@@TheOnlyBootlegger my awkwardness is not related to power level. It's related to how unintuitive the interaction is for me. I used to think of Serum as "you get a free mulligan". Didn't realize that with London you have to bottom before the effect
I understand the flavor of having only cololess lands, but having forests would allow him to cast the green non domain pump spells when he loses leyline, and I think that's worth losing some scry lands
Yea, I didn't really understand the manabase. A few scrylands didn't seem worth it. I get the flavor of it, but also I thought there were like way better utility lands than just a scry 1
Match 3 game 1. You confuse might of old krosa with groundswell. You don't need a land, you just cast it main phase to get +4/+4 which would have been enough for lethal. It may have drawn a removal spell on your creature instead of them destroying the leyline.
Finally a modern video again! I get that the format is trash for against the odds/budget magic/much abrew since MH2, but it was mtggoldfish videos that really got me into modern when I started magic back in 2014 so it’s nice to watch them again
Don't worry, they'll still be some Modern (probably just not as much as in the past because, as you mentioned, it's not as easy to play jank as it used to be). I expect we'll be playing it a ton in a few months though when MH3 and Assassin's Creed come out, I'm super hyped for those sets (especially MH3)
This deckbuilder was definitely going on hardmode for no reason. Swap Blessing of the Nephililm out for Aspect of the Hydra, swap Faith's Shield out for Taymiyo's Safekeeping, and run some green sources in the mana base instead of this jank. Even if you dont add any other colors to your manabase but green, the only spells you cant cast are then Scamp and Agent. much more reliable.
Agree, he needs to run some Forests and Plains and would even run some Gruul and Simic lands just in case. I would not be running too many colorless - Urza's Saga is only a good land in Artifact centric Decks (but this isn't an artifact deck). - Escape Tunnel is not useful if we don't have basics in this Deck since the other function is more useful if we have Mirrex/Skrelv's Hive or even Venerated Rotpriest. But for that, just run an Toxic/Infect Hybrid Deck that has both plans in mind (try slam with a Big Infected creature and if that does not work you start slaming with smaller Toxic Creature (using Escape Tunnel to ensure they get overwhelmed by the Poison) or get your bigger Toxic Creatures in play and slam him - If you want to run Inkmoth Nexus, you should also run Blinkmoth Nexus too
I agree on Faith's Shield swapping out for Tamiyo's Safekeeping, simply because Faith's shield doesn't protect Leyline from Boseiju, but Blessing of the Nephilim is strictly better than Aspect of Hydra in this deck. Maybe another pump spell to consider is Might of the Nephilim.
@MTGGoldfish Seth Try play the land that makes all land into forests in addition to other types called Yavimaya. If you do this you can cast Leyline and half of your other spells.
I pulled a Leyline during Draft at my LGS. My draft deck didn’t need it, but I kept it anyway just to have it. Excellent decision. Picking it over a useful card didn’t even hurt the deck either, I got first place!
First round of match 5, the turn you got the urzas saga you could have animated inkmoth, used might of alara to get in for 6. opponents turn you block with your 6/6, then when you draw blessing of nephilim, you play it on inkmoth to win the game. Hindsight is 20/20 though, and I wasn't playing the match, so I don't know if I would have seen it either.
@@MTGGoldfish This deck has potential! Right now you took a lot of advantage of the surprise factor, but you also were hampered by the lack of refinement.
I love how there are so many janky ways to win with infect. Turns out even 1 and 2 mana 1/1s are good when you're opponent starts at a psuedo 10 life. Also this reminds me of how glad I am gitaxian probe is banned lol
I would love to see a revised version of this deck with all of Seth's ideas & some more testing. Would be hilarious to see it become even more lethal after going 3-2.
I just don't understand why you want to purposely handicap yourself by playing colorless lands only. Deck can still do its thing and play colored lands. Just, odd.
This deck makes me shiver, lol. I would replace some of the colorless lands in some amount of forests or one of each basic land (other than swamp). It also lets you tutor basics with Escape Tunnel
Great content. I prefer the safer hexproof infect pump plans. Vines of vastwood. Occasionally steal wins but often times have one or two hexproof spells in hand against removal
Yeah, I also think adding some green lands instead of especially Escape Tunnel would make the deck a lot more consistent, and if there is an alternative to Blessing of the Nephilim in green, then you wouldn't have to play white and Faith's Shield and could auto-include 4 Tamiyo's Safekeeping.
