@@bobbyhernandez9756 the quote refers to how life itself is full of ups and downs and how people can go from a good standing to a not-so-good situation really fast. And it shows who exactly is going to be there for you when you fall on hard times. As for ascending up the ladder, its important to recognize the people who are in less fortunate situations than you are and to be kind and help in some way, regardless of your own standing.
@@bobbyhernandez9756 or since this film is obviosly brain dead basic comunist analogy of how society is working.... Without intervention of central force them.... .. Just dont be dump and choose insidose institucion runing social experiments without any control in the first place.....
@@damianpos8832 no ones brave enough to be sent all the way to the bottom since they understand no one gets food. And if t by ey try they could be killed for their flesh as sustenance for others
@@bobbyhernandez9756 film was basic political massage.... Wrong one btw.... even plot on its own doesnt make sanse biggest plot holes.are ... Why choose this vertical center instead of others as a place to serve your sentence... Or even place to get uniqe experienceLike showed with that female actor. Thats dump.... And Why not take platforms UP???? The killer girl did go on round trips on the platform since the begining????.. Stupidity was virtue in this movie
The scariest thing about seeing somebody commit suicide by jumping down the hole? They were on a higher level than you and still decided they'd rather die.
There’s 333 floors...each floor presumably holds 2 people... The facility can hold 666 people...strange coincidence for the people to call the pit a hell hole...
They made biblical references too in the movie, like reading the verses from the Last Supper part in bible, so I wasn't surprise tbh. But for me the real cliché part was the guy who took money for his item. They reeally wanted to send a message there..
333 floors. Each floor has 2 people. 333*2=666 There is 666 items on the platform and If people eat what they ask for in the QNA instead of eating each other’s food, the food would reach the bottom. But the point of this movie is people only care about themselves instead of each other. That’s why the food only last to level maybe 70 smh.
I dont think the little girl was imaginary. Goreng believed all along that Miharu's child was a boy, therefore it makes no sense that he would imagine a girl to appear.
Its too coincidental that the food chosen as message is the same that was found with a hair. It looks like the movie starts with the end, and if the panacota actually went up, it means that the little girl never really existe bc she didnt eat it
@@rippintires2252 i will leave you a quote said director from the director that appears in a little analysis from the movie, in the end i will leave you the link, but the Page is in spanish: 《There are three indications that lead to opting for the pessimistic interpretation. · The information provided by Imoguiri (Antonia San Juan): ensures that she accepted Miharu in the hole ten months ago, that she was carrying a ukulele and that no one under 16 years of age can enter. · What you see in the movie: if we mistrust Imoguiri's words (after all, she was wrong about the number of levels of the hole; she thought there were 200, when she discovers that there are more, she commits suicide), we can refer to what the film shows. A scolding from the chef to his kitchen team for a pannacotta with a hair on it. Although the scene appears long before the end in the narrative, chronologically it can be placed as a conclusion. That would be the panna cotta that Goreng and Baharat sent back, only the chef thinks that it has not been eaten because it was a hair. · What the director of El hoyo, Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia, says. "For me, the last level does not exist. Goreng dies before arriving, and what we see is his interpretation of what he would have done," according to the Bilbao filmmaker in an interview with The Digital Spy. "I wanted the ending to be open to interpretation, as if the plan really works or if the people above even care about those in the hole." "I leave what happens to each one's imagination," reflects the director. Not without first ensuring that an alternative ending was filmed that was very different from his own interpretation. "We shot a different ending where you could see how the girl reached the first level, but we removed it from the final cut," he concludes.》- www.20minutos.es/cinemania/noticias/el-hoyo-final-explicacion-netflix-148214/
Notice how the floor didn't run hot or cold when the little girl kept the panna cotta and the platform went down? Could it be that the panna cotta was the child's dish? Maybe the floors go hot/cold if you keep someone else's food, not yours.
@@sofia7293 Pretty sure they outright say in the movie that food wouldn't be enough for everyone even if people only took their ration. Imoguiri says that there is enough food for 200 floors, but after being placed lower than floor 200 she realizes that there are way more floors than just 200
My theory about the ending is that the girl didn't exist, both of them lost a lot of blood so hallucinations would be common, during the whole last part our protagonist was limping but in the end he was walking straight so he was prob already dead at that point. The message was still the dessert and the dessert is what got send up. When the old man was checking it for a hair in the middle of the movie it's because they thought that was the reason nobody ate it. Missing the message of the dessert completely
Agree！The ending looks like there is still hope The Admin get the message and change the hole system. But actually the end of the story have been already written in the middle of the movie. So desperate.
@@kemcayvfre1048 The director himself has told that for him Goreng never make it to the last floor, that the floor 333 never existed and all that happens since then its just the dying mind of Goreng in his final struggle to death, butt again this i believe its just the opinion of the director.
Having been homeless, jobless, hopeless, & essentially "at the bottom" i can tell you from personal experience that this movie accurately depicts common human nature. Homeless/Poor people can be very very ruthless, uncaring, selfish, inconsiderate, thieving, dangerous, etc. It's not just about rich or poor. I have met good & very bad people on BOTH ends of the money/social Spectrum.
I've met millionaires on multiple times and have never met one treating me like shit who also treat those who work for them well. It's hard to pin point the problem for how society is unless you consider putting the blame on certain bankers and families who are not the 1% but the 0.01% (billionaires and super powerful people)
I've been homeless and been well off, its irrelevant if your poor or rich on weather or not your going to act like a POS. A POS will be a POS irregardless of their station in life. If a poor person is stealing and backstabbing then they would still act that way irregardless of how rich they become and a decent person with wealth who treats others with kindness and respect will do so no matter how poor they become. A good person will always be a good person and a bad person will always be a bad person. Stop coming up with excuses for trash peoples garbage personalities.
@onieyoh9478 A shit person will be a shit person. But its very easy to make a good person do great evils. All it takes is religion, circumstances, or threats to make even the kindest of people do evil beyond compare. Nazi Germany being a prime example.
@@onieyoh9478 No, that's just flat out wrong. Otherwise good people who steal from some megastore because they haven't eaten in days would not automatically con and cheat other people once they became wealthy. Sure, there are people who will be evil no matter what, but a lot of "good" people who are wealthy are only what we consider good because they didn't have to make tough choices yet. Or choices with no good outcomes.
My Boyfriend, who recommended this movie to me, also noticed the entire randomness in which level you wake up and it mirroring the absolute luck of birth for us. It's not ouch choice into which world/ social layer we are born into.
@@JJ-te6tx nothing in art is an absolute mirror. That's what makes it art. You lose your message the closer you get to reality sometimes. For example, zootopia's ultimately failed message
Did anyone notice that he kept getting up the vertical prison everytime he decided to eat human flesh? As if reflecting how society rewarded him for effectively screwing people over and using them as stepping stones to climb up
Well if he went further down after eating human flesh the story would end as he went insane and starved. He had to go higher up to recover to keep the story going. If he went down twice it would end and we would have to be introduced to a new character.
It's not a "good point". For you to succeed, you need to reach out and work with others. The people who wrote this are socialists who dont understand how people create success.
They also ask everyone what their favorite food is. The chef's makes everyone's favorite dish so if everyone ate their favorite dish there would be enough food for everyone
No, all dishes arent made every day, and some people are bound to have chosen the same things as others, and you wont know how many others you have to split with. For example, the snails that Goreng chose was only shown a single time, yes, likely eaten, but what about when at floor 6? Or when they were going down the day after, there was no snails on either of those two times from what I could see, and I tried to look
Kiores When Goreng first encounters the snails he mentions that he was surprised that the snails made it to level six for the first time. Meaning that the ones above ate them every time besides that time.
SpKSkiing theres no way this entire scenario could exist, if we are banking on realism then explain to me the mechanics of the lift that has no cables and yet travels 300+ floors
First line in the movie: "There are three different kinds of people: those on top, those on bottom, and those that fall." I liked how the whole movie centered around getting to the one that rises. It's almost symbolic that it was a child, sometimes it seems like that's how it is in life with passing generations.
Quarantine depression is getting to other people too. I was experiencing some today towards the end and thought i should just take more antidepressants.
I also absolutely love the wordplay in this scene, Trimagasi tells Goreng that he[2:58] _shouldn't_ talk to the people down below cuz they're below. And that he _mustn't_ talk to the people above because they wouldn't listen.
For Molly - she said that there were 200 levels and enough food for everyone. But she hangs herself when they woke up at 202. I took that as a sign that she really thought there was only 200 and this was the point she realized she didn't know what was going on and decided to commit suicide since her dog was dead and so was her mission.
If Goreng could choose his own favorite dish, then that means so could all the other people. That’s means if you ate what you asked and not been selfish by eating others food, everyone could be happy and satisfied with what they asked for instead creating chaos for the people below
I believe that was a movie mistake or perhaps it's not on every platform. There are 333 levels, 2 people per level. There were not 666 separate dishes on that platform.
True but as you see he wouldn't be able to survive on those six snails. Like the dog, the book, the money, and the book; sometimes people make short sighted requests (sometimes to no fault from them).
I thought that too, but no way in hell would 333 separate meals fit on that small of a platform. The only thing I can think of that would justify why there were only as many meals as there were on the platform, would be that some of the people, maybe inmates or something of the like, don't have a choice. That would lead to the fact that there would never be enough food for everyone. We can see that there wasn't enough from the fact that Goreng and Baharat, even with skipping 44-45 floors, didn't have enough food for all of the floors. In conclusion, that means, somehow or someway, the system is fully rigged so that there is no possible way for everyone to be fed
I think she actually sacrificed her body to goreng so that he can live and he was the change there could be. She will live eternally within goreng, not through his guts, but his actions he takes which causes change. I think it was an act of bravery and spontaneity as she would say. Goreng didn’t want to eat her and “accept spontaneous change” cause to him, nothing spontaneous exists. But the women eased him little by little to eat her. Like in real time, people fear sudden change, but we need it.
This system would be fine if everyone ordered bigger meals. “Escargot really? Your part of the problem. Me, my favorite meal is an entire smoked blue whale fin.”
If I knew thats how the system worked going in, i would claim that my favourite meal is a well hidden cheeseburger. if its well hidden enough, maybe itll make it to my floor
Idle Teen difference being snow piercer has a rigid system in place and everyone had a place without a chance to change, here the prisoner were given a chance to help each other
I said the same thing. I thought I was the only one that thought this movie reminds me of snowpiercer. Just not on a train and it's not cold. The rich people got all the food and space while the poor suffered and got little to no food and was piled up like sardines. Also, this reminds me of snowpiercer because of the cannibalism. The poor was so hungry they ate each other just like the platform. The only difference in platform and snowpiercer is in ;platform people was separated by levels not by salaries like snowpiercer.
People fail to realize that he survived out of sheer wisdom and inner peace. That book he had was a book about enjoying misfortune and suffering. How even in dark times you can still see the light.
Also Don Quijote goes crazy, and in his madness he seems to find the meaning of it all, maybe it's a parallel to Goreng's own journey through suffering, madness and finally peace
Barry White - idk If you quite get it man, it’s about all of us. We all live our lives “for the platform” and strive to achieve a higher status of other “levels”, which are the societal goals we strive for like wealth and stability, or in this case, food and if we all work together in helping our fellow man at least survive then we can all eat from the platform.
@@numerousear7150 yeah I understand the complexities. I'm just breaking it down to the greed and decadence of the one percent versus the clawing delusion of success. My view of success is not necessarily societies. In fact a lot of my beliefs are counter to expectations because kindness, compassion and empathy is highly lacking in working of late. Hopefully all this isolation will force some circumspection of self and folks will start to acknowledge what's really important.
@@barrywhite5638 Goodness keep up with today. 🤦🏾♀️ he's talking abt how people hoarder tissue and paper tawles bc of the corona virus and not saving it for others. Similar to this movie.
I believe Miharu lied about "looking for her son" The child from 333 was there from the beginning since it was a social experiment they ment to see if people will try to help her or care for her Only Mahiru did know but she never informed anybody since she was concerned about the child being eaten No matter where Miharu ended she always was above 333 like everyone else so everytime she could visit the child and scare anyone else who tried to do the same. Everyday she was going down to feed the child so that's how the girl survived.
@@commanderjor4043 she could be lower than him (250 for example) and she was feeding the child with the body of someone she killed Also the movie didn't had to show her going down everytime It was a fact known from the beginning If she saw him on 202 she just ignored him since he had a body to eat from
@@7Singularity It's an easy and lazy way to explain things. "Everything is a simulation", "It's just hallucination ", "It's just afterlife " or "It was a mental illness" can fit to basically anything without much work.
I really like the movie, but I absolutely love the ending for how much it affected me. The head chef scolding his subordinates thinking the panna cotta was returned because of a hair is just absolutely brilliant and such a poignant critique of our society. How he's (authority/ people of high privilege) so ignorant of how it remotely is in the hole that he can't fathom this real reason of rebellion the panna cotta represents. Even Goreng and that lady didn't understand until they experienced it.
