Dual Hub Motor Skateboard | $315 | Easy Build!
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Building a budget electric skateboard that’s actually pretty good. Save money and build your board your way!
Here are the parts I use for this build:
Dual motor ESC with remote:
www.ebay.com/i...
Hub motors - the ones I used aren’t available anymore. Here are the newer 90mm ones I mentioned:
www.ebay.com/it...
This is the battery used for this build. It looks like HobbyKing might not stock it anymore:
hobbyking.com/...
An alternative is to use two 3S batteries in series - both will fit in the sandwich container.
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Deck and Griptape:
www.skateshred....
skateshred.com also has other skateboard stuff like hardware, risers, and a skate tool.
B6AC v2 LiPo Balance Charger:
www.ebay.com/s...
Parallel Balanced Charging Board:
www.amazon.com...
Sandwich containers:
www.amazon.com...
Screws and washers can be found at most hardware stores like Homedepot:
sheet metal screws: #6 x 3/8” (for screwing the container to the deck)
sheet metal screws: #6 x 1/2” (for mounting ESC)
flat washers: #8
Rotary tool:
www.harborfrei...
You can see my longboard build here:
• Awesome Longboard | 21...
Meepo Board:
meepoboard.com/
I haven’t bought anything from there yet but it looks like a good place to buy a complete board or just components. The battery with case especially looks good.
Music:
"Tussle" Foot Village (freemusicarchive.org)
Hey, incredible video! Small tip that comes from flying rc planes, they make eBay lipo battery voltages that go up to 6 or 8s and have beepers on that you can set low voltage alarms, I generally try to not dip below 3.6 per cell they will last longer than going to 3.3-3.4
Thanks! That's a good idea for extending the life of the battery.
Wow! Awesome build and design! Are u an engineer? I love the Tupperware esc containers idea that is genius!! Well done 👍🏽
There are still some resourceful Americans out there. Good job!
Haha, thanks!
I'm looking for a 10 pound portable 25mph ~8 mile range DIY build. Wish me luck!!! Your video is so informative!!
Nice video, lots of good info. Would be interesting to know how well the PCBs hold up to mechanical stress over time and whether there is any stuff one could do to reduce the impact of that. Similarly I wonder if anyone can think of a source of skinny IP65ish rated enclosures that could be repurposed for housing the components.
Well, damn. That was a revelation. And it cracked me up, seeing those two sandwich holders being used like that. Hilarious yet absolutely brilliant!
Thanks! Yeah, the sandwich containers turned out to be a good fit :)
Hey Oren. Great videos, please keep more electric skateboard builds and reviews coming.
I have also heard of the meopo board and I might get one. I look forward to your review on that. Also Blink s2 vs Meepo 😃😃
Thanks! I'll have more electric skateboard videos soon :)
Hey dude, congrats. nice job! This ESC is the same with my MEEPO BOARD, just that I got the latest version with smart turn on , haha.
Thanks! Yeah, it's a good ESC. Nice you have the newest version. You're doing a great job with the Meepoboard. I know manufacturing isn't easy!
Promo code could help attract customers :))
"Smart turn on" is the feature where the motor automatically turns on once motion is detected?
yes. its the ESC turns on. When ESC sensors motion in motor.
Kieran E-board where can I get the esc with smart turn on without paying your $115 shipping
Thanks for the great vid ! Ive been contemplating what components to use for my first build. this has definitely got me rethinking using hub motors and that ebay esc.
I'm glad the video was helpful! I'm testing a new build I'm working on with the 90mm hub motors and a newer revision of the eBay ESC running at 10S. So far I'm impressed!
Hey man, really enjoyed your videos. Do you mind sharing the wattage of your 83mm hub motors, mine have good torque but max out at only 12mph with a 6S lion
I did a charge n ride with extra battery packs to extend my range on my electric unibike and EUC through the charging port. I’m wondering if I can do the same for my electric skateboard as the charger goes directly into the battery with a DC power plug? My electric board supposed goes up to 12 miles but I want to extend it to 20 miles.
