"Come on, its not rocket science!" "Rocket science is really easy actually. Compared to neuroscience." "It's not neuroscience, then." "Neuroscience pales in comparison to neural link technology." "God dammit-"
The Halo neural interface is indeed quite the underrated and underutilized technology. And it has the potential to be among the greatest gifts to Humanity and/or one of the greatest curses. It will be of great intrigue how the tech develops, proliferates, and is managed. Both in Halo and IRL. Also yeah, Master Chief is basically Helios ending JC Denton.
it even enables a lot of vehicle based options that wouldn't be practical without it, take the scorpion tank for example, a lone crewman with a neural chip can effectively do the jobs of a minimum 3 unaugment crewmen, that being the drive, gunner and commander simultaneously, likely by incorporating interactions with their optical nerves to guide the tanks cannon, similar to how modern helicopter gunships track the head of the gunner to guide it's autocannon, but instead of a complex helmet and sensor system to track the target it uses a cheaper algorithm and computer that is fed data straight from the neural chip
canonically their hearts would practically explode and the blood vessels in their brain would hemorrhage in under an hour of taking their cocktail, imagine it from their perspective, spartans are assaulting your base, you can hear the gunfire and heavy footsteps of the spartans down the hall, you know for a fact you're as good as dead so you take the cocktail sealing your fate just to have even the slimmest chance at winning the coming fight
that's just regular doping, it really isn't all that different than naughtsee Germany and the Finnish giving their soldiers meth to fight for days on end
@@elijahaitaok8624a. It mostly wasnt military supplied it was generally sent from home. Meth chocolate wasnt uncommon or hard to get at the time and plenty of us soldiers used it aswell. Its worth noting meth wasnt seen as a drug back then it was an over the counter medicine same with cocaine
@@elijahaitaok8624yes and no, meth was used to keep them alert and curb appetite since supply lines were so far degraded by that point in the war. Right tool for the right job and all that, I imagine the UNSC and rebels would have something far more advanced and specifically targeted, maybe something involving adrenaline and vasopressin or another neurotransmitter involved in aggressive behavior and reaction time.
This kinda explains why you hear the covenant speak English in the core Halo games, it's automatically translated to those with a neural implant. In Reach, I guess Spartan III's didn't have that "patch".
To be fair, Cortana's codex on the covie language didn't get uploaded to the whole of the UNSC Defense Forces until the Chief came back from Alpha Halo . . .
The "manipulate the world around you" can be seen in H4, where the Ur-Didact dissolves the wall chief is hiding behind. Forerunners had neural interfaces too.
For security purposes I imagine neural interfaces have a sort of mechanical 'kill switch' of sorts. Something that you can physically manipulate in the chip itself that essentially STOPS the communication between brain and chip, likely only accessible by the same procedure that was done to install the chips in the first place so your average joe can't just grab a paperclip and slide it under the skin to reach the "reset button" so to speak. Having these switched off is likely standard procedure for people leaving UNSC military service for precisely the reasons you've stated in regards to what sort of nefarious purposes these things could be used for. As for the civilian market? I'm...Not sure. I'd wager there would be laws regarding the usage of neural interfaces to the point they might not even be ALLOWED in civilian hands. We've seen such draconian measures in the UNSC before with freedom of the press and the like with the Hunt the Truth campaign so perhaps neural interface technology is solely held by the UNSC and the UNSC alone.
true but i suspect that certain military manufacturers like misriah armory have certain high placed engineers and managers, might even be a ceo that have the implants in order too be more efficient and productive, it might even be that high placed doctors and proffesors also might have them, not Halsey as far as i know because she was "old fashioned" by writting most things in a diary but she could still have one, and the benefit for them is to be able to have discussions on theory's or having someone to help you if you encountered a problem and need a fresh set of eyes, or making sure some plans of yours are getting to the right person or to simply exchange ideas with, in the case of medical doctors they might be able to call for an expert in a medical emergency or too be able to collect the patients medical history or during a surgery and something goes wrong they can have an emergency consultaion with another doctor and correct anything on the fly. So indeed not everybody in civilian live might have one but i do see the merrits of certain civillian people of having one.
I would imagine it's literally just a switch that disconnects the computer aspect of the chip from the neural wiring harness in the brain, or if someone retires from service they simply remove the computer part from the skull entirely and it also wouldn't surprise me if the UNSC would reclaim the neural hardware upon the death of the retired serviceman since I can't imagine it's all that cheap to produce
Just like any tech out today, it can and would be hacked. If an individual has one, even if shut off after service, there will be someone who can turn it back on if the person wanted it on. Heck there are even rogue AI's that could prob do the job.
So in theory, former Marines that join the Insurgency could see Marines and ODST’s coming (and vice versa) sort of like a Call of Duty Minimap? Would be good for Insurrectionists to ambush Marines or use it as an early warning system. Afterall the neural net isn’t deactivated if a Marine turns traitor and having the neural interface already means they can decode the UNSC IFF? I guess they could be remotely deactivated but if a marine turns traitor on one side of the galaxy, how is ONI or UNSC going to know which Marines have switched sides? Big Army nowadays doesn’t instantly know the location of each and every solider on earth let alone across galaxy.
I loved this theory so much, it tickled my scientific curiosity. Remember when there was leaks about Robot spartans? What if those are the brains of fallen soldiers who are given a second chance to serve the UNSC and her colonies
I thought this video was going to be about Project JAVELIN, the fact that cybernetic prosthetics can be tuned to match Spartan level strength, or whoever the "superhuman stalkers, killers, and assassins" are that are mentioned in the GRD helmet description that apparently required the helmet to be tuned *down* for use by Spartans. Learning more about neural interfaces is cool though.
What are your thoughts on the lore from one of the newer helmets in Halo Infinite, which mentions what are apparently *Banished supersoldiers* being made on Venezia?
I've not seen any material indicating "instant learning" capability for the UNSC Neural Interface; I don't think that neuronal remapping is within the capabilities of the device. Information storage and retrieval to/from an onboard hard drive? Plenty even in the first few books. And that would be a _game changer._ Still, even without instant learning, the NI is awesome and I'm glad you've given it some love!
I see this video as more of a theoretical conversation. Obviously, UNSC is still early phases of the interface since we have not seen most of the abilities discussed here. However, with time the groundwork is there for amazing abilities.
