The Philosophy of THE PLATFORM Explored
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2020
- The Platform is a 2019 Spanish psychological thriller directed by Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia, following an attempted escape of a large, tower-style "Vertical Self-Management Center".
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*"You're not you when you're hungry"*
- Snickers
That slogan has never made more sense lol.
wow so true. lol
Youre not you when youre homeless
Just get a House
- 4House
maybe hunger show us who we really are.
You're aloud to bring one thing with you in the platform. One guy brought a surfboard.
This, wtf smh
If he had brains he would of brought a pogo stick.
Another guy brought a kiddie pool
10:48 . . .😂
I wonder why don't they bring electronics...
Allowed*
It's all fun and games until Matt Stonie becomes a resident of the first floor.
Underrated comment
@@Poouhf won't be for long
😂🤣 if you know, you know
God tear comment👌
Oh shit
This is how you make a movie with a message. Do not lecture your audience. Make them reflect on the themes of the movie.
Most importantly it didnt hijack a franchise, its a unique movie.
don't explain it, show it!
This film is trying to show how people at top of society can do to people in the middle and low income people can do
Given the authority and power to do so
For me, it sort of explains why a government exist for a reason and why we voye for our leaders
As they have the power and authority
As they are the ones that makes laws and make people follow them
Without these people
Its like how the film show people's morality can afact others way below by their own beliefs and ideals
Like how terrorists forcefully imposed their own laws based own their own set of beliefs and ideals towards others
This movie just makes us reflect on ourselves that what a system of social classes can do to people
And how they will react to it in their own ways of solving a problem
This movie gave me enlightenment. I can't drive down the streets without picturing this movie as I see the homeless man walking next to me, the lambo driving on the other side, me in the middle.
@@gwarguraqueentrickstarcoat9110 To me it's a perfect example that Socialism and Communism can't and never will work. Because no matter how just or fair the cause may be you will eventually face someone that refuses to surrender their privileges and when you force them you're just an authoritarian and no better than those whose mind you wish to change.
I disagree that this movie depicts capitalism, maybe in a mirror image, but it skips the fact that there are people that were born without privileges, but rose to fame/power/wealth against all odds.
So in short there must and always will exist class structures, because the alternative can only be authoritarianism.
Damn, shits crazy. I love movies with these kinds of concepts. Makes you think.🤔
Our future is dark, grim, dystopian as this is the price for a globalized interconnected world we lived.
Oh I wish we could go back in the days where even the world is an unforgiving place, at least you have the freedom to go anywhere, be adventurous and drink lots of beer till you die.
Yes me too man me too
@Micah Mcgaffin 🤓Lol 😆I know right.
I love movies like this. Morality plays like 1984 and animal farm, both by George Orwell. Spanish cinema is underrated.
But still some people think this is about capitalism. This is anti communist imo.
@@gingerbred2533Also the creator has said it’s a criticism of our current society ,now he doesn’t believe the solution is communism or socialism as he states in interviews and the communist in the show is the mc who realizes enforcing communism requieres violence which is against his ideals.
A starving person will probably go beyond morality just to get food and comfort.
There's no "probably" about it.
But only one way to find out.
I promise you, we all have it in us to become monsters under the right (or wrong) circumstances.
Best interpretation yet by far. Thank you for putting so much thought into this, beyond what I was able to understand. This movie really impacted me and now I know why exactly.
Despite the main characters ideology and self determined superior sense of justice he’s changing nothing. He’s just a hamster on a wheel in this system thats actually controlled by people he can’t see or do anything about. You can’t change circumstances of the system and force people to be good. You can only choose to be good where you are.
Its a belief that ppl have good in them and we can be a shining beacon of hope to others and that others will see the truth and join them in the good fight to everyones benefits. We can only hope by showing an example.
@@brian5682 Yeah but he didn’t. He said you’ll be good or get the club thinking he was making a difference all the while he is in a system that no one inside it can change or be allowed to change. Even if he was on level 1 he would still be inside the system controlled by others outside of it he cannot see.
Our future is dark, grim, dystopian as this is the price for a globalized interconnected world we lived.
Oh I wish we could go back in the days where even the world is an unforgiving place, at least you have the freedom to go anywhere, be adventurous and drink lots of beer till you die.
@@MarcusSoulCombos would u accept ur fate and die on ur knees or would u go down fighting trying to make a change. Anyhow also you'll die but at least u tried thats what the main protagonist tried to do. What is needed is awareness and participation of more good samaritans in the good fight.
@@brian5682 don't submit to the mask
The plot reminds me of “the tragedy of the Commons,” when there was communal pasture in Colonial villages where one could graze their horses or livestock for free. It only worked if everyone used it infrequently, but most everyone thought “others shouldn’t over do it, but it is okay if I use it more than I should,” leading to the pasture being turned into overgrazed, barren dirt no one could use.