The Panna Cotta was not returned. The girl ate it. The head chef was reprimanding them because every dish had to be absolutely perfect when sent down, which is a contrast to what happens to the dishes when the prisoners eat them.
I had this thought on the returned panna cotta. Seems too coincidental for it to be the same food chosen as the message. It's possible some of the events at the end of the film are not real / figments of gorings imagination. A lot is open to interpretation.
He didn't think it was returned because of a hair. That was at the very beginning of the movie and was showing how the Platform works and the foods Journey down. Did you watch the movie in reverse?
@@kracksquatch512 the movie is not presented with a linear timeline, if you think it that way, is posible that the movie starded with the end, wich was after the panacota return to the pit.
After watching people take and take for themselves over this pandemic, I realize this movie nails how selfish people actually are the top and the bottom.
My best friend has always told me that after some things he has gone through, he decided to aspire to have a middle class life. Nothing above that and hopefully nothing below. It made sense but I never fully understood why until I saw this movie.
also just to quickly point some minor things you got wrong: >The second time Goreng wakes up in floor 171 not floor 147 >Goreng was only spending 6 months in the pit, not 1 year
Thought I heard six months too but I think later in the movie I heard a year. Maybe the extra six months was interest on his student loan or some shit.
Yeah I watched the movie in its native Spanish since I understand it. Goreng was supposed to be there only 6 months for his diploma. It also makes sense because he spends two months with the old man, two months with the woman, one with her alive and the second when see had killed herself. That’s why on the fifth month the ghost of the old man tells him it’s good that he is so high up on lvl 6 so he can eat and recover for he has one month left after this one. We in fact see all the Important parts of what happens every month for the 5 months goreng is in there
Props to the main character though, he could have stayed and tried to save himself, but he decided to go down and tried his best to maintain order in the lower floors instead
He only had to spend 6 months in there, not one year, thats why on the 5th floor change at level 6 he was told he would only have one more month to survive, it’s also why there is a good bit of dialogue in the beginning about how long they are both gonna spend there and how it is unfair that he is getting a diploma for only spending 6 months in the pit
This movie just sums it all up about how our society works in the present. There was no random character in this movie, everyone who appeared in the film represents a group of people in our society. In this analysis, I will focus on those characters starting with the main protagonist: Goreng- He is an Idealist. He represents the people in our society who dreams of change, he is noble and kind. This is evident when he chose to bring a book (Don Quixote of La Mancha) to The Hole instead of a tool or a weapon. The book he brought was even a representation of himself in the movie... a noble knight. The Butler in Level 0- He is the administration, the government. He represents the people in power, the world leaders. He is in control of everything. He meticulously inspects all the dishes being served in the platform, he will not allow any imperfection get away like the single strand of hair he found in the Panna Cotta. He is all about the food presentation, but he does not really care about how far out his dishes will serve the people in the lower levels. Is he even aware that only the people on the higher levels are benefiting from what he serves? Does he only serve the elite... the wealthy 1%? Trimagasi- He is a seasoned veteran. He represents the people in our society who were hardened by the system, people who have already experienced it all and just want to survive day by day. These are the people who no longer desire change not because they never wanted it but because they have given up on all hope. He is the one who told Goreng, not to talk to the people below them because they're down below and also not to talk to the people above them because they will not answer him, "obviously". Imoguiri- She is a part of the administration. She worked all her life for the system but she has not really experienced it first-hand. She thinks she knows how the system work but we found out in the movie that she was all wrong. She thought that the Hole has only 200 levels but there were 333 levels in total. She thought that the administration was not letting minors inside the Hole but we found out in the end that a child was in fact in level 333. Baharat- He is a hard-working citizen, the working class. These are the people who aspire for success their whole lives, they work so hard to reach the top of the social ladder but the people higher than them will never allow them to reach their goal because they pose as a threat to their own positions. This was shown in the film when Baharat begged the couple in level 5 to help him climb up; the couple made him believe they were going to help him but they defecated on his face instead. Wise Man in a wheelchair- He is a teacher. He represents the people working in our education system. These are the people who prepare us on how to deal with society, they teach us to be civilized in the modern world. The wise man told Baharat to do a dialogue with the prisoners first before he shows them any aggression but he soon realizes that being aggressive works better. Miharu- She is a parent. She represents the loving parents in our society who would do anything in order for their children to survive. She may appear vicious in the film, but she was only doing what was necessary for her child to survive. Miharu's Daughter- She is the message. She is the message of hope that our society can still reach a sense of solidarity. Sadly, the goal of the Hole for its prisoners was not achieved in the movie, although Goreng and Baharat were able to send a message that there is still hope for the future. It was not explained in the movie how the floor levels are being assigned at the beginning of each month to the prisoners, but I think when you are new in the Hole, they will put you in a level where food scraps will still reach you. Goreng was assigned in level 48 in his first month, Trimagasi's first cell was in level 72, and Imoguiri was placed in level 33 when she entered the Hole. I also don't believe that the cell levels are being assigned randomly to the prisoners in the following months. I think that if the prisoners do not eat or kill their cellmates, they will be assigned to the bottom levels. This is what happened to Goreng and Trimagasi when they went from level 48 down to level 171 the next, then Goreng ate Trimagasi and he went up to level 33. My theory was confirmed when Goreng and Imoguiri went from level 33 down to level 202, then Goreng ate Imoguiri and he was assigned in Level 6 the next month. For me, this represents that you will not be successful in this society unless you learn to be vicious; it's a dog eating dog world; eat or be eaten. This is also the reason why Miharu was killing all her cellmates-- to make sure that she will always be assigned to a higher floor level every month, then she goes down along with the platform to ensure that some food will reach her daughter in level 333. She was not actually looking for her child, she knows exactly where her child is. She never taught her daughter to consume human flesh so she would always be assigned at the lowest level of The Hole. Miharu was doing all of those things to ensure that her daughter will survive. Imoguiri said that the goal of the Hole was to create a spontaneous sense of solidarity, which is also what we need in our society. All the prisoners could have survived if only the people above would be considerate with the people below-- but greed and selfishness always get the best of us. Perhaps the solution was simple: if all the prisoners only stick on eating their favorite food then everyone will be able to eat. The Hole serves all of the prisoner's favorite dish, this was shown during the interview scene of Goreng and confirmed when he saw the Escargot on the platform for the first time when he was in level 33. It was also discovered by Goreng and Baharat at the ending of the film that they can actually keep their favorite food on their cell level without being burned or frozen to death. The Panna Cotta is the favorite food of Miharu's daughter, that's why she was able to eat it in level 333 even if the platform already went down. Goreng, who dreamed of a better society, tried his best to make the people understand how everyone can benefit if they just stop being selfish and greedy. He made the ultimate sacrifice-- he left the security and abundance of level 6 so he can show all the people how solidarity can save all of them from hunger. But greed and selfishness proved to be the stronger foe.
Does anyone else wonder why the platform moved upward so fast? I think it was to prevent people from jumping on it. Upon further reflection, I wonder if Goreng got out and that the real exit, was down and not up?
Yet the plates and food were still intact. I think multiple people could've climbed on the platform like Miharu. They could've easily eaten like kings if they took turns going to the first level, unfortunately human greed wouldn't permit them to do so.
You know this movie comes into play when the Corona virus happened and people selfishly bought out toilet paper even though it wasn't really needed, while the people that needed it wasn't able to get it.
I was thinking the same thing, it highlights how stupid and short sighted the bulk of human population really is and it's just really sad to think about.
@@drtruthseeker8400 hes not saying it's about corona, but that its themes are relatable to what is happening because of corona. Could link it to pretty much anything
in the middle of the movie, the main chef found a hair on the pannacotta. This actually happens after the events of the movie. The girl in level 333 never existed. He sends the Pannacotta, with a hair. But the main chef and the people in level 0 are so disconnected of the reality of the pit they ignored the message and though someone rejected the pannacotta beacuse of the hair, making everything pointless in the end. Super sad. Also, 333 floors, 666 people. Yeah, they are in hell. I remember when I was young I read a story about hell being a giant round table with the most delicious soup in the middle. There was enough soup for everybody but they gave them giant spoons to big to be used so everybody was always hungry. Heaven was the exact same room with the one difference that here, people learned to be kind and share. So they used their giant spoons to feed each other. I believe this story was somehow inspiration for this movie.
@@frasermcardle4776 it was supposed to be a message, even after going thru all the floors they were able to team up with everybody and save food..meaning they might possibly have a chance of all rationing the food evenly (even though i think it turns out impossible). but instead of that happening, when the dude dies and walks off.....and the girl (who is actually just the representation of the panacotta i think) reaches the top, the chef sees the panacotta and instead of thinking, wow they worked together as equals...he sees the hair on it and assumes oh no one wanted it because of a hair....kinda sad ending, message was pointless at the end of the day, as the people on the 0 level are so disillusioned to what actually goes on down the levels
Why does everyone assume the little girl at the bottom is fixed there. The prisoners get changed levels so there’s no way the girl always STAYS at that bottom level. So the mom that rides the platform down has no idea that her kid is all the way at the bottom since the prisoners are constantly changing floors.
I really thought when they weren't paying attention the dog was gonna move down with the platform and get mauled by the people below as they helplessly watched, still pretty gruesome how it turned out but considering how fked it coulda been I was, lowkey glad it happened like that.
He was in there for 5 months out of 6. The movie said it. He needs 6 months to get out with the diploma. Not a year. 2 months with the oldman. 2 months with the woman. Then the last month is when they went down.
Exactly. It bugged me that he messed up like that and kept saying it throughout his “review” that was actually a movie recap. Lol His hallucination even said that he was on level 6 at the moment. So, he could eat well now in case his next level was lower and he could survive to see his release. The roommate was the one who had a year. I remember because he bitched and said he should come out with two degrees then.
Panda Bear UwU Goreng voluntarily went into the prison so he could get a degree/diploma (in 6 months). Trimagasi is serving a year long sentence for murder. When Goreng told Trimagasi why he was in there, Trimagasi said he should come out of there with with two diplomas since he is serving twice the time.
That got proven wrong though. They said that but when they served up the food for people to take the bare minimum to survive and that only was enough to reach floor 200, there were 330 in total. And that was with them skipping the first 50 or so and then also all the people already dead. As well as that there were definitely not 666 dishes on the platform
@@clairelouise3591 the solution was for the 1st 100 levels to fast for a day let the bottom levels eat they portion and alternate days like the woman and her dog
@@KVI_ohm Shut up man. First of all this comment is not even technically a joke. Usually a joke is meant to make someone laugh, and this is achieved by cleverly putting together a sentence that is funny. If you look with perspective when reading his comment, you can tell this sentence is not put together to make people laugh. Second of all I'm pretty sure that he does genuinely have a sense of humor. Everyone has a sense of humor. You look at someone who doesn't laugh at a comment that isn't even meant to be comedical, and you go "It was a joke, learn to get a sense of humour." as if he cannot even remotely find humor no matter the joke.
Ostanian Movie Company either you’re a redditor, or a Twitter warrior: so im not going to start an argument with you, because you guys blow stuff way out of proportion.
I really like the character's journey of the main character here. Like, he starts out noble and goes more brutal and insane as the story goes on but, even though he does become more "feral" in a sense, he never really loses his ideological view. Not something that you see that often, good stuff.
My interpretation is that it ends showing that he gave in and listened to his demons (the old guy) who persuaded him that his journey was done when he reached the bottom and that the message didn't need a messenger. But by not going with the girl and providing context, the chefs didn't understand the message (the hair in the dessert) so context is always needed with content.
@@Hortster The hair in the dessert wasn't from a message. In the beginning of the video you can see the head chef walking around and checking for quality control; in the hair scene, he's yelling at everyone because a hair ended up in a premium dish BEFORE IT WENT DOWN. Remember, it has to be quality, premium food cooked perfectly before they send it down. edit: keep in mind, the head chef also lined the cooks up to compare the hair and find who dropped it - implying only the cooks were responsible, because no one else had interacted with the food yet.
@@RuFi0000000 I think it's the same dessert, the panna cotta in that scene, which could imply that the story is non-linear. It's all open to interpretation though.
@@ThatKidWetFrom3 Why was the panna cotta the message? No food ever made it to the bottom of the hole. So, if a delicious dessert full of fat and sugar could make it to the bottom (and then back to the top level 0), then that would mean people had managed to work together.
The love of money..root of all evil. It's just paper. Focus on hard work, faith and wisdom. Can't take money with you to the grave but you can take your choices and your spirit.
Considering how society is asking it’s citizens to follow accordingly and everyone is grabbing all they can and not leaving enough for those in need, it really hits home.