This video reminds me of a concept that doesn't get used enough in sci fi where technology and neural implants are so advanced that people who are able to harness is basically become techno mages and the line between technology and magic is blurred
“The Machine God” Ave Omnissiah! Ave Mechanicus! Also the last third of the video is pretty much the gist of a net runner from Cyberpunk. Love the video! ❤
Yeah, this sounds like something pivotal and transformative, but not as iconic as the Spartan stuff, so it naturally would get overlooked. It also makes sense: it's the future! We don't always think about how utterly insane the internet is, much less use it to it's full potential. We're used to it. We'd get used to these implants, too.
The whole concept of uploading knowledge directly into the human brain reminds me of an old 1960s Spy series called Joe 90. In that, a nine year old kid (Joe) was routinely being ‘programmed’ with expert knowledge and experience to enable him to undertake all manner of undercover and dangerous missions.
To take it a step further, why not take an AI give them an artificial body but with a bit more internal power to run in production with the Spartan armor but drastically increased shield performance would be one thing I would hope for Take for instant Kat she had a robotic arm that was very plain. Why not add more power to the arm to supplement her shields? Add an additional computing power or an alternate AI?
nice to see someone make a video on the same general idea i came to regarding neural implants back in 2014-15ish, this was back when i was finishing my read of the forerunner trilogy of books and i just started reading contact harvest while also starting my deep dive into halo lore n shit.
Only thought I have is the encrypted key is potentially crackable, assuming we are talking photonics or Quantum level of computing. Assume we have all the functions of the best phones mashed into a device in your head which is dope. But it’s crackable.
I still say that the UNSC's greatest strength is their ability to regenerate and reconstitute their forces. Their ability to heal their soldier from what is guaranteed death in our world from just about anywhere is amazing. This also is amazing for generation as you can regain strength faster to be able to train and fight more. If the Covenant wasn't so OP we would see the UNSC as the power house they are.
The neral interface also turned out to be a weak spot for malicious AI to invade, like Iratuse. Although an opening for the invasion was done on purpose as bait to get Iratuse out of a space ships systems as a desperate means of escape. I’m also reminded of Cyber Punk 2077, where every Cyberdeck user can make a crippling weakness out of neral interfaces with just a few quick hacks. I’m sure the UNSC perfected the security of standard issue neral links so that it wouldn’t become an obvious weakness to insurgent hackers, but I have to wonder if there’d ever be an event extreme enough to take the neral links off the mandatory implant list. Halo isn’t that kind of universe that would make a plot point out of this of course. There’s nothing like Magneto from X Men yanking on the implants for free insta kills or Super hacking factions like from Battle Star Galactica that outright requires your computers to have no networking at all. Would the Battle Stars from that series beat Master Chief and Cortana with a single quick hack?
We know any tech made today will get hacked. It has been proven over and over. No reason to think that can't happen in the future in the Halo universe. There are even Rogue AIs who could do the trick.
Wait, communicating in your head! In halo 4, the Didact communicated in master chief’s head, and Cortana couldn’t hear the Didact, it was in the pelican mission, I think this goes way deeper than you think!
What you pointed out in this video is why I'm excited and terrified by Elon's Neuralink project. The benefits and harm this project would do to humanity would be great and we may see a glimpse of what it can do in our lifetime.
If Neuralink is anything like his other ventures, I'd be surprised if it ever gets beyond the 'killing-a-load-of-monkies' phase. I'm sure the tech in some form is an eventuality but I doubt he'll be the one to usher it in.
Do yourself a favor and dont be excited for his thing. The amount of animals that have died for that (1500, including primates) with horrific side-effects should be enough to put anyone off. Obviously in the future of Halo they found a way to poke around inside the by far most sensitive part of the body and somehow not having a metal-plug overheating the brain (which you know dont react well to single-digit changes) just by being out in the sun
@@SuperAerieI'd wager over the next 100 years the best we get is 100gigs extra capacity and some jackasses charging us for WiFi and mandatory commercials for life as best case.
@@SuperAerie Yes its sad but millions more animals die from being eaten so what is your point? Eventually Earth will face existential threats where we would need to utilize certain technologies. Self preservation of humans comes before our emotion for other species. Don’t lose the plot.
@@SuperAerie You realize that's what animal testing is for right? Do you not know how many drugs and devices are tested on animals first? Its practically all of them... What would you rather humans be the ones to test them first? As with everything weve created the first iteration is never that good but it will improve overtime.
So in theory, former Marines that join the Insurgency could see Marines and ODST’s coming (and vice versa) sort of like a Call of Duty Minimap? Would be good for Insurrectionists to ambush Marines or use it as an early warning system. Afterall the neural net isn’t deactivated if a Marine turns traitor and having the neural interface already means they can decode the UNSC IFF? I guess they could be remotely deactivated but if a marine turns traitor on one side of the galaxy, how is ONI or UNSC going to know which Marines have switched sides? Big Army nowadays doesn’t instantly know the location of each and every solider on earth let alone across galaxy.
Maybe could even control your own thoughts completely, like if you want to forget something just have the implant delete it from your mind, if you want to remember something have the implant give you perfect recall of that thing. Feeling pain, turn off the sensation of pain. Want to be happy? make yourself happy, wanna sleep? make yourself sleep. More productive? More excited? less angry? It would be complete and total control over your own thoughts and thus actions. This isn't even getting into the potential psychosomatic and psychobiological like placebo effects. 😮
When we speak our brain activates the muscles in our throat. This is called a voicebox or larynx. If they can comunicate telepathically this bypasses their voicebox. The only way they would be able telepathically transmit their voice is if the person they are talking to saves a copy of their voice into a computer, or saves a copy on the host computer then transmitts the file to the other person before talking. Similar to how OCR software works. Humans have this now, if we know someone well enough, we can read text messages in their voice, like if they were talking to us. The only downside we loose emotion behind the text message.
Kinda funny/ironic, that the Neural Interface is pretty similar to what you would see in a Cyberpunk setting. Which make you wonder if the covenant have something similar to this? Or perhaps the Covenant didn't have something similar that allowed them to either interface with Human networks or other means of communication that aren't necessarily "standard". Which creates a sort of interesting thought that the Cole Protocol probably wasn't even needed. That even IF the Covenant were able to get their hands on say a human data-core that they would BARELY know how to interface with it, or get any answers FROM it.
