I love how John shares even his failed pursuits. It highlights the competitive spirit between sellers and rival buyers and makes his successes feel a little more special.
You told this story with amazing self control!! I did all the cussing for you! I knew she sold it for more money!! I called her every name in the book for you!!
Unlucky this time around. In business this actually sounds like a fairly low cost lesson that’ll really serve you well going forward. Love the channel. Better luck next time…
I love the fact that you are dropping all of this incredible history of these cars, buying and selling multi million dollar historically significant vehicles but are just hanging out in a ripped up pair of jeans. True car guy just like the rest of us but on a much larger financial scale.
I understand where you're coming from here, but my suspicion is that they're most likely designer Jeans that came with rips in the first place. Not trying to say he isn't a car guy, just saying that I doubt those rips came from getting his hands dirty and wrenching..
"I never got a phone call from you" - And would you imagine that? Totally deflecting the fact that phones work both ways...They wanted your deal to fail John so they could take the other one, but were too spineless to just tell you. Total negotiation and operation in bad faith on their end. I'd be naming and shaming that dealer, so hats off to you for being bigger than that.
I saw this car parked in the center of Luxembourg a few months back ! It was parked in such a tight spot between cars i even wondered how the guy got out of the car! It did have the big SV stickers in the quarter panel and the giant wing! I remeber thinking that a guy that parks a Murcielago like i would park a citroen c1.... has to be doing very well in life! Sorry your deal fell through... but these people are "special" as hell! Imagine dealing with them on a daily bassis.....!!!!
1) Scissor doors open upward, not outward. Makes parking tight between cars MUCH easier. 2) The cars probably parked AFTER the Lambo, boxing it in, as no one with a lambo wants a door banging into their car.
John you did not close the deal as stated in contract. As a business man you know this. Closing the deal does not mean texting a screen shot that the money is sent on the contract expire date. Like the lady said you should have called her earlier in the week if you knew the contract would not be closed in time. You always twist the story to seem it was always the other person's fault while trying to sound sincere and genuine. Good on the lady for selling the car for the higher price and sticking to her word.
I agree, by not completing on time he gave her a backdoor out of the deal. Also I don't know about US but if I send an international transfer, once I instruct the bank the money is out of my account I can no longer cancel the transfer. Perhaps it's possible in the US 🤷♂
Yes, this car was on Oahu years back. The owner would drive it to Ala Moana and drink all night at the bars on the forth floor. At the end of his evening, he and his new chicks he met would catch a taxi home together and he'd have his guy watch over the car through the night: he had personal security for his Lamborghini. I was a bartender and remember he was very nice to everyone around and tipped generously. That was almost 10 years ago.
Really admire your passion and professionalism, John. Though we hate that this incident happened, your followers appreciate the transparency. Not all people can tell a disappointing story while still showing compassion to the new owner and the person you originally had the deal with. 👏👏👏
Hi John. Italian here. I could reach to an Sv, to a 400miles lp640 e-gear, and to a manual lp 640 in a couple of hours from home. You should consider a business trip to northern Italy sometimes soon. Checkbook might come in handy. I can show you around anytime.
Glad you came away financially intact. Thanks for sharing the good and the bad on this channel; it's what keep me coming back. Appreciate the class and respect you put forward to someone who tried to blame you for their shady business practices.
I do not blame you for being upset and disappointed. I find that people who I deal with, as an agent, will often shun a new higher offer, because they have given their word. Unfortunately, you were not dealing with someone of the same integrity. An old Luxemburg cow. You are coming across as particularly chilled, well done.
I don't know how to describe Timati for eng speaking audience. He is development magnate son, was started in a show for signers, than crated label and produced some local stars, had some top songs in russian music scene, made some kind of a brand, made most disliked music clip in all of youtube (n2 after google last every year video over all videos), left his brand corp and now making pop songs. Very complicated person.
Great Story with a sad ending John... I will keep my eye out for this SV in Toronto this summer. On the upside, your 2 boys are absolutely gorgeous! My best always to You and Senja, L.J. and J. ❤🙏🙏🙏🙏🐕❤
How this channel doesn't have more views and followers I just don't understand. Top tier content and genuine car stories from a truly passionate and knowledgeable person. One of my favorite places to come!
