Building a 100HP Electric GoKart!! // INSANE 72V Surron E-Kart RIPS

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  • Опубліковано 10 січ 2025

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  • @iankelly6931
    @iankelly6931 Рік тому +23

    I built almost the exact same thing about 6 months ago. 2 72v EMBX batteries, a qs 138 90h motor and a 430a controller. With fully charged batteries we are at about 82v discharging 430a nominally that also gives us bursts of about 60hp at 45kw. It is an absolute MONSTER.

    • @jeffhhdro
      @jeffhhdro Рік тому

      What controller did you use?

    • @iankelly6931
      @iankelly6931 Рік тому +1

      @@jeffhhdro the siaecosys/fardriver nd72800

    • @MrMichaelmarrison
      @MrMichaelmarrison Рік тому

      Build me one lol

    • @Keler477
      @Keler477 10 місяців тому

      Holy shit thats insane

    • @Joshyyy805
      @Joshyyy805 9 місяців тому +1

      What are the exact specs of the battery you used? And relatively how long does it last before the kart is dead?

  • @bryceberryracingberry8405
    @bryceberryracingberry8405 Рік тому +18

    You should take this build to a go kart track and show it off to the people there and see how fast it is on a track!!! This thing is sick clean build man!

  • @ScubaSam242
    @ScubaSam242 Рік тому +28

    Love this build, I have 2 karts I need to convert and your layout was clean, great job, I definitely want to see more electric kart content ⚡️

  • @EmxBrandon
    @EmxBrandon Рік тому +94

    70h and 90h is the size of the magnets in the different versions of the qs138 not the hp! If its their 25kw kit its only around 33hp.

    • @ac1dra1n
      @ac1dra1n Рік тому +8

      was just about to comment this

    • @JustPlaneNutzRC
      @JustPlaneNutzRC Рік тому +13

      100hp would be close to 75 kW. You would need a 72v battery that could put out over 1000 amps to power the motor.

    • @geauxracerx
      @geauxracerx Рік тому +6

      Yes 25,000 watts ÷ 750 watts = 33.333333hp
      750 watts = 1hp

    • @Danny-pp8xz
      @Danny-pp8xz Рік тому +4

      if u look close at 5.11 min u see the motor is only 4000w

    • @geauxracerx
      @geauxracerx Рік тому +4

      @@Danny-pp8xz that’s 5.3hp then

  • @DrivingatSunset
    @DrivingatSunset Рік тому +3

    I was thinking of building one just today, and then this pops up after I refreshed! Seems like a sign 👀

  • @shadowsandfire
    @shadowsandfire Рік тому +72

    This looks fun but theres no way it makes 100hp, 100hp is 74kw and rough math that 72v battery would have to put out more than 1000amps to the controller with no loss to get 100hp, my guess is it probably makes 20hp but its torquey! Would love to see it on a dyno

    • @caluzzucarrazzi5549
      @caluzzucarrazzi5549 Рік тому

      I can tell from the speed it's making about 40hp If not even more

    • @Foppa905
      @Foppa905 Рік тому

      ​@@caluzzucarrazzi5549probabaly more like 20hp to 30

    • @mattbanks3517
      @mattbanks3517 Рік тому +2

      @@caluzzucarrazzi5549 dont' compare to gas, gas engines only have their rated max hp in a very narrow band of rpm, where as electric motors are much different. it might be a 40hp engine, but it might output 20hp when it runs

    • @caluzzucarrazzi5549
      @caluzzucarrazzi5549 Рік тому

      @@mattbanks3517 ?

    • @johannapoder2843
      @johannapoder2843 11 місяців тому

      @@mattbanks3517 yes

  • @Chromedragon79
    @Chromedragon79 Рік тому +27

    Just for your info, that's not a shifter kart. It's a standard 2-stroke kart. Shifters have a whole lot more kit to them, a shifter for one. Clutch handle, three brakes instead of one (one on each front wheel and a third on the rear axle). For the power and weight you have in there a three-brake setup wouldn't be a terrible idea.