Hubmotors with flange and 3 screws may not be as durable as hubmotor with shaft.
The truck may break easier.
I just put together my new build using the same 90mm motors as the Meepoboard. They are very nice! The 83mm motors I used in the video have been holding up well, but I agree the 90mm motors with the shaft are better.
Yeah Kieran got your board beat lol
@@orensprojects7250 I have the same 90mm as in this video. I run at 36 volts but I seem to get much more hill climb and top speed than in your video. I've had all setups belt, direct, one, dual. These by far the best and cheapest. I suppose its possible mine are different even though they look identical. I enjoyed your video.
Eagerly waiting for you next video on 90mm wheels! If you like them, I'll get it for my first electric skateboard! (probably going to use ESC from Meepo website)
Thanks! The motors are nice. I'm working on editing the video for that build now. It should be up soon. That's awesome you're planning to build your board!
You can get those same hub motors significantly cheaper from Meepo boards. The shippping is high like it is for the ebay ones but the motors are only $40 a piece and the truck is dirt cheap too. They have the same speed control with remote for about the same price. I imagine you'll save $30-50 bucks going through Meepo.
Buying from Meepo is a good option. The price will probably be close to the same as eBay if you also include the front truck and wheels ($40 for each motor, probably around $20 for rear truck, maybe around $30 for the front wheels, truck, and hardware). That'll probably add up to around $130, like eBay. The shipping used by "eboard-shop" on eBay is a bit expensive at $43, but arrived at my door around 4 or 5 days after I placed the order. It's great there are multiple options for buying these components at such a good price!
Have you heard of Mellowdrive; where the power system is there and you can put it on most if not all boards? I'm building my own, it's going to be an over engineered project with four 6374 motors and 12s4p battery and four VESC's....
I saw the 2WD Mellowdrive before. I didn't realize they're making a 4WD version. It seems nice but very expensive. I think building your own is best.
Hey thanks for all the help!!! Your videos a amazing!! Just put my hub board together! Using two 5s batt. ! Any suggestion for longer range? Think mine is only getting 8miles
Thanks for kind words! That's awesome you built your board! If you want longer range I think the 5S/5Ah batteries are the biggest I've commonly seen (and will fit well under the board). I was getting around 8 miles using two 5S/3Ah batteries - so the 5Ah should be a big improvement. Also, push starting and trying to find the smoothest parts of the road helps. Here is the link hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-battery-5000mah-5s-20c-lipo-pack-xt-90.html
Loved the video, built one myself, but i wish replaceable batteries was something i thought of.
Thanks! A replaceable battery is definitely nice to have when you need extra range. However, I rarely ride long enough to fully drain the battery. The good thing about building your board is you can always modify it!
I'm planning a build with the odrive controller. It has support for up to 48v and dual motor control for only $150. You should check them out.
Thanks! I'll check it out. Might be good for a super powerful board.
Are you removing the battery when charging it?
That is a wicked build for the price my friend! You mentioned the braking was a little lacking. In regards to esc's and braking did you prefer the VESC or the ESC? Great work, I think I may build a new board now, haha.
- Neil
Thanks! Yeah, I think building is the best way to go. I definitely like the braking better on the VESC, mainly because I can configure it to whatever I like. The VESC is VERY configurable and higher quality, but more than 4x the price (you need 2 VESC + remote). The VESC is a good choice if you like tuning your board and want to experiment with different voltages and setups. The dual ESC I'm using in this video is actually an older revision. I think the braking is a bit stronger on the newer ones. Also, I think different motors will brake differently, so it's difficult to predict exactly what the braking will be like. I'm working on a build now with a newer version of the dual ESC and the 90mm motors I showed in the video. Once that's done I'll be able to compare.
I'm riding on an ESC and VESC on 2 boards I currently have. I'm not a big fan of the breaking on the ESC but like you mentioned the flexibility of the VESC is so choice! Building is such a better experience then out of the box for sure. DIY isn't for everyone but it's really so rewarding. I compare DIY to Full builds like a modified Camero vs a one size fits all Toyota Camry. Please keep posting videos. I'm a big fan of the medium as it takes work to go that extra step to get behind a camera (in addition to building your own board). Let's stay in touch!