That's actually an economic issue you learn at school too, the tragedy of the commons
it sounds like the tragedy of the toilet paper...
The first few minutes helped me understand the Stone Soup story because I heard of it but never the actual story before. Also I love the imagery you used for if Niyat lol
The one detail I see missed is how the interviewer was wrong about how many floor were in the tower. I submit all information she gives is either half truths or wrong as she was not accurately informed of the tower. It seems the marylin Monroe wanna be actually did have a kid. I think she rode the platform to the bottom each month to bring food of any sort, I.e. human flesh if needed, and would spend the rest of the month with her child.
The kid wasn’t real
Actually the scene where there is no sound you see panacota reach the 0 floor and there is no child because the child thing was just a imagination of a dying man , and the director confirmed it
@@narcick1018 What scene? The one where the rich man is mad at the cooks? Did the director confirm that in some interview?
@@rebeccaed2018 yea at the start of the movie it shows panacota being untouched so that means the girl isnt real anyeays because there was a scene where the girl ate the panacota, and he confirmed it in a tweet
@@narcick1018 do you have a link to that tweet? it doesn't make sense that the panacota survived on the way up considering how fast that platform was moving, also there was a deleted scene where the girl did arrive at the top.
Remember that one movie The Cube. Another thought I had is when people try to make an agreement for trickle down economics.
Obviously
Interesting... "Trickle down economics" is a falsehood promoted by Marxists to explain capitalism.
@@anthonyoer4778 lol.
@@anthonyoer4778 wrong..
If you like this and Cube; check out Circle. pretty good
My friend recommended this and then we watched it, he is a good friend, obviously
Another great video. This is one of a handful of channels that legitimately get excited when a new video is up. Please, keep up the amazing work.
My kindergarden class made stone soup. It was the best soup I've ever had.
🥕
In Russia we have similar story,only it was a soldier,who cook porridge from the axe.
This is the most Russian thing possible. Beautiful
In Mother Russia, axe cook you.
Absolutely loved this movie, and your explanation. Keep up the good work!
Interesting
A society grows great when men plant trees in which shadow they will never sit.
I calculated that you would need about 2 million calories to feed everyone on all the floors with a sufficient amount of food.
I don't think that's fitting on that table.
Ngl in this situation I don't think anyone is entitled to 3000 calories, only the bare minimum they need to survive. So if we calculate with say, 800 calories (yes very little in normal circumstances but the circumstances in the movie were anything but normal) they'd need 532800 calories on the table.
heck, i don't think the platform fits more than 50 meals anyway. no way that was all the food for that many people.
i think for movie's sake they made the platform small tho, i don't think that was intentional
He protect, He attack but more importantly he gives everyone a snack
even the title of the movie itself speaks - where ever class you are in, you have your own responsibilities and willpower to use whatever PLATFORM you have to ensure goodness for all humankind
I didn't think of that!
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Man this movie has been bouncing around the Internet for a bit...
VIRUS OUTBREAK yo mommas been bouncing around the internet for a bit 😎
KillerJuiceMix very mature
VIRUS OUTBREAK haha gottem 😩😂
KillerJuiceMix 🙄. Someone is going to be reading this and think this is scripted for how cringe and some what unoriginal it is...
@@killerJuiceMix oooOooOOoOh Shots fired 🔫💥💥💥
I watched this movie while walking a marathon on a treadmill.
The Tower and it's levels was a brilliant depiction of Class Pyramid and the use of visceral gore (cannibalism, defacation, mutilation) was totally relevant to the plot and psychological swings with the protagonist.
Remember watching this and enjoying the idea behind it. Makes you wonder what would you do in this situation
I'll do something and even die for it.
I would rather not lived in that kind of twisted situation.
i think the scariest part is not being able to TRULY know until one is there.
I saw it more as a critique of human nature... so long as were doing alright as individuals we dont seem to care about those below us, some want to change that but ultimately its immposible to bestow our will and way of thinking on others.
it’s funny that you say that because you are doing exactly what the director wouldn’t want you to do. he said himself he wants people to reflect on the system, by blaming the people within it you are perpetuating the exact like of thinking that would keep a system like the platform going.
we can choose to control what we can from where we are.
the shadow of what can not be changed goes hand in hand with the light of what can.
the wrongs of the collective do not absolve or rob the individual of the responsibility and opportunity to do the right thing, IMO.
☯️ ❤ 🤝🏼
Probably one of the best movies that I have ever seen, this film captures the true colors of our disgraceful society.