2 things that I see wrong; 1st come 1st served-you missed a deadline, it’s just business and if you were emotionally invested why didn’t you just jump on a flight and “secure” the deal personally??? The Canadian flew in and paid up after your contract expired.
Are you filming from the office at Lopez motors. Just kidding of course. I could not resist the movie reference. I represented a client in a similar situation and thankfully we prevailed when we sought specific performance.
Wonder if this gentleman from Canada happened to be Damon from DDE. They have been talking about doing exactly this (buying an SV from Europe because the market is much cheaper) and I wouldn't put it passed them to be the type to fly to Europe just to weasel into a deal.
WOW ... i. cant believe that you would send that amount of money without having the car looked at and inspected . Thats a no no for sure . when it comes to money trust nobody period . I am glad you got the money back ..... things happen for a reason .
John showed incredible restraint in this scenario. Not sure I would have been able to keep my cool here. So much so that I might have found the first flight out to Luxembourg and dealt with the issue Miami style. Sheesh
Hey John…great story and such a shame the SV deal never came off…you never know it may yet happen in the future. Sure you likely now know that your editor forgot to apply LUTs to colour grade a couple of your clips but didn’t ruin the story. Keep up the great work ethic, wry cool procurement stories. 😊
Its not clear from the video. Did contract stipulate funds “sent” by a certain date or funds “received”? That would determine who was in the right contractually. Obviously the seller was in the wrong in the spirit of the deal.
This story sounds a lot like my first Lamborghini purchase years ago. The sellers started out being very nice, open & honest but soon things changed for the worse. It turned out the car was owned by 3 siblings who couldn’t agree on anything. I’m amazed they managed to even buy a car between them then I learned they inherited the car from their dad & its was just one small part of a very large estate their dad had left them. He should’ve left everything to charity because his kids were the most horribly spoiled,ungrateful sh1ts ever to have drawn breath.
John: You know me as a friend of your dad. My first name is Jack and I was a wholesaler in PBG for many years. Rented a garage for my E-Type from your dad. Did a lot of deals with Dad. Love your site, follow it closely. SHAME ON YOU...The Murci was a great deal and very rare...YOU should have hopped on a plane and sealed the deal in person...YOU would have been in CONTROL...Still have the same phone number, call if you care to.
One of the reasons I work in Luxembourg but live in Germany is the business environment. I've seen this car a few times and wondered about the colour. If in the future you need anything checked out in either country, PM me.
Business in Europe is very different vs business in US. Dates, times and $ talk are concrete and have no room for wiggle. But negotiations are extremely normal. But once it's set, it's set! Sorry you had that experience.
Nobody did anything wrong, they just wanted more money and saw the opportunity to make more. Unfortunately they were in a rush and did not even negotiate with John, maybe they wanted to avoid an awkward conversation. The real question is who is this person who magically makes a bid from Canada all of a sudden? It beg's the question if someone else found out about this deal in your circle and then reached out to this person and bought it under your feet.
That is why I trust nobody in car deals. Too many crooks and shysters out there. At least you got your money back but still had cost in your time and effort to get as far as it went.
Honestly, what a grimy seller. Understand getting a better deal, but the way the blew off your contract honestly pisses me off so I can only imagine how you must feel
as an established company i wouldn't call it excessively litigious to make an attempt to get them to follow the contract, if stuff like this is never enforced it will keep happening and less powerful individuals will be the ones that get taken advantage of the most. also the idea of excessive litigation is a misconception - Adam Ruins Everything - The Truth About the McDonald's Coffee Lawsuit
Wow, great story! Sorry it didn't worked out... like you said, it wasn't meant to be. (probably the first time I heard John swore on the channel....hahaha)
That mother and son clearly unethical..thats it. They cant just sell it to someone else even for a higher price when they already made a legal deal with you, specially with all the difficulties they gave.
I had this happen with a Mazda 323 GTX. It is disgusting behavior because it’s dishonesty on behalf of the seller to not even give the first buyer a chance to match the bid of the second buyer. Shame. Story well told.
