I like the honesty of his teachings. He didn't pretend that breaking a rear naked choke was easy like a lot of defense videos I watch. Because it really isn't.
it's kind of like when you lift weight, the only Deadlift is the one you have already done….escaping chokes is like that. it is only really easy after you have done it heh
Sir question please! What if they break your posture and have the rear naked choke on you is there a way to defend against it please? Thank you for the helpful video!
First, only get in fights near top tier hospitals. Second, when all else fails, I might try to turn off one way or the other hoping to change that backbend into a side bend. Last ditch, I might try running backwards to slaw into a wall. If you fall, you fall. If it doesn't work, the good news is you won't suffer for very long! :)
North American UA-camr Please don't do that! A RNC put you into sleep in less than 5 seconds and if you try that shit the attacker won't let you go and you WILL sleep for sure. This is the right approach, and these gentleman knows exactly what they are talking about.
Lani F. Seek legal help - Call the police - if you can physically do it, leave, if he is trying to kill you and treats you like that. But that person is dangerous and even if you leave it should be reported at least so he doesn’t harm others too.
Stephan Kesting is a true genius.....I learned sinawali basic flow drills after watching his video. I didn't know that he also knows Jiu Jitsu.......huge respect to you sir......
Thanks for keeping the bullshit levels down and giving us realistic and well thought ways of dealing with this sort of situations. Thanks again and keep the good work up!
In my old judo days one tip was to turn your head toward your opponents hand ( away from the elbow ) ; ideally , you would still have blood flow to the brain through the artery under the least compression & not pass out . Of course , this isn't 100 % , especially during a really hard struggle but you never know how a little thing like that might make a big difference . Great tips , thanks guys !
It depends upon what technique you are actually going to do in order to attempt to get out of the Rear Naked Choke (assuming it has been fully applied in earnest), as to whether you turn your head/chin towards guy's hand or towards the bend in this elbow. Trying to grab his right forearm with one or both your hands (i.e. finger tips) often has a low chance of doing anything (finger tips vs a muscular forearm/arm lock in a "Figure 4 Lock"). Your entire body has to move all at once, together. Put your right palm at his right elbow/tricep and PUSH his forearm over and up to the the left as much as you can, turn your head/chin to your left as you are turning your hips counterclockwise and stepping back and thru w your left foot/leg. Take your left hand as a flat open, fingers tight together knifehand and slide it up along side the left side of your neck. Palm towards your neck. In between your neck and his right wrist/forearm. No matter how difficult it is to do or how painful it is to your neck to do it. DO IT!! Then using the blade of your left hand, you can begin to turn your left hand so blade than palm is pressing on the inside of his right wrist/forearm, and pushing it away from your neck. Ducking your head down as you are turning counter clock wise. Use the power of a long step back w your left leg, turn of hips and torso, ducking down of head and shoulders, pushing on his right elbow/tricep w your right palm, and pushing away from your neck of his wrist/forearm w your left hand, to forcibly free your neck/head from his clutches. If you turn your head the other way, into his right bent elbow, then there's a whole other technique to do. It's not that complicated. You MUST turn your hips and upper body. This is the ONLY way to get into a more favorable position. IF... you do not break free of his choke, and then he has you in a Side Headlock Choke, then there are other things you can now do. But now you are in a better position than you were in a Rear Naked Choke. If it is put on fully and correctly, you have SECONDS to do SOMETHING!! If you don't, then lights out!! If you are in a real life situation with a person who is trying to kill you, then you are DEAD!! You MUST turn, TWIST out of it, no matter how painful or risky. Once you are side ways to him, you can establish a strong stance, then defend against a Side Headlock. There are many techniques against a Side Headlock. Further IF you have him in or about to get him into a finger lock, wrist lock, arm lock or any kind ... then do it!! Take what is presented to you and go with it. Lock him out, knock him out, 2 finger poke to the eyes, instep to the groin. Walk home.
@@psyience3213 Huh? Not sure what you are referencing. It appears what I wrote got cut off. I can't read it all, so I forget what I wrote. I forget what the video was about. I forget what the OP wrote, as I didn't read it again now. So ..... you got me ????? But what I can read, or what I wrote, I can say that it makes a BIG difference as to whether or not the attacker puts on a Rear Naked Choke CORRECTLY and POWERFULLY, or he does not!! Not many people really know how to put it on correctly, eventhough they think they do. Not to mention how quickly, efficiently, and effectively they can put it on. Many people bungle their attempt. All you need, to defend yourself, is a fraction of an inch and a fraction of a second. If the attacker gives you those, by his lack of skill in putting on choke, then you have a number of different options for an escape. Depending on a number of other factors as well, of course. Your size to his, your stance and body position, his stance and body position, environment, standing, sitting, or laying on ground, etc, etc, etc. Very few people have the training, skill, and experience to put on a Rear Naked Choke fully and strongly in a flash. That is one thing I'm saying. I've had many people put chokes on me and I'm waiting ...... waiting .... waiting .... for "something" to happen. Their muscling it, struggling, twisting around, etc, and nothing. Cuz they don't understand the principles of the choke nor the anatomy of the human body. It really isn't that easy to put on, that quickly, without the person realizing it is coming and he quickly moving, twisting, or something to prevent attacker from putting it on. There are little things you can do to person BEFORE you attempt to put on the choke, which will aid you in putting it on and limiting his ability to react and defend.
