Looking at the crowds at boxing matches I reckon there should be a fund for boxers fans kids.......this sport is a nest of bagheads. That's why Saudi shows are better.
Love listening to your videos Curtis. You’re always so honest and interesting to listen to. Straight to the point and insightful. I’ve started sitting in the car park listening to your videos before going in to work procrastinating 🤣. Keep doing the same brother.
Imagine the exposure that Curtis would give to this subject in an episode of The Overlap with Gary Neville. I think a lot of people would be shocked. Sky would never allow that of course. What about Simon Jordan? He claims to take on the establishment, but Talksport are owned by Sky and he wouldn't do it. This is really telling the truth in Sport
good video Curtis - some thoughts which may or may not be of interest:- 1) some sort of levy on fight revenues in the millions to support fighters on the small hall circuit 2) try to engage terrestrial television and see if some money can be squeezed out that way 3) the ultimate aim has to be to unify the sport a la UFC, so many doors open if that can be pulled off
Dana was criticised for not paying enough. These boxers don't get paid at all. In fact it costs them to fight. I don't know the answer. The problem is not straight forward it seems to me.
Really explained that well . I follow the sport and have enjoyed listening to Porky and some of his guests chewing the fat about the mistreatment of fighter's rights and pay. You should get on a zoom with him as he mentions tocket deals a lot but yiu just broke it down fir the layman perfectly. I hope things change. Keep talking about it these things gain traction and by discussing with other people you might help the sutuation. Better than sayin nothing.
Subscribed ! This is the side of boxing i have to wanted to find out about . Also the cost of a boxing camp , paying your trainers , where is the money for 3 month camp before the fight etc . Thankyou Sir .
I guess this is akin to grass roots football, there's such a disparity between the top and the bottom. I agree, the top of the tree should do more to subsidise the bottom. Good to raise awareness on this issue mate, fair play.
Same with all combat sport and sport in general, small / mid size promoters don't promote anymore so they want sure sales ie) Already popular people - " internet influencers ", not fighters per se.
Alot of pro sports are the same, especially the semi contact and full contact ones, like walking a high wire, the older you get the more chance of a serious injury that's gonna stay with you long after your done.
Very interesting Curtis. I wouldn't have the answers either but clearly something has to be done as the sport will die without its grass roots. I appreciate that you are not responsible for the state of the game but maybe it needs more ex fighters with bigger profiles to help highlight the problems faced by 99.9% of fighters and it might not be in their interests to do so.
Riyadh season is like drug money 💰 sweet and fast but we all know the downfall them Arabs will leave the game🥊 in a complete mess and the upcoming boxers will struggle for even more years like they are now frank warren should start his own season there’s a opportunity for a niche British 🇬🇧 season loads of fights we want to see that domestically
Riyadh Season is State sponsored sport washing where the Saudi government spend obscene money to promote their country to sports fans around the world. The British government can't even heat the homes of the elderly and there are record numbers of food banks in the UK, there is absolutely no way they would be able to agree to pay hundreds of millions to boxers to have fights.
This is true why I’m always skeptical of the ‘prospects’ that get pushed. Small hall promoters are basically event coordinators. I think it comes down to the top 3% to somehow subsidise the 97% but like you say the takers don’t want to give back. I know in mma the ufc pays the small promotions to put shows on their streaming site and that what kinda keeps the shows alive so the pressure to sell isn’t so big. 50+ ticket minimum boxing a journey man over 4rds is mad. I don’t think it’ll change anytime soon it’ll take someone stepping in like a uk version of turkey al shake. Who’s not assed about losing big money and just wants to see the scene thrive
Boxing has always been like that in Britain, you speak the truth,it is why Warren and Hearn are only too happy with Durbai shows,the young just turned boxers of today have way too much pressure in there heads from there debuts.
Not just boxing that's extortionate to attend. Colleague of mine goes to watch our local national league team every other Saturday. £22 It's National League ffs! Others: Cinema - gone through the roof. Price of a pint...unbelievable Concert.....see the prices to watch a couple of knob end brothers perform recently. Everything has shot up across the board.