Ironically, the people who are "trying" to stand out from society only to repeat the cycle again by forcing others to follow what THEY think is better and morally superior than before.
It's actually VERY ironic... But also I have found that the people yelling for everyone to "be fair" are also those that give up the quickest and do just what they are yelling about. The ONLY way will be when the Government steps in and begins rationing out for us and raiding the ones who have bought up everything and hoarded for themselves. And believe me... that will start happening sooner than you think... in fact, I really think that if we don't see it start within the next month (if the infection rate of Coronavirus doesn't begin to seriously slow by then), then we will be really lucky. So, mark my words, we will probably have a communistic/socialist lifestyle before this entire thing is over... and the Democrats will have won and gained EXACTLY what they wanted. Also... everything playing out the way it is, is why I REALLY believe this virus was built and planned by the Democrats and the Chinese Government, TOGETHER, as a New World Order maker. You ALL will see... It's GOING to happen.
What's the one item you want to bring in? "Jetpack!" Edit: This is crazy this is the first time I have received so many likes for my comments Thank you so much
The prisoners not being allowed to keep the food and store it for later signifies that in society, holding onto resources and wealth is a luxury only the people at the top get to have. Also that it is hard for people who aren't at the top to manage and maintain money and power because of the scarce rations. Everything about this movie was sooooooo deep.
no its just stupid, imagine people in the higher floors just swiping all the food onto their floors, you’re trying so hard to make it symbolical that you’re blocking your thinking from common sense.
@@Sh3wbsit literally IS symbolical. although this comment isn’t quiet right, and could be interpreted in different ways. they show at the very end that the dish they kept wasn’t making them freeze OR heat them to death. it was the little girl’s favorite dish. the entire movie is symbolic bro. take what you need and don’t be selfish for others. that’s the LITERAL POINTTTT of the movie
@@tripst4r256 That's not the point of the movie. The movie is very clear that there isn't ever enough food for everyone, rationed or not rationed. That's why the corpo woman hangs herself, because she realizes she's been running a human torture facility and not a social program like she thought.
@@tripst4r256 it was a good movie. You should watch it again, or watch the original Cube or the movie Parasyte, both very good and done in a similar style.
Same. I would've thought the pure pressure going up would kill a man, but when Goreng and Baharat are on level 6 they don't show the platform going up. Maybe it slows downbefore 30 or something. But the whole movie is basically social commentary wrapoed in metaphores, so i wouldn't bang my head in the wall about the details.
Considering the platform was somehow magically descending and ascending without any mechanical assistance, I wouldn't think about it too much. But, yeah... It would be impossible to ride it up at that speed without dying.
I guess it depends on if there is a significant amount of space between floor 0 where the food is sent from and floor 1 . It may slow down a gradual pace between those floors
@@myes344 yes above the ground but deepest building in the world is 7,900 feet deep (2.4km) and it would easily contain 333 rooms on top of each others !
id like to think that too but i hate that there's no definitive answer. the novelty of leaving an ending up to the imagination is so worn out on me to be honest. we're just left with so many unanswered questions. like what will happen to goreng after he reached the bottom? maybe there's an exit, maybe there isn't. if there aint, is it implied that he'll just starve to death there now? it's not even a typical cell like the rest, so will the administration even relocate him at the end of the month? also i didnt see any doors in any of the cells and there are 333 floors, so how are the staff even able to move all the inmates into different cells over one night in a verticle prison? also is it safe to send a child up on the speeding platform for 333 cells? and if they believed that then why has none of the inmates except miharu ever just tried staying on it in order to eventually get to the top? also the movie didn't explain the whole thing about the girl being special and why the platform didn't register that the dessert had been kept on the level. 'she's the message' didn't explain that. people speculate that she was an hallucination and that it was just the dessert that was sent up but that too sprouts more unanswered questions like how was she then seen by baharat and why goreng would hallucinate a girl instead of the boy that miharu was supposedly looking for... and if the girl was real then what will happen to her when she reaches the top (if she survives the trip)? i know the implication is that it's supposed to spark a change in the system but that's only one of a multitude of things that can happen and the movie gave no reason to believe that that particular outcome was guaranteed. so now we're left with maybes. this isn't leaving it to the imagination. it just feels incomplete. so yeah, i was abit frustrated with the ending because i enjoyed the ride so much but the ending left me empty. great movie though and i'd recommend it.
@@wintersummer1633 I'll address quite a few of your points, then. 1. Unanswerable by nature. 2. I think there actually are doors. If you look at the walls where the numbers are etched, you'd see two lines indicating a door. The texture is different between the inside space and the outside- you can see it very clearly on the 48th floor. 3. No, it is absolutely not safe for a child. The reason why leads into the next number: 4. You've actually addressed the 'special' and 'message' part by mentioning the girl = dessert theory. We've seen our protagonist hallucinate not just one, but two people. This is important because: 5. Baharat could have also been a hallucination. We know Baharat was very much real... for most of the trip. So when was it most likely he turned into a hallucination?During the fight where Miharu was killed. Goreng had prolonged asphyxiation (damaging an already damaged brain) while Baharat was stabbed with a katana. Baharat likely lasted juuuuust long enough to save Goreng before kicking the bucket. Alternatively: 6. Goreng could have died there already. He wasn't just hallucinating, he was descending into the afterlife. I honestly, honestly do not think there are 333 floors. A prison that just so happens to hold 666 prisoners, but it's only 665 because the girl at the very bottom floor just so happened to be alone? Hell no. 7. My theory is that Goreng was so affected by Miharu, Don Quixote and the talk about God he had with Trimagasi that as he lay dying he dreamt the rest of the way down. "For neither good nor evil can last for ever; and so it follows that as evil has lasted a long time, good must now be close at hand." He wanted so badly to believe that Miharu was telling the truth, that he had a shot at saving everyone, that the administration would finally listen- but like Don Quixote, he had only gone insane.
Not really the point, you're taking it too literally. Its a philosophical allegory, like Platos allegory of the cave. You are basically the chef who saw the hair in the dessert, you don't get the message sent back up. Not trying to be rude but Idk how else to explain it other than being quite blunt. This comments section is full of completely lost, overly literal interpretations. People staring too hard at the glass
I hope this is a sarcasm, but if its not imma tell you this is a movie, a metaphorical and contemporary movie which represents the society, and I think the creator of this movie wants to send a message to the people above us not God, but yeah know, the Administration.
Is nobody going to talk about how Goreng probably died in the end? His hallucinations making him walk away saying that his journey is over? Why would he, alive and batshit crazy or not, walk away from that platform? With a 0% chance of survival? He obviously died and I don't think enough people realize that.
Bunny loves TaeTae I think a lot of people realized that he was dead or at least the people and I that watched the movie together ended up making the assumption that he died
He is definitely dead because he walks away with dead roommate. He is able to die when he realizes that the message doesn't need him. He is referred to as Messiah several times. He dies and allows the message to stand on its own.
The only way the metaphor fails is that the people at the top know they’ll eventually get stuck at the bottom, so they get fat like a bear for the winter. They all understand what it’s like to be hungry and eat in excess because of it. They do it out of fear and not apathy for the people below em
True since the 1% in social know they can't fail vs anyone else who know they can. So they will try to find ways to prepare themselves. Especially since they have no idea how far they will fall.
Nathan Byrne but that actually still works with the metaphor. they perpetuate the awful society theyre in bc its the only way they think they can properly survive. they fear that they'll be on the bottom next time around, so they fatten themselves up and thus seem heartless and cruel because it just keeps the cycle going. The solution would be to completely destroy and reform the whole society in the first place and blame those who created it in the first place, not those suffering within it. The people at the top could have sacrificed their lives by taking all of the food off of the platform and then freezing to death so that the whole system failed before it even started as a kind of revolution.
Plus the whole point of the movie is that it's arbitrary, when in the real world (or even just real prisons) if you put in the work then you can earn a higher spot. Make a bad decision and you lose everything.
pretty much what you said, the metaphor would work better if instead of being randomly moved to floors, people had to screw others to either maintain their status or even escalate it instead of facing the uncertainty of survival.
When i see someone with a dog, i know from instinct that something WILL inevitably happen to the dog, and when it does, i cry for the dog having such sometimes shitty owner decision
goreng’s sentence was only 6 months not a year, he says that in the beginning. trimagassi (sp?) is the one that was in for a year i believe. it also lines up when you count the different levels he is on throughout the movie.
Did it not make any sense after about a day after watching it for anyone else or just me? How is the platform raised and lowered? Why doesn't the heat just rise through the giant hole in the ceiling? It clearly shows a time a little bit before now, not a futuristic one.
@@nBasedAce Why would you care how the plataform is raised or lowered? It's like watching Harry Potter and asking why the spells come out of the wands... Fucking stupid.
When I was watching this movie for the first time my area actually had a small earthquake. My area never gets earthquakes and it was my first time experiencing it so I had no clue what was going on. It made the movie have a surreal feeling for me after that
I eat once a night 🌙 fast and prepare your bodys to eat small increments of food the elites will force the vaccine and than syphon the damned to the mark of the beast; Jesus christ is coming back but not before all is fulfilled. Those who try to save and keep their lives will lose it and those who lose their lives for his name will save it. You have to descend to ascend. Therefore I must decrease and he must increase. The weaker you become the stronger his voice rings within your mortal body. these dust body's that we have. I was getting satan vibes from Timarsu or whatever is name is the old man tempting the main character to eat the food go ahead cannibalise or perish! And the main character being the messiah equality and equity for all flesh i can be rightfully situated at the top of the pyramid and you all will he bowing to me and I'd have the cut of the finest dishes but instead he descended and descended to a point reaching outer darkness like the bible says in hell is outer darkness pitch black darkness. He sent the child on the platform that can signfy the world 🌎 us being the little children. I think the old man was saying she won't make it or something that's exactly what the devil would say. Jesus went to hell for 3 days of total darkness and misery to save us all. Only I wish the ending gave it justice the platform coming back down with special ops troops and government leaders picking the main character by the arms and helping him up on the platform and being zoomed all the way to "Heaven" to the administration floor where he is told that he "Passed the test" and there is 1% of people who manage to make it out. The child wasn't alone in the room there were cameras and secret doors that would allow help to the child if any prisoners would pull something funny on the child. Very good movie im disappointed in the ending 😕
@@SprDrumio64 The book of ecliastes elaborates how the social structure has been flawed since the beginning of time without a proper king who is perfect be it Jesus. The rich prosper in there wickedness and the poor suffer. Its easy to do wrong, its harder to do what's right ✅ and at the final hour When God comes back he will reward every man back whether for GOOD or for evil believe or not believe that doesn't change the outcome. You have to admit that we aren't perfect all of us have some imperfections none of us are perfect, everyone who's ever been in power had something they lacked for the people. When King Jesus comes back he will have an eternal kingdom that won't rust it will retain its luster for eternity his name will retain glory for eternity because it falls back on his literal word's which he never lied or broke for anyone. He will be compassionate and rule with mercy but he also will be a God that will rule with fire 🔥 🔥 in his eye's. He will tend to the needs of all mankind those who believed and were redeemed by his saving blood. He came on a colt and he comes again on a royal stallion to render back each to there own. This may be a movie but it throughly paints the picture of inequality. Those on the top flores indulge and those on the bottom fight to survive. Those in the middle I see as those who aren't in 3rd world country's they're surviving alright; but just getting by. Very deep.
The scariest part for me in the movie was to see moly say their was only 200 floors and when she ended up on 202 she decided to off herself, what scary is even some one who worked 25 years there didn’t even know the full story
The chef found the hair in the dessert that was sent back up and assumed that was the reason it wasn't eaten. The girl didn't exist. It demonstrates the huge disconnect between classes
@@hamza-trabelsi Explain why the hair was blamed on the man with pretty much no hair. Explain why the hair color was the same as on the child. Explain how a child could survive at floor 333 with literally no blood on her, no blood on her clothes, etc. It would make no sense at all if that weren't the case.
@@heckingbamboozled8097 the child was put there on purpose , and no one knows about , the child never change the level otherwise people would have known about her. they put it there after all the lower dead levels . so no one could have known about it. The question is why her mother didn't find her , she descend every month , didn't she ever try to reach level 333 ? maybe she know this , and every month she kill her cell mate to feed her child. that's why there are some blood traces on the child without even getting hurt.
some things you got wrong 1 - he only was going in for 6 months 2 - Trimagasi calls him little snail in reference to how you clean a snail before eating only when they get to level 171
and at 12:39 he says again that hes called a snail because of his stature which doesn't make any fucking sense, these kinda ruined the video for me that he couldn't get these pretty big parts of the story correct
thank you to those who helped correct my mistakes I knew there was a one and seven but couldn't remember the sequence haha and should have looked at how to spell his name but I wrote this in my car
@@QuinnRuesga5123 definately agree this is a film where you gotta pay close attention so you understand all the moments like how the Panna Cotta that the chef's get reprimanded for is the same one from the ending
My question is: Why is it always Goreng who wakes up last? Like, everytime he wakes up, someone has either hanged themselves or is about to kill him. Why don't he wake up earlier?