Just because something can interface with your brain doesn't mean you can learn things instantaneously. Learning is a unique process for every brain and requires repeat practice to form new neuronal connections specific to you. Just downloading data through conductors does not even come close to explaining the intricate process of learning that would yield usable motor skills or knowledge available to be connected to other concepts.
In Halo 2 when Johnson and Miranda are getting the activation index, Johnson's battle rifle unholsters from his back just before he gets attacked the Arbiter. I'd assume that just by thinking about unholstering the weapon a UNSC Marine's magnetic back holster will raise the weapon up and allow the Marine to grab it?
Could maybe even control your own thoughts completely, like if you want to forget something just have the implant delete it from your mind, if you want to remember something have the implant give you perfect recall of that thing. Feeling pain, turn off the sensation of pain. Want to be happy? make yourself happy, wanna sleep? make yourself sleep. More productive? More excited? less angry? It would be complete and total control over your own thoughts and thus actions. This isn't even getting into the potential psychosomatic and psychobiological effects like placebos. 😮
They wouldn't be the Machine God, there is only one Machine God and he is beyond what we would even consider human. Blessed are his devout followers and those who submit to the will of the Omnissiah
Plot twist: The Omnissiah buried deep beneath the Martian surface is actually Noble VI in his cave. He's been awaiting. Learning. Transcending. From the moment he understood the weakness of his flesh, he was disgusted by it...
Something I didn't hear you touch on is external storage. By storing information on a hard drive outside your brain it becomes trivial to be a renascence man. Need to remember Pi to 600 digit's? Thousands of meme references, some of which have been dead longer than you've been alive? the complete classics? Further: offloading skills in the same way you do with games in your steam library.
So interesting concept from the book series Hyperion that could apply to this topic where AI uses human neural space is used to store AI systems forcing AI to keep in a perpetual parasitic relationship between humans and AI
The speech and hearing interface part would make sense we can almost do that already, we have tech small enough that it is potentially possible to implant it.
Loved the video, I feel like the neural interfaces are a pretty cool aspect of the lore that hasn't really been explored before. Only thing is, you said "recipitent" a few times, but the word is recipient. Only one T, at the end.
A few of the ideas you talk about here are present in the Hyperion novels, which I highly recommend you go read if you haven't. In fact in the beginning of the video, I instantly agreed with you when you said it was the neural interface that makes people superhumans.
Wow, who knew how much cyberpunk Halo was. ... And we might be able to have a Warhammer dreadnought, but better because Halos far much more cleaner than Warhammer is.
What is crazy is that Elons Nureolink is approved for human testing.. Remember Elon exists in the Halo universe, never know in some future books he might be the one who developed the earliest version 😂
It was bound to happen with how high Bungie's cash burn-through rate is, especially as of late. Management really did it in a rude way though. Don't want most of the Bungie devs that were laid off to get hired by 343i though, since most were just HR and marketing and accounting and art and finances and such. Specifically finances and HR and so on, those people just gum up gaming companies and make products worse looking at them as a whole. I also think everyone acting like this is the end of the world is overreacting, tech lay-offs have been going on for this whole year and assuming it wouldn't hit the whole of the AAA gaming industry was delusional.
@@theAverageJoe25 You said it yourself, it would be good to get him back to compose some musical pieces for Halo again. But he's an exception to the vast majority of the people laid off who would either have no positive impact or have a downright negative impact on 343. Halo is still in a really shaky spot right now. Season 5 was a good step forward, but 343 has a decade of self-inflicted leaping backwards that they're working against. No need to make that harder by hiring on a bunch of people who never touched Destiny 1, let alone Halo just because they worked under a company that wears Bungie on its name tag. The Bungie behind Destiny 2 is about as good as 343 Industries was before this short period of Pierre Heintze's leadership, they just didn't have a legendary IP that was a beacon of the golden age of gaming to tarnish with poor choices regarding story and art and gameplay and monetization, just a new one IP. And that new one has nearly caught Bungie on fire several times over recent years due to horrible choices that I've watched and experienced in real time. Destiny 2 is more of a casino than a game trying to give you a good time to have fun in.
_Forever War_ has the protagonist become a Lt to a Field Marshall in the span of 24 hours via this kind of computer aided matrix style of training upload. He also undergoes a ender's game like final exam of sorts to make sure that the info and tactics took and stuck. The exam actually took place from Babylon up till the modern tactics. It allowed his legion of marines to kick some serious ass in the last part of the book, and they then are able to get mankind to be able to get a cease fire with the main big bads of the story. If ever Neural Link from Musk ever opens the door to this kind of tech and uploaded learning style and it can be proved to be the case that we can actually do this from a biology point of view; its gonna open up a lot of military possibilities for the future....
By definition a super soldier is a soldier who is augmented using genetic and or cybernetic augmentations so yes the neural implant does technically make someone a “super soldier”
The UNSC has some pretty substantial genetic sciences chops. Is there any evidence of genetic engineering outside of military programs? E.g. Medicinal, for colonists, designer babies etc?
I think there was a musician that was a designer baby in the expanded lore. Most of the gene stuff went to knocking off cancer, better disease immunity, longer and healthier lifespans, food and nutrition, and military medical operations. Though I think Flash-Cloning Organs and other body parts was just a ubiquitous marvel of modern UNSC medicine.
this is great and all but with the extreme government of the halo universe it would also be a double edged sword as it could be used to track people and dissent
I wonder if the odst have their own command variant - being able to "telepathically" discuss without having to open direct vocal comms would significantly minimise a form of detection - given it goes directly into the brain, that is also surely minimising time for information to be understood and reacted to.