    • @Mrsdm4
      @Mrsdm4 Місяць тому

      It is a shifter. But without some components

    • @doubledocjackieweave
      @doubledocjackieweave Місяць тому

      not a shifter...those have front brakes

    • @Mrsdm4
      @Mrsdm4 Місяць тому

      @@doubledocjackieweave Just because the steering knuckle with the brake cylinder and brake disc isn't attached?
      The kart is a shifter!! But the steering knuckles have been replaced, you clever guys.

  • @BikesandBlickeys
    @BikesandBlickeys Рік тому +4

    Old guy seemed awesome. That’s my plan when I get too old to ride moto is get into shifter karts

  • @Ebbrush3
    @Ebbrush3 Рік тому +100

    the controller has three wires going to the motor ...reverse two of the wires to change rotation

    • @tgif9735
      @tgif9735 Рік тому +35

      Yes it's a 3 phase brushless motor, but it's "sensored" so you cannot just swap the phase wires. It will smoke the hall sensors and fry the motor.. You have to go into the UI or app and change the settings to reverse the motor direction.

    • @Todd_G_FPV
      @Todd_G_FPV Рік тому +3

      ​@tgif9735 not sure on these but alot of ebikes u can swap 2 on the motor and one of the same colors and one opposite color from what u swapped on the motor fir the hall sensor and itll work too

    • @IRONCaptainPanic
      @IRONCaptainPanic Рік тому +3

      ​@Todd_Gerhardt those are Sensorless Brushless motors, Sensorless Brushless motors don't have the hall effect sensors and the circuit for the sensors used for finding the position of the rotor, so reversing the 2 out of the 3 phase wires has no consequences besides reversing the phase direction for power input. Sensored Brushless motors such as this one use hall sensors to determine the position of the rotor so it can start up and run smoother at lower rpms and be more precise with power delivery eliminating the cogging effect Sensorless Brushless motors have when at lower rpms or when trying to move from a standstill. but because of the sensors, you can't swap the wires to change the direction without de-syncing the sensor circuit from the phase wires and shorting it out making the motor and esc useless. So hence why sensored Brushless motors and esc's can't just be reversed by swapping phase wires like Sensorless systems, it confuses and shorts out the sensor system, each hall effect sensor has its assigned designated phase wire.

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 Рік тому

      @@tgif9735 Oof.

    • @FarmerFpv
      @FarmerFpv Рік тому +1

      @@Todd_G_FPV If you do that with a sensored system you end up flipping the timing. Always do it in the UI. It takes but 10 seconds.

  • @emotogang
    @emotogang Рік тому +3

    Best ECart I’ve Seen So Far🌟

  • @Minacious_Shenanigans
    @Minacious_Shenanigans Рік тому +3

    Dude, that thing is so sick. Great video man!

  • @colbywishneski5800
    @colbywishneski5800 Рік тому +2

    Finally different montage music this time🙏

  • @Turbski1
    @Turbski1 Рік тому +2

    that thing is so cool, crazy you uploaded this, im curently building a Surron Powerplant on a minibike!!

  • @jmfkinp627
    @jmfkinp627 Рік тому +1

    started watching like 5 years ago bro, first time ive been early enough to get a comment in, whip that shit

  • @jessemacneil2723
    @jessemacneil2723 Рік тому +2

    dude thats mental . Cool build man

  • @ignuxas64
    @ignuxas64 Рік тому +12

    If that screen displays Amps, the max draw I saw was 200 Amps, which with 72 Volts is 14,4kw, which is about 19 HP, which is still insane, but the title is quite a bit misleading, great content though, keep it up!