I was taught this by my Tae Kwon Do instructor almost 40 years ago. It was taught to NYC cops in the eighties during the PCP epidemic. PCP is basically a horse tranquilizer that people used recreationally. It gives them strength and resistance to pain that they normally wouldn’t have. It’s also one of the reasons NYC cops went to forty caliber ammo from nine millimeter. More knock back power against someone on PCP who might absorb several smaller rounds and keep coming. The technique was called a carotid restraint. Unfortunately the way it was taught to the cops was bad. Put it on, lift the suspect off his feet, and release when he stops kicking. What would happen was airway restriction, panic, and death or brain damage. Excellent advice here.
Also, what has come in handy for me, being that I was the victim of few choke holds, is when you can lean forward as to at least somewhat, get the perps feet having less footing, is now, you have more footing. So bulldoze him backwards at that point while he's holding you. You can start to build a momentum and then ram his back into the next nearest hard thing that you can, or to at least make them trip backwards, giving you some opportunity to defend yourself now. I've ram a few dudes bigger than me backwards into a work bench vice at work. I knew what was behind him already, so when he put me in a hold, I focused on getting him into a position to bulldoze him backwards in the vice.
I first started martial arts training when I was 4 years-old...the earliest memory I have of something I was taught was me in the dojo, and our since _Paul_ taught me by having another student twice my age & more than twice my size to put me in a rear naked choke & he said “now push up with your feet like your jumping as high as you can, then tuck your legs at the knee, with both hands on Justin’s forearm and when your knees hit the mat again pull as hard as you can downward and flip him over your shoulder...”
@@AndoMierzwa or if you're in a domestic violence situation. They make sure you're naked or in indeed when they begin to the attacks because you can/won't escape outside. They corner you in the hallway or on the couch.
I tried a similar technique against a 240lb MMA fighter and the first part of pulling own their arms using your body had no effect. He still had choke all the way in. I am pressure testing all known techniques against an MMA fighter with maximum resistance and will publish the results on you tube so we can see with no uncertainly what works and what doesn't.
Something that seems to be overlooked in these 'choke-hold' videos, is the mention of OBSERVING your surroundings, first and foremost at ALL times. Secondly, we should develop our reflexes to the point where, an antagonist doesn't even have the CHANCE of SECURING his arm around your neck. Number one---I NEVER allow myself to be THAT close to 'harm.' It may sound almost fanatic, but even when I go to the grocery store, or, gas station, if some dude is walking somewhat toward me, I make sure to give myself a wider 'berth' between him and me without making it look too obvious. It's a strange world out there these days; ya' can't be TOO careful... Know what I mean? But these techniques ARE good to know. Thanx!
Hey that was great ! Could you also do one on the floor? Please! I was rear chocked on the floor number of times in my childhood MMA fighting plays with my shorter but strong neighbor and that was his favourite technique to end the fight as I couldn't figure out how to escape from it being on the floor on my back and with him behind. He has mastered that on me sadly and I never found the way to defend from it.
Wicked video cool to see you guys working together :) I find the Bjj headlock defence is good to throw into your RNC defence because i find with my friends if they get my back. When I spin out of the RNC the end up locking me up in a headlock (which is a bad position for them because I know how to get out) but someone who doesn't know can get stuck and panic and take a lot of damage from a headlock from punches and even a choke if they turn there head away in a headlock!!! Again great vid! Cool to see ya both working together :) Stephens videos taught me a lot of Bjj tips :)
I think it's cool seeing us together, too! :) For sure, the risks are high if someone gets this position, whether they know what they're doing or not! Stay safe!
Once again great video guys. With such a short time window to react. Those are some great options! Quick question. I've seen non-experienced fighters drop on to their backs hoping to knock the wind out of their attacker. Will the finger wedge still work? Ideally no one should be on the ground with that technique or in it. thx Sensei
Right! The best defense is to avoid the hold. Falling back on the attacker MIGHT work... it all depends on his experience. And if he falls on to a bed of nails. Either way, I would try for the fingers standing on the ground... it's worth a shot!
That was great. Have been a fan and subscriber to both of you for a while and SK does some brilliant content - like so do you, Sensei Ando, sir. Respect to both of you. Thanks. :)
Great advice. Great to hear Stephan give credit to fellow Catch wrestler Eric on the finger lace. There is a reason it is called the sleeper hold in Catch or even better the mata leão in BJJ. If it is fully set you will be lucky if you get out. You have a maximum of 8-10 seconds. I have a thick neck so I have less.
Quick comment - great video. There is also one more technique that can help if you just manage to do it in time - right before the choking arm is around your neck. Grab the wrist with your opposite hand (in this case with the left one) and proceed to Seoi Nage. But as I said, it would only work with just the right timing and the window of opportunity is really small there. Anyway, thanks for the great video.
