Brilliant video as always 🎉 what would you say have been your biggest challenge with Preservative ECO in testing phase? I'm having a hard time finding other alternatives that are COSMOS approved
Honestly, I've not had issues with it. I'd say to use the max recommended percent for the product your are making. The scent is a bit of a challenge if you don't like the smell of almonds. It's worth checking out ISCA cosmetic testing as they have some preservatives that may help you.
Phenoxyethanl ehg had a maximum usage rate of 1.1% I tend to use 1% in my formulations unless I am working with botanicals. Technically an anhydrous lipstick does not require a preservative, but if selling products to customers I like to include one. To scale up your percentages to grams move the decimal point of your percentage included (in this case 1%) two to the left giving you you 0.01 then multiply it by the batch amount you want to make. So if you want to make a 500g batch of lipstick then do 0.01 x 500 = 5g So you'd use 5g in a 500g batch. However, it's possible it would be suitably protected with less given it's anhydrous, so you'd need to do your own testing and also check that the brand you are using is suitable for lip products by checking the MSDS and IFRA documents. Hope that helped, and thanks for watching.
Thank you for this sis, pls do u have a reputable online resource to learn about the different classes of formulation ingredients e.g emulsifiers, surfactants, etc
Hi, I don't have any one resource, I learned by doing a lot of internet searches, fact-checking against different sites and books to ensure the information was correct and doing my own experiments. I am releasing a 'beginners formulation course' in the coming months which may help.
US based, but aware that UK guidelines are more stringent. None of these seem to be readily available to me. Several optiphen are. Could you help me flesh that out.
You can Google the name of the preservatives I suggest and 'alternative names' and you should get some results if they are available for you, otherwise I suggest checking out @TaraLeee 's channel and her video on preservatives here, as she is US based ua-cam.com/video/R5KUYUOuJgg/v-deo.htmlsi=k8rQSA-ceB_WOtCn
Hi just wondering why plantaserv M might not be suitable for use with clays? is it just not strong enough or do some of the ingredients have a reaction with the clay?
Plantserve M / Preservative Eco isn’t as easy to work with as others anyway so I wouldn’t like it’s chances with clay. You can try it… I’m not saying other preservatives are impossible to preserve clays with, it’s just very difficult as the clay tends to ‘suck them up’ leaving the rest of the product unpreserved. I’ve only had luck with Preservative K, so that’s what I recommend from personal experience.
@@revegacosmetics thanks so much for your response, it's super hard to find information and studies on a lot of preservatives. Might try it out in conjunction with the hurdle technique and see what happens! Thanks for your videos :) Love it
Both chemicals you have listed are not preservatives, but they work on enhancing the effect of the preservatives by increasing their penetration through the cell membranes (of the microbes). So you'd have a literally unpreserved product, not a preserved one with a "masked" preservative.
Hi! Can I use phenoxyethanol at 0.10%-0.30% to preserve lipstick? I ask this because Whenever I use tkb trading preservative cap-2 (Caprylyl Glycol, Phenoxyethanol, Hexylene Glycol) in my lipsticks in makes my lip burn. I want to sell my lipsticks but I’m afraid a customer will complain of it burning their lip. I notice phenoxyethanol in commercial lipsticks, but they never make my lip burn. So I’m wondering what percentage they are using it at. Also, could you recommend other preservatives for lipsticks that isn’t know for causing lip irritation?
Whether or not someone gets a reaction is completely down to their tolerance of ingredients. Usage rates for ingredients will be provided by the supplier you purchase from and the manufacturers information. It depends whether you are purchasing Phenoxyethanol alone or Phenoxyethanol ehg. I use the later at 1% in lipsticks, but a lipstick is technically anhydrous so you don’t strictly need one, but I like to include to protect the user since you don’t know how they would be storing it. If making just for yourself though, you could omit if you prefer.