    • @SonsOfAnxiety
      @SonsOfAnxiety Рік тому +1

      was thinking the same. 100hp is 75kw

    • @Foppa905
      @Foppa905 Рік тому

      19hp 😂

    • @OutOfNameIdeas2
      @OutOfNameIdeas2 7 місяців тому

      So it's actually very slow for an adult gokart. Very very very expensive for such little HP.
      It's a lot but not in comparison to the gas ones

  • @synical2316
    @synical2316 Рік тому +1

    ill miss the old 2 stroke petrol go karting leagues, but its videos like these that get me hyped for leagues to switch to karts like these

  • @joshuarenouf
    @joshuarenouf Рік тому +1

    Those @mouscase Intra Lock System looks great!

  • @socratesdaveros1166
    @socratesdaveros1166 Рік тому +3

    Thats freaking cool so much power i cant wait to see its full potential

  • @jwal804
    @jwal804 Рік тому +2

    So dope🔥🔥. Hope Kelly Motorsport track opens up next to Area! But you should take it to Genesee Valley Cart club in Avon.

  • @JacobSherwood
    @JacobSherwood Рік тому +1

    Welcome to the kart game 😎

  • @burtontrask1910
    @burtontrask1910 Рік тому

    SURRON KART YOOOOO THAT IS GENEOUS!!!!!!!!

  • @battleface1
    @battleface1 Рік тому +2

    Tyler da 🐐

  • @danielgrace7408
    @danielgrace7408 Рік тому

    About time. Something that's Shred tires. 👍👍👍👍

  • @thatsmyrc
    @thatsmyrc Рік тому +3

    Hell yea I’ve had many margay race karts. Living in margay town and let me say these electric conversions can kick the 💩 out of a petro engine 👍🏼

  • @Doty6String
    @Doty6String Рік тому +1

    Nothing more fun than a go kart

  • @stingyrogerr
    @stingyrogerr Рік тому +2

    Great video man!

  • @adammacmullin9571
    @adammacmullin9571 Рік тому +2

    Wow wicked cool build

  • @robertgardner7470
    @robertgardner7470 Рік тому

    I just saw your video today that you did several years ago and you took my advice of going electric on this project. A smaller sprocket on axle produces increased speed but less torque. I would mount motor on rubber spacers to reduce noise. Also shielding the motor will reduce noise for quieter ride. Again, I was right by going electric. Sorry you live in NY with 6-months of winter.

  • @pcservice709
    @pcservice709 Рік тому +1

    That shit is crazy bro. Watching from Newfoundland Canada. Can’t wait to see more of this beast.

  • @filippapadopoulos4965
    @filippapadopoulos4965 Рік тому +4

    Sick man

  • @monsterelectricgokart
    @monsterelectricgokart Рік тому +2

    I have 3 years of experience building a 130V 750Ah sustainable battery and I'm still not done. I broke more than 100 cells and a few BMS. To get that kind of performance, you need a really heavy batterypack. I currently have almost 65 kg two battery packs and only 3.38 kw. can drive only 2 minutes.
    greetings from Germany

    • @Marco-vn1db
      @Marco-vn1db Рік тому

      Can only drive two minutes? You're telling me you can discharge 130v 750Ah batteries in just 2 minutes?!

  • @obiotwastaken
    @obiotwastaken Рік тому +5

    Amazing vid as always! Cant wait to see the full video of the go-kart :) And maybe some cool street riding too🤷‍♂

  • @juanjosepauta1154
    @juanjosepauta1154 Рік тому +1

    So sick, awesome video 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @ganglandlandlord9870
    @ganglandlandlord9870 Рік тому

    The music was fire af 🔥

  • @stonedeadoutdoors189
    @stonedeadoutdoors189 Рік тому +1

    Wish I would have known that you bought my father's comp kart iv been a subscriber for years

  • @antecboy
    @antecboy 11 місяців тому

    Motor is a 4kW motor from QS motors (motor model visible at 5:27). I have some reservations about that "100HP" power figure even with larger peak powers in short bursts...

  • @tyemckeown3672
    @tyemckeown3672 Рік тому +3

    Looks like fun 😂

  • @THEKITPLUG
    @THEKITPLUG Рік тому +1

    My toxic trait is me thinking that I should build one of these.