I agree with the end take. The colorless lands do have some utility but it doesn't feel worth fundamentally Blood Mooning your deck. You could keep the Gemstone Caverns, Serum Powder, and Leyline plan while actually being able to cast spells. This deck is already trying to be blazing fast so maybe some Mana Confluence and City of Brass. Get some Forces and evoke elemental sideboard action going on.
I know we didn't have a poll and Seth didn't build this deck himself and all that, but I really feel like this deck should be an "Against the Odds" video 😂😂
31:29 but the evaaaaasion tho. What you really need is a spell that gives hexproof and flying for one mana. Like a Water Wings that costs one less in exchange for losing the size change
Might of Old Krosa could be Aspect of Hydra instead The leyline gives 4 devotion to green, so it's already better because you don't have the main phase restriction, but if you happen to open with 2 leylines that's a +8+8 buff
Looks at might. Talks about land drops. Mydude. You where thinking of groundswell. And that card has alway been rubbish in infect imo. So glad we got better spells now.
is aether vial legal in this format if it is i feel like it might be a strong add as its colorless (sorry if this is a dumb suggestion im new to deck building)
Just on the deck tech, I don't understand why we *need* to only use colorless lands in this deck. In fact, wouldn't having a suite with a bunch of shocks work better? We kinda die to Blood Moon anyway, but we can board basics for that if we really need to (but Leyline Binding probably does that job better). And bear in mind, I'm writing this comment before seeing *any* of the games.
I do not understand why M3 opp attacked and then scooped. All they have to do is keep scion back to block and they have like 6 turns to draw interaction to deal with agent. Total confusion from the off-the-walls nature of this deck I suppose.
Fr I would take out the colorless lands and have a more standard mana-base as backup. But if you wanted to keep with the memes I'd recommend mirrex and creeping inn for more poison and sac outlet for scamp
I too am surprised that you won even a single match. It feels like this deck would be so frustrating to play(at least add 1 basic forest to the mix, so when you're getting boseju'ed you can still do something)
I don't see how the all-colorless manabase upside is worth the risk. The little buffs they offer in exchange for "if our leyline dies, we lose"? In a disenchant-heavy format? C'mon. Use basic-land-type lands as a backup so the domain-based buffs are still good eventually, get rid of serum powder (catastrophically clogs the deck) and maybe try scion of draco to give everything flying and protection - and then I think you've got something. I love jank, I love that this was an unexpected success, but the deliberate risk seems like nothing more than a flex from the builder.
The way Serum Powder works with London Mulligans is.... unsetling
It's not that bad. Once or twice a decade, we get a glass-cannon deck that plays Serum Powder, and the deck disappears completely.
@@McArRuIzO Vintage would like a word with you
It's the same way it worked with Paris or Vancouver. You just have to go down to your actual hand size before you Powder.
@@TheOnlyBootlegger my awkwardness is not related to power level. It's related to how unintuitive the interaction is for me. I used to think of Serum as "you get a free mulligan". Didn't realize that with London you have to bottom before the effect
It's super weird.
I understand the flavor of having only cololess lands, but having forests would allow him to cast the green non domain pump spells when he loses leyline, and I think that's worth losing some scry lands
Even a single forest would protect him from Field of Ruins, etc.
Yea, I didn't really understand the manabase. A few scrylands didn't seem worth it. I get the flavor of it, but also I thought there were like way better utility lands than just a scry 1
@@kelvinliu-huang5955it would also give him fetchables for escape tunnel, just in case
There is a Land, can do same as zhalfiring void , untapped, but can make colour too for tap 1
@@Volkan-uh2by Crystal Grotto. Like you said, strictly better! And in this deck, a massive boon
Match 3 game 1. You confuse might of old krosa with groundswell. You don't need a land, you just cast it main phase to get +4/+4 which would have been enough for lethal. It may have drawn a removal spell on your creature instead of them destroying the leyline.
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Same.