@@revegacosmetics thank you for the fast response. The preservative is not phenoxyethanol alone. It is a mixture of phenoxyethanol, caprylyl glycol and hexylene glycol. The recommended usage is confusing. Tkb trading and making cosmetics both sell this product, but under different names. Making cosmetics says it has to be used between 0.50%-1.50%. However in tkb trading website, it says this same product can be used at 0.10%-0.20%, but only in loose or pressed powders? It can be used at 0.50%-1.50% in creams and lotions. But it has to be used at 0.80%-1% in lip products? Maybe I should message them about it. I know Lipsticks are not as likely to grow mold. But I had an experience where I made lip gloss that started growing mold. I thinking it’s because I added wax to it and had to heat it up. But maybe I capped it in the tube too early and allowed moisture to get trapped in it. To think I could’ve sold that to someone and that happened terrifies me. So I’d rather include a preservative.
@@covegirl06Ok, well I’m in the UK so have different options available to me and this the video is aimed at UK makers. You’ll need to talk to your suppliers and go with their recommendations. There are many instances where companies will have what looks like the same product, but it will be different, so alway go with the information from where you purchase.
If you are formulating you’ll need to get familiar with percentages. A formula will add to 100% so if the preservative has a usage rate of 1% it will be used at 1% and the rest of the formula will make up 99%.
@@revegacosmetics I get you. Thank you for this. I’m in the process of formulating a Hair Tea (scalp Toner) 150ml. Your video is really useful. After watching it I’ve changed my mind from the preservative eco. I’ll use another one you have mentioned.
Thank you so much for explaining the preservative functions, limitations and alternative names in the UK. ❤
Jenna this was so so so helpful !❤
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Thankss❤ very informative and helpful❤
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Gosh, just found your channel. So helpful coming from the UK.
Glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching.
Brilliant video as always 🎉 what would you say have been your biggest challenge with Preservative ECO in testing phase? I'm having a hard time finding other alternatives that are COSMOS approved
Honestly, I've not had issues with it. I'd say to use the max recommended percent for the product your are making. The scent is a bit of a challenge if you don't like the smell of almonds. It's worth checking out ISCA cosmetic testing as they have some preservatives that may help you.
Thank you so much for the video.
May i ask about the percentage to use ehg in lipstick or lipgloss..how much to use for 500 gm/ml
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Phenoxyethanl ehg had a maximum usage rate of 1.1% I tend to use 1% in my formulations unless I am working with botanicals. Technically an anhydrous lipstick does not require a preservative, but if selling products to customers I like to include one.
To scale up your percentages to grams move the decimal point of your percentage included (in this case 1%) two to the left giving you you 0.01 then multiply it by the batch amount you want to make. So if you want to make a 500g batch of lipstick then do 0.01 x 500 = 5g So you'd use 5g in a 500g batch.
However, it's possible it would be suitably protected with less given it's anhydrous, so you'd need to do your own testing and also check that the brand you are using is suitable for lip products by checking the MSDS and IFRA documents.
Hope that helped, and thanks for watching.
Thank you for this sis, pls do u have a reputable online resource to learn about the different classes of formulation ingredients e.g emulsifiers, surfactants, etc
Hi, I don't have any one resource, I learned by doing a lot of internet searches, fact-checking against different sites and books to ensure the information was correct and doing my own experiments. I am releasing a 'beginners formulation course' in the coming months which may help.
What is the live span of the preservative
US based, but aware that UK guidelines are more stringent. None of these seem to be readily available to me. Several optiphen are. Could you help me flesh that out.
You can Google the name of the preservatives I suggest and 'alternative names' and you should get some results if they are available for you, otherwise I suggest checking out @TaraLeee 's channel and her video on preservatives here, as she is US based ua-cam.com/video/R5KUYUOuJgg/v-deo.htmlsi=k8rQSA-ceB_WOtCn
Hi just wondering why plantaserv M might not be suitable for use with clays? is it just not strong enough or do some of the ingredients have a reaction with the clay?