I was working for a financial institution and I got into this kind of no reason change at the last minute with similaire off reaction like it's our fault for delays that are knowned and standard for different types of transactions
You could just use XRP and settle money in seconds for cheap when buying overseas. Could even use smart contrats and eliminate problems with your own purchase contracts.
All good deal amongst like minded people whether they are car guys or not. Always start with a leap of 'GOOD FAITH"! These sellers were strictly about a cash cow! And you stood tall!!! Congratulations. Karma will find them. And you'll still get your car on the next go-round. Now why does this sound so much like Ed's Amer/Spec deal?
This makes my blood 🩸 boil. Anyways glad you at least got your money 💰 back. I love this stories 📚 they are such eye 👁 openers and really makes you wonder 💭 what the world 🌎 has come to these days. People can be dirty
Thats not true that it was a high price for europe. It was listed for only 350k€ and normal SV are listed for 500-700k€ at the moment in europe. Greets from germany ;)
I love how John shares even his failed pursuits. It highlights the competitive spirit between sellers and rival buyers and makes his successes feel a little more special.
Please not repaint the car keep original
You told this story with amazing self control!! I did all the cussing for you! I knew she sold it for more money!! I called her every name in the book for you!!
They absolutely should be sued for breach of contract. People like that will continue to screw people until someone holds them accountable.
Unlucky this time around. In business this actually sounds like a fairly low cost lesson that’ll really serve you well going forward. Love the channel. Better luck next time…
I love the fact that you are dropping all of this incredible history of these cars, buying and selling multi million dollar historically significant vehicles but are just hanging out in a ripped up pair of jeans. True car guy just like the rest of us but on a much larger financial scale.
I understand where you're coming from here, but my suspicion is that they're most likely designer Jeans that came with rips in the first place. Not trying to say he isn't a car guy, just saying that I doubt those rips came from getting his hands dirty and wrenching..
Yeah, you understand that those aren’t holes put there by hard work…..
He's wearing a 30k watch lol
@@lawnmowa1 ikr, people are naive.. this guys jeans aren't levi's
This channel is CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED!
"I never got a phone call from you" - And would you imagine that? Totally deflecting the fact that phones work both ways...They wanted your deal to fail John so they could take the other one, but were too spineless to just tell you. Total negotiation and operation in bad faith on their end. I'd be naming and shaming that dealer, so hats off to you for being bigger than that.
Yep 100% this.
I saw this car parked in the center of Luxembourg a few months back ! It was parked in such a tight spot between cars i even wondered how the guy got out of the car! It did have the big SV stickers in the quarter panel and the giant wing! I remeber thinking that a guy that parks a Murcielago like i would park a citroen c1.... has to be doing very well in life! Sorry your deal fell through... but these people are "special" as hell! Imagine dealing with them on a daily bassis.....!!!!
Actually the owner lives in the town next to mine, they are quite infamous in the area... That car sounded nice though
1) Scissor doors open upward, not outward. Makes parking tight between cars MUCH easier. 2) The cars probably parked AFTER the Lambo, boxing it in, as no one with a lambo wants a door banging into their car.
John, your knowledge of the industry & unmatched story telling skill leave us constantly wanting more. What a phenomenal channel.
John you did not close the deal as stated in contract. As a business man you know this. Closing the deal does not mean texting a screen shot that the money is sent on the contract expire date. Like the lady said you should have called her earlier in the week if you knew the contract would not be closed in time. You always twist the story to seem it was always the other person's fault while trying to sound sincere and genuine. Good on the lady for selling the car for the higher price and sticking to her word.
I agree, by not completing on time he gave her a backdoor out of the deal. Also I don't know about US but if I send an international transfer, once I instruct the bank the money is out of my account I can no longer cancel the transfer. Perhaps it's possible in the US 🤷♂
“Untrustworthy people”
There it is right there.
Yes, this car was on Oahu years back.
The owner would drive it to Ala Moana and drink all night at the bars on the forth floor.
At the end of his evening, he and his new chicks he met would catch a taxi home together and he'd have his guy watch over the car through the night: he had personal security for his Lamborghini.