Nice Sensei. I had see that at facebook. Nice tips and nice video. Always showing a good tip for fight easy and safe. Thank you again. Health and peace for you and Mr. Kesting
So what if the person is way taller and is lifting you off the ground as your own body weight weighs against you ontop of the tightening around your throat?
Reminds of a guy I know who’s really really strong and really into the ufc. I had just learned the correct way to apply the rear naked and he told me that he could get out of it. I said not if it’s fully in. No way. He assured me he would definitely break out of it even if I had it fully locked in? So, what was I to do? I had to see this! I tried one last time to convince him of the folly of his belief but he was insistent that I apply the choke fully and he would dazzle all with his incredible escape artist abilities! I suppose it really was one of those, had to be there, situations but, I got behind him, got in position, wrapped my first arm deep around his neck, set the second arm in tight behind his head, dropped my head down and squeezed! Well if you’ve ever done or been on the receiving end of a good rear naked you know that one of two things happened next. He either tapped or went to sleep. He tapped! And he tapped quickly! Took about two seconds! He was coughing and eyes watering already. Wow! He said through his coughs, I guess I can’t get out of it? No Kidding Sherlock. Once a correctly applied rear naked is in, you’re going to sleep 😴
This works on a one-on-one situation. But against multiple attackers, forget it. Bite, stab his hands, his legs...but if you focus on one attacker the others will punch you or kick you. Mobility and speed are critical in a street attack of multiple attackers. Best WIshes to Spephen Kesting and Ando Mierzwa :)
I showed your video during training. 20 people gathering around one phone. Our sensei wanted to test it immediately. We tried this defense and we all experienced, that it is best to get a single finger for a lock joint to weaken the choke lock (if possible). Against strong attackers it was nearly impossible. But often enough it worked. We added this to our training routine. Thanks for the idea!
These are some great tips! Thank you! One question though: you guys were going very easy at it, what if the attacker is fighting your attemps to grab fingers, especially the sliding of his arm under your armpit (he could just pull his hand back or over power you)? Also here's another tip for realistic self-defense situation: if the attacker is not wearing a jacket or thick, long sleeves try to bite him hard on his arm as well and maybe use it in a combo with the tips in this video, deppending on your circumstances.
You should address "Pressure points," and the use of fingers to assist in disabling an opponent. Strong hands are a MUST in these Close Encounters. Can we have a few videos on this sub- ject?
I love this video, and I love this technique. One of the best to use on bad guys. It presented perfectly, by you two great people and martial artists. I will add however, that in the stage of the during, you might be able to use a sweep, or a sweep and throw combo, but that's only in the during stage. If the choke is all the way in, you want to buy yourself as much time possible, and to do your best to get out. That's reminds me of Hollywood bullshit, in The Karate Kid (the first): John Kreese, Choked Johnny Lawrence, for over 4 minutes I think. And he was red in the face, but didn't past out, story telling purpose, freed by Mr. Miyagi, and was totally fine. In real life, he would have passed out long ago, as evidence in this video, Stephen held 4 seconds being choked.
Gravity also helps, very few people can hold on to an average male or female. Jump, be prepared however they may release you right away, or you tumble back with them. So reorient yourself .
This is a solid discussion, but almost all BJJ folks still have a sport mentality even when they discuss practical self-defense. First of all, I consider ANY attack targeting the neck as a lethal attack. Losing consciousness on "the street" is GAME OVER. So the attacker just escalated the force spectrum to MAX by attempting it. The RIGHT way to defend any technique is to interrupt it as soon after it begins as possible. There are WAY more good options BEFORE the guy buries a knife in your chest than after! Same with any grappling technique in a NON-sporting context. And remember: chokes are LETHAL ATTACKS. So I totally agree with Mr. Kesting that we want to defeat the RNC before it is set if at all possible. However, there are a host of things I can do in the 10 seconds or more I have if I do not panic and set my chin and neck properly to protect my airway (temporarily...I also agree with that statement) so long as I did not allow my balance to be broken. Also, this is easier if you're taller than the attacker. If you're shorter, that is a big disadvantage once the choke is applied. In short, if I still have my balance and my chin and neck muscles are set, I have a bunch of front-to-back lethal (level of force) tools left in my tool belt. So don't panic! And...as Sensei Ando said...don't give up!
I totally agree… if anything comes near your neck, EXPLODE and clear the danger. And yes, the earlier you start defending, the better! Thanks for the comments, sir!
Well Yeah!!! A Rear Naked Choke, in real life, is usually used by bigger, taller, and stronger men on shorter men or women, NOT the other way around. Usually if a shorter person wants to do it, they have to jump on the other person's back, and wrap their legs around their middle and lock their feet at the front. Then apply the choke. Then fall down with the person when he goes down.
I've only escaped a rn a handful of times and it's basically while it's IN motion and not locked. That's in bjj class, usually if they get it locked down I've only got the hand once because they will bury it making it hard. On the street, different story sloppy placement allows for it way more easily.
slamming the rear naked choker violently backwards smashing them into a wall etc is effective as well. also at the very end with one arm around your neck those fingers are still available to set up a throw.
He did say if they get you in the hold you'll "go to sleep." It should be made clear you'll be unconscious not sleeping. "Sleeping" sounds nice, unconscious means as the follow up blows land you could die from them. Not wake up.