Maybe because he wasn't eating as much? Most drugs leave the body sooner if you eaten or it get's absorbed less. It could also symbolize his lack of mental understanding of the system, which is why he gets called a snail.
This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes: "nearly all men can stand against adversity, but if you wish to test a man's character, give him power." -Abraham Lincoln
@@zanetrain1651 There IS plenty or prosperity for the ones who are connected and allowed by those to enter the class that runs the nation. Just the fact that most small business are allowed to be targeted and shut down by the big business is a perfect example of how the 1% control wealth. A PERFECT example of this is how GameStop will sue and shutdown ANY "Mom and Pop" video game retailer out there that trades in games (like trading in video games was THEIR idea only). IF you HAPPEN to make the UPPER class contacts and you HAPPEN to be ACCEPTED by the UPPER class then you will either be allowed to continue... Or, if you are a REAL threat to them then you may be offered a good amount to be purchased and "merge" with the big business and allowed to stay with the "parent" company as upper management. AGAIN, GameStop being the PERFECT example... If the "Mom and Pop" video game retailer is really prosperous, and has several locations, then GameStop will go in and BUY the chain and then it will keep the employees on during the "changeover" to GameStop, but then it will bring in its own management team about 3-6 months after the "changeover" because of "shrink" problems (even though nobody of the "Mom and Pop" stores EVER stole before) and then all the old employees (one by one) will be fired and replaced with GameStop automatons.
@Shannon Marie I agree, for ppl who are lazy and make a lot of excuses there is very little upward mobility. You should stop making excuses and toughen up.
Shannon Marie that’s why my grandpa born into a family with little money and 4 siblings is the owner of a law firm and lives financially comfortable. Maybe if you work hard you can move up, that’s the point.
@@weareeverywhere6677 First of all, I refuse to believe that gamestop can shut down another store that does video game trade ins.. That sounds completely made up and you need to show evidence. Thats equivalent to McDonalds shutdown Burger King or BlockBuster shutting down easy video. Next you explain that a person signs a bad contract (making a bad decision) and partners with Gamestop. Haha some people just love to make excuses for either not working hard enough or making bad choices
Jack Ripley Ok heres some examples of Goreng’s privilege in the story 1) he did not know where his acceptance from the administration lied (he didnt know he was going to the pit) 2) He was picky with his food. 3) he brought a book im saying the movie made an effort to outline his privilege in an effort for the audience to consider how Goreng is not that much different from ourselves, and that it’s incredibly difficult for any privileged life to survive in the wild. Vis-a-vis Goreng oversleeping on level 202 (edit: 171). Hope that clears some things up.
Trimagasi notes that Goreng sleeps very soundly when he wakes tied up on level 171, which I believe is meant to address that. The sleeping gas was probably more effective on him than the people he was paired with - that kind of individual variability happens with general anaesthesia in real life too.
The soultion for me was if everyone just ate the dish they spoke off in the interview everyone would have gotten what they acutally suppose to get regardless of thier level
Me after reading your comment -->🤯 It's 3:26 A.M. I just finished the movie then decided to watch this because I couldn't rap my head around it now I'm reading your comment and you just blew my mind! Your fu**ing awesome!
"Be nice to people on your way up. You'll meet them on your way down".
I'm trying understand this but yeah your right
@@bobbyhernandez9756 the quote refers to how life itself is full of ups and downs and how people can go from a good standing to a not-so-good situation really fast. And it shows who exactly is going to be there for you when you fall on hard times. As for ascending up the ladder, its important to recognize the people who are in less fortunate situations than you are and to be kind and help in some way, regardless of your own standing.
@@bobbyhernandez9756 or since this film is obviosly brain dead basic comunist analogy of how society is working.... Without intervention of central force them.... .. Just dont be dump and choose insidose institucion runing social experiments without any control in the first place.....
@@damianpos8832 no ones brave enough to be sent all the way to the bottom since they understand no one gets food. And if t by ey try they could be killed for their flesh as sustenance for others
@@bobbyhernandez9756 film was basic political massage.... Wrong one btw.... even plot on its own doesnt make sanse biggest plot holes.are ... Why choose this vertical center instead of others as a place to serve your sentence... Or even place to get uniqe experienceLike showed with that female actor. Thats dump.... And Why not take platforms UP???? The killer girl did go on round trips on the platform since the begining????.. Stupidity was virtue in this movie
Best quote of the movie: "I can't shit upwards."
Facts.
Nah fr
straight facts
yep hahahh
x1teGaming lmao
Best line of the movie has to be " I can't shit upwards."
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Exactly
Agreed
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@@ool_ongtea3283 hey! dont use fat mans word!
The scariest thing about seeing somebody commit suicide by jumping down the hole? They were on a higher level than you and still decided they'd rather die.
Commit suicide? They’re on top, more chance that they’re were pushed.
Makes sense! There joy will be short lived. Constantly worrying about what level u might be in time and living in fear- it’s horrible for anyone
How do you know they jumped? What if they were pushed
@@E45invasionyou never hear anyone yelling
Facts.
There’s 333 floors...each floor presumably holds 2 people...
The facility can hold 666 people...strange coincidence for the people to call the pit a hell hole...
They made biblical references too in the movie, like reading the verses from the Last Supper part in bible, so I wasn't surprise tbh. But for me the real cliché part was the guy who took money for his item. They reeally wanted to send a message there..
THANK YOU FOR NOTICING
But the bottom floor only has 1 person
I_HIT_G_SPOTS yes morrise
@@seanpazdera6407 but one of the floors they passed down has 3. 2 dudes and 1 woman.
This movie produced one of my favorite quotes of all time: "Maybe my life sucks because my knives aren't sharp enough!".
Tell that to Michael mayers 😂😂😂😂🔪🔪🔪
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U have a deep thinking dude....appreciate dat
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@@swk9015 dam it you beat me to it
He only needed to stay there for 6 months, not 1 year.
The Gutenberg yeah, trimagazi was the one who was put there for a year, he got them confused.
I remembered that because of how trimagazi said he should have two diplomas at the end of his sentence
yeah
333 floors. Each floor has 2 people. 333*2=666
There is 666 items on the platform and If people eat what they ask for in the QNA instead of eating each other’s food, the food would reach the bottom. But the point of this movie is people only care about themselves instead of each other. That’s why the food only last to level maybe 70 smh.
I just threw a like even though I don’t know what this shit means, I believe you
I dont think the little girl was imaginary. Goreng believed all along that Miharu's child was a boy, therefore it makes no sense that he would imagine a girl to appear.
Its too coincidental that the food chosen as message is the same that was found with a hair. It looks like the movie starts with the end, and if the panacota actually went up, it means that the little girl never really existe bc she didnt eat it
How do we know its a girl?
@@mayrithaps but where could the black hair comes from if she didn't exist?
@@mayrithapsthe director confirmed that the girl is real
@@rippintires2252 i will leave you a quote said director from the director that appears in a little analysis from the movie, in the end i will leave you the link, but the Page is in spanish: 《There are three indications that lead to opting for the pessimistic interpretation. · The information provided by Imoguiri (Antonia San Juan): ensures that she accepted Miharu in the hole ten months ago, that she was carrying a ukulele and that no one under 16 years of age can enter. · What you see in the movie: if we mistrust Imoguiri's words (after all, she was wrong about the number of levels of the hole; she thought there were 200, when she discovers that there are more, she commits suicide), we can refer to what the film shows. A scolding from the chef to his kitchen team for a pannacotta with a hair on it. Although the scene appears long before the end in the narrative, chronologically it can be placed as a conclusion. That would be the panna cotta that Goreng and Baharat sent back, only the chef thinks that it has not been eaten because it was a hair. · What the director of El hoyo, Galder Gaztelu-Urrutia, says. "For me, the last level does not exist. Goreng dies before arriving, and what we see is his interpretation of what he would have done," according to the Bilbao filmmaker in an interview with The Digital Spy. "I wanted the ending to be open to interpretation, as if the plan really works or if the people above even care about those in the hole." "I leave what happens to each one's imagination," reflects the director. Not without first ensuring that an alternative ending was filmed that was very different from his own interpretation. "We shot a different ending where you could see how the girl reached the first level, but we removed it from the final cut," he concludes.》- www.20minutos.es/cinemania/noticias/el-hoyo-final-explicacion-netflix-148214/
Notice how the floor didn't run hot or cold when the little girl kept the panna cotta and the platform went down? Could it be that the panna cotta was the child's dish? Maybe the floors go hot/cold if you keep someone else's food, not yours.
that's actually a very interesting theory.
Holy shit this makes so much sense
I'm betting that the only reason that the temperature didn't change was because the food isn't meant to survive that long.
@@choiceoyster7572 Except it is. If everyone only took their dish, food would last all the way down.
@@sofia7293 Pretty sure they outright say in the movie that food wouldn't be enough for everyone even if people only took their ration. Imoguiri says that there is enough food for 200 floors, but after being placed lower than floor 200 she realizes that there are way more floors than just 200
My theory about the ending is that the girl didn't exist, both of them lost a lot of blood so hallucinations would be common, during the whole last part our protagonist was limping but in the end he was walking straight so he was prob already dead at that point. The message was still the dessert and the dessert is what got send up. When the old man was checking it for a hair in the middle of the movie it's because they thought that was the reason nobody ate it. Missing the message of the dessert completely
Jarno Van Herreweghe wow I really like this theory! Very interesting
Woww that caught me!
Jarno Van Herreweghe this makes it even more tragic
FullTimeSlacker it wouldn’t be the first time that happened in the movie, we saw flashbacks about the time the protagonist was reclutes
Agree！The ending looks like there is still hope The Admin get the message and change the hole system. But actually the end of the story have been already written in the middle of the movie. So desperate.
And also here is a thought "the woman wasnt looking for her son she was saving food for her daughter
kemca yvfre food or human meat?
The single parent who must fight and struggle everyday to feed their child....nice
The daughter wasn't real tho.... It was just a figment of the main cast dying imagination
Why would he imagine a little girl tho I mean wouldn't he imagine a boy and also food or human meat is a very good question
@@kemcayvfre1048 The director himself has told that for him Goreng never make it to the last floor, that the floor 333 never existed and all that happens since then its just the dying mind of Goreng in his final struggle to death, butt again this i believe its just the opinion of the director.
Having been homeless, jobless, hopeless, & essentially "at the bottom" i can tell you from personal experience that this movie accurately depicts common human nature. Homeless/Poor people can be very very ruthless, uncaring, selfish, inconsiderate, thieving, dangerous, etc. It's not just about rich or poor. I have met good & very bad people on BOTH ends of the money/social Spectrum.
I've met millionaires on multiple times and have never met one treating me like shit who also treat those who work for them well. It's hard to pin point the problem for how society is unless you consider putting the blame on certain bankers and families who are not the 1% but the 0.01% (billionaires and super powerful people)
This is true but I believe the actual causes/reasons for the behaviors are generally vastly different in the poor vs. the wealthier types.
I've been homeless and been well off, its irrelevant if your poor or rich on weather or not your going to act like a POS.
A POS will be a POS irregardless of their station in life.
If a poor person is stealing and backstabbing then they would still act that way irregardless of how rich they become and a decent person with wealth who treats others with kindness and respect will do so no matter how poor they become.
A good person will always be a good person and a bad person will always be a bad person.
Stop coming up with excuses for trash peoples garbage personalities.
@onieyoh9478
A shit person will be a shit person.
But its very easy to make a good person do great evils. All it takes is religion, circumstances, or threats to make even the kindest of people do evil beyond compare.
Nazi Germany being a prime example.
@@onieyoh9478 No, that's just flat out wrong. Otherwise good people who steal from some megastore because they haven't eaten in days would not automatically con and cheat other people once they became wealthy.
Sure, there are people who will be evil no matter what, but a lot of "good" people who are wealthy are only what we consider good because they didn't have to make tough choices yet. Or choices with no good outcomes.
My Boyfriend, who recommended this movie to me, also noticed the entire randomness in which level you wake up and it mirroring the absolute luck of birth for us. It's not ouch choice into which world/ social layer we are born into.
Laura S. Damn thats cool 🤟
Damn, I didn't think about that
Your boyfriend a fucking genius
Except you can wake up next month and be rich? Wtf are you talking about.