Yep so very true. If only everyone can honestly work together to change our state of society
I really enjoyed this movie, and of all the videos I've seen talking about its meaning, this is my favorite by far. Always a pleasure, dude.
Wonderful video about the platform. There is so much to study and learn from that movie, but you did a great job of explaining it.
I love this channel, he makes great videos.
one of the best sum ups ive found so far! still so many things to talk about, i love the depth of this movie!
Great analysis mate!
Get on that Dialectical Materialism boiiii
I click your videos because even if I haven't seen the movie it's usually a good editorial on why it's a good watch. I didn't know "El hoyo" was the platform in English and was pleasantly surprised
There are 3 people in this world
Those below
Those above
And those who fall
Quote slaps harder than my mom's belt
Your videos have been getting so much better!
My father recently watched movie and I really need to ask him what he thought of it. But this is a good philosophical look on the dynamic and the system of The Platform. Nice work.
Im so happy you did this i was gonna suggest it since i just watched!
There is one yet significant difference with an analogy of societal structure.
In a working-class society, people add value by contributing their goods and services. In a way, this keeps the system in check by enforcing mutual reliance among its different layers.
In the movie, the prisoners were not contributing anything. They have nothing to offer but their behavior!
However, movie does an excellent job at portraying the society during despair and distress! Excellent thought-provoking movie!
For everyone confuse about the ending I leave you with a this:
“last shall be first and the first last”
Its our society in a nutshell is what I get from this movie, not knowing what you getting into ,your born on a level between the upper,middle ,and lower class , and when your on top you know the horrors below but rather think of oneself than try and find a seat to help , kind of like the poor me poor me speech, only to return to the bottom and suffer just the same when you take what you had for granted. Middle class see a small portion of the upper class and the lower , alright and accepting where they are but still think they are better than lower class, the lower class the poor the sick the rejected are where the horrors of humanity are and survival. The true dog eat dog comes into play , humanity becomes lost . I'd go into further elaborate details on how its our system of government and society but rewatch with an open mind and question why why why ??? .
I try to watch movies on Netflix I wouldn't normally gravitate towards, this was one of them. I really enjoyed it. Thankfully there were videos out there to help me understand it, then rewatched and thought "Ooooh, I get it now." Heck I may watch it again because of your video.
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Duke Nukem in the Hole:
TIme to eat everyone!
For anyone who hasn't seen it, definitely give it a watch. It's really well done.
I honestly have to stop this video around 3 minutes in because I've never heard of this movie and I need to watch it before I finish this video. This looks amazing!
GREAT VIDEO MY FRIEND, LOVE UR WORK.
I remember this movie it was insane.
Enjoyed this breakdown
Thank you for properly explaining, most channels simply summarize the film
Excellent Niyat!!
This looks mega, added it to my playlist.
What an interesting and insightful treatise!
Goes to prison to “quit smoking and read Don Quixote?” Not a smoker, but seems like deprivation, prison violence and hunger wouldn’t make quitting smoking easier.
Chances are it'll make him quit smoking and pick up some harder shit 😂😂
This movie teach me the "trickle down economic" is BS!! 😂😂😂
You are big brain. I am sure everybody around you has told you that! /s
Saw this on Netflix, excellent film!
This is one of my favorite movies of all time
Love you niat!
That statement from the director at the end is deep af.
This honestly is very much reflective on society. The rich and powerful enforce ideas and principles through force and never let the ones below them reap a reward they got. Alienating them from the experience the rich and powerful had gotten. I wouldve loved if they made an arch in this movie or a sequel where the idea of socialism being presented was made through everyone, but a few individuals abused the system to equally starve out everyone who still is persistent in sharing. Then making it very much a prequel to this movie. It would make a conundrum where sharing the food makes everyone equally susceptible to the same weakness and mediocrity in power or looking out for yourself against the masses would sometimes put you at the top or all the way at the bottom. Averaging out your place equally to if you were in the opposite system, but with no weakness and very inconsistent levels of power over people.
I thought it was interesting to note how bad the odds were though. only about 100 levels got any food at all, leaving 233 levels to starve. so people don't have an equal chance of being at the top (able to eat) vs at the bottom (starving) in this system, they have a 70% chance of ending up on a starvation level. it's insane that trimagasi the old man ended up on levels above 100 most of the time (Trimagasi woke up on 72 then, 26, 78, 43, 11, 79, 32, 8, 132, 48 with main character, 172 and then died). he was insanely lucky. statistically most people ended up on a level below 100 multiple times in a row and died. which I guess is like how statistically most of the world is poor
@@user-mt2co8ip4uthere is also the idea that the level redistribution may not be entirely random. maybe it's linked to the willingness to kill to survive.