If someone jumps on your back and chokes you from behind (backpack position), is it a good idea to fall on your back onto him possibly hitting his head on the ground? Or is it better to bend over and try to unload him infront of you?
I like the honesty of his teachings. He didn't pretend that breaking a rear naked choke was easy like a lot of defense videos I watch. Because it really isn't.
Amen. No magic here!
Vesuvius I
it's kind of like when you lift weight, the only Deadlift is the one you have already done….escaping chokes is like that. it is only really easy after you have done it heh
Turn your head towards the choker's head and pull the choker's head down towards your chest.
It works pretty much everytime to get out of the hold.
@@mindfulmind3644 Sounds good. Have a link?
It was great to see you Ando. And also thanks for the opportunity to appear on your channel
You are welcome here anytime, sir! Thank you!
Sir question please! What if they break your posture and have the rear naked choke on you is there a way to defend against it please? Thank you for the helpful video!
First, only get in fights near top tier hospitals. Second, when all else fails, I might try to turn off one way or the other hoping to change that backbend into a side bend. Last ditch, I might try running backwards to slaw into a wall. If you fall, you fall. If it doesn't work, the good news is you won't suffer for very long! :)
Thank you sir lol
That was great guys. Thank you both for sharing.
The rear naked choke is gotta be one of the worst things someone can do to you thanks for the tips.
+Victor cabral That choke is definitely serious business… don't let it happen to you!
North American UA-camr Nah man, thats just pure evil! I'd rather die than to bust another fellow mans nuts
North American UA-camr Please don't do that! A RNC put you into sleep in less than 5 seconds and if you try that shit the attacker won't let you go and you WILL sleep for sure. This is the right approach, and these gentleman knows exactly what they are talking about.
when anyone with any skill is using a RNC they are pressing their hips into your back it will be very difficul tto get to their groin effectively
Lani F. Seek legal help - Call the police - if you can physically do it, leave, if he is trying to kill you and treats you like that. But that person is dangerous and even if you leave it should be reported at least so he doesn’t harm others too.
Stephan Kesting is a true genius.....I learned sinawali basic flow drills after watching his video. I didn't know that he also knows Jiu Jitsu.......huge respect to you sir......
He has traveled far and wide!
Thanks for keeping the bullshit levels down and giving us realistic and well thought ways of dealing with this sort of situations. Thanks again and keep the good work up!
Stephan definitely knows what he's doing!
Agreed. Subscribed
Ando is such a great teacher and motivator. We appreciate you!
+Faron McLurkin Comments like yours mean a lot to me. Thank you!
Agreed
The beauty is in the simplicity of the way you guys demonstrate this. Thanks Stephan and Ando!
I appreciate that. Thank you! 🙏🏻
Yes , Stephan was one of the earliest practitioners that really spread jiujitsu and always professional and shows deep respect for the art,.
Absolutely right!
The guest instructor is an excellent teacher and his knowledge is vast.
True!
In my old judo days one tip was to turn your head toward your opponents hand ( away from the elbow ) ; ideally , you would still have blood flow to the brain through the artery under the least compression & not pass out . Of course , this isn't 100 % , especially during a really hard struggle but you never know how a little thing like that might make a big difference . Great tips , thanks guys !
I love that tip. I usually try to escape towards the hand, too. Thanks for sharing, Robin!
that is so strange I almost always turn towards the elbow
It depends upon what technique you are actually going to do in order to attempt to get out of the Rear Naked Choke (assuming it has been fully applied in earnest), as to whether you turn your head/chin towards guy's hand or towards the bend in this elbow. Trying to grab his right forearm with one or both your hands (i.e. finger tips) often has a low chance of doing anything (finger tips vs a muscular forearm/arm lock in a "Figure 4 Lock"). Your entire body has to move all at once, together. Put your right palm at his right elbow/tricep and PUSH his forearm over and up to the the left as much as you can, turn your head/chin to your left as you are turning your hips counterclockwise and stepping back and thru w your left foot/leg. Take your left hand as a flat open, fingers tight together knifehand and slide it up along side the left side of your neck. Palm towards your neck. In between your neck and his right wrist/forearm. No matter how difficult it is to do or how painful it is to your neck to do it. DO IT!! Then using the blade of your left hand, you can begin to turn your left hand so blade than palm is pressing on the inside of his right wrist/forearm, and pushing it away from your neck. Ducking your head down as you are turning counter clock wise. Use the power of a long step back w your left leg, turn of hips and torso, ducking down of head and shoulders, pushing on his right elbow/tricep w your right palm, and pushing away from your neck of his wrist/forearm w your left hand, to forcibly free your neck/head from his clutches. If you turn your head the other way, into his right bent elbow, then there's a whole other technique to do. It's not that complicated. You MUST turn your hips and upper body. This is the ONLY way to get into a more favorable position. IF... you do not break free of his choke, and then he has you in a Side Headlock Choke, then there are other things you can now do. But now you are in a better position than you were in a Rear Naked Choke. If it is put on fully and correctly, you have SECONDS to do SOMETHING!! If you don't, then lights out!! If you are in a real life situation with a person who is trying to kill you, then you are DEAD!! You MUST turn, TWIST out of it, no matter how painful or risky. Once you are side ways to him, you can establish a strong stance, then defend against a Side Headlock. There are many techniques against a Side Headlock. Further IF you have him in or about to get him into a finger lock, wrist lock, arm lock or any kind ... then do it!! Take what is presented to you and go with it. Lock him out, knock him out, 2 finger poke to the eyes, instep to the groin. Walk home.