I was a bartender and remember he was very nice to everyone around and tipped generously. That was almost 10 years ago.
Really admire your passion and professionalism, John. Though we hate that this incident happened, your followers appreciate the transparency. Not all people can tell a disappointing story while still showing compassion to the new owner and the person you originally had the deal with. 👏👏👏
15:37
It feels like you really wanted to say "I'm not going to sue them ... but I'll break their fucking legs though"
Fr🤣
this guy has probably never been in a fight in his life
@@otallono He probably has a dear friend that just happened to be in this line of work. He's in Miami after all.
Who knew that Tyler Hoover's mom lives in Luxembourg?
Ya know, I have a feeling something better will come along. You said it best, shit happens for a reason👍
Hi John. Italian here. I could reach to an Sv, to a 400miles lp640 e-gear, and to a manual lp 640 in a couple of hours from home. You should consider a business trip to northern Italy sometimes soon. Checkbook might come in handy. I can show you around anytime.
Glad you came away financially intact. Thanks for sharing the good and the bad on this channel; it's what keep me coming back. Appreciate the class and respect you put forward to someone who tried to blame you for their shady business practices.
I do not blame you for being upset and disappointed. I find that people who I deal with, as an agent, will often shun a new higher offer, because they have given their word. Unfortunately, you were not dealing with someone of the same integrity. An old Luxemburg cow. You are coming across as particularly chilled, well done.
I don't know how to describe Timati for eng speaking audience. He is development magnate son, was started in a show for signers, than crated label and produced some local stars, had some top songs in russian music scene, made some kind of a brand, made most disliked music clip in all of youtube (n2 after google last every year video over all videos), left his brand corp and now making pop songs. Very complicated person.
The song with Eve was good, to be fair....
John, get the white Murcie SV at Alain Class in Dubai and bring it to the US. The price is right.
This feels like talking with a car buddy, love it. Keep up the great content 🤙🏻
You're a great guy John .. full respect 🏆
People suck… lesson learned JT. No more handshake and your word. Those days are gone.
Great Story with a sad ending John... I will keep my eye out for this SV in Toronto this summer. On the upside, your 2 boys are absolutely gorgeous!
My best always to You and Senja, L.J. and J.
❤🙏🙏🙏🙏🐕❤
514
Always enjoy your content John. Keep your unique style!
Hi John, remember Phil Collins „Against all ods”? Fits the story 100% !! Take care and cannot wait for another episode.
That was one of my all time favorite movies back in the day! Cool reference.
Next time give me a shout, I live 10 minutes away from Labo Luxembourg
Some of the rich older Europeans are stiff as a stone and a pain in the “back” to deal with.
I’m so sorry to hear about this
The worst part of cars....buying and selling.
This car belonged to my neighbor in Hawaii back in 2009. He was one of the first and to get it in the US. They also had a LP640 that was in Rossovic.
He had the car for over a year.
@@cliffton86 So cool!
Why not spend 1 person out there for 7 days to make sure everything is on the UP and UP? Any deal over $100,000 needs to be a face to face ordeal. 🧐
How this channel doesn't have more views and followers I just don't understand. Top tier content and genuine car stories from a truly passionate and knowledgeable person. One of my favorite places to come!
Id sue for violating the contract. Punish them for backtracking on the deal
Unbelievably great story, I can feel how frustrated and annoying that deal would be if I was in the shoes of trying to purchase that car.
In Australia we call that a dogs act... aka going back on ur word or deal you have agreed to but the other party dont follow through on the deal
Incredible story teller!! I love to hear the detail of the entire situation and it’s Awesome Content!!! Keep it up John!
This guys passion for doing these cars proper justice is so great .
2 things that I see wrong; 1st come 1st served-you missed a deadline, it’s just business and if you were emotionally invested why didn’t you just jump on a flight and “secure” the deal personally??? The Canadian flew in and paid up after your contract expired.
I also think the offer was maybe a lowball one to begin with and the sellers simply got a better deal elswhere.
I know how tough it is when emotions come into play. You'll end up owning it one day. Great Story!
man i enjoy your videos a lot!!