@Installation00 Interesting video as always, and good to see a fellow Warhammer 40,000 fan! (I apologize to all who read this in advance for the long-winded statements) However, while technology such as this is amazing, we should all keep in mind that implants/body augmentations should never be made mandatory, not even for military personnel. It should be taken out of one’s freewill, and should be easily removed without any serious repercussions/side effects. Also, those who do not wish to have such technology in their body should not be looked down upon but treated with mutual respect and decency. There are also valid concerns in some comments that such technology could be used for nefarious purposes or be vulnerable to attacks (because come on now, technology is not invincible), which can easily happen with ONI’s corruption for example. Remember how in Deus Ex Human Revolution, Hugh Darrow broadcasted a signal that messed with the ‘brain’ implant of the cybernetically enhanced, causing them to experience horrifying hallucinations and/or attack everything in sight. Or remember Star Wars the clone troopers, how with Order 66 the inhibitor chips forced them against their own will to kill the jedi. Or how poor Captain Rex was shaking, in tears, and was trying with all his might to not shoot Ahsoka, repeating the words “find him, find him, fives. Find him! FIVES!!!" One last thing, augmentation technology is definitely a marvel and wonder of science, but we should beware of obsessing or over-glorifying it, for those cybernetically enhanced to not get big-headed or arrogant, and to not forget the value of our humanity or good old fashioned organics (not you, whoever is reading, just my opinion.). My point is that implant technology is not inherently evil, just that it should be used with caution. And that it be taken out of freewill, and to maximize its benefits and to minimize whatever flaws/dangers it could pose. All of this are just my opinions on the manner. Peace. :)
Quite off topic, but have you ever thought about redoing your UNSC Artificial Gravity video? Like if any New information came out for that sort of thing, I know the video was 4 years ago, just curious
Ghost in the machine or ghost in the shell did have removable bci kinda Also I’m assuming overtime adding a better aesthetic to the point you may not even notice it would be the next evolution
not sure if anyone else has said it yet but possibly, when the UNSC personal is off duty or is released they could have their device switched off permanently. so its still there its just dead tech inside their brain.
The Spartan IIs were given subliminal pre training for their MJOLNIR Armor during their last cryosleep cycle. Since cryosleep stops all cellular processes including brain activity, the training could only have happened during the few minutes of time between regaining normal vital levels and awakening in their pods. In those few minutes, the Spartans received their subliminal training which prepped them to be able to move in the armor with specific orders of movements and gestures to avoid uncontrolled motion or armor plate collisions.
@@Installation00ok so normal humans then have not shown any ability to upload skills in lore? Only Spartans who were already super humans? Still cool the chips make you think faster and send mind text messages and mind I-notes though.
I still don't get how spartan 4s really took off. Cost complaints were a main reason the 2s and 3s stopped, but without a doubt the maintenance alone on a spartan 4 would cost more than the other Spartans combined.
Great video as always. But i have mixed views on this neuro interface. As i can see both sides of it. I think some things are better learned "manually", you get the joy and see the progress and i kind of feel it is better ingrained and integrated within your system (human system). For instance, I would rather learn martial arts manually as opposed to having it uploaded. I get to understand my body mechanics better and I have the sense of accomplishment once learned. If you upload all these skills, would you still have the feeling of accomplishment? Or would that be irrelevant? But on the other hand, languages. I can see why simply uploading languages would be great. Yes i understand this kind of a paradox, as one person could feel accomplished from learning a new language. When i think about myself, I would rather learn and train in martial arts, manually. But i can also see, for instance, the use of simply uploading a new language. Then there are skills like medicine. Would you be happy with being a patient of a surgeon who had their skills uploaded like a month or so before? Or just the fact that they learned via upload? Or would you prefer being a patient of a surgeon who has learned the usual way. If you are able to follow what I am aiming to convey, you might see why i have mixed views. On one hand, its quicker, easier and allows for one to have multiple skills. But then what happens to the actual 'learning process', experience, feeling of accomplishment or completion? Im wondering what might be lost as a result of simply uploading stuff to the brain?
Anyone who would like to read a novel series that goes into a good amount of detail about the extremes of this technology in a fair amount of detail should read INSIGNIA By S. J. Kinkade.
If they could learn instantly, then it makes no sense to have the training academies, or to teach the Spartans from such an early age. While it could be a great research tool, it could also hamper invention and ingenuity because you could essentially instant google everything instead of making the logic connections yourself. But then the same could be said about AI. It can be a small chisel to help polish an existing design, or it can be a crutch to lean on
I can’t remember the character but I remember the tv show Heroes had someone who could watch anything and learn it Also task master could to. I remember the tv show Doll House I think last episode had exactly that downloadable skills. What about Johnny Nemonic? Some cases all these people weren’t god like lol. This becomes a situation where I’d rather have that BCI than not
"Come on, its not rocket science!"
"Rocket science is really easy actually. Compared to neuroscience."
"It's not neuroscience, then."
"Neuroscience pales in comparison to neural link technology."
"God dammit-"
The Halo neural interface is indeed quite the underrated and underutilized technology. And it has the potential to be among the greatest gifts to Humanity and/or one of the greatest curses.
It will be of great intrigue how the tech develops, proliferates, and is managed. Both in Halo and IRL.
Also yeah, Master Chief is basically Helios ending JC Denton.
it even enables a lot of vehicle based options that wouldn't be practical without it, take the scorpion tank for example, a lone crewman with a neural chip can effectively do the jobs of a minimum 3 unaugment crewmen, that being the drive, gunner and commander simultaneously, likely by incorporating interactions with their optical nerves to guide the tanks cannon, similar to how modern helicopter gunships track the head of the gunner to guide it's autocannon, but instead of a complex helmet and sensor system to track the target it uses a cheaper algorithm and computer that is fed data straight from the neural chip
Johnson was an og Spartan before the name became Spartans. That man deserved more recognition on that. Anyways sweet video
How could he be recognized anymore than he already has?
@sardonicspartan9343 right, he's already among the top most famous and popular Halo characters behind Chief, Cortana, Arbiter, and Noble team.
He knew what the ladies liked. If only he'd shared it with us...
But Yet he was easily captured in H2 and H3
The man aged slower than Mystic lmao😂
Can't forget the Insurrectionists' own "spartans," rebels hopped up on rumbledrugs to utilize their bodies' whole natural capabilities.
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canonically their hearts would practically explode and the blood vessels in their brain would hemorrhage in under an hour of taking their cocktail,
imagine it from their perspective, spartans are assaulting your base, you can hear the gunfire and heavy footsteps of the spartans down the hall, you know for a fact you're as good as dead so you take the cocktail sealing your fate just to have even the slimmest chance at winning the coming fight
that's just regular doping, it really isn't all that different than naughtsee Germany and the Finnish giving their soldiers meth to fight for days on end
@@elijahaitaok8624a. It mostly wasnt military supplied it was generally sent from home. Meth chocolate wasnt uncommon or hard to get at the time and plenty of us soldiers used it aswell. Its worth noting meth wasnt seen as a drug back then it was an over the counter medicine same with cocaine
@@elijahaitaok8624yes and no, meth was used to keep them alert and curb appetite since supply lines were so far degraded by that point in the war. Right tool for the right job and all that, I imagine the UNSC and rebels would have something far more advanced and specifically targeted, maybe something involving adrenaline and vasopressin or another neurotransmitter involved in aggressive behavior and reaction time.