Finally a modern video again! I get that the format is trash for against the odds/budget magic/much abrew since MH2, but it was mtggoldfish videos that really got me into modern when I started magic back in 2014 so it’s nice to watch them again
Don't worry, they'll still be some Modern (probably just not as much as in the past because, as you mentioned, it's not as easy to play jank as it used to be). I expect we'll be playing it a ton in a few months though when MH3 and Assassin's Creed come out, I'm super hyped for those sets (especially MH3)
This deckbuilder was definitely going on hardmode for no reason. Swap Blessing of the Nephililm out for Aspect of the Hydra, swap Faith's Shield out for Taymiyo's Safekeeping, and run some green sources in the mana base instead of this jank. Even if you dont add any other colors to your manabase but green, the only spells you cant cast are then Scamp and Agent. much more reliable.
Agree, he needs to run some Forests and Plains and would even run some Gruul and Simic lands just in case. I would not be running too many colorless
- Urza's Saga is only a good land in Artifact centric Decks (but this isn't an artifact deck).
- Escape Tunnel is not useful if we don't have basics in this Deck since the other function is more useful if we have Mirrex/Skrelv's Hive or even Venerated Rotpriest. But for that, just run an Toxic/Infect Hybrid Deck that has both plans in mind (try slam with a Big Infected creature and if that does not work you start slaming with smaller Toxic Creature (using Escape Tunnel to ensure they get overwhelmed by the Poison) or get your bigger Toxic Creatures in play and slam him
- If you want to run Inkmoth Nexus, you should also run Blinkmoth Nexus too
Running scion of Draco would be dope too
I agree on Faith's Shield swapping out for Tamiyo's Safekeeping, simply because Faith's shield doesn't protect Leyline from Boseiju, but Blessing of the Nephilim is strictly better than Aspect of Hydra in this deck. Maybe another pump spell to consider is Might of the Nephilim.
@MTGGoldfish Seth Try play the land that makes all land into forests in addition to other types called Yavimaya. If you do this you can cast Leyline and half of your other spells.
Oh yeah thats actually really smart!
A _very_ good idea.
Seth's victory cry at 18:30 filled me with joy
Seth's absolute bafflement and joy when he first achieved a winning record with the deck fills my heart with joy
I pulled a Leyline during Draft at my LGS. My draft deck didn’t need it, but I kept it anyway just to have it. Excellent decision. Picking it over a useful card didn’t even hurt the deck either, I got first place!
Probably worth running just for the mana fixing anyway
What did you run?
4 mana GGGG fixing, yup sounds good
First round of match 5, the turn you got the urzas saga you could have animated inkmoth, used might of alara to get in for 6. opponents turn you block with your 6/6, then when you draw blessing of nephilim, you play it on inkmoth to win the game.
Hindsight is 20/20 though, and I wasn't playing the match, so I don't know if I would have seen it either.
seeing seth's live reaction was a banger through and through
I thought it was really funny that at 36:30 you can hear the fear of God entering Seth's voice for a second. Great video!
Did you consider might of the Nephilim? I used to use that in a jank nephilim deck, but here it seems like 2 mights of alara in a single card
Ohh, I totally missed that card! I think it's worth playing a couple of copies. One-shot kill with Leyline and an infect creature!
@@MTGGoldfish This deck has potential!
Right now you took a lot of advantage of the surprise factor, but you also were hampered by the lack of refinement.
So why the colorless lands instead of like... basic forests? Doesn't that accomplish the same thing with significantly less risk of bricking?
Because there are colourless lands that offer utility and still come in untapped.
@@deejay.zedemexthe scry lands don't seem worth it to me
I was asking the same question.
Style points
The colourless lands are funny but running them over basic Forests (or, let's be honest, Boseiju) is questionable
I'd love to see you run this back with a functional manabase to see if the colorless lands actually make a difference.
Seth confusing might of old krosa with groundswell at 20:48 hurt my soul a little bit but awesome deck!
Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth over the gray havens allows the chance to cast a layline
I'm pretty sure that aspect of the hydra is better than might of old krosa in this awesome deck
Yep, I think you are right. We can't cast it without Leyline anyway and it will always be +5/+5 at a min.
@MTGGoldfish it's only +4/+4 if you have 1 leyline and no glistener elf. But even still, extra +1/+1 on elf and it goes bananas with double leyline
Should we just have a scion of Draco in here to give our stuff protection and other keywords
I love how there are so many janky ways to win with infect. Turns out even 1 and 2 mana 1/1s are good when you're opponent starts at a psuedo 10 life.
Also this reminds me of how glad I am gitaxian probe is banned lol
this deck is completely and utterly weird but super fun to watch!
The shy cry of pure fear at 20:31
Seth having a mono black magic deck building moment :
Finally modern. Miss the days when we could have 3 modern videos in a week.
