Fuel Range
24:17 - Cost Over Base
26:43 - Who is the bike for?
28:06 - Conclusion - Авто та транспорт
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Middle of August??? You shot this 4 months ago? Running a bit behind are we? Lol
You have literally no idea. haha
It’s August in Georgia right now 🤦♂️ noobs 😂
I learned real quick how scary having your foot stuck in something is, thankfully didnt drop my bike but now I make triple sure my shoes are literally impossible to get stuck anywhere 😂
Your reviews are the best!! Thanks Chase.
Really nice job with the video and review commentary!
Just got one of those recently. Bike is a hoot to ride and very comfortable.
That slidecontroll sound like a dream, would love that on my Energica.
Cool video on a great bike! Have the same bike and the paint and belly fairing alone are worth the $3,000 upgrade over terrible base color, the suspension is the best I have tried to date and really smoothes out rough California roads. The milage I am getting now that bike is fully broken in and using Yamalube synthetic oil is around 40 mpg and the change in rear gearing over previous version helps with that. Use your trip meter to monitor fuel gauge. The engine is the star of the show and its my favorite sound and powerband for aggressive street riding thru canyons my only gripe is the inability to lower the handlebars, just an inch wider and lower would be perfect but its so good all around that I dismiss any shortcomings and enjoy the hell out of this bike!
Thank you for this video - So good arguments!
I love the entire MT family. Rode one when I did my msf course and fell in love. I'm hoping this will be the final bike I buy when I finally get comfortable riding.
Hopefully I'll be getting my Mt-03 in a few months so I may see you on the road. It looks like you ride in my area a lot.
I love love love my mt09sp.
Its something special
@@justinoompa3450 I haven't heard a bad thing about any model other than people wishing they were faster but I think it's perfect the way it is. I want to collect all of them lol
@@DoperThanSourDget the mt15 haha hella slow but hella fun revving it out for city rides
About the Scroll wheels, you have to push that wheel on the 45-degree angle, it will be lighter and easier for ya. Nice video btw!
Hi @chaseontwowheels in the video you refer to power mode 1 as full power. You should be aware that only throttle response varies between Power modes 1-3. All are full power. In power mode 1 - 50% throttle is full throttle. Mode 2 75% throttle is full throttle. Mode 3 is 1:1.
Oh, that sound!❤❤❤❤❤
Bro, on my Super Tenere my foot got stuck kinda like that. When I put my left foot down as I normally would while rolling to a stop, my jeans went over the little metal 'guard' above the foot peg. My foot just stopped going down and was about 5 inches from the ground. I managed to lift my leg up fast enough to get unstuck and put my foot down just as the bike started to hit the point of no return. I barely saved it, and didn't go down. The anxiety of just thinking about that again...a chill ran up my spine LMAO.
Same thing happened to me with my first bike (Rebel 300) thankfully it was a cruiser so I had plenty of time to catch it but man what a scary feeling, ever since I always make sure to ride with my laces tucked in the front laces that cross over and my jeans tucked in inside the boot. Im taking no chances 😂
how is the low end torque? . Do you have to raise the rpm for a smooth launch?
I really really wish South Africa had this bike coming to us. Dream bike
I’ll never forget a few years ago my boot laces got stuck on my peg on the way home and I panicked and snapped the lace putting my foot down 😂 didn’t drop the bike (that time!)
jesus, I'm in love with this bike, but I need to win the lottery first before buying
Would love to see a direct comparasion to the MT 09 SP now that we have sp models for both bikes
the 09 is pretty destabilizing in real 😅 it almost look and feel like a 125cc size-wise...
1) Great vid 2) How's the stability in the RAIN? 3) Those teeny LED lights- Do you feel that people can SEE YOU? I want one of these bikes, but live in a fast, mean traffic area.
I got a 2018 SP - I used the FUEL CONSUMED counter on the dash as a back up to the dodgy fuel level.. If I have full gauge and it's used 5-7L, and I see a fuel station, I usually top her off... just to be safe. And yes, scroll wheel is probably the worst thing on the bike, followed by fuel usage in A mode :P
I also prefer the Gen1 Face, BUT Gen 2 is growing on me!
