The hump insulation also cuts down on the heat tremendously. I noticed it used to get warm to the touch and now it is the same as any other part of the cab.
What's the status of this build 9 months later? Do you still have the truck or have you sold it? I'm in AZ and I'm looking for one. Where did you find yours?
Thanks man, it will be a slow process because of all the other jobs on my plate but im excited for the outcome. Btw i watch alot of your videos, good job on the tracked beast!
Filming episode 2 of this build for a while now. Lots of changes have happened since the last. I’m juggling 8 other projects in the shop so video time Is last
Part 2 is being filmed currently, we had some parts not show up quickly and delayed filming so soon as they get here, ill be able to finish the next video!
IMHO you need more side lateral control of the box. Not so much cause of flex wanting to damage the box.... but solely for safety over time of rounding tilted on/off ramps of highways putting forces on the mounts etc. That is a shiat load of force on each sides 6 bolts. There is a reason similar boxes are usually Ubolted on... this limits front back AND side to side movement. Having this more flexible makes perfect since but you still need lateral control to be pretty much nothing at the mount level. With captured spring.. a simple sliding plate.... one end attached to the box chassis... and other end slides on truck chassis is the most common solution. Box literally has very little movment sideways this way to lessen shear(?) on the bolts. The M1079 has a cup the box side is captured in to prevent lateral motion on one side at least... some doing builds are considering a panhard bar style even. AKA.. if you look close you will find 99.9% of all captured spring mounted boxes have some sort of lateral limiter. Just my .02 of being on the outside looking in at this world for 25+yrs
Not a problem at all, I always appreciate outside input regardless of what it is. This was my first stab at this type of situation and circumstance. I’ve been custom fabricating projects for over 10 years and have a pretty good sense of how to Picture directional loads but a second opinion can definitely see things that I don’t. We’ll see how it works and if we run into any issues, it will be changed. Again thanks for the detailed input!
@@MarcusFryRacing, as long as that box is stiff in torsion, you'll have no issue. The M1079 variant of the S&S LMTV has a similar mounting system with its van body to what you've fabricated. GXV also uses the same system. You will never hear of a 1079 van box with stress cracks from torsion, ever. Some manufacturers like Unicat and others use a "torsion free" 3 point system, but it's overkill for 4x4 LMTV unless you're using a totally composite box. Best test is to flex out the suspension and take a look.
@@ethanturner5567 wellllll..... no not really same. The M1079 does have captured spring system so yes that part is the same.... but it also has a simple well designed? lateral movement limit system built into each captured spring mount. More of a capture spring/captured cup system. The foot of the box mount's; sits in a cup on the chassis mount . With the box sitting settled home on the chassis mount's there is no lateral movement because of how it sits in the cups. In articulation the one side forces the other side into its cup more solidly.... so again no lateral movement........
@@coachgeo, the 1079 system employs 4 captured spring mounts, but they're only 8' apart front to back. And, there is more play in the spring perch/cup than you'd think. The system works very well with the super stiff 1079 Van Body, which is made from aluminum angle, channel, and sheet and bonded and riveted together. The box has basically zero flex. When the chassis is at full flex, two diagonally apposed captured spring mounts almost completed disengage and allow the chassis to do whatever it wants to while the other two mounts hold the 1079 Van Body over the frame rails. It works very well. However, on my 1079, someone removed the two aft captured spring mounts then bolted the rear most frame sections to the secondary chassis frame rails. They then redesigned the forward spring mounts to allow a measured amount of lateral movement. I have seen both systems work in the real world and don't really see a reason why the previous owner thought to modify the OEM 1079 system... IMHO it was a giant waste of time. On ramps and off ramps barely tweak the frame at all. Yes, there is some force there, but well within design parameters. To this day I've never heard of a stress fracture anywhere on a 1079... So, well designed, yes.
What ever happened with this build? I’d like to know where your at with the project. Thanks.
The hump insulation also cuts down on the heat tremendously. I noticed it used to get warm to the touch and now it is the same as any other part of the cab.
Dang you got some cool projects coming through the door!
you got me in the opening with the 510
Haha right on man thank you, There will be a full video of that car on this page in the future
Very interested in this project. Part 2 coming soon?
Where does one buy a used refrigerated box and what's a typical price for a used one in good condition? Looking forward to future videos.