This kinda explains why you hear the covenant speak English in the core Halo games, it's automatically translated to those with a neural implant. In Reach, I guess Spartan III's didn't have that "patch".
To be fair, Cortana's codex on the covie language didn't get uploaded to the whole of the UNSC Defense Forces until the Chief came back from Alpha Halo . . .
makes sense@@tyvernoverlord5363
That's because they actually *_were_* speaking English
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Always a delight to get some new intel while prepping the camp for the next company of trainees. Excellent work, 00.
The "manipulate the world around you" can be seen in H4, where the Ur-Didact dissolves the wall chief is hiding behind. Forerunners had neural interfaces too.
Yeah, and could do "magic" with their suits being the enabling medium.
The first thing that came to mind was telepathically sending random people cursed memes, lmao.
That would be both fun and annoying.
Imagine dying and constantly getting flashbacks of memes
For security purposes I imagine neural interfaces have a sort of mechanical 'kill switch' of sorts. Something that you can physically manipulate in the chip itself that essentially STOPS the communication between brain and chip, likely only accessible by the same procedure that was done to install the chips in the first place so your average joe can't just grab a paperclip and slide it under the skin to reach the "reset button" so to speak. Having these switched off is likely standard procedure for people leaving UNSC military service for precisely the reasons you've stated in regards to what sort of nefarious purposes these things could be used for.
As for the civilian market? I'm...Not sure. I'd wager there would be laws regarding the usage of neural interfaces to the point they might not even be ALLOWED in civilian hands. We've seen such draconian measures in the UNSC before with freedom of the press and the like with the Hunt the Truth campaign so perhaps neural interface technology is solely held by the UNSC and the UNSC alone.
true but i suspect that certain military manufacturers like misriah armory have certain high placed engineers and managers, might even be a ceo that have the implants in order too be more efficient and productive, it might even be that high placed doctors and proffesors also might have them, not Halsey as far as i know because she was "old fashioned" by writting most things in a diary but she could still have one, and the benefit for them is to be able to have discussions on theory's or having someone to help you if you encountered a problem and need a fresh set of eyes, or making sure some plans of yours are getting to the right person or to simply exchange ideas with, in the case of medical doctors they might be able to call for an expert in a medical emergency or too be able to collect the patients medical history or during a surgery and something goes wrong they can have an emergency consultaion with another doctor and correct anything on the fly. So indeed not everybody in civilian live might have one but i do see the merrits of certain civillian people of having one.
I would imagine it's literally just a switch that disconnects the computer aspect of the chip from the neural wiring harness in the brain, or if someone retires from service they simply remove the computer part from the skull entirely and it also wouldn't surprise me if the UNSC would reclaim the neural hardware upon the death of the retired serviceman since I can't imagine it's all that cheap to produce
Just like any tech out today, it can and would be hacked. If an individual has one, even if shut off after service, there will be someone who can turn it back on if the person wanted it on.
Heck there are even rogue AI's that could prob do the job.
@@Jadiaz-ev9hm who knows, maybe the Created have already claimed some high level executives of the various armories this way already
So in theory, former Marines that join the Insurgency could see Marines and ODST’s coming (and vice versa) sort of like a Call of Duty Minimap? Would be good for Insurrectionists to ambush Marines or use it as an early warning system.
Afterall the neural net isn’t deactivated if a Marine turns traitor and having the neural interface already means they can decode the UNSC IFF?
I guess they could be remotely deactivated but if a marine turns traitor on one side of the galaxy, how is ONI or UNSC going to know which Marines have switched sides? Big Army nowadays doesn’t instantly know the location of each and every solider on earth let alone across galaxy.
I loved this theory so much, it tickled my scientific curiosity. Remember when there was leaks about Robot spartans? What if those are the brains of fallen soldiers who are given a second chance to serve the UNSC and her colonies
I'd prefer that the UNSC not have Dreadnoughts lmao
I thought this video was going to be about Project JAVELIN, the fact that cybernetic prosthetics can be tuned to match Spartan level strength, or whoever the "superhuman stalkers, killers, and assassins" are that are mentioned in the GRD helmet description that apparently required the helmet to be tuned *down* for use by Spartans.
Learning more about neural interfaces is cool though.
What are your thoughts on the lore from one of the newer helmets in Halo Infinite, which mentions what are apparently *Banished supersoldiers* being made on Venezia?
I've not seen any material indicating "instant learning" capability for the UNSC Neural Interface; I don't think that neuronal remapping is within the capabilities of the device.
Information storage and retrieval to/from an onboard hard drive? Plenty even in the first few books. And that would be a _game changer._
Still, even without instant learning, the NI is awesome and I'm glad you've given it some love!
I see this video as more of a theoretical conversation. Obviously, UNSC is still early phases of the interface since we have not seen most of the abilities discussed here. However, with time the groundwork is there for amazing abilities.
Lord Hood can learn how to breakdance whenever he wants. Why hasn't he yet?
He's in the military; what practical use would breakdancing have in combat? Especially at the age he is?
This video reminds me of a concept that doesn't get used enough in sci fi where technology and neural implants are so advanced that people who are able to harness is basically become techno mages and the line between technology and magic is blurred
“The Machine God”
Ave Omnissiah! Ave Mechanicus!
Also the last third of the video is pretty much the gist of a net runner from Cyberpunk.
Love the video! ❤
Yeah, this sounds like something pivotal and transformative, but not as iconic as the Spartan stuff, so it naturally would get overlooked. It also makes sense: it's the future! We don't always think about how utterly insane the internet is, much less use it to it's full potential. We're used to it. We'd get used to these implants, too.
The whole concept of uploading knowledge directly into the human brain reminds me of an old 1960s Spy series called Joe 90. In that, a nine year old kid (Joe) was routinely being ‘programmed’ with expert knowledge and experience to enable him to undertake all manner of undercover and dangerous missions.
Someone being able to talk to me, just by thinking sounds like my idea of hell
To take it a step further, why not take an AI give them an artificial body but with a bit more internal power to run in production with the Spartan armor but drastically increased shield performance would be one thing I would hope for
Take for instant Kat she had a robotic arm that was very plain.