  • @RastaRider
    @RastaRider Рік тому +2

    Badass! Haha cool build and I've liked your channel for years. Crazy neighbors sometimes but hey keep doing you're thing, broski. Cheers from Tampa Bay 🌴🤙🏼

  • @srqTagle
    @srqTagle Рік тому

    Very nice techniques used here.

  • @DRS_Power
    @DRS_Power Рік тому +1

    Shifter karts usually have front brakes too. If the power is that high you might want to add those.

  • @raymondsiewert2720
    @raymondsiewert2720 Рік тому +2

    You should take orders and start building them, since you know the problems you faced and now have it wired !

  • @JacksonOffroad25
    @JacksonOffroad25 Рік тому +5

    I’d love to do a 72 volt atv build. Get an old yfz 450 roller or something. Would be fun

  • @raymondsiewert2720
    @raymondsiewert2720 Рік тому +2

    Loved watching you build this bad ass cart ! It is fun to be rich ! 😊

  •  Рік тому +1

    Few small things:
    - You don't have a keyway on the sprocket to avoid spinning the sprocket on the axle. Google "kart axle keyway".
    - Lube the chain before every drive or you are buying new sprockets. Also the bearings, ball joints, front hub bearings.
    - Buy a chain guard, if the chain breaks it could hurt.
    Nice build!

  • @stephenwarburton690
    @stephenwarburton690 Рік тому +2

    That one bad ass go-kart 👌 can't wait for the full video should race a tesla 😂😂

  • @appv12
    @appv12 Рік тому

    9:49 all you have to do is swap any two wires on the motor. It will reverse the direction. Dont forget all this "new" E stuff is just RC car tech upscaled.

  • @junebuggnc
    @junebuggnc Рік тому +1

    and of course donuts in the drive way is the first thing you do!!!! LOL

  • @Hootman865
    @Hootman865 11 місяців тому +1

    I go hang out with the previous owner. Not only been riding for a long time but kicking ass for years

  • @Ebbrush3
    @Ebbrush3 Рік тому +1

    and a chain guard ....when you get some time
    ratchet strap for the battery

  • @creativecasitallc
    @creativecasitallc Рік тому

    You earned yourself a subscriber. This was dope af!

    • @RATBALL_VR
      @RATBALL_VR Рік тому

      Same this is the only vid ive watched from him and i just subbed

  • @flying5145
    @flying5145 Рік тому +10

    This one of the most tasteful electric conversion. It would be nice if you left a cost list. Btw you can adjust the ride height quite easily to avoid flattening the chassis tubes :) Oh and what is the weight?

  • @Purple-hk7dy
    @Purple-hk7dy Рік тому +1

    maybe a few lead plates on the opposite side of the cart to even things out around turns? idk, center of gravity is so low it might not matter much.

  • @cartracer64
    @cartracer64 Рік тому +2

    nice build i like the way you adapted the motor to the original motor mount. the rear gear bolted right up to the carrier. how much to build excluding the chassis.

  • @critical
    @critical Рік тому +2

    That "90H" kit is nowhere near 90 hp, its 25kw max output according to their webpage, that's 33 horsepowers...?

  • @blomjohan
    @blomjohan Рік тому +1

    Do a quad 🤘🏼👌🏼

  • @nickolaslandon4640
    @nickolaslandon4640 Рік тому +3

    I would highly recommend building a chain guard. That would be a bad day if that broke and whipped you

  • @longscallop2107
    @longscallop2107 Рік тому +1

    Bruh that music during the build could not have been worse😂😂💀

  • @TattedTommysTv
    @TattedTommysTv Рік тому +1

    Brah you live anywhere with snow still on the ground you need to move lol we're 110 in Dallas your content would blow in another state

  • @kasuraga
    @kasuraga Рік тому +4

    Alright, I figured it out. You have a misunderstanding of Electro's model numbers. they have a "70H" and a "90H" kit. This refers to the overall length of the motor, not its power output. The kit you have is a 90H kit with the EM-260 controller that produces a peak power of 25kW/33hp. not 100hp.