I just don't see the point in all the colorless lands? Like couldn't you use some lands that produce colors, and have a strictly better deck?
They all have activated abilities, but I don't know if that's enough upside to make it worth not being able to cast spells when we don't have leyline.
Been looking forward to this one, I hope it goes well!
Edit: Match 1 was brutal lmao
I would love to see a revised version of this deck with all of Seth's ideas & some more testing. Would be hilarious to see it become even more lethal after going 3-2.
34:56 earned my like. "And I'm at a loss for words" 😂
Seth getting excited for a win literally makes me excited lol.
I just don't understand why you want to purposely handicap yourself by playing colorless lands only. Deck can still do its thing and play colored lands. Just, odd.
I know right
Drives engagement, people comment complaining about it.
That groundswell sure looked a lot like a might of old krosa
30:24 I thought you were saying Face Shield and I was like What did I miss?? 😂😂 🎭
Lol, yeah I thought it was some COVID-era special edition card.
This deck makes me shiver, lol. I would replace some of the colorless lands in some amount of forests or one of each basic land (other than swamp). It also lets you tutor basics with Escape Tunnel
yea the Crystal Grotto and Yavimaya Cradle of Growth disrespect was wild - it would make the deck really strong!
Thanks for putting the format on the title
i dont know what landfall spell you were thinking of, but might of old krosa doesnt need a land
This is a wild enough list that I'd like to see another video where you revamp and try to improve it
Great content. I prefer the safer hexproof infect pump plans. Vines of vastwood. Occasionally steal wins but often times have one or two hexproof spells in hand against removal
Yeah, I also think adding some green lands instead of especially Escape Tunnel would make the deck a lot more consistent, and if there is an alternative to Blessing of the Nephilim in green, then you wouldn't have to play white and Faith's Shield and could auto-include 4 Tamiyo's Safekeeping.
I would love to see this deck again in the near future with your upgrade ideas.
when the future looks bleak and grey, We pull out our rose-coloured glasses and run with the devil.
-Me
I agree with the end take. The colorless lands do have some utility but it doesn't feel worth fundamentally Blood Mooning your deck. You could keep the Gemstone Caverns, Serum Powder, and Leyline plan while actually being able to cast spells. This deck is already trying to be blazing fast so maybe some Mana Confluence and City of Brass. Get some Forces and evoke elemental sideboard action going on.
So glad to be here first for my favorite style deck... nothing beats a good old leyline to start a game
You could play “treasure vault” and keep the colorless land meem alive; and also have color mana when the leyline is removed.
Meme decks that can steal matches are my spirit animal.
Happy to see you covering Modern! ❤❤
Just giving some engagement. Love how the guild pacts is shaking up 60 card formats.
Remember your new year's resolution to be less fearful and make them have it more!
Awesome deck, trying it out now
Good luck!
Awesome game play👍🏻
I love how your Terror of the Peaks in your chest is less than a Ticket on MODO, but its $40+ in paper 🙃🤓👍🏻
I think all colorless lands is too cheeky, but this deck definitely has something going for it
I assumed they had some janky colorless I didn’t know that made 2 mana and such. But no.
27:14 I was like YOU CAN CAST THE BLESSING nooo
realized he had no land types lmaoit would have given +0/+0
This deck has the added bonus of causing severe psychic damage to any opponent who loses to it.
Draw go Seth is when Crim is on the shoulder and winning the arguement ;)
This is peak IKEA Gun. This is magic should be.
21:00 Might of Old Krosa is not Groundswell, my dude
Big Brain Brewing is a great name for a UA-cam channel
Having a couple City of Brass's would help
Truly the game Richard Garfield imagined.
maybe a version of this with Scion + land grand and basic forest would work with all the mulligans
I know we didn't have a poll and Seth didn't build this deck himself and all that, but I really feel like this deck should be an "Against the Odds" video 😂😂
31:29 but the evaaaaasion tho. What you really need is a spell that gives hexproof and flying for one mana. Like a Water Wings that costs one less in exchange for losing the size change
"This deck has exceeded my expectations." after one match win feels like how I play MTGO all the time.
can someone elaborate why the colorless lands!??!?
meme
Might of Old Krosa could be Aspect of Hydra instead
The leyline gives 4 devotion to green, so it's already better because you don't have the main phase restriction, but if you happen to open with 2 leylines that's a +8+8 buff
Looks at might. Talks about land drops.