- Neil
Nice! I think most people that build boards end up with more than one because they get so into it :). I just started testing a new build with the 90mm motors and a newer version of the ESC. The braking is definitely better now!
90mm motors! That is huger 🤓 I would love to give those motors a go. Please update us when you get there. Yeah, I love the DIY perspective as variety makes for a better world! Even if you don't build a whole new board you can update the one you have. Again, great video and hope to see more from you soon!
- Neil
So, 36volt motors and 36v esc can handle max 8s or 10s?
If i build a 6s board, and later decide to upgrade to 10s do I need to buy a new ESC, or will this ESC work with both 6s and 10s?
Lol I cant believe you keep using those fugly brittle sandwich boxes. Lots of good info though man Thanks!
Hi! I have broken Acton Blink S, planning to convert it to a single belt driven, would like to ask for your advice. Thanks
Great video, really broke it down. Thanks man!
Thanks! I hope it was helpful.
Hey Oren, I followed all the steps in your build but I have having a problem with my remote--it keeps disconnecting. The motors will run fine but when I stand on the board it will accelerate briefly and then disconnect. Any ideas of what is happening?
Hey, were you able to solve this issue? Im thinking about buying a board like this an it seems like something to consider
I had to come back with a question. Can that ESC use any number of 18650 cells or does it have a voltage limit? I hope that question is understandable. I'm not an EE. Thanks.
The ESC can be configured to 6, 7, or 10 cells in series (max voltage of 25.2V, 29.4V, or 42V). Changing the voltage requires a bit of tricky soldering so you can request it in the voltage you need when you order. I talk about it around 11:14. Hope this helps.
Oren's Projects Thanks for replying. I'm an idiot. Rewatching the video, I see that was mentioned. *kicks self*
This is a very good price to build but you can get better quality parts if you do some research I found that hobby kings rc motors and esc is very powerful and better quality then what you have used but overall it's up to you to decide
Thanks for the feedback. I agree it's good to do research. There are always new electric skateboard parts being released. For my newer builds I've switched to using 10S voltage, which I don't think Hobbyking has good ESC options for.
Bro this is awesome!
Thanks!
Just subed , awesome setup man
Thanks for the support!
what is the weight on this set up? very interested in doing that set up, it's looks great
Thanks! I don't remember the exact weight of that build. I'd guess around 12-13 lbs. Those dual hub motors and the battery make it difficult to get the weight down.
11:09 What brand/make is that receiver you have connected to your VESC? I'm building a single VESC-equiped belt-driven board and wanted to re-use a spare remote (same as what you have) from my diyeboard kit. Thanks!
The remote I use with the VESCs is different than the one that comes with the dual ESC. The receiver is built into the board of the dual ESC and it comes with its own remote. The remote I'm using with the VESC is made by a company called Winning. Similar to this one:
www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-2-4Ghz-Wireless-Remote-Controller-Receiver-for-Electric-Skateboard-ESC/182791845715
Yep....those are the same Motors as the meepo....not sure if it's the same Ecs though. Nice video!
Thanks! Yeah, the ESCs look very similar visually but I'm not sure about how it's programmed. I've ordered a few ESCs from the guy on ebay and they've changed a bit with each revision.
Nice nollie over the crack!!
Thanks! It took a few tries :) Electric skateboards are much heavier.
Is the battery connected to the esc with only the one black and red cord? Also, if I were to use 2 3s batteries, how would I charge them
Yes, there is only 1 battery connector on the ESC. If you use 2 batteries then you'll also need a xt-60 series connector (the link is in the description for the connector). You can charge them using a parallel charging board. I show this in my newer video at around 8:43 ua-cam.com/video/qdylrv1iSHI/v-deo.html. You can search for videos on how to parallel charge - like this ua-cam.com/video/7wj-EB4-71M/v-deo.html. You can also use 10S (2 5S) batteries if you want more power and speed. The only difference is you need to specify 10S when you order the ESC and you'll have to mount the batteries differently (like in my longboard build).
best video i have ever seen
Thanks! I appreciate the encouragement :)
Do the screws to secure the containers come out on the other side of the board?