I agree with you 100% but I think if everyone made a decision to boycott some of these businesses the prices would come down they'd have too. I don't see that happening though
Its a Disgrace Curtis.....watched Dave Allens Vid a few weeks ago, and he said exactly the same ...and Daves putting in money out of his own pocket because he said if he didnt they wouldnt be able to fight....The Big Biys shiuld like you said trickle some of their money down to the Small Hall Shows
Yes good! He sells very very well already, every fight it gets higher. My aim is to build him locally before we take the next step. I’m hoping 2025 to keep him active with hopefully an Area title fight at the end of the year
@@theglovesareoffwithcurtisw8442 from what I've seen of him he is freak of nature.. The power he has is frightening and wish him all the success being a local lad
Bring back Friday night fights on sky sports , give small halls tv exposure for free and help build names and the sport. Like others have said Warren/Hearn etc should be helping trickle money down to the lower levels. The sport will die unless things change.
You need to be lucky or have the x factor. You said fighters who lose too often cannot fight but Amir Khan seems to break this rule. I guess it's because he's a social butterfly like you said. He did well in the Olympics too and everyone likes him. He's just a likable guy I guess. And, although he lost many he was never boring in the ring. But then there's Derek Chisora. He's the complete opposite of Amir Khan. He's boring, unfriendly, offensive. He's boring in the ring too. Yet he keeps selling tickets. It makes no real sense to me and I completely get why you're struggling to find the solution. I don't know...
Mr Woodhouse - I think you need to own your own venue where you dont need to pay the rent money to hire the hall - sounds ridiculous i know but i guess you need sponsors donatins for an arena that can hold a small hall show -a place where all boxers around the country can fight And then you will have a monopoly are the up and coming boxers in the country - A Gladiatoral Arena even teaming up with MMA anything to bring in the crowd that love combat -Thats the only way -You have to own your own small hall
Boxing is hard as it is, how do boxers cope on small hall shows, something charitable needs to be done where fans and top fighters and promoters put money away for these small hall fighters who can claim when funds
Long and short of it Boxing is gradually going down the toilet. Real fighters are being lost to other industries such as building sites, supermarkets etc and replaced with imposters.
Back in 1960s, 70s and the 80s it was terrible absolutely shocking fighters getting used out for Fun. I’ve heard some real shocking stories, but I’m not gonna go into it. Don’t tell me nothing about promoters
Noticed Hasnan Ali debut loss in a minute. He had so many fans there for a debut it was clearly a ticket deal to get his debut on channel 5. Saudi money has wrecked the sport for fans. Your getting the elite getting massive paydays now fighting way way way beyond there peak, non of them retiring now. Belts and loses mean nothing to them there is always another payday. When all the elite have fought each other where are the next generation coming from? Saudi interest goes as there will be no name fighters left to fight.
Boxing is a mugs game. Little kids are sold the dream of winning a leather belt to put on the wall. 99% of fighters leave boxing with brain damage and not a pot to pis5 in. What an absolute joke!!! My mates kid is pro and he can't sell 20 tickets. All the lads in the gym are always on the same show as well. They all have the same mates. So the onus is left down to the parents to pay up 1500 quid so their son can keep winning and one day win a leather belt. Boxing died decades ago.
Former british light middleweight of the world 😂😂😂😂😂😂. No just of britain mate. You didn't get anywhere near a world title bro. Think you took 2 many shots to the head bro
Former British light welterweight champion of the world 🤣🤣 He speaks better than most boxers do. He had some wars as well. Take 2 to give one kind of style
100% bang on Curtis.
There’s also a lot of fighters who have cherry picked opponents to pad records because they do sell tickets.
Very hard game
Disgusting. Promoters like Hearn and Warren should set up a fund to help the guys struggling at the base of the sport. How much money do they need?
It's a cruel world
But a struggling fighter costs the promoters money. This is unacceptable.
Chris Eubank Jr was right, most Promoters are no better than pimps
Looking at the crowds at boxing matches I reckon there should be a fund for boxers fans kids.......this sport is a nest of bagheads. That's why Saudi shows are better.
Well explained mate another insightful video from you.
Thanks mate
Love listening to your videos Curtis. You’re always so honest and interesting to listen to. Straight to the point and insightful. I’ve started sitting in the car park listening to your videos before going in to work procrastinating 🤣. Keep doing the same brother.
Love that mate! Glad you are enjoying the content
Imagine the exposure that Curtis would give to this subject in an episode of The Overlap with Gary Neville.
I think a lot of people would be shocked.
Sky would never allow that of course.
What about Simon Jordan?
He claims to take on the establishment, but Talksport are owned by Sky and he wouldn't do it.