@@JJ-te6tx nothing in art is an absolute mirror. That's what makes it art. You lose your message the closer you get to reality sometimes. For example, zootopia's ultimately failed message
this prison looks like a minecraft mob farm doe
Wolfgang it’s actually the exact height that if you jump you have half a heart and their are people at the bottom ready to hit you
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makes you think how humane those farms were😔🤟 poor cubed animals
Just getting a villager to get those zombies
Facts
Did anyone notice that he kept getting up the vertical prison everytime he decided to eat human flesh? As if reflecting how society rewarded him for effectively screwing people over and using them as stepping stones to climb up
Oh shit I never thought of that
Another good point caught mate
Well if he went further down after eating human flesh the story would end as he went insane and starved. He had to go higher up to recover to keep the story going. If he went down twice it would end and we would have to be introduced to a new character.
It's not a "good point". For you to succeed, you need to reach out and work with others. The people who wrote this are socialists who dont understand how people create success.
Michael Atanasio it’s upsetting that you see people getting access to food as socialism.
Sometimes I wonder how stable the minds of people who come up with horror movies are. This shit is unhinged
😂 fr how do people come up with some of these movies
I felt uncomfortable & on edge the ENTIRE movie
maybe you should express yourself more respectful
@@EarnedNotGivenSoccer maybe you should express yourself more respectful
@@Ryan-pg1tw no
They also ask everyone what their favorite food is. The chef's makes everyone's favorite dish so if everyone ate their favorite dish there would be enough food for everyone
No, all dishes arent made every day, and some people are bound to have chosen the same things as others, and you wont know how many others you have to split with.
For example, the snails that Goreng chose was only shown a single time, yes, likely eaten, but what about when at floor 6? Or when they were going down the day after, there was no snails on either of those two times from what I could see, and I tried to look
Kiores When Goreng first encounters the snails he mentions that he was surprised that the snails made it to level six for the first time. Meaning that the ones above ate them every time besides that time.
@@Kobez24x There is no way that rectangle holds 664 dishes as there are 332 floors with people on them
but at the near ending he and his cellmate gave out food rationally and it still wasnt enough in the end
SpKSkiing theres no way this entire scenario could exist, if we are banking on realism then explain to me the mechanics of the lift that has no cables and yet travels 300+ floors
That guy with the blue hair sitting alone with all his money is actually Ninja
serves him right 😤
My man
Thats LIGMA ninja.
obviously
@@drdisrespectwomen2451 settle in
Fit in
Drip in
And win
Funny how just like in the movie, this comment section gets worse and worse the further down you go!!
The 1st guy is the worst
An ur at the very bottom
haha
Funny how I went far down to see this
Mike Rotch every 2 people are the partners
First line in the movie:
"There are three different kinds of people: those on top, those on bottom, and those that fall."
I liked how the whole movie centered around getting to the one that rises. It's almost symbolic that it was a child, sometimes it seems like that's how it is in life with passing generations.
This movie actually has a great and refreshing plot. Surprised me.
same bruh just like bello experiment finally ppl can fucking think
TheShowdown exactly. Its not some dumb killer haunted doll, or demon worshippers.
Indeed
facts. this movie seems very thought out and the concept was very creative. sadly the ending was sub par. great movie though!
Obviously 😊😂
By "explained" he means "summarized for people who can't stomach horror films"
Pretty much, that's why I'm here tbh 😓
This is a thriller-suspense movie
Didn’t have to call me out like that
Or summarized for people who really enjoy horror films but don’t feel like watching every one thoroughly.
Nah, it just saves me a lot of time. A lot of the movies he "explains" seem like a waste of time. I usually watch the ones that seem worth it though.
I never truly appreciated how cheery and uplifting foundflix's voice and narration is until quarantine depression hit 😂
When he does the videos by himself he is.
I know right. Quarantine depression is reaching him already.
I HAVE THE DOCUMENTS Yea when he made the video with his girlfriend (or wife I don’t remember) his voice was so monotone it surprised me
Quarantine depression is getting to other people too. I was experiencing some today towards the end and thought i should just take more antidepressants.
@@Suko44 I was wondering if anyone would know what I was saying 😂
I also absolutely love the wordplay in this scene, Trimagasi tells Goreng that he[2:58] _shouldn't_ talk to the people down below cuz they're below. And that he _mustn't_ talk to the people above because they wouldn't listen.
For Molly - she said that there were 200 levels and enough food for everyone. But she hangs herself when they woke up at 202. I took that as a sign that she really thought there was only 200 and this was the point she realized she didn't know what was going on and decided to commit suicide since her dog was dead and so was her mission.
Lynsey17 And Also Because she was sick
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She was dying of cancer and sacrificed herself so goreng could live to hopefully spread the message
drunkinmcirish23 well she never said that, the guy told himself that so he wouldn’t feel bad fort eating he flesh
@Thomas Veysey Called me a pussy, Noice
Goreng had to spend 6 months in the prison for his diploma, not a year.
Thank you 🙏
Wasnt for a diploma it was for a degree
uncreative ; yes he knew this way he could get the diploma or degree, and there was no way for him to smoke
FUCK THE POLICE. it’s dubbed as one and subtitled as the other
@@zimmy1 in the original language is 6 months
If Goreng could choose his own favorite dish, then that means so could all the other people. That’s means if you ate what you asked and not been selfish by eating others food, everyone could be happy and satisfied with what they asked for instead creating chaos for the people below
But them again the staff was written to be really inept and built one too many floors
I believe that was a movie mistake or perhaps it's not on every platform. There are 333 levels, 2 people per level. There were not 666 separate dishes on that platform.
True but as you see he wouldn't be able to survive on those six snails. Like the dog, the book, the money, and the book; sometimes people make short sighted requests (sometimes to no fault from them).
I thought that too, but no way in hell would 333 separate meals fit on that small of a platform. The only thing I can think of that would justify why there were only as many meals as there were on the platform, would be that some of the people, maybe inmates or something of the like, don't have a choice. That would lead to the fact that there would never be enough food for everyone. We can see that there wasn't enough from the fact that Goreng and Baharat, even with skipping 44-45 floors, didn't have enough food for all of the floors. In conclusion, that means, somehow or someway, the system is fully rigged so that there is no possible way for everyone to be fed
Maybe a lot of people chose the same dish. That is a massive cake for one person.
That knife story with the ad legitimately had me cry laughing.
That part was great
I thought the woman who gave the interview said that there was 200 levels and since she woke up on the 202 that just pushed her over the edge.
phiro33 That’s true, and plus, she was too depressed after Ramses’s death
Rexi Sanchez Ramses the II*
Yeah, not even she knows the truth
I think she actually sacrificed her body to goreng so that he can live and he was the change there could be. She will live eternally within goreng, not through his guts, but his actions he takes which causes change. I think it was an act of bravery and spontaneity as she would say. Goreng didn’t want to eat her and “accept spontaneous change” cause to him, nothing spontaneous exists. But the women eased him little by little to eat her. Like in real time, people fear sudden change, but we need it.
@@ABlueElitefromHaloCE ok then name nazi
This system would be fine if everyone ordered bigger meals.
“Escargot really? Your part of the problem. Me, my favorite meal is an entire smoked blue whale fin.”
Cursed Mushroom I thought the same thing. My answer would have been a 1,600 pound cow, barbecued over a fire pit!
lol, very clever one hahaha
@@racecarsinc Because you would voluntary if you knew what you were going to..., not.
How about the fact that the 1 item some people chose to bring were so stupid. Someone brought a goddamn violin.
If I knew thats how the system worked going in, i would claim that my favourite meal is a well hidden cheeseburger.
if its well hidden enough, maybe itll make it to my floor
It’s almost like a vertical, prison version of the Snowpiercer.
Yeah. Without get their ass's freezed. lol
Idle Teen difference being snow piercer has a rigid system in place and everyone had a place without a chance to change, here the prisoner were given a chance to help each other
I said the same thing. I thought I was the only one that thought this movie reminds me of snowpiercer. Just not on a train and it's not cold. The rich people got all the food and space while the poor suffered and got little to no food and was piled up like sardines. Also, this reminds me of snowpiercer because of the cannibalism. The poor was so hungry they ate each other just like the platform. The only difference in platform and snowpiercer is in ;platform people was separated by levels not by salaries like snowpiercer.
Alyssa Alyssa Also, the ending in both films where a child represents hope, and during both films a woman is looking for her child.
@@z_202 true
People fail to realize that he survived out of sheer wisdom and inner peace. That book he had was a book about enjoying misfortune and suffering. How even in dark times you can still see the light.
for me it means that he subconciously want to go through the hell and back
Only by suffering...as our Lord showed us.
Also Don Quijote goes crazy, and in his madness he seems to find the meaning of it all, maybe it's a parallel to Goreng's own journey through suffering, madness and finally peace
Moral of the story: stop hoarding the toilet paper! Really, this movie couldn't have better timing!
Its about billionaires, not toilet paper hoarders lol
Barry White - idk If you quite get it man, it’s about all of us. We all live our lives “for the platform” and strive to achieve a higher status of other “levels”, which are the societal goals we strive for like wealth and stability, or in this case, food and if we all work together in helping our fellow man at least survive then we can all eat from the platform.
@@numerousear7150 yeah I understand the complexities. I'm just breaking it down to the greed and decadence of the one percent versus the clawing delusion of success. My view of success is not necessarily societies. In fact a lot of my beliefs are counter to expectations because kindness, compassion and empathy is highly lacking in working of late. Hopefully all this isolation will force some circumspection of self and folks will start to acknowledge what's really important.
@@barrywhite5638 Nah, it's about selfish hoarding. Get your head outta your ass.
@@barrywhite5638 Goodness keep up with today. 🤦🏾♀️ he's talking abt how people hoarder tissue and paper tawles bc of the corona virus and not saving it for others. Similar to this movie.
the protagonist was literally "getting to the bottom of this"
666 likes lmaoo
*da dum tis*
I believe Miharu lied about "looking for her son"
The child from 333 was there from the beginning since it was a social experiment they ment to see if people will try to help her or care for her
Only Mahiru did know but she never informed anybody since she was concerned about the child being eaten
No matter where Miharu ended she always was above 333 like everyone else so everytime she could visit the child and scare anyone else who tried to do the same.
Everyday she was going down to feed the child so that's how the girl survived.
Nope, what about the time he spent on 202? She would've been on the platform with food coming down everyday and going up everyday.
@@commanderjor4043 she could be lower than him (250 for example) and she was feeding the child with the body of someone she killed
Also the movie didn't had to show her going down everytime
It was a fact known from the beginning
If she saw him on 202 she just ignored him since he had a body to eat from
@@mami271011 I think the girl is just a hallucination theory fit better.
@@7Singularity It's an easy and lazy way to explain things. "Everything is a simulation", "It's just hallucination ", "It's just afterlife " or "It was a mental illness" can fit to basically anything without much work.
It’s not about logic, but symbols
I really like the movie, but I absolutely love the ending for how much it affected me. The head chef scolding his subordinates thinking the panna cotta was returned because of a hair is just absolutely brilliant and such a poignant critique of our society. How he's (authority/ people of high privilege) so ignorant of how it remotely is in the hole that he can't fathom this real reason of rebellion the panna cotta represents. Even Goreng and that lady didn't understand until they experienced it.
The Panna Cotta was not returned. The girl ate it. The head chef was reprimanding them because every dish had to be absolutely perfect when sent down, which is a contrast to what happens to the dishes when the prisoners eat them.
I had this thought on the returned panna cotta. Seems too coincidental for it to be the same food chosen as the message.
It's possible some of the events at the end of the film are not real / figments of gorings imagination.
A lot is open to interpretation.
No one holds the 1% accountable
He didn't think it was returned because of a hair. That was at the very beginning of the movie and was showing how the Platform works and the foods Journey down. Did you watch the movie in reverse?
@@kracksquatch512 the movie is not presented with a linear timeline, if you think it that way, is posible that the movie starded with the end, wich was after the panacota return to the pit.
i’m pretty sure he only had to stay there for 6 months, not an entire year.
Yeah 6 months only , not a year like he says I’ve just watched the film
I was looking for someone to comment this lmaoo
Old man had to stay for a year, but the main dude only had to do 6 months.
I was about to comment that lol
2 months with the old man, 2 with the woman and one with the black dude so only one more month left him
you know ur doomed when Matt Stonie is on level 1
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This comment is truly underrated
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I would just die.
After watching people take and take for themselves over this pandemic, I realize this movie nails how selfish people actually are the top and the bottom.
It scares menand disheartens me so much, i hate it here.
My best friend has always told me that after some things he has gone through, he decided to aspire to have a middle class life. Nothing above that and hopefully nothing below. It made sense but I never fully understood why until I saw this movie.
Yes Middle people are relax
@@suzettetabora4363 your not wrong atucally honestly a decent upper middle class person has it good.
@vctjkhme preach
also just to quickly point some minor things you got wrong:
>The second time Goreng wakes up in floor 171 not floor 147
>Goreng was only spending 6 months in the pit, not 1 year
In this case, I wouldn’t call mistaking six months for a year a minor mistake. That alters the entire trajectory of the story.