    • @jscruz2
      @jscruz2 Рік тому +1

      Not even that. Look closely about 5:12 in the video. The motor is a 72v 4000w ( 4kw, a little over 5hp).

    • @kasuraga
      @kasuraga Рік тому +1

      @@jscruz2 You're totally right. I was mixing up the actual motor specs with the motor controller specs

    • @colinriches1519
      @colinriches1519 Рік тому +1

      ​@@jscruz2These motors are deliberately under rated by the manufacturer as a way to slip under the radar so to speak. Its clearly not processing anywhere near the claimed amount by the video. But, these motors are much more capable than their rating suggests. The qs138 70h can handle 30kw whereas the 90h version can do about 35kw at 72v before encountering heat problems.
      There are no standard regulations for motor power at the moment, meaning its down to the manufacturers discretion. However in the last couple of years, certain ebike motor kit manufacturers have decided to take advantage of this and made ridiculous claims on the power level of their products. There's a mid drive cyc motor kit that the company claims can handle 5kw. It's a bullsh1t claim. The magnets are tiny and phase wires cannot handle the amount of current required to make 5kw even at 72v without heat damage.

  • @4rthursan571
    @4rthursan571 Рік тому +1

    Bro how did you fix that it spined backwards?

  • @Swankyestbrute
    @Swankyestbrute Рік тому +1

    You should check out this newer enging called the omega 1 it was based off of rotry engines a 35 lb engine making 160hp id love to fab one to a motorcycle.

  • @pasiannala148
    @pasiannala148 Рік тому

    Onneton surkee kohellus sun videosi ! Kuvaus epätarkkaa linttaa tärisevää vilkuntaa vain onnettomia sekunnin vilauksia. Selostus kauheeta kohellusta,,, ei jatkoon !

  • @THE_A.RAVEN1
    @THE_A.RAVEN1 Рік тому +1

    I want to build one of these as a fun alternative to doing road courses in my actual cars. I see it as a new hobby, a challenge of my tinkering skills, and a new wormhole to go down for years to come. I only fear fire upon rapid discharge/use and charging the batteries. Is the first mod to my shop a better fire suppression system for the garage?

  • @omarwilliams4106
    @omarwilliams4106 Рік тому

    So sick!

  • @gavwilldo
    @gavwilldo Рік тому +7

    That setup would be lucky to make 1/4 of the 100hp the video title suggests

  • @JaneCooper-kh2jv
    @JaneCooper-kh2jv Рік тому

    Sick bro 😮😯

  • @muntee33
    @muntee33 Рік тому +1

    Would running a battery up front, either where fuel tank would sit, help with balance/flex/grip? Or shifting the battery position net to the side pods more towards the front?
    Just seems like an awful lot of weight to position so far rearwards and laterally. That's gotta adversely affect how the frame behaves and grip/drive is made. Plus there's little mass up front to act as a fulcrum like point for the roll centre, to be in/near the centre....

  • @_JYT
    @_JYT Рік тому

    Nah here in Canada that weather is beautiful

  • @brethart8094
    @brethart8094 Рік тому +7

    I'd like to see an off road kart with full suspension

  • @Bmr4life
    @Bmr4life Рік тому

    @3:16 a fuse connecting the positive and negative battery wires????

  • @BryanLopez-di7ui
    @BryanLopez-di7ui Рік тому +2

    QUESTION!!!
    Which E&C kit did you use for this masterpiece?

  • @TheoXydias_PerlaCoffeeTrailer

    one question which qs138 motor is this? because i can see a lot of options what watts?

  • @saadgill1656
    @saadgill1656 11 місяців тому

    I would like to know which exact specs did you pick through electric and co like for example what motor ,controller, battery , throttle etc for a similar build and I would also like to know the gear ratio.

