Shame you can't attach a Bone Singer to the Wraithknight, would make it nigh unkillable. Saying that it only says the Bone Singer has to be within 3' of a Wraith Construct to restore D3 wounds. And when it's within 3' it gets the Lone Operative ability
Thanks for this video. Interesting analysis for WKnight in the current state of 10th. I slightly regret I glued the scattershield to my suncannon-Knight.
Dude tyvm it is my pleasure! Thanks for the support 😊 Ya dude I feel you on the Shield, you can always tell people that it’s a “shield cannon” and just count it as a Wraithcannon! IMHO the shield looks so cool!
510 point cost is too high for its very low volume of attacks, limited melee strength unless you take the sword which further limits its volume of attacks. 2+ save is nice but no invuln save makes it die very fast to anti vehicle attacks. Also it is not a titanic character so it cannot koolaid man like knights, and it cannot shoot and do an action like imperial knights.
You are high on the copium, no offense. Imperial and Chaos Knights have more firepower and survivability for 100-150+ points less. And let's face it, the Eldar suck now, our army rule has been nerfed into worthlessness and our detachment is utter meh. The Eldar were OP at the beginning of 10th but the consecutive nerfs went overboard as usual and were accompanied by a series of punitive points increases on all our good units who were of course dependent on that army rule having value. But when the army rule was "fixed" the punitive points increases stayed and remained a trend even. This has happened for the past 3 editions and is obviously the GW game plan for Eldar going forward. OP out of the gate, nerf the mechanics into oblivion but leave the punitive points increases that came with the nerfs to effectively neuter the whole faction. The only people even playing Eldar are either highly skilled competitors proving these skills by accepting the disadvantage or dedicated nuts like myself. I mean really, +25 points for Yvraine? Were Ynnari even winning any tournaments? Was the Ynnari win rate even over 40%? Punitive Nerfs
@@theophrastusbomblastus821 The Eldar don’t suck man I’m sorry but that is a bad take. The army ability isn’t great but the detachment is one of the most useful in the entire game even if personally I think it’s boring. One of the first things I said in this video was that the Wraithknight may not be ultra competitive but it’s better than people think in semi competitive and casual settings and can still be awesome at your LGS. Maybe even an RTT and less competitive tournaments. Context is everything dude. As for Imperial or Chaos knights the -1 to damage often offsets the 4 extra wounds that the knights get and the wraithknight can hit a lot harder. Knights are not as durable as you would think the 5++ doesn’t do a lot imho
@@Sealbag I mean to each their own 🤷♂️ my issue with his statements was that his reasoning for them being “trash” were just not true from a mathematical standpoint, the only true statement being that the Wraithknight is overcosted which I agree I think it’s about 30pts too high
P-Nexus games allow half the army to be placed in strategic reserve and/or deep strike, this makes it possible for the WK to be placed in strategic reserve.
@@fenristhor9204 not quite. Strategic reserves (units with deep strike and aircraft) and regular reserves (all units that dont deepstrike) have separate point totals that can go into them. 25% of the army size. So while yes, you can start with 1000/2000 points on field; the 510 point wraithknight exceeds 25% by 10 points and it would start in regular reserves if it was able to, which it cannot.
Welp if you were wrong the first time maybe you’re wrong now. Maybe the wraith knights are just good enough? Not as click baity a title I’ll grant you but all things in moderation.
Ya I don’t think I’m wrong on this one my friend, they have all the tools to be good in the settings I described in the video just a tad too expensive 😊
I just used Wraithknight with double HWC AND an Avatar vs a monster heavy Tyranids army and it was extremely funny. My opponent had to hide 3 exocrines, 2 maleceptors, a hive tyrant, a Tyrannofex and 3 carnifexes behind one big ruin in a corner of his deployment zone.
According to PN mission rule’s apparently you can have up to half your forces in strat reserve now…still need to double check but people have been telling me I missed that in the mission update
I will definitely retry one in a test game as soon as possible. For durability, I think an attention point is playing against Tau, I saw in an online battle report one skatach being killed at range in one single activation, but I never checked the math against the regular wraithknight
My meta is so full of tanks and knights, the wraithknight never was bad around here. 😅 Suncannon I really still dont feel tho. Vs 4++ it kills like 3 teq. If they have only three wounds, no -damage and no fnp. Which most of the better ones have. That i can pretty much do with the heavy wraithcannon.
@@ProxyHammer1 but what doesnt? 😅. I have windriders for that. What the wraithknight needs is a profile split. Because lets be honest, what we really want to play is sword and board.😅
Leman Russ drivers angry when the 8 foot superhuman, that can lift cars and run 40mph in 1,000lbs of armor, casually steps out of the way when it attempts to run him over
@ProxyHammer1 Not to mention that vehicles can just light up anything it's locked in combat with. Giving them good melee too would just turn this already T12 focused edition into a box car derby.
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Get in the wraithknight shinji
Yes!!! Of course!! 😎🔥
Oh, its been years and i still have no idea what the fug was going on. Bots were cool tho
@@Vungiel Absolutely!
I actually had a list at one point brewed that was triple wraithknights and they wouls be painted with each of the 3 Eva's scheme.
@@ZenofPainting nice I love that!
It warms my heart every time you say it! ;)
😊❤️
Shooting custodes tanks of the table feels absolutely incredible
Abso fucking lutely!!!
Lol the fact that they made them 510 points on purpose is one of the biggest reasons why they are awful. They aren't competitive.