You’re too nice. Most people would dox them on every possible platform.
I’m already looking up Tractor companies in Luxenburg… Rocko and Tony are on it…
The whole time I thought John was going to say the car was painted red and Ed bought it from under him
I would have been there in person or a trusted person to make sure the car was at the dealership etc
Funny how she says that's not how they do business.... She showed how they do business. Shysters.
Are you filming from the office at Lopez motors. Just kidding of course. I could not resist the movie reference. I represented a client in a similar situation and thankfully we prevailed when we sought specific performance.
Everybody calls me Frank!
I swear this video was recommended to me because I listened to 'welcome to saint Tropez' a bazillion times.
'Pull up to a club in a white Murcielago' great line from 'Welcome to St. Tropez'
Wonder if this gentleman from Canada happened to be Damon from DDE. They have been talking about doing exactly this (buying an SV from Europe because the market is much cheaper) and I wouldn't put it passed them to be the type to fly to Europe just to weasel into a deal.
Yes, it was me. Love you John. We’ll do a part 2 when I’m in your hood. ❤️
Yellow Diablo SV from Canada… Wonder if that is DDE’s car they purchased a little while back. They said they got a deal on it!
WOW ... i. cant believe that you would send that amount of money without having the car looked at and inspected . Thats a no no for sure . when it comes to money trust nobody period . I am glad you got the money back ..... things happen for a reason .
"Bumpers needed to be fixed", no need to 'fix' the bumpers when adding back the US spec ones with the ugly reflectors would look worse
John showed incredible restraint in this scenario. Not sure I would have been able to keep my cool here. So much so that I might have found the first flight out to Luxembourg and dealt with the issue Miami style. Sheesh
Hey John…great story and such a shame the SV deal never came off…you never know it may yet happen in the future.
Sure you likely now know that your editor forgot to apply LUTs to colour grade a couple of your clips but didn’t ruin the story.
Keep up the great work ethic, wry cool procurement stories. 😊
Its not clear from the video. Did contract stipulate funds “sent” by a certain date or funds “received”?
That would determine who was in the right contractually. Obviously the seller was in the wrong in the spirit of the deal.
I see John saying "he was really confused" what I'm hearing is John saying is "he was really pissed"
Can't imagine John losing his temper
This story sounds a lot like my first Lamborghini purchase years ago. The sellers started out being very nice, open & honest but soon things changed for the worse. It turned out the car was owned by 3 siblings who couldn’t agree on anything. I’m amazed they managed to even buy a car between them then I learned they inherited the car from their dad & its was just one small part of a very large estate their dad had left them. He should’ve left everything to charity because his kids were the most horribly spoiled,ungrateful sh1ts ever to have drawn breath.
John: You know me as a friend of your dad. My first name is Jack and I was a wholesaler in PBG for many years. Rented a garage for my E-Type from your dad. Did a lot of deals with Dad. Love your site, follow it closely. SHAME ON YOU...The Murci was a great deal and very rare...YOU should have hopped on a plane and sealed the deal in person...YOU would have been in CONTROL...Still have the same phone number, call if you care to.
One of the reasons I work in Luxembourg but live in Germany is the business environment. I've seen this car a few times and wondered about the colour. If in the future you need anything checked out in either country, PM me.
This was my favorite story yet!
New bumpers? Maybe after they fixed the damage from that unreported fender bender?🤔 That Canadian buyer may have few issues to deal with!
Yep, this is the risk you take buying from strangers across the world with their own morals, ethics, and way of doing things.
Business in Europe is very different vs business in US. Dates, times and $ talk are concrete and have no room for wiggle. But negotiations are extremely normal. But once it's set, it's set! Sorry you had that experience.
Nobody did anything wrong, they just wanted more money and saw the opportunity to make more. Unfortunately they were in a rush and did not even negotiate with John, maybe they wanted to avoid an awkward conversation. The real question is who is this person who magically makes a bid from Canada all of a sudden? It beg's the question if someone else found out about this deal in your circle and then reached out to this person and bought it under your feet.