  • @burn1gotbeats
    @burn1gotbeats Рік тому +1

    Very nice respect

  • @dr.projectx5142
    @dr.projectx5142 Рік тому +1

    This is very neat. I'll be buying the kit for my e scooter and throw in a 32 tooth sprocket in the back and that will be neat. That not bad. Speed average 25mph on the speedometer reading ??

  • @nenaeneto1
    @nenaeneto1 Рік тому

    This is amazing. What time duration this battery? In extreme use, racing, what duration battery time?

  • @eltk1343
    @eltk1343 10 місяців тому

    How have you make for accelerator with pedal? I don't understand!!! Thanks😉

  • @cbluben7
    @cbluben7 3 місяці тому

    Power wheels would be pretty cool with minimal mods. Especially for younger viewers

  • @spudskirc4458
    @spudskirc4458 Рік тому +3

    That’s awesome, what did you use to convert the twist throttle to the peddle on the kart?

  • @blobcsgo7190
    @blobcsgo7190 Рік тому

    I would recommend getting slightly LESS sticky tires for dry street drifting, this thing wants to stick

  • @Jonesy522
    @Jonesy522 Рік тому +1

    I’m just wondering how much total for this setup ?

  • @charlieredeemed
    @charlieredeemed Рік тому +1

    Sick!!!

  • @HkRose
    @HkRose Рік тому +1

    just like in rc cars for the battery, velcro straps.

  • @saltyfly3260
    @saltyfly3260 Рік тому +1

    Does the kit come with a pedal throttle?

  • @ionaioana6501
    @ionaioana6501 10 місяців тому

    sick build man but I look through electron and co cant find the kit you were using

  • @paucarneado487
    @paucarneado487 Рік тому

    How does that accelerator pedal work? Is it mechanical or electronic

  • @cyrobittencourt1279
    @cyrobittencourt1279 11 місяців тому

    AMAZING!!!!

  • @JJM_VLOGS
    @JJM_VLOGS Рік тому +1

    Bro said 100 mph 😂😂

  • @campoint.x1032
    @campoint.x1032 Рік тому +1

    just changing to phases of the motor and the motor turns the other direction or cjange in the app

    • @tgif9735
      @tgif9735 Рік тому

      You can't because it is a sensored motor. Only way is through the UI.

    • @campoint.x1032
      @campoint.x1032 Рік тому

      @@tgif9735 that’s equal, did you try it?

  • @ricardorose416
    @ricardorose416 10 місяців тому

    I just need to know which sprocket and chain kits you got

  • @jsjrspivey
    @jsjrspivey Рік тому

    Build another test gas electric really cool!

  • @kimbryangella9716
    @kimbryangella9716 Рік тому

    Cant wait to see this race with an engine go cart

  • @travisschulz6342
    @travisschulz6342 Рік тому +6

    100hp ? Lol that would mean you’re pushing 74,500 watts through that motor which you’re now 1hp is 745watt

  • @-lolus-
    @-lolus- Рік тому +3

    love the build the thing rips , but that aint 100hp build , that battery (and calbles) cannot hanlde the curretnt at 72v to get 100hp. maybe motor can handle it but that battery aint pushing that amount of power.

  • @michaelrankin4271
    @michaelrankin4271 9 місяців тому

    What is the battery leads and what is the controller that you are using?

  • @jamesroquemore2616
    @jamesroquemore2616 Рік тому +2

    How long will it run on a single charge? Thinking of building one for Autocrossing. Wondering if I can use a single charge to be competitive or will I need more than one battery.

    • @geauxracerx
      @geauxracerx Рік тому

      If you’re “racing” battery will go fast. This is why they switch batteries mid race in formula E

  • @AidanB-b9y
    @AidanB-b9y Рік тому

    how’d you connect the throttle and pedal?

  • @tolishel
    @tolishel 4 місяці тому

    Where did you get the rear sprocket and what chain size did you use? thank you!