Really wish I had the updated IMU, though I hear tuning the newer version is a little different due to updates ECU system.
Great review. I'm buying my MT10 in a few weeks. Interestingly I went with the non-SP model specifically for track days. I appreciate the SP suspension, but for 3K I can set mine up to my needs perfectly. I'm also not too stoked to have so much stuff ECU dependent, especially since I do my own maintenance and I don't have the software, etc.
Thanks for sharing.. I'm in the market and I'm in the same boat.
Did you get a '22 or a '23?
Getting a 23.@@47-TH4TS-R4VN
How would you compare it to the Pikes Peak?
I love this bike!!!!
Scissors in the emergency kit. Never thought of that until this video.
so, I am a new rider , still in the process of getting my M endorsement. I am thinking of the MT -03,, Do you think this MT-3 is a good and reliable bike?? thanks in advance for the feedback bro
I can only afford the lego mt10.
😂
I have a 2012 predecessor bike FZ1 Yamaha. And yes the range is not good on the bike with the power and torque is amazing I have a clean air box it's been remapped because of accelerator surges and also I have a new pipe and exhaust. Made a huge difference I have about 150 horsepower out of the rear tire. I'm looking to get a r1 front end to put on it for the braking which it lacks a little bit.
Man, the Ohlins electronic suspensions on this bike do worth every penny ! The only things i would have loved are a better screen, and brembo stylema brakes ! I do not understand why they put the stylema on the MT09 SP but NOT on the MT 10 SP ! It doesn't make any sense ! (oh one more thing : I would have loved to have been able to choose the bike color too and not be stuck with only one color for the SP model...)
I have a question, why the bike headlight only one side is turn on, the other side is off. ?? Did you do that on purpose? the strip light both are on , But the round headlight , only one side is on.
Man - it hasn't got less power in different modes, only the throttle reaction id different And the new TFT screen together with the new switches has been transferred to the MT09SP, so there are big chances they will transplant this to the MT10SP (hopefully with the brembo stylema breaks).
I was getting ready to purchase the standard model MT-10 last month. That was until Yamaha unveiled the updated MT-09. Once those new features make their way to this bike, I’m all in.
That'll be in 2025, if the updates follow past model history. I'm buying in a few weeks for thousands off (12K USD). People are sleeping on these, which means great deals can be had. Cheers.
Just trade it in when they update it
Seem great bikes, but really do not understand why they they are still using the odd one headlight and why they didn't make the other lights bright drls as you can barely see them
great bike, debating between this and zh2
Same here bro ! the ZH2 is scaring me a little bit though, even if I'm an experienced rider (I had a ZX12R for years !).
Never had a compressor before and I'm afraid to go upside down with it while doing a wheelie 😅😅 (because of the "turbo effect" due to the compressor).
Kind of a shame they don't give you the lighter magnesium rims off the R1 on the MT10SP anymore... probably a bit of foresight into them axing the R1 that we didn't even notice.
what are these clutch and brake levers?
My '18 mt10 turned into a TOTALLY different machine after ecu was flashed. I know Chase has a badass exhaust system and his ECU flashed on his '19 so he knows what I'm talking about. I did decat/exhaust system but 95% of power increase and things like proper fuel mapping to smooth out "snatchy" are from JUST competent $300 ecu flash😮. Decat and exhaust add a couple more hp but dump about 18lbs in weight, well worth it. I got my bike a couple summers ago with 1k mi on it for $9800, essentially a new bike. I have no idea how you could go this fast and have this much fun with $10k. FANTASTIC!
On the old generation mt-10, you still got full power in mode 2 and mode three it's just that it came on more gradually. You may want to do your research on that one because I don't think they've changed it on the new generation.
Needs to have stock bar end mirrors
You can get 23 sp's for the price of base 24's right now. People slept on the mt10 last year so theyre super cheap right now. At least cheap for top end hyper naked.
You should be practicing turns with the bars at the lock. It shouldn't surprise you if you're trying to make a tight turn and it happens, you should be making it happen by habit.
If you think you're trying to make a tight turn and the bars aren't locked, you're not really trying.