You will find another and good on you for being so gracious JT. MC
You should’ve just flew there and handled it face to face- i fly to Europe for cars often. I never just send money by wire to random sellers lol 😂
I have to agree, or have a trusted representative go see them in your place.
@@eddiebaker3267 he lost that deal fair and square. He should’ve known better or really didn’t want the car to begin with.
Exactly, who spends hundreds of thousands on a questionable car without spending $2K on a plane fare and boarding.
So people are not trustworthy.
That is why I trust nobody in car deals. Too many crooks and shysters out there. At least you got your money back but still had cost in your time and effort to get as far as it went.
In that song he drove a White Audi R8 V8 too… As crazy as it sounds sometimes you just have to do it in person, but that does suck bro
Honestly, what a grimy seller. Understand getting a better deal, but the way the blew off your contract honestly pisses me off so I can only imagine how you must feel
sorry to hear. if its not meant to be i guess can't force it. another one will come along.
as an established company i wouldn't call it excessively litigious to make an attempt to get them to follow the contract, if stuff like this is never enforced it will keep happening and less powerful individuals will be the ones that get taken advantage of the most. also the idea of excessive litigation is a misconception - Adam Ruins Everything - The Truth About the McDonald's Coffee Lawsuit
Agree, if there is a contract, there should be legal action if any part breaks the agreement.
It's a shame that you didn't get this Murcielago SV, would have been a nice project i think😕
Wow, great story! Sorry it didn't worked out... like you said, it wasn't meant to be. (probably the first time I heard John swore on the channel....hahaha)
That mother and son clearly unethical..thats it. They cant just sell it to someone else even for a higher price when they already made a legal deal with you, specially with all the difficulties they gave.
I had this happen with a Mazda 323 GTX. It is disgusting behavior because it’s dishonesty on behalf of the seller to not even give the first buyer a chance to match the bid of the second buyer. Shame. Story well told.
Hope it wasn’t DDE! I’m sure it will work it’s way around to you eventually 👌
DDE?
I bet it was.
@@Juan_Of_God daily driven exotics
Something tells me it was lmao
sr auto group or august luxury motorcars
I was working for a financial institution and I got into this kind of no reason change at the last minute with similaire off reaction like it's our fault for delays that are knowned and standard for different types of transactions
You could just use XRP and settle money in seconds for cheap when buying overseas. Could even use smart contrats and eliminate problems with your own purchase contracts.
All good deal amongst like minded people whether they are car guys or not. Always start with a leap of 'GOOD FAITH"! These sellers were strictly about a cash cow! And you stood tall!!! Congratulations. Karma will find them. And you'll still get your car on the next go-round.
Now why does this sound so much like Ed's Amer/Spec deal?
What a great attitude!
This makes my blood 🩸 boil. Anyways glad you at least got your money 💰 back.
I love this stories 📚 they are such eye 👁 openers and really makes you wonder 💭 what the world 🌎 has come to these days. People can be dirty
Isn’t this the SV DDE spoke about they were gonna go on a European tour for?
There is a gap in the color correction at 9:14. As a video editor it popped out at me. Not a huge deal. It happens. Just wanted to mention.
Great video & story John
Damn. You win some, you lose some. Very similar colour to the iconic Al-Thani SV
Moral of the story is pay on time to avoid disappointment.
Alain Class Motors has a white Murciélago SV for sale, but they might be asking too much, IDK
Put me in couch!!! Next time fly me in I’ll close for you !!!!
Thats not true that it was a high price for europe. It was listed for only 350k€ and normal SV are listed for 500-700k€ at the moment in europe. Greets from germany ;)
DDE bought it, Damon did say a rare Lamborghini is coming to his channel
Why not ensure funds were transferred as par agreement?!
Very entertaining story. Sorry you got screwed. You will find a better SV.
Great story telling on this one....
Is this the one that is being converted to a gated manual at EAG USA? I`m pretty sure it is....
Lol was it Raymond at August Motors who bought the SV?
Could have been Uncle Ray from SR Auto Group or August Luxury Motor Cars or even OB prestige
Nices way ever to tell a bad deal story.
The way you the video ended is just crazy fun 😂
And next time, don’t buy a car to anyone who speaks French 😂