This is really telling the truth in Sport
good video Curtis - some thoughts which may or may not be of interest:-
1) some sort of levy on fight revenues in the millions to support fighters on the small hall circuit
2) try to engage terrestrial television and see if some money can be squeezed out that way
3) the ultimate aim has to be to unify the sport a la UFC, so many doors open if that can be pulled off
Dana was criticised for not paying enough. These boxers don't get paid at all. In fact it costs them to fight. I don't know the answer. The problem is not straight forward it seems to me.
I read your book . Enjoyed it
Thank you mate
Really explained that well . I follow the sport and have enjoyed listening to Porky and some of his guests chewing the fat about the mistreatment of fighter's rights and pay. You should get on a zoom with him as he mentions tocket deals a lot but yiu just broke it down fir the layman perfectly. I hope things change. Keep talking about it these things gain traction and by discussing with other people you might help the sutuation. Better than sayin nothing.
Subscribed ! This is the side of boxing i have to wanted to find out about . Also the cost of a boxing camp , paying your trainers , where is the money for 3 month camp before the fight etc . Thankyou Sir .
Welcome on board mate
This is very interesting and informative, thanks Curtis.
Former British light welterweight champion of the world! 😂
I thought the same
Amateur boxers will get a degree or have a decent job and not turn pro its becoming a popularity contest talent doesnt get u tv deals
This happened to Liam Cameron didn’t it till now
And a commonwealth title challenger to im watching you vs Dirty Derry now 🥊🥊
We have tax money for everything bad for our nations, we could easily set up something for struggling fighters.
Very insightful !!
Thanks for this.
I guess this is akin to grass roots football, there's such a disparity between the top and the bottom. I agree, the top of the tree should do more to subsidise the bottom. Good to raise awareness on this issue mate, fair play.
Same with all combat sport and sport in general, small / mid size promoters don't promote anymore so they want sure sales ie) Already popular people - " internet influencers ", not fighters per se.
Alot of pro sports are the same, especially the semi contact and full contact ones, like walking a high wire, the older you get the more chance of a serious injury that's gonna stay with you long after your done.
Very interesting Curtis. I wouldn't have the answers either but clearly something has to be done as the sport will die without its grass roots. I appreciate that you are not responsible for the state of the game but maybe it needs more ex fighters with bigger profiles to help highlight the problems faced by 99.9% of fighters and it might not be in their interests to do so.
Riyadh season is like drug money 💰 sweet and fast but we all know the downfall them Arabs will leave the game🥊 in a complete mess and the upcoming boxers will struggle for even more years like they are now frank warren should start his own season there’s a opportunity for a niche British 🇬🇧 season loads of fights we want to see that domestically
Riyadh Season is State sponsored sport washing where the Saudi government spend obscene money to promote their country to sports fans around the world. The British government can't even heat the homes of the elderly and there are record numbers of food banks in the UK, there is absolutely no way they would be able to agree to pay hundreds of millions to boxers to have fights.
Go home gary
This is true why I’m always skeptical of the ‘prospects’ that get pushed. Small hall promoters are basically event coordinators. I think it comes down to the top 3% to somehow subsidise the 97% but like you say the takers don’t want to give back. I know in mma the ufc pays the small promotions to put shows on their streaming site and that what kinda keeps the shows alive so the pressure to sell isn’t so big. 50+ ticket minimum boxing a journey man over 4rds is mad. I don’t think it’ll change anytime soon it’ll take someone stepping in like a uk version of turkey al shake. Who’s not assed about losing big money and just wants to see the scene thrive
Boxing has always been like that in Britain, you speak the truth,it is why Warren and Hearn are only too happy with Durbai shows,the young just turned boxers of today have way too much pressure in there heads from there debuts.
Interesting to hear this
Not just boxing that's extortionate to attend.
Colleague of mine goes to watch our local national league team every other Saturday. £22
It's National League ffs!
Others:
Cinema - gone through the roof.
Price of a pint...unbelievable
Concert.....see the prices to watch a couple of knob end brothers perform recently.
Everything has shot up across the board.