Mean machine✊🔥🔥yoshi or akra 🤙Mt 10sp or speed triple rs?
MT10.
Looks awesome. I love my MT09 SP
I don't think I need anymore power..?
😂
Whats that cool backpack?
OC - I've ridden a buddy's 2022 MT-10 (non-SP) with a flashed ECU which pumps out 165 rwhp. Given that I was on the crappy roads in the East Coast of Canada and the performance of the "regular suspension, I personally could not see a need to have the SP. Once you're over the "slightly" legal speeds, the regular suspension does a great job of keeping the bike planted and tracking where you want without being jittery. So, for my money, I'm keeping the extra money and putting it into better gear. Can't speak to the track component but it logically makes sense the SP suspension would be of value there.
A better take is pay extra for more comfortable suspension on the SP version
i rode my mates 2022 sp to compare with my 2022 mt10 and ill take mine anyday
@@Greddi perhaps so. I couldn't accurately say, but I didn't think it was a necessary upgrade if I was happy with what the stock setup was doing. I suppose ultimately the word "better" is a certainly subjective term whether referring to gear or suspension as it is applied to every day use. 🙂
I went non-SP for that exact reason. Once set the stock suspension is fantastic on public roads, even when pushed. Also, I'm not thrilled about having my suspension tied to my ECU. I do all my own maintenance and I'd like to minimize dealership laptop visits as much as possible.
You guys saying that stock suspensions are "ok enough" are completely wrong and obviously lacking knowledge when it comes to physics.
If you guys don't have the money for it, I do respect that, go for the regular MT 10.
But If you do have the money, the Ohlins suspensions are worth every penny !
Don't forget that motorcycles have 2 wheels only and having great tires and great suspensions makes THE WHOLE DIFFERENCE !
Why do you think that one of the biggest and more expensive upgrade in competition goes to suspensions first !? think about it...😅😅
1: It doesn't have less power in the different modes. Every mode has the same power. The change is in the delivery of the power.
2: Yamaha had the TFT on the first gen but only the SP which the US didn't get in the first gen.
3: it's not really any more "efficient" and surely isn't 20% more efficient. They dropped one tooth on the rear sprocket to bring the revs down and gain like 1-2 mpg. Do the same (or even drop 2 on the rear to match the R1 gearing) to your 2019 and you'll get better MPG and more range. I might drop one on my 19 when it's time.
will 2 less in the rear make it that much better ? I'm due a sprocket upgrade on my 16'
@@P.M_M it'll up the MPG a bit as the revs will be lower through the speed range. It'll help her the front down a little better as well
@@willl84 alright good to know, though it must be because im a fat bastard (120kg) but my front rarely ever raises unless im actively trying to..... or maybe i just dont pin it hard enough 🤷♂ which puzzles me as ive managed a 2.8 0-60 without the front ever leaving the ground. Thanks for the info
@@P.M_M that's strange. One had my front come up in 3rd getting onto the highway. Stock grading gearing still on my 2019 with cat delete and 2WDW flash
@@willl84yeah well for whatever reason i would need to actively be trying to get it up, it won't just loop like a superduke can in 1st-4th gear. I've had mini wheelies, but thats more due to the uneven road surface creating tiny bumps for me to flick off from when accelerating hard
I ride 1gen SP, and its the best!
Dear chase. On the topic of best sounding motorcycles, if you like the mt10, may I introduce you to the GOAT: The Aprilia V4 in the tuono v4 and the rsv4. I'm sure you know what I mean. You know you want it.
Time to sell the v4 pikes peak and get an mt10sp outfitted for touring, give me a better screen and radar cruise.
Bought a stock MT10, I'm not good enough to need the better shocks
Better shocks are not necessarily liked to your riding skills buddy 😅.
If you're a bit taller than the average guy and built like a tank and really heavy like me (former powerlifter for 20 years), you absolutely do need them ! 😅😅
@@escanor9920 Not sure what your height has to do with different suspension, or your weight come to that, if you're heavy you simply need different springs on either the stock or SP
Highway 92?
Nannyville overkill!