Why not add more power to the arm to supplement her shields? Add an additional computing power or an alternate AI?
Your videos are always interesting and thought provoking! Thank you dude
Black market would be going ape from a interface from a ODST, high rank enlisted, officer's and a dead Spartan
As much as he dragged out the intro I thought he was gonna say "Luck" or "Plot Armor" xD
This sounds like Ghost in the Shell situation now. Everyone's brain is cyberized and has their own neural link.
nice to see someone make a video on the same general idea i came to regarding neural implants back in 2014-15ish, this was back when i was finishing my read of the forerunner trilogy of books and i just started reading contact harvest while also starting my deep dive into halo lore n shit.
*No wonder the UNSC were terrified of Insurrectionists. Imagine a bunch of ex UNSC personal defecting and going rogue with that kinda power.*
Do not forget the Banished and Venezians making their own super-soldiers according the Camazotz helmet.
Only thought I have is the encrypted key is potentially crackable, assuming we are talking photonics or Quantum level of computing. Assume we have all the functions of the best phones mashed into a device in your head which is dope. But it’s crackable.
Guys he didn't took his pills, he is at it again
🔥🔥🔥 love your stuff man!
I still say that the UNSC's greatest strength is their ability to regenerate and reconstitute their forces. Their ability to heal their soldier from what is guaranteed death in our world from just about anywhere is amazing. This also is amazing for generation as you can regain strength faster to be able to train and fight more. If the Covenant wasn't so OP we would see the UNSC as the power house they are.
What a damn good intro and hook! Well played brother!
The neral interface also turned out to be a weak spot for malicious AI to invade, like Iratuse. Although an opening for the invasion was done on purpose as bait to get Iratuse out of a space ships systems as a desperate means of escape.
I’m also reminded of Cyber Punk 2077, where every Cyberdeck user can make a crippling weakness out of neral interfaces with just a few quick hacks.
I’m sure the UNSC perfected the security of standard issue neral links so that it wouldn’t become an obvious weakness to insurgent hackers, but I have to wonder if there’d ever be an event extreme enough to take the neral links off the mandatory implant list. Halo isn’t that kind of universe that would make a plot point out of this of course. There’s nothing like Magneto from X Men yanking on the implants for free insta kills or Super hacking factions like from Battle Star Galactica that outright requires your computers to have no networking at all. Would the Battle Stars from that series beat Master Chief and Cortana with a single quick hack?
We know any tech made today will get hacked. It has been proven over and over. No reason to think that can't happen in the future in the Halo universe. There are even Rogue AIs who could do the trick.
You mean cylons?
@@RandemFellow Yes those
Wait, communicating in your head! In halo 4, the Didact communicated in master chief’s head, and Cortana couldn’t hear the Didact, it was in the pelican mission, I think this goes way deeper than you think!
What you pointed out in this video is why I'm excited and terrified by Elon's Neuralink project. The benefits and harm this project would do to humanity would be great and we may see a glimpse of what it can do in our lifetime.
If Neuralink is anything like his other ventures, I'd be surprised if it ever gets beyond the 'killing-a-load-of-monkies' phase. I'm sure the tech in some form is an eventuality but I doubt he'll be the one to usher it in.
Do yourself a favor and dont be excited for his thing. The amount of animals that have died for that (1500, including primates) with horrific side-effects should be enough to put anyone off. Obviously in the future of Halo they found a way to poke around inside the by far most sensitive part of the body and somehow not having a metal-plug overheating the brain (which you know dont react well to single-digit changes) just by being out in the sun
@@SuperAerieI'd wager over the next 100 years the best we get is 100gigs extra capacity and some jackasses charging us for WiFi and mandatory commercials for life as best case.
@@SuperAerie Yes its sad but millions more animals die from being eaten so what is your point? Eventually Earth will face existential threats where we would need to utilize certain technologies. Self preservation of humans comes before our emotion for other species. Don’t lose the plot.
@@SuperAerie You realize that's what animal testing is for right? Do you not know how many drugs and devices are tested on animals first? Its practically all of them... What would you rather humans be the ones to test them first? As with everything weve created the first iteration is never that good but it will improve overtime.
Neural interface sounds like mix of stuff that Matrix shown but also what Cyberpunk has :D
It started to just sound like Cyberpunk 2077 the more he went on
so halo is basically a video game version of
ghost in the shell
if it was about war with an alien death cult
This video just made ONI so much more scary
Captain keys Be like I KNOW KUNG FU!
So in theory, former Marines that join the Insurgency could see Marines and ODST’s coming (and vice versa) sort of like a Call of Duty Minimap? Would be good for Insurrectionists to ambush Marines or use it as an early warning system.
Afterall the neural net isn’t deactivated if a Marine turns traitor and having the neural interface already means they can decode the UNSC IFF?
I guess they could be remotely deactivated but if a marine turns traitor on one side of the galaxy, how is ONI or UNSC going to know which Marines have switched sides? Big Army nowadays doesn’t instantly know the location of each and every solider on earth let alone across galaxy.
I think I'll stick to the spoken word. I don't want a computer reading my mind!
Maybe could even control your own thoughts completely, like if you want to forget something just have the implant delete it from your mind, if you want to remember something have the implant give you perfect recall of that thing. Feeling pain, turn off the sensation of pain. Want to be happy? make yourself happy, wanna sleep? make yourself sleep. More productive? More excited? less angry? It would be complete and total control over your own thoughts and thus actions.
This isn't even getting into the potential psychosomatic and psychobiological like placebo effects. 😮
When we speak our brain activates the muscles in our throat. This is called a voicebox or larynx. If they can comunicate telepathically this bypasses their voicebox. The only way they would be able telepathically transmit their voice is if the person they are talking to saves a copy of their voice into a computer, or saves a copy on the host computer then transmitts the file to the other person before talking. Similar to how OCR software works.
Humans have this now, if we know someone well enough, we can read text messages in their voice, like if they were talking to us. The only downside we loose emotion behind the text message.
Kinda funny/ironic, that the Neural Interface is pretty similar to what you would see in a Cyberpunk setting. Which make you wonder if the covenant have something similar to this? Or perhaps the Covenant didn't have something similar that allowed them to either interface with Human networks or other means of communication that aren't necessarily "standard". Which creates a sort of interesting thought that the Cole Protocol probably wasn't even needed. That even IF the Covenant were able to get their hands on say a human data-core that they would BARELY know how to interface with it, or get any answers FROM it.