Thought I heard six months too but I think later in the movie I heard a year. Maybe the extra six months was interest on his student loan or some shit.
This guy fucked up a hell of a lot more than those minor examples.. He botched something in almost every single statement..
Yeah I watched the movie in its native Spanish since I understand it. Goreng was supposed to be there only 6 months for his diploma. It also makes sense because he spends two months with the old man, two months with the woman, one with her alive and the second when see had killed herself. That’s why on the fifth month the ghost of the old man tells him it’s good that he is so high up on lvl 6 so he can eat and recover for he has one month left after this one. We in fact see all the Important parts of what happens every month for the 5 months goreng is in there
Props to the main character though, he could have stayed and tried to save himself, but he decided to go down and tried his best to maintain order in the lower floors instead
How are you in every comment section !?
Dude u are here also.
Bro you have NO TYPE OF LIFE ..
Exactly, it was too easy to forget anyone below. But he displayed empathy.
Pro Shooter Yeah. Flawed as it was this was an already endless violent cycle. He saw this as a way to help as many a he could.
I remember i felt so bad for baharat when he got shit on and lost his rope ☹️😔😔 he seemed like such a nice, optimistic guy
I thought they were gonna drop him
@@Deelane8 I mean. They did.
@@P_Shii I meant down the hole... should’ve been more specific
How did he even die
@@lotsofnoah when the guy with the samurai sword cut him in the stomach he bled out during the night
He only had to spend 6 months in there, not one year, thats why on the 5th floor change at level 6 he was told he would only have one more month to survive, it’s also why there is a good bit of dialogue in the beginning about how long they are both gonna spend there and how it is unfair that he is getting a diploma for only spending 6 months in the pit
KrazyKlh that’s what I thought, I was like “wasn’t it half a year
Yeah the old dude was the one staying for a year
You’d think a page this big wouldn’t fuck up something that simple
@Irfan Alddin it's a musical instrument.
@Irfan Alddin Hawaiian guitar its really small.
Imagine being on level 6 with that couple on level 5 and listening to them go at it for 30 days.....
This movie just sums it all up about how our society works in the present. There was no random character in this movie, everyone who appeared in the film represents a group of people in our society. In this analysis, I will focus on those characters starting with the main protagonist:
Goreng- He is an Idealist. He represents the people in our society who dreams of change, he is noble and kind. This is evident when he chose to bring a book (Don Quixote of La Mancha) to The Hole instead of a tool or a weapon. The book he brought was even a representation of himself in the movie... a noble knight.
The Butler in Level 0- He is the administration, the government. He represents the people in power, the world leaders. He is in control of everything. He meticulously inspects all the dishes being served in the platform, he will not allow any imperfection get away like the single strand of hair he found in the Panna Cotta. He is all about the food presentation, but he does not really care about how far out his dishes will serve the people in the lower levels. Is he even aware that only the people on the higher levels are benefiting from what he serves? Does he only serve the elite... the wealthy 1%?
Trimagasi- He is a seasoned veteran. He represents the people in our society who were hardened by the system, people who have already experienced it all and just want to survive day by day. These are the people who no longer desire change not because they never wanted it but because they have given up on all hope. He is the one who told Goreng, not to talk to the people below them because they're down below and also not to talk to the people above them because they will not answer him, "obviously".
Imoguiri- She is a part of the administration. She worked all her life for the system but she has not really experienced it first-hand. She thinks she knows how the system work but we found out in the movie that she was all wrong. She thought that the Hole has only 200 levels but there were 333 levels in total. She thought that the administration was not letting minors inside the Hole but we found out in the end that a child was in fact in level 333.
Baharat- He is a hard-working citizen, the working class. These are the people who aspire for success their whole lives, they work so hard to reach the top of the social ladder but the people higher than them will never allow them to reach their goal because they pose as a threat to their own positions. This was shown in the film when Baharat begged the couple in level 5 to help him climb up; the couple made him believe they were going to help him but they defecated on his face instead.
Wise Man in a wheelchair- He is a teacher. He represents the people working in our education system. These are the people who prepare us on how to deal with society, they teach us to be civilized in the modern world. The wise man told Baharat to do a dialogue with the prisoners first before he shows them any aggression but he soon realizes that being aggressive works better.
Miharu- She is a parent. She represents the loving parents in our society who would do anything in order for their children to survive. She may appear vicious in the film, but she was only doing what was necessary for her child to survive.
Miharu's Daughter- She is the message. She is the message of hope that our society can still reach a sense of solidarity. Sadly, the goal of the Hole for its prisoners was not achieved in the movie, although Goreng and Baharat were able to send a message that there is still hope for the future.
It was not explained in the movie how the floor levels are being assigned at the beginning of each month to the prisoners, but I think when you are new in the Hole, they will put you in a level where food scraps will still reach you. Goreng was assigned in level 48 in his first month, Trimagasi's first cell was in level 72, and Imoguiri was placed in level 33 when she entered the Hole. I also don't believe that the cell levels are being assigned randomly to the prisoners in the following months. I think that if the prisoners do not eat or kill their cellmates, they will be assigned to the bottom levels. This is what happened to Goreng and Trimagasi when they went from level 48 down to level 171 the next, then Goreng ate Trimagasi and he went up to level 33. My theory was confirmed when Goreng and Imoguiri went from level 33 down to level 202, then Goreng ate Imoguiri and he was assigned in Level 6 the next month. For me, this represents that you will not be successful in this society unless you learn to be vicious; it's a dog eating dog world; eat or be eaten.
This is also the reason why Miharu was killing all her cellmates-- to make sure that she will always be assigned to a higher floor level every month, then she goes down along with the platform to ensure that some food will reach her daughter in level 333. She was not actually looking for her child, she knows exactly where her child is. She never taught her daughter to consume human flesh so she would always be assigned at the lowest level of The Hole. Miharu was doing all of those things to ensure that her daughter will survive.
Imoguiri said that the goal of the Hole was to create a spontaneous sense of solidarity, which is also what we need in our society. All the prisoners could have survived if only the people above would be considerate with the people below-- but greed and selfishness always get the best of us. Perhaps the solution was simple: if all the prisoners only stick on eating their favorite food then everyone will be able to eat. The Hole serves all of the prisoner's favorite dish, this was shown during the interview scene of Goreng and confirmed when he saw the Escargot on the platform for the first time when he was in level 33. It was also discovered by Goreng and Baharat at the ending of the film that they can actually keep their favorite food on their cell level without being burned or frozen to death. The Panna Cotta is the favorite food of Miharu's daughter, that's why she was able to eat it in level 333 even if the platform already went down. Goreng, who dreamed of a better society, tried his best to make the people understand how everyone can benefit if they just stop being selfish and greedy. He made the ultimate sacrifice-- he left the security and abundance of level 6 so he can show all the people how solidarity can save all of them from hunger. But greed and selfishness proved to be the stronger foe.
Finally the explanation I was looking for. Thanks a lot for the clarification.
nice analysis. Almost like you wrote the script
Holy shit, that's a great analysis. Thank you.
Great analysis
“Or it could all be just a movie 😅” P.S. I believe you but that’s what people say to me when I think like this. 😤
"What's the one item you want to bring in?"
"bomb"
Youd only have 1 use though.
@@inevitable854 A really big bomb
@@testaccount4191 like an A-bomb? Lol
@@inevitable854 Yeah, see how quickly the experiment comes to an end then.
@@testaccount4191 if I were not to be destructive, I would bring an lmg
literally everyone: cmon guys wtf
the platform: just a social experiment bro
I’m wheezing
Does anyone else wonder why the platform moved upward so fast? I think it was to prevent people from jumping on it. Upon further reflection, I wonder if Goreng got out and that the real exit, was down and not up?
Yet the plates and food were still intact. I think multiple people could've climbed on the platform like Miharu. They could've easily eaten like kings if they took turns going to the first level, unfortunately human greed wouldn't permit them to do so.
You know this movie comes into play when the Corona virus happened and people selfishly bought out toilet paper even though it wasn't really needed, while the people that needed it wasn't able to get it.
I was thinking the same thing, it highlights how stupid and short sighted the bulk of human population really is and it's just really sad to think about.
@@Unbroken_Iron merica
@@silencedgrave same in the UK (not American 😂)
The movie was made long before they knew of the Corona & TP!
@@drtruthseeker8400 hes not saying it's about corona, but that its themes are relatable to what is happening because of corona. Could link it to pretty much anything
in the middle of the movie, the main chef found a hair on the pannacotta. This actually happens after the events of the movie. The girl in level 333 never existed. He sends the Pannacotta, with a hair. But the main chef and the people in level 0 are so disconnected of the reality of the pit they ignored the message and though someone rejected the pannacotta beacuse of the hair, making everything pointless in the end. Super sad. Also, 333 floors, 666 people. Yeah, they are in hell.
I remember when I was young I read a story about hell being a giant round table with the most delicious soup in the middle. There was enough soup for everybody but they gave them giant spoons to big to be used so everybody was always hungry. Heaven was the exact same room with the one difference that here, people learned to be kind and share. So they used their giant spoons to feed each other. I believe this story was somehow inspiration for this movie.
wow thanks for that first paragraph
333rd only has one person thoo
How did this never cross my mind
What was the panacotta meant to mean?
@@frasermcardle4776 it was supposed to be a message, even after going thru all the floors they were able to team up with everybody and save food..meaning they might possibly have a chance of all rationing the food evenly (even though i think it turns out impossible). but instead of that happening, when the dude dies and walks off.....and the girl (who is actually just the representation of the panacotta i think) reaches the top, the chef sees the panacotta and instead of thinking, wow they worked together as equals...he sees the hair on it and assumes oh no one wanted it because of a hair....kinda sad ending, message was pointless at the end of the day, as the people on the 0 level are so disillusioned to what actually goes on down the levels
Miharu was bringing human flesh every month to her daughter at the bottom.
Jabara Fleming She probably ate flesh and saved good food for her daughter
but she was looking for her "son" not her daughter
that’s what i always thought
K4nzler isn't that only if you eat brain?
Why does everyone assume the little girl at the bottom is fixed there. The prisoners get changed levels so there’s no way the girl always STAYS at that bottom level. So the mom that rides the platform down has no idea that her kid is all the way at the bottom since the prisoners are constantly changing floors.
I really thought when they weren't paying attention the dog was gonna move down with the platform and get mauled by the people below as they helplessly watched, still pretty gruesome how it turned out but considering how fked it coulda been I was, lowkey glad it happened like that.
He was in there for 5 months out of 6. The movie said it. He needs 6 months to get out with the diploma. Not a year. 2 months with the oldman. 2 months with the woman. Then the last month is when they went down.
Exactly. It bugged me that he messed up like that and kept saying it throughout his “review” that was actually a movie recap. Lol
His hallucination even said that he was on level 6 at the moment. So, he could eat well now in case his next level was lower and he could survive to see his release.
The roommate was the one who had a year. I remember because he bitched and said he should come out with two degrees then.
@@CheyBabe3406 I don't understand..
Panda Bear UwU what part don’t you understand?
@@CheyBabe3406 the part about two degrees
Panda Bear UwU Goreng voluntarily went into the prison so he could get a degree/diploma (in 6 months). Trimagasi is serving a year long sentence for murder. When Goreng told Trimagasi why he was in there, Trimagasi said he should come out of there with with two diplomas since he is serving twice the time.
it's over for everyone when nikocado avocado is on the first level
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I just don’t understand the technology to heat or freeze a single room that has endless holes in the middle without effecting anyone else lol
I mean, the movie has a magic floating platform and maggots that appear out of thin air. It's not perfect lol
thefunkinator2435 I mean electromagnetism is a real thing. Not to that extent maybe but true
Maybe that’s the point. If he doesn’t put the food back he is putting others at risk.
Red Dre I’m not opposed to the idea brotha!
@@thefunkinator2435 maggots don't appear out of thin air. Flies lay eggs on them. Just because you don't see the flies doesn't mean they don't exist
This is one of the best movies I’ve ever watched in all of my years. It very much makes you take a moment to look at what you are living through.
There are lots of movies of similar quality but I'm glad you enjoyed this one! it was certainly very good.
If the people just ate the favorite food they listed, everyone would get to survive, even if it wasn't enough calories to stay super healthy.
That got proven wrong though. They said that but when they served up the food for people to take the bare minimum to survive and that only was enough to reach floor 200, there were 330 in total. And that was with them skipping the first 50 or so and then also all the people already dead. As well as that there were definitely not 666 dishes on the platform
@@clairelouise3591 they can not place the same everyday, everyone eats their favorite dish every 2 days, that makes sense for me
I woulda asked for pizza
@@mizzinfamous9746 nah man chocolate cake better
@@clairelouise3591 the solution was for the 1st 100 levels to fast for a day let the bottom levels eat they portion and alternate days like the woman and her dog
this movie just shows that sadly, we do live in a society
+Banana-kun
Yep.