Plantserve M / Preservative Eco isn’t as easy to work with as others anyway so I wouldn’t like it’s chances with clay. You can try it… I’m not saying other preservatives are impossible to preserve clays with, it’s just very difficult as the clay tends to ‘suck them up’ leaving the rest of the product unpreserved. I’ve only had luck with Preservative K, so that’s what I recommend from personal experience.
@@revegacosmetics thanks so much for your response, it's super hard to find information and studies on a lot of preservatives. Might try it out in conjunction with the hurdle technique and see what happens! Thanks for your videos :) Love it
Hi, If i wanted to go down the preservative free route for a face wash , could I use capryl glycol and ethylhexylglycerin?
I’d never go preservative free, so can’t advise on this I’m afraid.
Both chemicals you have listed are not preservatives, but they work on enhancing the effect of the preservatives by increasing their penetration through the cell membranes (of the microbes). So you'd have a literally unpreserved product, not a preserved one with a "masked" preservative.
Hi! Can I use phenoxyethanol at 0.10%-0.30% to preserve lipstick? I ask this because Whenever I use tkb trading preservative cap-2 (Caprylyl Glycol, Phenoxyethanol, Hexylene Glycol) in my lipsticks in makes my lip burn. I want to sell my lipsticks but I’m afraid a customer will complain of it burning their lip. I notice phenoxyethanol in commercial lipsticks, but they never make my lip burn. So I’m wondering what percentage they are using it at.
Also, could you recommend other preservatives for lipsticks that isn’t know for causing lip irritation?
Whether or not someone gets a reaction is completely down to their tolerance of ingredients.
Usage rates for ingredients will be provided by the supplier you purchase from and the manufacturers information. It depends whether you are purchasing Phenoxyethanol alone or Phenoxyethanol ehg. I use the later at 1% in lipsticks, but a lipstick is technically anhydrous so you don’t strictly need one, but I like to include to protect the user since you don’t know how they would be storing it. If making just for yourself though, you could omit if you prefer.
@@revegacosmetics thank you for the fast response. The preservative is not phenoxyethanol alone. It is a mixture of phenoxyethanol, caprylyl glycol and hexylene glycol. The recommended usage is confusing. Tkb trading and making cosmetics both sell this product, but under different names.
Making cosmetics says it has to be used between 0.50%-1.50%. However in tkb trading website, it says this same product can be used at 0.10%-0.20%, but only in loose or pressed powders? It can be used at 0.50%-1.50% in creams and lotions. But it has to be used at 0.80%-1% in lip products? Maybe I should message them about it.
I know Lipsticks are not as likely to grow mold. But I had an experience where I made lip gloss that started growing mold. I thinking it’s because I added wax to it and had to heat it up. But maybe I capped it in the tube too early and allowed moisture to get trapped in it. To think I could’ve sold that to someone and that happened terrifies me. So I’d rather include a preservative.
@@covegirl06Ok, well I’m in the UK so have different options available to me and this the video is aimed at UK makers. You’ll need to talk to your suppliers and go with their recommendations.
There are many instances where companies will have what looks like the same product, but it will be different, so alway go with the information from where you purchase.
@@revegacosmetics ok. Thank you!
When you say usage of 1% what does that mean? Do you mean add 1% of the overall content?
If you are formulating you’ll need to get familiar with percentages. A formula will add to 100% so if the preservative has a usage rate of 1% it will be used at 1% and the rest of the formula will make up 99%.
@@revegacosmetics I get you. Thank you for this. I’m in the process of formulating a Hair Tea (scalp Toner) 150ml. Your video is really useful. After watching it I’ve changed my mind from the preservative eco. I’ll use another one you have mentioned.
@@WildPotionLondon I do love preservative eco, but it depends what I’m using it in and I do a long stability test. Glad you found it helpful.