Just because something can interface with your brain doesn't mean you can learn things instantaneously. Learning is a unique process for every brain and requires repeat practice to form new neuronal connections specific to you. Just downloading data through conductors does not even come close to explaining the intricate process of learning that would yield usable motor skills or knowledge available to be connected to other concepts.
In Halo 2 when Johnson and Miranda are getting the activation index, Johnson's battle rifle unholsters from his back just before he gets attacked the Arbiter. I'd assume that just by thinking about unholstering the weapon a UNSC Marine's magnetic back holster will raise the weapon up and allow the Marine to grab it?
Could maybe even control your own thoughts completely, like if you want to forget something just have the implant delete it from your mind, if you want to remember something have the implant give you perfect recall of that thing. Feeling pain, turn off the sensation of pain. Want to be happy? make yourself happy, wanna sleep? make yourself sleep. More productive? More excited? less angry? It would be complete and total control over your own thoughts and thus actions.
This isn't even getting into the potential psychosomatic and psychobiological effects like placebos. 😮
They wouldn't be the Machine God, there is only one Machine God and he is beyond what we would even consider human. Blessed are his devout followers and those who submit to the will of the Omnissiah
Plot twist: The Omnissiah buried deep beneath the Martian surface is actually Noble VI in his cave. He's been awaiting. Learning. Transcending.
From the moment he understood the weakness of his flesh, he was disgusted by it...
Something I didn't hear you touch on is external storage. By storing information on a hard drive outside your brain it becomes trivial to be a renascence man.
Need to remember Pi to 600 digit's? Thousands of meme references, some of which have been dead longer than you've been alive? the complete classics?
Further: offloading skills in the same way you do with games in your steam library.
So interesting concept from the book series Hyperion that could apply to this topic where AI uses human neural space is used to store AI systems forcing AI to keep in a perpetual parasitic relationship between humans and AI
The speech and hearing interface part would make sense we can almost do that already, we have tech small enough that it is potentially possible to implant it.
Like what some deaf people are able to get? Cochlear Implants?
@@justchilling704 yea that or similar with bone conduxton headphones
I read about something like this in Revelation 13.
Huh?
This may explain Key's last radio transmission.
I just thought some radio was still stuck on his head
Loved the video, I feel like the neural interfaces are a pretty cool aspect of the lore that hasn't really been explored before.
Only thing is, you said "recipitent" a few times, but the word is recipient. Only one T, at the end.
A few of the ideas you talk about here are present in the Hyperion novels, which I highly recommend you go read if you haven't. In fact in the beginning of the video, I instantly agreed with you when you said it was the neural interface that makes people superhumans.
Will you do a video about the new Flood short story?
Wow, who knew how much cyberpunk Halo was.
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And we might be able to have a Warhammer dreadnought, but better because Halos far much more cleaner than Warhammer is.
10:26 a new meaning to the voice in your head
What is crazy is that Elons Nureolink is approved for human testing.. Remember Elon exists in the Halo universe, never know in some future books he might be the one who developed the earliest version 😂
Do you have any thoughts on Bungies mass firings?
It was bound to happen with how high Bungie's cash burn-through rate is, especially as of late. Management really did it in a rude way though. Don't want most of the Bungie devs that were laid off to get hired by 343i though, since most were just HR and marketing and accounting and art and finances and such. Specifically finances and HR and so on, those people just gum up gaming companies and make products worse looking at them as a whole. I also think everyone acting like this is the end of the world is overreacting, tech lay-offs have been going on for this whole year and assuming it wouldn't hit the whole of the AAA gaming industry was delusional.
@@trashjashwhat about Michael Salvatori? He’d be good to get back on Halo
@@theAverageJoe25 You said it yourself, it would be good to get him back to compose some musical pieces for Halo again. But he's an exception to the vast majority of the people laid off who would either have no positive impact or have a downright negative impact on 343. Halo is still in a really shaky spot right now. Season 5 was a good step forward, but 343 has a decade of self-inflicted leaping backwards that they're working against. No need to make that harder by hiring on a bunch of people who never touched Destiny 1, let alone Halo just because they worked under a company that wears Bungie on its name tag.
The Bungie behind Destiny 2 is about as good as 343 Industries was before this short period of Pierre Heintze's leadership, they just didn't have a legendary IP that was a beacon of the golden age of gaming to tarnish with poor choices regarding story and art and gameplay and monetization, just a new one IP. And that new one has nearly caught Bungie on fire several times over recent years due to horrible choices that I've watched and experienced in real time. Destiny 2 is more of a casino than a game trying to give you a good time to have fun in.
_Forever War_ has the protagonist become a Lt to a Field Marshall in the span of 24 hours via this kind of computer aided matrix style of training upload. He also undergoes a ender's game like final exam of sorts to make sure that the info and tactics took and stuck. The exam actually took place from Babylon up till the modern tactics.
It allowed his legion of marines to kick some serious ass in the last part of the book, and they then are able to get mankind to be able to get a cease fire with the main big bads of the story.
If ever Neural Link from Musk ever opens the door to this kind of tech and uploaded learning style and it can be proved to be the case that we can actually do this from a biology point of view; its gonna open up a lot of military possibilities for the future....
sounds like Borg drones.
This is really good and i agree
By definition a super soldier is a soldier who is augmented using genetic and or cybernetic augmentations so yes the neural implant does technically make someone a “super soldier”
The UNSC has some pretty substantial genetic sciences chops. Is there any evidence of genetic engineering outside of military programs? E.g. Medicinal, for colonists, designer babies etc?
I think there was a musician that was a designer baby in the expanded lore.
Most of the gene stuff went to knocking off cancer, better disease immunity, longer and healthier lifespans, food and nutrition, and military medical operations. Though I think Flash-Cloning Organs and other body parts was just a ubiquitous marvel of modern UNSC medicine.
this is great and all but with the extreme government of the halo universe it would also be a double edged sword as it could be used to track people and dissent
I wonder if the odst have their own command variant - being able to "telepathically" discuss without having to open direct vocal comms would significantly minimise a form of detection - given it goes directly into the brain, that is also surely minimising time for information to be understood and reacted to.