Thinking of trading my MT-09 to a MT-10 non-sp. Due to the chance of demoing a mt-10 and it was infinite better for me. a little heavier ofcourse but not too bad.
Got mine, yesterday. Yearend deals in the US are fantastic, at least in California. I'm coming from a KTM 1290 SAR. I was looking at an 09 SP or a base MT10. Both brilliant machines, but the 10 is a legit supernaked that's all-day comfortable.
OC: Definitely looks great. Gotta love that suspension. I imagine like the MT09 SP it's worth upgrading over the base model. Just wish Yamaha would do away with the scroll wheel.
I believe they got rid of the scroll wheel in the 2024 release of MT09SP
@@YantoSP Yeah they made some tasteful upgrades for the 2024 MT09SP. Brembo brakes is one of them.
@kugangles9860 💯 FINALLY!! Especially the SP trim. Base I can see using in-house calipers, buy SP should've ALWAYS had Brembo. Good on Yamaha for 2024 model. But I won't trade mines for it. Lol
I have a 2020 & I think they look better too! "Mad Max meets the Transformers"
is it still better then the mt 09 SP 2024 model?:D
Power & sound yes.
clap clap clap for gorga
Looks like a great bike but there is minimal protection and as an older rider I want wind protection as well that's why I stay away from the naked machines. I really do appreciate your reviews and enjoy the videos.
After market windscreens can be bought but it's a hit or miss if they work well. You just have to look for ones with good reviews.
its not even bad, dont know what people are complaining about
Puig makes great windscreens for this bike.
Ever ride a bike in only fraction of its glory??
😂
IMO I rather have the MT10 over the European liter naked bikes.
hello dear chase
I still can't get over how hard they beat it with the ugly stick. Truely looks revolting.
Id own one if it looked different
I can't take anyone wearing a Ruroc helmet seriously
Honestly in my opinion?…Yamaha should really focus on upgrading the engine, and also the bike as a whole…for me within the price range?…I will go for the ZH2SE, as it comes with brembo stylema, hydraulic clutch system, increased Hp, and other updated modes and gimmicks…I mean come on Yamaha, you can do better
Yea mate , if you don’t dig on the 10 , you don’t dig on bikes
That white jacket 🤢🤢
Cmon .. it’s not less power in the different modes .. get your facts straight
Also not 20% more efficient lol. They dropped one tooth on the rear to bring the MPG up a smidge lol
I think one of the modes (rain) is around 100bhp the rest are full power. I own a 22 mt10 standard.
@@marksimpson5218 the modes do not change or limit the power. Period. All they do is change the rate at which the electronic throttle valve opens in response to actual throttle input from your hand. Mode 1: fastest. 2: medium. 3: slowest. All it does is reduce how fast the throttle on the bike actually opens. It's still full HP
Nope. Not buying it now because of the shoe loop.
2nd comment
First comment wooo hoo
🎉
Zzz feel asleep. You must be riding bikes for at least 10 years.
I hate this bike so much not because it's big, too powerful or anything but because of that ugly headlight. Sure, the headight looks way better than it's previous gens but it's still ugly 😑 fr everthing about that bike looks so damn good expect it's headlight 😑 which then again kills everthing 😑 Starting to make a conclusion that Yamaha designers just can't can't come up with a nice looking headlight for their Mt series 😕
It so ugly. At least the old model was not THAT ugly, that front light I could not even forget about while riding the bike, I do not get how you they could even come up with something that foul.
The nose on this bike is 100% UGLY, and that single headlight is a deal-breaker for me. Hopefully Yamaha improves this for 2025, as I will have money to buy then. Also, give us a "GT" version.
I really do not like at all the sound of this bike, I just love the sound of normal and tradicional 4 inline, smooth music sound, even better 6 inlines like the good old Honda cbx1000 or Kaeasaki kz1300, now days bikes are just sooo horrible, they are not bikes, they look like 3 years old transformers toys....every year almost all companies are trying to make moyorcycles more and more ridiculous and stupid......We are no riding motorcycles anymore but stupid computers and tables, enough is enough...no more mens bikes anymore or naked muscle bikes....they even want electric bikes, wtf is that....please stop all that bs......