Was just scanning Craigslist and Facebook market place to find what I needed. probably looked at 10 or so different boxes before this one.
What's the status of this build 9 months later? Do you still have the truck or have you sold it? I'm in AZ and I'm looking for one. Where did you find yours?
Same bro. Did you get one? You in the valley or what?
Looking good...keep at it.
Thanks man, it will be a slow process because of all the other jobs on my plate but im excited for the outcome. Btw i watch alot of your videos, good job on the tracked beast!
Looks like a great start! You running stock gearing?
What ever happened to this build out?
Filming episode 2 of this build for a while now. Lots of changes have happened since the last. I’m juggling 8 other projects in the shop so video time Is last
Waiting for part 2
Part 2 is being filmed currently, we had some parts not show up quickly and delayed filming so soon as they get here, ill be able to finish the next video!
IMHO you need more side lateral control of the box. Not so much cause of flex wanting to damage the box.... but solely for safety over time of rounding tilted on/off ramps of highways putting forces on the mounts etc. That is a shiat load of force on each sides 6 bolts. There is a reason similar boxes are usually Ubolted on... this limits front back AND side to side movement. Having this more flexible makes perfect since but you still need lateral control to be pretty much nothing at the mount level.
With captured spring.. a simple sliding plate.... one end attached to the box chassis... and other end slides on truck chassis is the most common solution. Box literally has very little movment sideways this way to lessen shear(?) on the bolts. The M1079 has a cup the box side is captured in to prevent lateral motion on one side at least... some doing builds are considering a panhard bar style even. AKA.. if you look close you will find 99.9% of all captured spring mounted boxes have some sort of lateral limiter.
Just my .02 of being on the outside looking in at this world for 25+yrs
Not a problem at all, I always appreciate outside input regardless of what it is. This was my first stab at this type of situation and circumstance. I’ve been custom fabricating projects for over 10 years and have a pretty good sense of how to Picture directional loads but a second opinion can definitely see things that I don’t. We’ll see how it works and if we run into any issues, it will be changed. Again thanks for the detailed input!
@@MarcusFryRacing, as long as that box is stiff in torsion, you'll have no issue. The M1079 variant of the S&S LMTV has a similar mounting system with its van body to what you've fabricated. GXV also uses the same system. You will never hear of a 1079 van box with stress cracks from torsion, ever. Some manufacturers like Unicat and others use a "torsion free" 3 point system, but it's overkill for 4x4 LMTV unless you're using a totally composite box. Best test is to flex out the suspension and take a look.
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@@ethanturner5567 wellllll..... no not really same. The M1079 does have captured spring system so yes that part is the same.... but it also has a simple well designed? lateral movement limit system built into each captured spring mount. More of a capture spring/captured cup system. The foot of the box mount's; sits in a cup on the chassis mount . With the box sitting settled home on the chassis mount's there is no lateral movement because of how it sits in the cups. In articulation the one side forces the other side into its cup more solidly.... so again no lateral movement........
@@coachgeo, the 1079 system employs 4 captured spring mounts, but they're only 8' apart front to back. And, there is more play in the spring perch/cup than you'd think. The system works very well with the super stiff 1079 Van Body, which is made from aluminum angle, channel, and sheet and bonded and riveted together. The box has basically zero flex. When the chassis is at full flex, two diagonally apposed captured spring mounts almost completed disengage and allow the chassis to do whatever it wants to while the other two mounts hold the 1079 Van Body over the frame rails. It works very well. However, on my 1079, someone removed the two aft captured spring mounts then bolted the rear most frame sections to the secondary chassis frame rails. They then redesigned the forward spring mounts to allow a measured amount of lateral movement.
I have seen both systems work in the real world and don't really see a reason why the previous owner thought to modify the OEM 1079 system... IMHO it was a giant waste of time.
On ramps and off ramps barely tweak the frame at all. Yes, there is some force there, but well within design parameters. To this day I've never heard of a stress fracture anywhere on a 1079... So, well designed, yes.
Yaaaaa lol
Ok, so a school bus muffler is $65 and my car muffler is $200? Wth? : ) Thanks for the video!
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I like you video but you need a to work on your sound can here you.
Cool video
This was one of the first videos we shot and have since upgraded our mics and audio ability.
What happened to this truck??