@@aspenrebel
"Your entire body has to move all at once, together. Put your right palm at his right elbow/tric..."
and you're asleep
@@psyience3213 Huh? Not sure what you are referencing. It appears what I wrote got cut off. I can't read it all, so I forget what I wrote. I forget what the video was about. I forget what the OP wrote, as I didn't read it again now. So ..... you got me ????? But what I can read, or what I wrote, I can say that it makes a BIG difference as to whether or not the attacker puts on a Rear Naked Choke CORRECTLY and POWERFULLY, or he does not!! Not many people really know how to put it on correctly, eventhough they think they do. Not to mention how quickly, efficiently, and effectively they can put it on. Many people bungle their attempt. All you need, to defend yourself, is a fraction of an inch and a fraction of a second. If the attacker gives you those, by his lack of skill in putting on choke, then you have a number of different options for an escape. Depending on a number of other factors as well, of course. Your size to his, your stance and body position, his stance and body position, environment, standing, sitting, or laying on ground, etc, etc, etc. Very few people have the training, skill, and experience to put on a Rear Naked Choke fully and strongly in a flash. That is one thing I'm saying. I've had many people put chokes on me and I'm waiting ...... waiting .... waiting .... for "something" to happen. Their muscling it, struggling, twisting around, etc, and nothing. Cuz they don't understand the principles of the choke nor the anatomy of the human body. It really isn't that easy to put on, that quickly, without the person realizing it is coming and he quickly moving, twisting, or something to prevent attacker from putting it on. There are little things you can do to person BEFORE you attempt to put on the choke, which will aid you in putting it on and limiting his ability to react and defend.
I was taught this by my Tae Kwon Do instructor almost 40 years ago. It was taught to NYC cops in the eighties during the PCP epidemic. PCP is basically a horse tranquilizer that people used recreationally. It gives them strength and resistance to pain that they normally wouldn’t have. It’s also one of the reasons NYC cops went to forty caliber ammo from nine millimeter. More knock back power against someone on PCP who might absorb several smaller rounds and keep coming. The technique was called a carotid restraint. Unfortunately the way it was taught to the cops was bad. Put it on, lift the suspect off his feet, and release when he stops kicking. What would happen was airway restriction, panic, and death or brain damage. Excellent advice here.
Thank you for the comment! The danger of pressing the trachea instead of the carotids under stress is very real.
Blast from the past!😄 Awesome to see you two collaborate, this was really enjoyable. Thank you both very kindly!🙏
I just subscribed . Already learned a lot from this video. Thanks guys.
Welcome! Glad you’re here.👍🏼
Also, what has come in handy for me, being that I was the victim of few choke holds, is when you can lean forward as to at least somewhat, get the perps feet having less footing, is now, you have more footing. So bulldoze him backwards at that point while he's holding you. You can start to build a momentum and then ram his back into the next nearest hard thing that you can, or to at least make them trip backwards, giving you some opportunity to defend yourself now. I've ram a few dudes bigger than me backwards into a work bench vice at work. I knew what was behind him already, so when he put me in a hold, I focused on getting him into a position to bulldoze him backwards in the vice.
Thank you for the comment! 👍🏼
Best solution ive seen so far
Thank you for the kind words! 🙏🏻
Awesome! 2 of the best martial arts instructors from UA-cam in one video!
Thank you!
Kind of you to say, sir!
HuujVincent van der Veen
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I first started martial arts training when I was 4 years-old...the earliest memory I have of something I was taught was me in the dojo, and our since _Paul_ taught me by having another student twice my age & more than twice my size to put me in a rear naked choke & he said “now push up with your feet like your jumping as high as you can, then tuck your legs at the knee, with both hands on Justin’s forearm and when your knees hit the mat again pull as hard as you can downward and flip him over your shoulder...”
That’s an all-in move for sure! Thank you for the comment! 😁
Great collaboration. I am subscribed to both of you :)
+Zen Dragon Awesome! Thank you for watching, sir!
Wait! He's not naked! It's just a rear choke! ; ) But seriously, great video, great tips. Thanks.
Ha! Naked would be prison style. :)
@@AndoMierzwa or if you're in a domestic violence situation. They make sure you're naked or in indeed when they begin to the attacks because you can/won't escape outside. They corner you in the hallway or on the couch.
It's not even a "choke", it's a strangle. 😊
I tried a similar technique against a 240lb MMA fighter and the first part of pulling own their arms using your body had no effect. He still had choke all the way in. I am pressure testing all known techniques against an MMA fighter with maximum resistance and will publish the results on you tube so we can see with no uncertainly what works and what doesn't.
The only thing better than experimenting is sharing your results! Thank you, sir!