The Adeptus Mechanicus is salivating at your end statement.
@Installation00 Interesting video as always, and good to see a fellow Warhammer 40,000 fan!
(I apologize to all who read this in advance for the long-winded statements) However, while technology such as this is amazing, we should all keep in mind that implants/body augmentations should never be made mandatory, not even for military personnel. It should be taken out of one’s freewill, and should be easily removed without any serious repercussions/side effects. Also, those who do not wish to have such technology in their body should not be looked down upon but treated with mutual respect and decency.
There are also valid concerns in some comments that such technology could be used for nefarious purposes or be vulnerable to attacks (because come on now, technology is not invincible), which can easily happen with ONI’s corruption for example.
Remember how in Deus Ex Human Revolution, Hugh Darrow broadcasted a signal that messed with the ‘brain’ implant of the cybernetically enhanced, causing them to experience horrifying hallucinations and/or attack everything in sight.
Or remember Star Wars the clone troopers, how with Order 66 the inhibitor chips forced them against their own will to kill the jedi. Or how poor Captain Rex was shaking, in tears, and was trying with all his might to not shoot Ahsoka, repeating the words “find him, find him, fives. Find him! FIVES!!!"
One last thing, augmentation technology is definitely a marvel and wonder of science, but we should beware of obsessing or over-glorifying it, for those cybernetically enhanced to not get big-headed or arrogant, and to not forget the value of our humanity or good old fashioned organics (not you, whoever is reading, just my opinion.).
My point is that implant technology is not inherently evil, just that it should be used with caution. And that it be taken out of freewill, and to maximize its benefits and to minimize whatever flaws/dangers it could pose. All of this are just my opinions on the manner. Peace. :)
I’m pretty sure odsts are technically super human I heard they have minor augmentation that lowers their need for sleep, food and bathroom breaks
Huh, I never would have put together that helmet part but yea, that's really the only way that'd make sense. Good sleuthing
Should've put Johnson in mk 2 armor. My man could've handled it without the required augmentations because he's got that dog in him.
This is all fine as long as Cybus Industries doesn’t get involved
We are getting close to this in real life with vr and neural link
Lets just hope it's EMP resistant.
Video idea.
What is the greatest technology humanity ever made? Shaw-Fujikawa translight engine, neural interface, or Dumb AI?
Quite off topic, but have you ever thought about redoing your UNSC Artificial Gravity video? Like if any New information came out for that sort of thing, I know the video was 4 years ago, just curious
The Neural Interface is so common that you can't be superhuman with it alone because they've become baseline.
It all depends on who controls the network.
Is that what the Spartan Neural Lace does? I thought it was until someone corrected me it was just for allowing AI to interface with Spartans' brains.
Ghost in the machine or ghost in the shell did have removable bci kinda
Also I’m assuming overtime adding a better aesthetic to the point you may not even notice it would be the next evolution
We got this basic form with musk Nurolink. Wonder if it will ever mature to this or government regulation like AI
I feel bad for the guy who gets a 25 Petabyte zip folder full of Judy Hopps rule34.
I wonder what is the processing, storage and networking involved with the interface
ngl, i 100% thaught you where going to go with knolage lol
like Dr. Halsey IMO is 100% a super human
Loved the video!
not sure if anyone else has said it yet but possibly, when the UNSC personal is off duty or is released they could have their device switched off permanently. so its still there its just dead tech inside their brain.
Is this why Spartans have a super close bond? They can telepathically sense each other?
Where in lore does someone upload a skill?
The Spartan IIs were given subliminal pre training for their MJOLNIR Armor during their last cryosleep cycle. Since cryosleep stops all cellular processes including brain activity, the training could only have happened during the few minutes of time between regaining normal vital levels and awakening in their pods.
In those few minutes, the Spartans received their subliminal training which prepped them to be able to move in the armor with specific orders of movements and gestures to avoid uncontrolled motion or armor plate collisions.
@@Installation00ok so normal humans then have not shown any ability to upload skills in lore? Only Spartans who were already super humans? Still cool the chips make you think faster and send mind text messages and mind I-notes though.
I still don't get how spartan 4s really took off. Cost complaints were a main reason the 2s and 3s stopped, but without a doubt the maintenance alone on a spartan 4 would cost more than the other Spartans combined.
Oh Halo, how I miss you so much!
Great video as always. But i have mixed views on this neuro interface. As i can see both sides of it. I think some things are better learned "manually", you get the joy and see the progress and i kind of feel it is better ingrained and integrated within your system (human system). For instance, I would rather learn martial arts manually as opposed to having it uploaded. I get to understand my body mechanics better and I have the sense of accomplishment once learned. If you upload all these skills, would you still have the feeling of accomplishment? Or would that be irrelevant? But on the other hand, languages. I can see why simply uploading languages would be great. Yes i understand this kind of a paradox, as one person could feel accomplished from learning a new language. When i think about myself, I would rather learn and train in martial arts, manually. But i can also see, for instance, the use of simply uploading a new language.
Then there are skills like medicine. Would you be happy with being a patient of a surgeon who had their skills uploaded like a month or so before? Or just the fact that they learned via upload? Or would you prefer being a patient of a surgeon who has learned the usual way.
If you are able to follow what I am aiming to convey, you might see why i have mixed views. On one hand, its quicker, easier and allows for one to have multiple skills. But then what happens to the actual 'learning process', experience, feeling of accomplishment or completion? Im wondering what might be lost as a result of simply uploading stuff to the brain?
Anyone who would like to read a novel series that goes into a good amount of detail about the extremes of this technology in a fair amount of detail should read INSIGNIA By S. J. Kinkade.
Halsey is definitely superhuman.
If they could learn instantly, then it makes no sense to have the training academies, or to teach the Spartans from such an early age. While it could be a great research tool, it could also hamper invention and ingenuity because you could essentially instant google everything instead of making the logic connections yourself. But then the same could be said about AI. It can be a small chisel to help polish an existing design, or it can be a crutch to lean on
Not needing bluetooth headphones would be nice
I can’t remember the character but I remember the tv show Heroes had someone who could watch anything and learn it Also task master could to. I remember the tv show Doll House I think last episode had exactly that downloadable skills.
What about Johnny Nemonic?
Some cases all these people weren’t god like lol.
This becomes a situation where I’d rather have that BCI than not
here something to chew on a Neural Interface can be indirect meanly no implants