Mydude. You where thinking of groundswell. And that card has alway been rubbish in infect imo. So glad we got better spells now.
26:29 But you have Gemstone Caverns. Oh, you saw that like 5 seconds later.
Not sure what you'd cut, but Scion of Draco might be really good in this deck. It's down on turn two.
This is the result of taking a busted mechanic and handicapping youself so hard in the deckbuilding that you start rooting for Infect again.
is aether vial legal in this format if it is i feel like it might be a strong add as its colorless (sorry if this is a dumb suggestion im new to deck building)
Just on the deck tech, I don't understand why we *need* to only use colorless lands in this deck. In fact, wouldn't having a suite with a bunch of shocks work better? We kinda die to Blood Moon anyway, but we can board basics for that if we really need to (but Leyline Binding probably does that job better). And bear in mind, I'm writing this comment before seeing *any* of the games.
I do not understand why M3 opp attacked and then scooped. All they have to do is keep scion back to block and they have like 6 turns to draw interaction to deal with agent. Total confusion from the off-the-walls nature of this deck I suppose.
Im not seeing the point of having all colorless lands. Am i missing something?
Just wait until he runs into the meta breaking 40 enchantment removal spells deck
Why not crystal grotto in case leyline is removed later in the game as a redundancy to clsoe things out?
This is basically vintage aggrovine, if you can go for a turn 1 vine you always go for a turn 1 vine
Fr I would take out the colorless lands and have a more standard mana-base as backup. But if you wanted to keep with the memes I'd recommend mirrex and creeping inn for more poison and sac outlet for scamp
this deck feels like: choose your options carefully: heads i lose tails you win
I dont think Insidious Roots is better in Timeless for now because we dont have Carrion Feeder (also no Verdant Catacombs).
Honestly replacing 8-12 lands with some basic forests and a pendelhaven would improve the deck significantly.
Maybe put in blossoming defense for extra pump and hexproof for creatures?
I really wanna see this again but with a real functional mana base even though I know that's not really this channels niche
this is hilarious! the most glass cannon of glass cannons
why not run 1 of Darksteel citadel to fetch with Urza's saga to fetch if you still want a land?
this deck seems like it'd be really cool if it were just running some coloured lands honestly
Terror of the Peaks is a $50 card in paper. Seth’s reaction to it wounds me. 😂
This deck is a proof that leyline of the guildpack is broken! Didn't see that coming
I too am surprised that you won even a single match. It feels like this deck would be so frustrating to play(at least add 1 basic forest to the mix, so when you're getting boseju'ed you can still do something)
I don't see how the all-colorless manabase upside is worth the risk. The little buffs they offer in exchange for "if our leyline dies, we lose"? In a disenchant-heavy format? C'mon. Use basic-land-type lands as a backup so the domain-based buffs are still good eventually, get rid of serum powder (catastrophically clogs the deck) and maybe try scion of draco to give everything flying and protection - and then I think you've got something. I love jank, I love that this was an unexpected success, but the deliberate risk seems like nothing more than a flex from the builder.
I feel like this could be a turn 2 or 3 win with a more consistent mana base
18:25
Wow. Using Izzet Charm to deal 2 damage to Glistener Elf instead of countering Blessing. Not the biggest-brain move.
What's the calculator that he always pulls out to work out the odds of drawing a card? Diometric distribution something?
Hypergeometric distribution probability calculator
I am kinda extremely interested in seeing a nykthos, leyline brew. I mean 4 green pips for free could lead to some pretty cool stuff
since we need leyline anyways, shouldnt we have at least a few scion of dracos? the hexproof seems good too
Great, now I have to try Domain Infect but not built to be bad
Risky, but fun! How horribly would Enchantment protection dilute the flow?
Wouldn’t using basic wastes make pump spells go for six?
It’s almost like Seth took a look at the deck and said “naw, it’s to strong. I have to give it a handicap”.
Came prehandicapped when Seth found it.
Should there be 1 Gemstone in the main and 3 in the side? We're already all in why not go full out. Maybe the Grey Havens starts in the board ?
21:04 you could've used faiths shield as it says "Target Permanent," right?
nvm it was a boseiju
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Wouldn't it have been best at 40:45 to put in the Leylines to deal with either the Carrion Feeder or the Insidious roots or both?