The 1/2" screws I use don't go through the boards (there is also a washer and the thickness of the container). I use 6 to 8 screws and it seems more than strong enough.
Very well explained.
Thank you!
nice video :)
i cant find any information about the esc.
can you send me an link to the information you showed in the video at 11:17.
that would be very helpfull.
Thanks
Thanks! The ebay listing has a picture and the description says which connections to make.
www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-motors-longboard-skateboard-control-modula-ESC-Substitute-with-remote/323326552273
The connections are very small so the soldering can be tricky. I hope this helps.
I have the same problem, for 10s am I supposed to solder the 2 pieces off?
Meepo now sells individual parts. I'd buy the battery compartment instead of using something so flimsy
Thanks for the feedback. The Meepo container is nice but it's not easy to open for battery swapping. I'm always looking for better solutions.
I'm too dumb (and lazy) guess kieren at meepo is going to get my money
Do you know of any dual motors which cost the same price now? these ones cost like 200 bucks with shipping.
The price difference between the orange 83mm motors I use in this video and the newer black 90mm motors isn't that big. The 83mm are $130, but don't include the front trucks and wheels. The 90mm are $173 (incl. shipping) and include the front trucks and wheels. Also, the 90mm motors are definitely higher quality and support 10S voltage. You can also check meepoboard.com or diyeboard.com to see if they have a better deal.
How do you pair the remote to the board? That part i dont understand or maybe you said it in another video and i missed it, sorry
The eBay listing (or wherever you buy the board) should explain how to pair the remote to the ESC - there are a few steps to follow. However, I've bought several of these ESCs and the remote was already paired when I got them. I updated the eBay link to the ESC in the description. I think the old link expired. Hope this helps.
I have the same problem. I've tried following the instructions but without any success.
if I wanted to use belt motors would it be the same process but just switching the motors?
Yes, the process is basically the same. The dual ESC I use here is available in a hub motor and brushless motor version. For a belt system, you should get the brushless version.
This might sound odd for this video but his voice made me feel like I was watching a Bob Ross video. Big thumps up on the video though, wasn't all that complicated and super easy to follow along. Not sure how much I trust Ebay for my parts but still good to know!
I haven't heard the Bob Ross comparison before. His paintings are nice :). I'm glad the video was helpful! I was suspicious of the ebay parts at first but they were much cheaper. I figured they were worth trying and they turned out ok. Meepoboard and diyeboard.com are also selling similar parts.
Are there any trucks for 83mm hub motors? I have the hub motors with square then circle in the middle.
I think Maytech sells the trucks you're describing with the square center.
www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Maytech-70mm-and-90mm-hub-motor-wheel-longboard-truck-for-eletric-skateboard/1630416_32772235268.html
If you contact the seller on eBay that I got the motors and ESC from he might also be able to get you trucks like that.
Oren's Projects yes that is exactly what i was talking about.oh man shipping is expensive.... do you think that I could make my own?
You could make your own with an angle grinder. Kaspars Dambis did a good job in his video ua-cam.com/video/Sjut8hVuLWM/v-deo.html
Yeah, shipping is expensive. If you contact Maytech they might have some cheaper shipping options. Also, you can try contacting the eBay seller of the motors and ESC I linked to in the description. He might be able to get them.
THANKS REALLY UNDERSTOOD THE WIRING JOB.....
Awesome!
LiHV batteries should be able to charge to 4.35v per cell
dude sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
What do you use to connect the 2 batteries and the esc?
And what does the esc beeping mean
This build only has 1 battery, so I just plug it in directly to the ESC. When there are 2 batteries, like in the longboard build, I use a series connector. hobbyking.com/en_us/xt60-series-adaptor-2pcs-per-bag.html
One reason the ESC beeps is when the battery voltage is too low, and the battery needs to be recharged
Does the esc have a xt60 or xt90 connector?
The ESC has a xt60 connector (the smaller one).
what charger should i use with this setup?