Would gladly take a look at those tests, too. Where are they?
so how'd you get out of that choke?
Never knew about the finger tip, thank you.
It's worth a try, right?
Something that seems to be overlooked in these 'choke-hold' videos,
is the mention of OBSERVING your surroundings, first and foremost
at ALL times. Secondly, we should develop our reflexes to the point
where, an antagonist doesn't even have the CHANCE of SECURING
his arm around your neck. Number one---I NEVER allow myself to
be THAT close to 'harm.' It may sound almost fanatic, but even when
I go to the grocery store, or, gas station, if some dude is walking
somewhat toward me, I make sure to give myself a wider 'berth'
between him and me without making it look too obvious.
It's a strange world out there these days; ya' can't be TOO careful...
Know what I mean?
But these techniques ARE good to know.
Thanx!
Great video, very easy, always a pleasure to see 2 masters working together, i follow you both on UA-cam, greetings from Chile
You are very kind, sir! Happy training!
Hey that was great ! Could you also do one on the floor? Please! I was rear chocked on the floor number of times in my childhood MMA fighting plays with my shorter but strong neighbor and that was his favourite technique to end the fight as I couldn't figure out how to escape from it being on the floor on my back and with him behind. He has mastered that on me sadly and I never found the way to defend from it.
It happens to all of us, Artur! :) I would go over to Stephan's channel and do a quick search. He's got all kinds of good info over there.
Finally useful info, covering some missing pieces. The hand and finger grab was best, thanks!
Thank you for the kind words! 🙏🏻
Very good tips, i would only add small thing to "during" defence - when you see that arm raise your shoulder and then what he said chin down etc.
Good tip! Thank you!
Love the mutual respect!
Always! Or at least be good at faking it! 😄
Well done. Easy to understand. I wil do much pratick to improve my skill in this way.
Excellent!
Thanks! We never practiced rear choke in my Karate class. This is a good tip!
i think everybody should practice this one! :)
Wicked video cool to see you guys working together :)
I find the Bjj headlock defence is good to throw into your RNC defence because i find with my friends if they get my back. When I spin out of the RNC the end up locking me up in a headlock (which is a bad position for them because I know how to get out) but someone who doesn't know can get stuck and panic and take a lot of damage from a headlock from punches and even a choke if they turn there head away in a headlock!!!
Again great vid! Cool to see ya both working together :) Stephens videos taught me a lot of Bjj tips :)
I think it's cool seeing us together, too! :) For sure, the risks are high if someone gets this position, whether they know what they're doing or not! Stay safe!
im gonna practice this thanks
Happy training!👍🏼
Once again great video guys. With such a short time window to react. Those are some great options! Quick question. I've seen non-experienced fighters drop on to their backs hoping to knock the wind out of their attacker. Will the finger wedge still work? Ideally no one should be on the ground with that technique or in it. thx Sensei
Right! The best defense is to avoid the hold. Falling back on the attacker MIGHT work... it all depends on his experience. And if he falls on to a bed of nails. Either way, I would try for the fingers standing on the ground... it's worth a shot!
Very good and honest video from two no-BS instructors ! Thank you very much, gentlemen !
Awesome. Thanks for saying that!
No, thank YOU Sir for the regular awesome material you share with us !
That was great. Have been a fan and subscriber to both of you for a while and SK does some brilliant content - like so do you, Sensei Ando, sir. Respect to both of you. Thanks. :)
Thank you sir!
Great advice. Great to hear Stephan give credit to fellow Catch wrestler Eric on the finger lace. There is a reason it is called the sleeper hold in Catch or even better the mata leão in BJJ. If it is fully set you will be lucky if you get out. You have a maximum of 8-10 seconds. I have a thick neck so I have less.
+Gene Williams Yes, sir! That choke is about as trustworthy as it gets. Thank you for commenting!
Great lesson indeed. Thanks.
Thank you for watching!
Nice video
Much appreciated!
thanks for the tips and video
Thank you for the comment!
Two great martial artist, honest and humble . Good work and nice shirt.
Thank you very much, Pierre!
Thank you for your valuable time and teaching information 😊
Thank you for taking the time to comment! 🙏🏻
Thank you. I like your videos with or without guests.
I appreciate that. Thank you! 🙏🏻
Quick comment - great video. There is also one more technique that can help if you just manage to do it in time - right before the choking arm is around your neck. Grab the wrist with your opposite hand (in this case with the left one) and proceed to Seoi Nage. But as I said, it would only work with just the right timing and the window of opportunity is really small there. Anyway, thanks for the great video.
+Piotr Litwic Definitely! If you can pin that arm to your body you can exert a lot of control. Thank you!
Nice Sensei. I had see that at facebook. Nice tips and nice video. Always showing a good tip for fight easy and safe. Thank you again. Health and peace for you and Mr. Kesting
+Altair Nilo Barros da Silva Thanks very much for watching and commenting, my friend! :)
So what if the person is way taller and is lifting you off the ground as your own body weight weighs against you ontop of the tightening around your throat?
i also like bas ruttens version of escape "during"/"after"
Yes!
Good deal. Preciate you man.
Appreciate you, too!