I agree with you 100% but I think if everyone made a decision to boycott some of these businesses the prices would come down they'd have too. I don't see that happening though
Its a Disgrace Curtis.....watched Dave Allens Vid a few weeks ago, and he said exactly the same ...and Daves putting in money out of his own pocket because he said if he didnt they wouldnt be able to fight....The Big Biys shiuld like you said trickle some of their money down to the Small Hall Shows
Daves been paid a fortune an hes never won a belt , hes been very lucky, ye the 4 rounds hes doing now you cant expect much until hes on Sky
Wow, eye opening!
Hi Curtis... How do you think Adrian will get on selling tickets in his future fights. He is certainly getting his name out there
Yes good! He sells very very well already, every fight it gets higher. My aim is to build him locally before we take the next step. I’m hoping 2025 to keep him active with hopefully an Area title fight at the end of the year
@@theglovesareoffwithcurtisw8442 from what I've seen of him he is freak of nature.. The power he has is frightening and wish him all the success being a local lad
I’m surprised small hall shows are still going if things are as bad as this
Yeah but, I was Boxing which got me a job as a Bouncer cause I was feared.!😊
Bring back Friday night fights on sky sports , give small halls tv exposure for free and help build names and the sport. Like others have said Warren/Hearn etc should be helping trickle money down to the lower levels. The sport will die unless things change.
Good vid 👍
It’s all a money washing / gambling scam / distraction
Maybe the Saudi Bag should be spread out across regional shows.................
Once a Blade… 👍
You need to be lucky or have the x factor. You said fighters who lose too often cannot fight but Amir Khan seems to break this rule. I guess it's because he's a social butterfly like you said. He did well in the Olympics too and everyone likes him. He's just a likable guy I guess. And, although he lost many he was never boring in the ring. But then there's Derek Chisora. He's the complete opposite of Amir Khan. He's boring, unfriendly, offensive. He's boring in the ring too. Yet he keeps selling tickets. It makes no real sense to me and I completely get why you're struggling to find the solution. I don't know...
Mr Woodhouse - I think you need to own your own venue where you dont need to pay the rent money to hire the hall - sounds ridiculous i know but i guess you need sponsors donatins for an arena that can hold a small hall show -a place where all boxers around the country can fight And then you will have a monopoly are the up and coming boxers in the country - A Gladiatoral Arena even teaming up with MMA anything to bring in the crowd that love combat -Thats the only way -You have to own your own small hall
Boxing is hard as it is, how do boxers cope on small hall shows, something charitable needs to be done where fans and top fighters and promoters put money away for these small hall fighters who can claim when funds
Imagine that in any other form in life. My paying to work. Doesn't make sense
Then you get ppl you went to school with asking for tickets haha
Long and short of it Boxing is gradually going down the toilet. Real fighters are being lost to other industries such as building sites, supermarkets etc and replaced with imposters.
That it's dead? And has been since the major broadcoasters of the US lost interest?
Plan B .......be the away fighter
Back in 1960s, 70s and the 80s it was terrible absolutely shocking fighters getting used out for Fun.
I’ve heard some real shocking stories, but I’m not gonna go into it. Don’t tell me nothing about promoters
Noticed Hasnan Ali debut loss in a minute. He had so many fans there for a debut it was clearly a ticket deal to get his debut on channel 5.
Saudi money has wrecked the sport for fans. Your getting the elite getting massive paydays now fighting way way way beyond there peak, non of them retiring now. Belts and loses mean nothing to them there is always another payday. When all the elite have fought each other where are the next generation coming from? Saudi interest goes as there will be no name fighters left to fight.
Boxing is a mugs game. Little kids are sold the dream of winning a leather belt to put on the wall. 99% of fighters leave boxing with brain damage and not a pot to pis5 in. What an absolute joke!!! My mates kid is pro and he can't sell 20 tickets. All the lads in the gym are always on the same show as well. They all have the same mates. So the onus is left down to the parents to pay up 1500 quid so their son can keep winning and one day win a leather belt. Boxing died decades ago.
Have you ever seen a poor boxing promoter no definitely not Wake up
They are no good just using the boxers
I keep hearing AJ has done sooo much for British boxing. Really 🤔
A Boxing union maybe ???? Or is that too far fetched ?
Former british light middleweight of the world 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
No just of britain mate.
You didn't get anywhere near a world title bro.
Think you took 2 many shots to the head bro
Former British light welterweight champion of the world 🤣🤣 He speaks better than most boxers do. He had some wars as well. Take 2 to give one kind of style
English champion as well.
And a former premier league footballer as well.
I've got to give him maximum respect.
I have