I finally have a laptop and I began watching films, which I don't do, due to this channel
The perfect film explaining modern corporate hierachy, shit always flows down and nothing will ever change the cogs of society.
so you cant i dont know start a business and make money or buy land and farm or run for office
But can you put your grocery cart back after shopping? 😅
Those ending words really hit home
Yessss thanks for this I just saw the movie literaly yesterday
I didn’t watch this movie/show and I’ve been waiting for you to make your análisis just so I can learn about it lol
8:00 i fucking died when i saw this LOL
@ 14:15, you mentioned that no matter how hard you fight for the cause, it is not always about him, which reminds me of Lockdown from Transformers: Age of Extinction, where he says" The trouble with loyalty to a cause, is that the cause will always betray you"
Another great video for another great movie... Obviously.
Gonna be nice to hear you talk about "Doctor Sleep"!
God, Knee ant, I love your analysis of movies
Is it weird that I had a dream similar to this movie long before its release?
Yes
Yes
Niyat, do a video on the killer lions from The Ghost And The Darkness.
There were lions, they attacked some train workers, some guys hunted them down.
Pedazo de peliculón. No me arrepiento de haberlo visto 3 veces jajajajaj
excellent assessment
spot on bro👌😎
pyrocynical did a good video about this, now you're making this too ? dang it'll be a great saturday night for me
No
Let the first 150 share the food on one day and on the next, only level 151 and lower get to eat. The upper and lower half’s each get the same amount of food but, obviously there’s no way to enforce it
Everyone should watch this movie
If they dont we hit them with a metal bar.
Jeez man this is a super heavy movie
Great and quite complete analysis of the political side of the movie.
I am slightly disappointed by the lack of analysis regarding the religious symbolism (333*2 levels, parts of the bible, the last / favorite meal, the most precious thing prisoners decide to bury / bring with them... The pit is like a purgatory and the old guy above makes me think of a benevolent but ignorant god with the chiefs being his angels)
I know the "stone soup" story! But it's an axe soup, instead of a stone - a local variant, I guess (it was used in a fairy tail, too)... And they say you can't learn anything new from watching youtube, lol
Very scary yet interesting story
Maybe this movie means nothing maybe this is hell
Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.😉
Its about time
I like to think the chefs are competing against other teams of chefs each of them serving a different pit and the winning team get their freedom
the REAL Hell's Kitchen
I have got to admit that I was not able to sleep peacefully for a day or two after watching this film. It was horrifying, yet somehow still managing to be poetical and provoking. The scene when they are descending down the levels protecting the food and they come across the cell of the sick old man and a young man with downs syndrome was gut wrenching. The way the specially abled guy talks about ripping open up the old man's belly to eat what they are feeding him was just too dark.
I also wasn't able to sleep after watching this film. it seems like every person has a moment that stuck with them from this film. the moment with the down's syndrome prisoner was definitely horrifying and devastating, it shows how even the most marginalised people will turn on another if the opportunity presents itself. personally the thought that stayed with me was that both trimagasi and goreng at their times of death respectively were a month away before freedom. it makes me think about how futile life can be, after horrible suffering you think you're finally going to make it only for freedom to be snatched away when you're so close to it
perhaps death can be seen as it's own freedom.
Such a good film
U should do a video on the movie "the circle"
Actually there is no problem, because "dictatorship" decisions is right and benefits all people below. 7:50
Wow!
What is the music called?
You deserve millions of subs. Keep up the good work, sir
I appreciate that!
a communist with my family, a socialist with my friends, a Republican in local and state government, and a libertarian in federal government.
Sounds about right.
In a world with GLOBAL COMMUNICATION, GLOBAL HUMANITARIAN IDEALS, GLOBAL ACCESS TO INFORMATION, GLOBAL COMMUNITIES, GLOBAL LANGUAGE WITH UNDERSTANDABLE TRANSLATIONS, AND GLOBAL ONENESS... ULTRANATIONALISTIC tendencies are a thing of the past.
@@abramrexjoaquin7513 Can you please speak up? We can't hear you.
@Brandon Toad k
I called this video a month or so ago. Hell yeah
Somebody must have just watched the episode of "Mister Rogers' Neighborhood", with the lady visiting Mr. Rogers & telling the "Stone Soup" story.... Lol....
The cube, the circle, the platform
What doesn't make sense is that the girl could've done that on her own...
She could see there was no level below her and after days of being hungry she would've hopped on and been sent down and then up again. How did the admin know if someone kept food? How would they know if someone was still alive in each cell?
mass surveillance 😉
People above: "This is some gourmet shit."
People on the lowest: "Ayy bro, can I eat you?"
have you reviewed Inception?
I want the Samurai Plus....