3:50 some finger tips
I love that you explain all lines of defences.
Glad you liked it! 🙏🏻
Great video, thanks.
Thank you for always dropping such valuable content ♥️
My pleasure! Thank you for the comment! 🙏🏻
Reminds of a guy I know who’s really really strong and really into the ufc. I had just learned the correct way to apply the rear naked and he told me that he could get out of it. I said not if it’s fully in. No way. He assured me he would definitely break out of it even if I had it fully locked in? So, what was I to do? I had to see this! I tried one last time to convince him of the folly of his belief but he was insistent that I apply the choke fully and he would dazzle all with his incredible escape artist abilities! I suppose it really was one of those, had to be there, situations but, I got behind him, got in position, wrapped my first arm deep around his neck, set the second arm in tight behind his head, dropped my head down and squeezed! Well if you’ve ever done or been on the receiving end of a good rear naked you know that one of two things happened next. He either tapped or went to sleep. He tapped! And he tapped quickly! Took about two seconds! He was coughing and eyes watering already. Wow! He said through his coughs, I guess I can’t get out of it? No Kidding Sherlock. Once a correctly applied rear naked is in, you’re going to sleep 😴
Gasping is believing!
Thank you for posting this. I used to take Krav Maga I'm thinking of getting back in but I'm feeling old. Is late 40's too late to get back in?
Never too late! 👍🏼
Thank you very much !
@@AndoMierzwa Thank you very much !!
@@TheUSA0816 "Feeling old...late 40's..."
How dare you sir!😃
This works on a one-on-one situation. But against multiple attackers, forget it. Bite, stab his hands, his legs...but if you focus on one attacker the others will punch you or kick you. Mobility and speed are critical in a street attack of multiple attackers. Best WIshes to Spephen Kesting and Ando Mierzwa :)
For the reality check, sir. Absolutely… multiple attackers puts every style to the test! :-)
Sensi, thank you, excellent video. I learned several things I didn't know.
Great! Thanks for watching!
Good job explaining! 👍 if using a throw, you may need to loosen by a quick back fist to the groin … if there is time for that
Thanks for contributing! 👍🏼
Really honest and practical tutorial with all the required details
Thank you very much, sir!🙏🏻
Stephan is a very cool dude, and his vids are very informative.
Agreed!
Great video. Great collaboration.
Awesome. Thanks for saying so!
more collabs!
you make so many great video ando thank you so much
My pleasure, Steven! Thanks! 🙏🏻
Both of You rock again Sir
Thank you for the good vibes, sir!
Great to see you two working together, both of you have some great tutorials. Thank you for the video!
+Lessytube Your support is much appreciated! Thank you!
Thank goodness! Now I don't need to strangle the other guy and hope he faints before me..... Nice one from Senseis Ando and Kesting....
Thanks for the comment!
Great video and teaching.
Thank you very much!
I´m going to try this defense in my group next week! Thanks for the input!
Awesome! Take it slow and work it!
I showed your video during training. 20 people gathering around one phone. Our sensei wanted to test it immediately. We tried this defense and we all experienced, that it is best to get a single finger for a lock joint to weaken the choke lock (if possible). Against strong attackers it was nearly impossible. But often enough it worked. We added this to our training routine. Thanks for the idea!
Great video, guys.
Thank you!
Great lesson. What about gouging you keys in elbow or their skull?? What about breaking their foot?? Thanks.
I think you know the answer to that!
These are some great tips! Thank you!
One question though: you guys were going very easy at it, what if the attacker is fighting your attemps to grab fingers, especially the sliding of his arm under your armpit (he could just pull his hand back or over power you)?
Also here's another tip for realistic self-defense situation: if the attacker is not wearing a jacket or thick, long sleeves try to bite him hard on his arm as well and maybe use it in a combo with the tips in this video, deppending on your circumstances.
Yes, indeed... a bite can start the defense process. Just keep going! Thanks!
Really interesting and good tips ...👍🏻👌🏻😎
Thank you very much!
How long it takes to revive??? They revive or we must revive them?? After how much time they will die if didn't revive??
This video is about escaping, not applying a choke. 🙏🏻
great video. watching you from turkey. can u put on ground rear naked choked defence video ?
Good idea!
You should address "Pressure points," and the use of fingers to
assist in disabling an opponent. Strong hands are a MUST in
these Close Encounters. Can we have a few videos on this sub-
ject?
Any point is a pressure point if you squeeze it hard enough. 😁
@@AndoMierzwa True---but some are more sensitive than others.
I enjoy your videos, though, good brother.
Very Good demonstration. But what if when trying to grab his fingers, his hand is in a very tight closed first?
Gotta go to plan B! 😄
that was rly informational, liked!
Awesome! Thanks!
Great content and great teachers. Thanks for sharing
Much appreciated, sir!
This is a great video.
I appreciate that. Thank you! 🙏🏻
I was expecting this video to be bullshit as most choke escape videos are, but this guy definitely knew what he was talking about
Glad to hear that. Thank you!