Not really. It's a really gross oversimplification of society
Fox T. It was a joke, learn to get a sense of humour.
@@KVI_ohm Shut up man. First of all this comment is not even technically a joke. Usually a joke is meant to make someone laugh, and this is achieved by cleverly putting together a sentence that is funny. If you look with perspective when reading his comment, you can tell this sentence is not put together to make people laugh. Second of all I'm pretty sure that he does genuinely have a sense of humor. Everyone has a sense of humor. You look at someone who doesn't laugh at a comment that isn't even meant to be comedical, and you go "It was a joke, learn to get a sense of humour." as if he cannot even remotely find humor no matter the joke.
Ostanian Movie Company either you’re a redditor, or a Twitter warrior: so im not going to start an argument with you, because you guys blow stuff way out of proportion.
I really like the character's journey of the main character here. Like, he starts out noble and goes more brutal and insane as the story goes on but, even though he does become more "feral" in a sense, he never really loses his ideological view. Not something that you see that often, good stuff.
My interpretation is that it ends showing that he gave in and listened to his demons (the old guy) who persuaded him that his journey was done when he reached the bottom and that the message didn't need a messenger. But by not going with the girl and providing context, the chefs didn't understand the message (the hair in the dessert) so context is always needed with content.
@@Hortster The hair in the dessert wasn't from a message. In the beginning of the video you can see the head chef walking around and checking for quality control; in the hair scene, he's yelling at everyone because a hair ended up in a premium dish BEFORE IT WENT DOWN. Remember, it has to be quality, premium food cooked perfectly before they send it down.
edit: keep in mind, the head chef also lined the cooks up to compare the hair and find who dropped it - implying only the cooks were responsible, because no one else had interacted with the food yet.
@@RuFi0000000 I think it's the same dessert, the panna cotta in that scene, which could imply that the story is non-linear. It's all open to interpretation though.
@@RuFi0000000 ITS JUST ANOTHER ROUTINE ROUTE FOR THE PLATFORM THEY NEVER GAVE ANY Thought about any message
@@ThatKidWetFrom3 Why was the panna cotta the message? No food ever made it to the bottom of the hole. So, if a delicious dessert full of fat and sugar could make it to the bottom (and then back to the top level 0), then that would mean people had managed to work together.
That guy that had stacks of money stands out to me, money has no value when you're starving in a pit
The love of money..root of all evil. It's just paper. Focus on hard work, faith and wisdom. Can't take money with you to the grave but you can take your choices and your spirit.
@@iamweno3858 yeah well said
Of course the scariest movie for a UA-camr would be called "The Platform."
CZsWorld cool
CZsWorld depends what Scares you
Ah, a man of culture
CZsWorld I haven’t watched your channel in a while
Ayyy
Considering how society is asking it’s citizens to follow accordingly and everyone is grabbing all they can and not leaving enough for those in need, it really hits home.
For real, kinda had this visceral feeling while watching because of the current situation with COVID-19
Ironically, the people who are "trying" to stand out from society only to repeat the cycle again by forcing others to follow what THEY think is better and morally superior than before.
It's actually VERY ironic... But also I have found that the people yelling for everyone to "be fair" are also those that give up the quickest and do just what they are yelling about. The ONLY way will be when the Government steps in and begins rationing out for us and raiding the ones who have bought up everything and hoarded for themselves. And believe me... that will start happening sooner than you think... in fact, I really think that if we don't see it start within the next month (if the infection rate of Coronavirus doesn't begin to seriously slow by then), then we will be really lucky. So, mark my words, we will probably have a communistic/socialist lifestyle before this entire thing is over... and the Democrats will have won and gained EXACTLY what they wanted. Also... everything playing out the way it is, is why I REALLY believe this virus was built and planned by the Democrats and the Chinese Government, TOGETHER, as a New World Order maker. You ALL will see... It's GOING to happen.
@@weareeverywhere6677 lol.
Humans are selfish and stupid af. Wish i was born a fish.
What's the one item you want to bring in?
"Jetpack!"
Edit: This is crazy this is the first time I have received so many likes for my comments
Thank you so much
But then it might run out of fuel... You just need to use it once per month though...
This is Genius.
How about a UNO Reverse card? Whenever you end up in the bottom, you use it to get to the top.
That’s what I was thinking throughout the whole movie
10 tons of canned food lol🤪
The prisoners not being allowed to keep the food and store it for later signifies that in society, holding onto resources and wealth is a luxury only the people at the top get to have. Also that it is hard for people who aren't at the top to manage and maintain money and power because of the scarce rations. Everything about this movie was sooooooo deep.
no its just stupid, imagine people in the higher floors just swiping all the food onto their floors, you’re trying so hard to make it symbolical that you’re blocking your thinking from common sense.
@@Sh3wbsit literally IS symbolical. although this comment isn’t quiet right, and could be interpreted in different ways. they show at the very end that the dish they kept wasn’t making them freeze OR heat them to death. it was the little girl’s favorite dish. the entire movie is symbolic bro. take what you need and don’t be selfish for others. that’s the LITERAL POINTTTT of the movie
@@tripst4r256 That's not the point of the movie. The movie is very clear that there isn't ever enough food for everyone, rationed or not rationed. That's why the corpo woman hangs herself, because she realizes she's been running a human torture facility and not a social program like she thought.
@@shabadooshabadoo4918 tbh i don’t even remember watching this movie so idk u might be right 😭
@@tripst4r256 it was a good movie. You should watch it again, or watch the original Cube or the movie Parasyte, both very good and done in a similar style.
FoundFlix is lowkey one of the best channels on *The Platform*
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With that pun, I almost jumped out of the platform
I keep on thinking wouldn't the girl have been flung to the ceiling with immense force once she got to level 0 that platform was cruising
Same. I would've thought the pure pressure going up would kill a man, but when Goreng and Baharat are on level 6 they don't show the platform going up. Maybe it slows downbefore 30 or something. But the whole movie is basically social commentary wrapoed in metaphores, so i wouldn't bang my head in the wall about the details.
@@juliakercsmar6587 yea that too, guess not if the mother rides it down and up all the time circumstantially as well
Considering the platform was somehow magically descending and ascending without any mechanical assistance, I wouldn't think about it too much. But, yeah... It would be impossible to ride it up at that speed without dying.
I guess it depends on if there is a significant amount of space between floor 0 where the food is sent from and floor 1 . It may slow down a gradual pace between those floors
Lol
There’s 333 floors and I can’t help but think it’s halfway to hell
2 people on each floor
Tallest building in the world is 180 floor.
@@myes344 yes above the ground but deepest building in the world is 7,900 feet deep (2.4km) and it would easily contain 333 rooms on top of each others !
and 666 people. And only 1 table of food in a day. Every month ~600 people will die.
@@PushistayaArina more like 200 to 250...
I finally watched this movie and actually really enjoyed it. I found it to be extremely thought provoking
Id like to imagine that at the bottom most floor is an exit to the real world sort of as a reward for those brave enough to travel all the way down
id like to think that too but i hate that there's no definitive answer. the novelty of leaving an ending up to the imagination is so worn out on me to be honest.
we're just left with so many unanswered questions. like what will happen to goreng after he reached the bottom? maybe there's an exit, maybe there isn't. if there aint, is it implied that he'll just starve to death there now? it's not even a typical cell like the rest, so will the administration even relocate him at the end of the month?
also i didnt see any doors in any of the cells and there are 333 floors, so how are the staff even able to move all the inmates into different cells over one night in a verticle prison?
also is it safe to send a child up on the speeding platform for 333 cells? and if they believed that then why has none of the inmates except miharu ever just tried staying on it in order to eventually get to the top?
also the movie didn't explain the whole thing about the girl being special and why the platform didn't register that the dessert had been kept on the level. 'she's the message' didn't explain that. people speculate that she was an hallucination and that it was just the dessert that was sent up but that too sprouts more unanswered questions like how was she then seen by baharat and why goreng would hallucinate a girl instead of the boy that miharu was supposedly looking for... and if the girl was real then what will happen to her when she reaches the top (if she survives the trip)? i know the implication is that it's supposed to spark a change in the system but that's only one of a multitude of things that can happen and the movie gave no reason to believe that that particular outcome was guaranteed. so now we're left with maybes. this isn't leaving it to the imagination. it just feels incomplete.
so yeah, i was abit frustrated with the ending because i enjoyed the ride so much but the ending left me empty. great movie though and i'd recommend it.
@@wintersummer1633 I'll address quite a few of your points, then.
1. Unanswerable by nature.
2. I think there actually are doors. If you look at the walls where the numbers are etched, you'd see two lines indicating a door. The texture is different between the inside space and the outside- you can see it very clearly on the 48th floor.
3. No, it is absolutely not safe for a child. The reason why leads into the next number:
4. You've actually addressed the 'special' and 'message' part by mentioning the girl = dessert theory. We've seen our protagonist hallucinate not just one, but two people. This is important because:
5. Baharat could have also been a hallucination. We know Baharat was very much real... for most of the trip. So when was it most likely he turned into a hallucination?During the fight where Miharu was killed. Goreng had prolonged asphyxiation (damaging an already damaged brain) while Baharat was stabbed with a katana. Baharat likely lasted juuuuust long enough to save Goreng before kicking the bucket. Alternatively:
6. Goreng could have died there already. He wasn't just hallucinating, he was descending into the afterlife. I honestly, honestly do not think there are 333 floors. A prison that just so happens to hold 666 prisoners, but it's only 665 because the girl at the very bottom floor just so happened to be alone? Hell no.
7. My theory is that Goreng was so affected by Miharu, Don Quixote and the talk about God he had with Trimagasi that as he lay dying he dreamt the rest of the way down. "For neither good nor evil can last for ever; and so it follows that as evil has lasted a long time, good must now be close at hand." He wanted so badly to believe that Miharu was telling the truth, that he had a shot at saving everyone, that the administration would finally listen- but like Don Quixote, he had only gone insane.
I think they just made some of the dishes big enough that they could be shared if split correctly
Good thought but that doesn’t explain the luxurious kitchen at the top, do they parachute home every day lol
Not really the point, you're taking it too literally. Its a philosophical allegory, like Platos allegory of the cave. You are basically the chef who saw the hair in the dessert, you don't get the message sent back up. Not trying to be rude but Idk how else to explain it other than being quite blunt. This comments section is full of completely lost, overly literal interpretations. People staring too hard at the glass
Im just confused why no one has ever asked how the food platform floats like that
I think is magnetic, like bullet trains
me too
Its magic. Like not kidding
I hope this is a sarcasm, but if its not imma tell you this is a movie, a metaphorical and contemporary movie which represents the society, and I think the creator of this movie wants to send a message to the people above us not God, but yeah know, the Administration.
Captain Succulent magnets would not work on that scale without serious consequences
Is nobody going to talk about how Goreng probably died in the end? His hallucinations making him walk away saying that his journey is over? Why would he, alive and batshit crazy or not, walk away from that platform? With a 0% chance of survival? He obviously died and I don't think enough people realize that.
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@@loyalty3881 the truth must be spoken
Bunny loves TaeTae I think a lot of people realized that he was dead or at least the people and I that watched the movie together ended up making the assumption that he died
He accomplished his message, and in his mind, he no longer had a purpose to live
He is definitely dead because he walks away with dead roommate. He is able to die when he realizes that the message doesn't need him. He is referred to as Messiah several times. He dies and allows the message to stand on its own.
Thanks for this video! 10 mins into the movie, I knew there would be no way for me to stomach the whole thing.
I had to stop watching as soon as a saw the dog, i knew it wouldent end up well
The only way the metaphor fails is that the people at the top know they’ll eventually get stuck at the bottom, so they get fat like a bear for the winter. They all understand what it’s like to be hungry and eat in excess because of it. They do it out of fear and not apathy for the people below em
True since the 1% in social know they can't fail vs anyone else who know they can. So they will try to find ways to prepare themselves. Especially since they have no idea how far they will fall.
Nathan Byrne but that actually still works with the metaphor. they perpetuate the awful society theyre in bc its the only way they think they can properly survive. they fear that they'll be on the bottom next time around, so they fatten themselves up and thus seem heartless and cruel because it just keeps the cycle going. The solution would be to completely destroy and reform the whole society in the first place and blame those who created it in the first place, not those suffering within it. The people at the top could have sacrificed their lives by taking all of the food off of the platform and then freezing to death so that the whole system failed before it even started as a kind of revolution.
Plus the whole point of the movie is that it's arbitrary, when in the real world (or even just real prisons) if you put in the work then you can earn a higher spot. Make a bad decision and you lose everything.
Uh... No. I eat in excess because food tastes good.
pretty much what you said, the metaphor would work better if instead of being randomly moved to floors, people had to screw others to either maintain their status or even escalate it instead of facing the uncertainty of survival.