I added links in the description to what I use. The balance charging board is only needed if you use multiple batteries.
B6AC v2 LiPo Balance Charger:
www.ebay.com/sch/b6ac+v2
Parallel Balanced Charging Board:
www.amazon.com/Weyland-Parallel-Balanced-Rechargeable-Expansion/dp/B06XW6XCZ3/ref=sr_1_4
meepo board is cheaper or is this somehow better ?
The meepoboard is about the same price when you include shipping. What I like about custom builds is you can choose parts you like. I prefer the drop-through deck and non-abrasive grip tape in this build. Also, the battery setup I used is easier to interchange for long rides. If you prefer something already built, I think meepo is a great option. Meepo also sells the motors, ESC, and battery at a good price if you want a custom board.
@@orensprojects7250 I tried looking for the meepo board website you reference at the end where we can buy individual parts. May you provide link?
I would paint in black those boxes to make it cooler ;)
Yes, black would be cool :). I should at least take the sandwich labels off. One nice thing about leaving the case clear is I can easily see the lights to check if the board is on.
Isn't dickyho actually Jason Volans from diyeboard.com?
I don't know. If he speaks fluent English than probably not. I've emailed back and forth with Dicky Ho and Engligh is definitely not his first language. It looks like diyeboard.com sells parts similar to Dicky Ho, Meepoboard, and others. I wonder who's the source manufacture for those ESCs and motors.
Can you make its speed 40km/h
The similar 10S build in my longboard video can go about 35 kmh (21 - 22 mph)
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Yeaa new upload
with the exact same weight i made an 82 cm aluminium longboard with 30km/h 30km range
what parts did u use. I know this is very very very late
@@offbrandb7194 i used turnigi sk2 5055 outrunner brashless motor, 6s 120amp 1/8 car ESC for controling the motor, rc car remote + reciver (all from hobbyking)
18 pices of LG hg2 18650 li-ion configured in 6series 3 paralel battery pack. I use rc smart charger. I did almost 4000 km or 2500miles.the datteries ar degrading fast becose i charged them oll the time at 4.19 volts per cell.
Is it waterproof tho
If the openings in the battery and ESC containers are sealed better it should be waterproof. Right now I'd say it's splash resistant.
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Oren's Projects it rains a bunch where I live so yeah...
Super cool Oren!
Thanks for sharing.
there is just no reason to pay 2000usd for an eboard!
well done.
don't forget the helmet next time ; )
Thanks! Yes, there are so many less expensive options now. You're right, I should wear a helmet :)
Ordered the same esc and wheels with this shop. Went through 3 esc already. One becasue of shortcut by power button touching the esc, stupid i know, and an other one because i did something wrong soldering the wire of power button which came loose. Now the esc is dead again even when i got a new power button. Have a 2x5s battery with it and top speed is about 40 km/h. Board rides smooth and can't wait till i can ride it again. So frustrating. ....
Those 90mm motors are fast at 10S! One of the wires on the power button of my ESC got disconnected too. I was able to solder it back on and it's working fine now. I think those wires are kind of fragile so it helps to make sure the motor wires are out of the way and not hitting the back of the switch when the board bounces around while riding. I've burned out a motor once so I know how frustrating it is waiting for replacement parts!
Some UA-cam account that goes by Ivan kashevarov reposted one of your videos. You should copy strike or something
Can you make it faster
It can't be configured to go any faster using 6S. It might be a bit faster if I reconfigure to 10S. I'm not sure if the motors on this board can handle that through. Checkout my longboard build for a faster board.
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I’m building an electric skateboard Can I get your email so we can email back and furth so I make sure I get everything right?
That's awesome you're building your board! You can send me a direct message if you're logged into UA-cam and click the "About" tab on my channel. Then click the message icon under "Stats".
Can’t find the message button
Noah Petteys You have to be on Pc
Chill elon musk.
Wel u could buy a boosted board mini for 312$
no you cant, it starts at $750
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Thanks!
DECK IS SO BAD LOL
Haha, I was trying to get something close to a small standard skateboard for that build.