I love this video, and I love this technique. One of the best to use on bad guys. It presented perfectly, by you two great people and martial artists. I will add however, that in the stage of the during, you might be able to use a sweep, or a sweep and throw combo, but that's only in the during stage. If the choke is all the way in, you want to buy yourself as much time possible, and to do your best to get out. That's reminds me of Hollywood bullshit, in The Karate Kid (the first): John Kreese, Choked Johnny Lawrence, for over 4 minutes I think. And he was red in the face, but didn't past out, story telling purpose, freed by Mr. Miyagi, and was totally fine. In real life, he would have passed out long ago, as evidence in this video, Stephen held 4 seconds being choked.
Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about.
Stephan knows his stuff!
If you have the strength, would breaking or dislocating the hands would be a great way to escape the rear naked choke?
Worth a try!
Gravity also helps, very few people can hold on to an average male or female. Jump, be prepared however they may release you right away, or you tumble back with them.
So reorient yourself .
Thanks for the tip!
This is the most dangerous move.Thanks for the tip.
Thank you for watching!
I have this friend who dose it to all of us and he’s rly big ima learn this and show him how to counter it
Protect yourself!
Greetings teachers , can you defend against a rear naked choke using the elbow pressure point ?
I wouldn't bet on it! But "using" it as part of a larger technique, worth a try!
thanks. :)
This is a solid discussion, but almost all BJJ folks still have a sport mentality even when they discuss practical self-defense. First of all, I consider ANY attack targeting the neck as a lethal attack. Losing consciousness on "the street" is GAME OVER. So the attacker just escalated the force spectrum to MAX by attempting it.
The RIGHT way to defend any technique is to interrupt it as soon after it begins as possible. There are WAY more good options BEFORE the guy buries a knife in your chest than after! Same with any grappling technique in a NON-sporting context. And remember: chokes are LETHAL ATTACKS. So I totally agree with Mr. Kesting that we want to defeat the RNC before it is set if at all possible.
However, there are a host of things I can do in the 10 seconds or more I have if I do not panic and set my chin and neck properly to protect my airway (temporarily...I also agree with that statement) so long as I did not allow my balance to be broken. Also, this is easier if you're taller than the attacker. If you're shorter, that is a big disadvantage once the choke is applied. In short, if I still have my balance and my chin and neck muscles are set, I have a bunch of front-to-back lethal (level of force) tools left in my tool belt. So don't panic! And...as Sensei Ando said...don't give up!
I totally agree… if anything comes near your neck, EXPLODE and clear the danger. And yes, the earlier you start defending, the better! Thanks for the comments, sir!
You're welcome. I enjoy your videos. The light-hearted attitude + the technical merit is refreshing.
Awesome. I appreciate the feedback, sir!
Well Yeah!!! A Rear Naked Choke, in real life, is usually used by bigger, taller, and stronger men on shorter men or women, NOT the other way around. Usually if a shorter person wants to do it, they have to jump on the other person's back, and wrap their legs around their middle and lock their feet at the front. Then apply the choke. Then fall down with the person when he goes down.
Is there a way to counteract this? I'm planning on choking my bully out and I want to make sure he doesn't get out until I let him out.
And if during the choke he close the fist ? You can't grab the finger
True!
Nice techniques! Thanks! 😁😈
Thank you for watching!
I've only escaped a rn a handful of times and it's basically while it's IN motion and not locked. That's in bjj class, usually if they get it locked down I've only got the hand once because they will bury it making it hard.
On the street, different story sloppy placement allows for it way more easily.
For sure. I'm hoping most bad guys aren't also elite grapplers!
Ol' Mr. Clean knows his stuff. A nice guy who could kick your ass. What a paradox!
Most of the toughest guys I know are also the nicest!
Nice teaching techniques.....
Thank you for watching!
My nephew asked if he can show me the rear choke and went all in and messed up my neck. I will never let that happen again.
Hope you’re OK!
The simplest way to defend the choke is the groin punch.
...what if the attacker is female...or came prepared and is wearing a cup? 😆
Could another option be to just step around and turn it straight into a side headlock?
Much easier if the guy doesn’t arch you backwards! If you can keep your hips under you, there’s definitely more wiggle room.
Does it work to run backwards and hope to give him a head injury when you get to the wall?
If you get pulled backwards, you may have no choice but to try! 😁
great collaboration
Thank you very much!
this stephan a real expert
Yes!
slamming the rear naked choker violently backwards smashing them into a wall etc is effective as well. also at the very end with one arm around your neck those fingers are still available to set up a throw.
For sure, running him backwards is worth a shot. Hulk smash! Thanks!
Ando Mierzwa i still had to yank that front arm down though lol but no wall= your techniques brother
Glad you made it, sir!
He did say if they get you in the hold you'll "go to sleep." It should be made clear you'll be unconscious not sleeping. "Sleeping" sounds nice, unconscious means as the follow up blows land you could die from them. Not wake up.
Absolutely. This is deadly serious stuff. Thank you!
Excellent instructor! 👏👏🔥
Thank you for the comment!
If someone jumps on your back and chokes you from behind (backpack position), is it a good idea to fall on your back onto him possibly hitting his head on the ground? Or is it better to bend over and try to unload him infront of you?
You may not have a choice and just go with the momentum.