This movie was really unique to me. I’ve personally never seen something like this. Pretty cool imo
I would recommend snowpiercer
The cube movies are very similar also.
You should watch Circle. Just as weird
Welcome to Spain, we have weird stuff, everything you want. Nothing you can imagine.
The Cube is a lot like this.
When i see someone with a dog, i know from instinct that something WILL inevitably happen to the dog, and when it does, i cry for the dog having such sometimes shitty owner decision
Yeah it was even worse for me because one of my dogs is a daschund.
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I was laughing 🤣
@@butterwantschoclate9364 beat me to it
Tbf I'd rather my dog die in my care than die because a shelter needed to make room.
The satisfying moment when Mirahan walks like a savage over to ole dude to rescue the main character
goreng’s sentence was only 6 months not a year, he says that in the beginning. trimagassi (sp?) is the one that was in for a year i believe. it also lines up when you count the different levels he is on throughout the movie.
1 and half actually (i think)
So glad someone commented before me. Idk why but it kept bugging me he said MC had a year.
Did it not make any sense after about a day after watching it for anyone else or just me? How is the platform raised and lowered? Why doesn't the heat just rise through the giant hole in the ceiling? It clearly shows a time a little bit before now, not a futuristic one.
@@nBasedAce those are the issues you have with it
@@nBasedAce Why would you care how the plataform is raised or lowered? It's like watching Harry Potter and asking why the spells come out of the wands... Fucking stupid.
This dude and Dead Meat are my go-tos for horror
Y.U.R.T Sams! 😄
and SpookyRice 😤😤😤
@@flaminflamango5900 i fckin love spooky rice. Also try The Newbee Reviews. He's a bit of an oldie but he is hilarious!
Same dude
@@flaminflamango5900 he's more of Gore than horror but yeah he's awesome too
Rule 44 of Horror Movies: Either the Main character will die, or the dog will die, sometimes both.
In Alien the main character and cat both survive
@@Quick-Silver206 but did I say cat?
Just like John Wick
@@loogiman7179 you're Goddamn right
Meep Morp john wick isn’t a horror movie
When I was watching this movie for the first time my area actually had a small earthquake. My area never gets earthquakes and it was my first time experiencing it so I had no clue what was going on. It made the movie have a surreal feeling for me after that
my jaw dropped when i saw level “202”
Same
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going to the kitchen hits differently after watching this movie tbh
One of the ways it hits me is that I don't feel like eating much when I'm in the kitchen. This movie ruined my appetite.
I think it healed my eating disorder 🙃
I eat once a night 🌙 fast and prepare your bodys to eat small increments of food the elites will force the vaccine and than syphon the damned to the mark of the beast; Jesus christ is coming back but not before all is fulfilled. Those who try to save and keep their lives will lose it and those who lose their lives for his name will save it. You have to descend to ascend. Therefore I must decrease and he must increase. The weaker you become the stronger his voice rings within your mortal body. these dust body's that we have. I was getting satan vibes from Timarsu or whatever is name is the old man tempting the main character to eat the food go ahead cannibalise or perish! And the main character being the messiah equality and equity for all flesh i can be rightfully situated at the top of the pyramid and you all will he bowing to me and I'd have the cut of the finest dishes but instead he descended and descended to a point reaching outer darkness like the bible says in hell is outer darkness pitch black darkness. He sent the child on the platform that can signfy the world 🌎 us being the little children. I think the old man was saying she won't make it or something that's exactly what the devil would say. Jesus went to hell for 3 days of total darkness and misery to save us all. Only I wish the ending gave it justice the platform coming back down with special ops troops and government leaders picking the main character by the arms and helping him up on the platform and being zoomed all the way to "Heaven" to the administration floor where he is told that he "Passed the test" and there is 1% of people who manage to make it out. The child wasn't alone in the room there were cameras and secret doors that would allow help to the child if any prisoners would pull something funny on the child. Very good movie im disappointed in the ending 😕
@@SprDrumio64 The book of ecliastes elaborates how the social structure has been flawed since the beginning of time without a proper king who is perfect be it Jesus. The rich prosper in there wickedness and the poor suffer. Its easy to do wrong, its harder to do what's right ✅ and at the final hour When God comes back he will reward every man back whether for GOOD or for evil believe or not believe that doesn't change the outcome. You have to admit that we aren't perfect all of us have some imperfections none of us are perfect, everyone who's ever been in power had something they lacked for the people. When King Jesus comes back he will have an eternal kingdom that won't rust it will retain its luster for eternity his name will retain glory for eternity because it falls back on his literal word's which he never lied or broke for anyone. He will be compassionate and rule with mercy but he also will be a God that will rule with fire 🔥 🔥 in his eye's. He will tend to the needs of all mankind those who believed and were redeemed by his saving blood. He came on a colt and he comes again on a royal stallion to render back each to there own. This may be a movie but it throughly paints the picture of inequality. Those on the top flores indulge and those on the bottom fight to survive. Those in the middle I see as those who aren't in 3rd world country's they're surviving alright; but just getting by. Very deep.
@@zionofthetribeofLevi144k congrats, you can tell what a very obvious metaphor in a movie is about
The scariest part for me in the movie was to see moly say their was only 200 floors and when she ended up on 202 she decided to off herself, what scary is even some one who worked 25 years there didn’t even know the full story
ya but it's always like this. Even if you are in a high position , someone will always know more than u
@@normande1176 Absolutely correct!
20:28 only a person who’s played dying light will understand this full body mega yeet drop kick move.
its also present in the game Dead Island
The chef found the hair in the dessert that was sent back up and assumed that was the reason it wasn't eaten. The girl didn't exist. It demonstrates the huge disconnect between classes
Thats what i thought.... basically they failed to destroy the machinery just like irl.
So what about the mother looking for her "child" then
No, it was only showing that they care a lot about the food quality
@@hamza-trabelsi Explain why the hair was blamed on the man with pretty much no hair. Explain why the hair color was the same as on the child. Explain how a child could survive at floor 333 with literally no blood on her, no blood on her clothes, etc. It would make no sense at all if that weren't the case.
@@heckingbamboozled8097 the child was put there on purpose , and no one knows about , the child never change the level otherwise people would have known about her. they put it there after all the lower dead levels . so no one could have known about it. The question is why her mother didn't find her , she descend every month , didn't she ever try to reach level 333 ? maybe she know this , and every month she kill her cell mate to feed her child. that's why there are some blood traces on the child without even getting hurt.
Literally as soon as I watched this on Netflix I said, "I can't wait to watch the FoundFlix on this" haha
Kahle I thought the exact same thing
”social experiment”
”its just a prank bro”
maddy vanzandt *rank
Her one item was a ukulele, and she came on her own?
You could say she came out of her own ac-CHORD
some things you got wrong
1 - he only was going in for 6 months
2 - Trimagasi calls him little snail in reference to how you clean a snail before eating only when they get to level 171
Teleisha
Actually, they were transferred to level 171 after level 48
Does no one know the 2nd level.. Damm. 171
and at 12:39 he says again that hes called a snail because of his stature which doesn't make any fucking sense, these kinda ruined the video for me that he couldn't get these pretty big parts of the story correct
thank you to those who helped correct my mistakes I knew there was a one and seven but couldn't remember the sequence haha and should have looked at how to spell his name but I wrote this in my car
@@QuinnRuesga5123 definately agree this is a film where you gotta pay close attention so you understand all the moments like how the Panna Cotta that the chef's get reprimanded for is the same one from the ending
I believe he said he was only going to be in 6 months. That why they show him on 5 different floors. The floor changes once a month if im right.
Oh i see someone said it already. My bad!
He died
Very insightful
@@damoTV.damoTV from hunger
@@damoTV.damoTV or suicide
It would make sense as a Black Mirror episode.
Black Mirror episodes always revolve around technology, so I disagree.
@@josephtorres9836 treu but i geuss you can see this as a new form of prison in the future
Joseph Torres How does a giant moving platform the magically floats up and down throughout a prison not consist of technology?
@@ashleysartattack5600 You said it yourself. Magical. Not technological.
@@unkownboi67is_unavailable62 That just makes it dystopian
My biggest issue with this movie is that the real world message is far more clear than the actual plot lol
Any time a movie or tv show character is reading Don Quixote I'm like "oh alright, I guess it's one of *those* stories"
For me it's when someone is reading Infinity Jest
Max Hyde 🤣
What do you mean by "one of those stories?"
literally have no idea what this means
A tale about the nature of man, usually portrayed brutally so. That's what they mean.
"What's the item you'd like to bring?"
...
"Death Note"
But how would you know everyone’s name and face?😮
Would've brought the vampire mask to make minions.
SaladTrumpetMan i see you’re a man of culture
Le Monke Hell thats good thinking. Especially the multivitamins.
@Le Monke but which one of these if just one
My question is: Why is it always Goreng who wakes up last? Like, everytime he wakes up, someone has either hanged themselves or is about to kill him. Why don't he wake up earlier?
Maybe because he wasn't eating as much? Most drugs leave the body sooner if you eaten or it get's absorbed less. It could also symbolize his lack of mental understanding of the system, which is why he gets called a snail.
@@YurrahAlHadi But neither did Imoguiri? And she hung herself (seems like) long before Goreng woke up? He ate more than her.
because he lived a privileged life before where oversleeping was one of many of his exercised rights
@@xx1443 Yeah, could be. I'm just making up my own theories haha
Maybe he just doesn't handle sedation well. It happens
I love how the guy insists that 48 is actually pretty decent level lmao
It really is, you still get handfuls of food at that point, you aren't gnawing bone marrow.
This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes: "nearly all men can stand against adversity, but if you wish to test a man's character, give him power."
-Abraham Lincoln
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The fact that people’s favorite food would be included means that there could potentially be enough dishes for everyone
@Shannon Marie there's plenty of prosperity in America as long as you're not lazy.
@@zanetrain1651 There IS plenty or prosperity for the ones who are connected and allowed by those to enter the class that runs the nation. Just the fact that most small business are allowed to be targeted and shut down by the big business is a perfect example of how the 1% control wealth. A PERFECT example of this is how GameStop will sue and shutdown ANY "Mom and Pop" video game retailer out there that trades in games (like trading in video games was THEIR idea only). IF you HAPPEN to make the UPPER class contacts and you HAPPEN to be ACCEPTED by the UPPER class then you will either be allowed to continue... Or, if you are a REAL threat to them then you may be offered a good amount to be purchased and "merge" with the big business and allowed to stay with the "parent" company as upper management. AGAIN, GameStop being the PERFECT example... If the "Mom and Pop" video game retailer is really prosperous, and has several locations, then GameStop will go in and BUY the chain and then it will keep the employees on during the "changeover" to GameStop, but then it will bring in its own management team about 3-6 months after the "changeover" because of "shrink" problems (even though nobody of the "Mom and Pop" stores EVER stole before) and then all the old employees (one by one) will be fired and replaced with GameStop automatons.
@Shannon Marie I agree, for ppl who are lazy and make a lot of excuses there is very little upward mobility. You should stop making excuses and toughen up.
Shannon Marie that’s why my grandpa born into a family with little money and 4 siblings is the owner of a law firm and lives financially comfortable. Maybe if you work hard you can move up, that’s the point.
@@weareeverywhere6677 First of all, I refuse to believe that gamestop can shut down another store that does video game trade ins.. That sounds completely made up and you need to show evidence. Thats equivalent to McDonalds shutdown Burger King or BlockBuster shutting down easy video.
Next you explain that a person signs a bad contract (making a bad decision) and partners with Gamestop.
Haha some people just love to make excuses for either not working hard enough or making bad choices
I thought it was weird how the main character always woke up after the other cell mate
amigopuerco it outlines his privilege
@@happypuppies8888 That makes no sense
Jack Ripley
Ok heres some examples of Goreng’s privilege in the story
1) he did not know where his acceptance from the administration lied (he didnt know he was going to the pit) 2) He was picky with his food.
3) he brought a book
im saying the movie made an effort to outline his privilege in an effort for the audience to consider how Goreng is not that much different from ourselves, and that it’s incredibly difficult for any privileged life to survive in the wild.
Vis-a-vis Goreng oversleeping on level 202 (edit: 171). Hope that clears some things up.
@@happypuppies8888 Maybe if everyone stuck to a single definition of privilege this shit would make more sense.
Trimagasi notes that Goreng sleeps very soundly when he wakes tied up on level 171, which I believe is meant to address that. The sleeping gas was probably more effective on him than the people he was paired with - that kind of individual variability happens with general anaesthesia in real life too.
The soultion for me was if everyone just ate the dish they spoke off in the interview everyone would have gotten what they acutally suppose to get regardless of thier level
Me after reading your comment -->🤯 It's 3:26 A.M. I just finished the movie then decided to watch this because I couldn't rap my head around it now I'm reading your comment and you just blew my mind! Your fu**ing awesome!