@@clidefrog2 Not super competitive but still good imho at least in casual/semi competitive
Shame you can't attach a Bone Singer to the Wraithknight, would make it nigh unkillable. Saying that it only says the Bone Singer has to be within 3' of a Wraith Construct to restore D3 wounds. And when it's within 3' it gets the Lone Operative ability
I really like bonesingers! only 45pts too!!
I only found out they exist when I seen them on Battle Scribe and now I want one 😂
Wait bonesingers? Where are they at
@@lordkroak6670 Legends 😉
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I think these guys should be at 430 points instead of 510, yeah they are that overcosted ^^
I agree they need a points cut
@@malekith13 lower
Thanks for this video. Interesting analysis for WKnight in the current state of 10th.
I slightly regret I glued the scattershield to my suncannon-Knight.
Dude tyvm it is my pleasure! Thanks for the support 😊
Ya dude I feel you on the Shield, you can always tell people that it’s a “shield cannon” and just count it as a Wraithcannon! IMHO the shield looks so cool!
510 point cost is too high for its very low volume of attacks, limited melee strength unless you take the sword which further limits its volume of attacks.
2+ save is nice but no invuln save makes it die very fast to anti vehicle attacks.
Also it is not a titanic character so it cannot koolaid man like knights, and it cannot shoot and do an action like imperial knights.
I mean if it’s in cover it’s saving on a 4+ vs most anti large and at worse a 5+
Never doubt me.
When have I ever my Asur!!! 🙏
The audio sounds great! Keep up the good work.
Thank you my friend!
@@ProxyHammer1 what did you change? Didja try out the high pass filter?
@@captaincorundum9788 I used my phone which is now fixed. My computer probably still has issues and I need a new mic for it
@@ProxyHammer1 Nice!
You are high on the copium, no offense. Imperial and Chaos Knights have more firepower and survivability for 100-150+ points less. And let's face it, the Eldar suck now, our army rule has been nerfed into worthlessness and our detachment is utter meh. The Eldar were OP at the beginning of 10th but the consecutive nerfs went overboard as usual and were accompanied by a series of punitive points increases on all our good units who were of course dependent on that army rule having value. But when the army rule was "fixed" the punitive points increases stayed and remained a trend even. This has happened for the past 3 editions and is obviously the GW game plan for Eldar going forward. OP out of the gate, nerf the mechanics into oblivion but leave the punitive points increases that came with the nerfs to effectively neuter the whole faction. The only people even playing Eldar are either highly skilled competitors proving these skills by accepting the disadvantage or dedicated nuts like myself. I mean really, +25 points for Yvraine? Were Ynnari even winning any tournaments? Was the Ynnari win rate even over 40%? Punitive Nerfs
i guess you should figure out how to play the game then? but you might be the type who needs the autopilot to play an army the world may never know
@@theophrastusbomblastus821 The Eldar don’t suck man I’m sorry but that is a bad take. The army ability isn’t great but the detachment is one of the most useful in the entire game even if personally I think it’s boring.
One of the first things I said in this video was that the Wraithknight may not be ultra competitive but it’s better than people think in semi competitive and casual settings and can still be awesome at your LGS. Maybe even an RTT and less competitive tournaments. Context is everything dude.
As for Imperial or Chaos knights the -1 to damage often offsets the 4 extra wounds that the knights get and the wraithknight can hit a lot harder. Knights are not as durable as you would think the 5++ doesn’t do a lot imho
@@derekjohnson3417 Some people just read the tournament stats 🫤 they can’t really think for themselves
Says no offense. Offends.
@@Sealbag I mean to each their own 🤷♂️ my issue with his statements was that his reasoning for them being “trash” were just not true from a mathematical standpoint, the only true statement being that the Wraithknight is overcosted which I agree I think it’s about 30pts too high
P-Nexus games allow half the army to be placed in strategic reserve and/or deep strike, this makes it possible for the WK to be placed in strategic reserve.
Nice did not know that!! Tyvm man! 😎🙏
@@fenristhor9204 not quite. Strategic reserves (units with deep strike and aircraft) and regular reserves (all units that dont deepstrike) have separate point totals that can go into them. 25% of the army size.
So while yes, you can start with 1000/2000 points on field; the 510 point wraithknight exceeds 25% by 10 points and it would start in regular reserves if it was able to, which it cannot.
Yriel can strategic reserve a single Wraithknight
Technically he can strat reserve 3 of them if he wanted to lol 😂
Welp if you were wrong the first time maybe you’re wrong now. Maybe the wraith knights are just good enough? Not as click baity a title I’ll grant you but all things in moderation.
Ya I don’t think I’m wrong on this one my friend, they have all the tools to be good in the settings I described in the video just a tad too expensive 😊
I just used Wraithknight with double HWC AND an Avatar vs a monster heavy Tyranids army and it was extremely funny. My opponent had to hide 3 exocrines, 2 maleceptors, a hive tyrant, a Tyrannofex and 3 carnifexes behind one big ruin in a corner of his deployment zone.
Haha that is pretty funny but ya the WK will destroy those targets with ease!
Wait, wait, wait...what about Wraithknight variants vs. Imperial/Chaos knights? hmm? What about them apples?
Ye of little faith
My next video! Wraithknight variants!
@@ProxyHammer1 You tickle me so, when I finish painting my army I'll make a Wraithblade Jetbike. (Probably 3 years from now)
@@SanDan3rdDan LOL wraithblade on jetbike i love it!
I thought I wanted biker sisters the most... that I was content with my biker elves... I was so wrong. Thread is cursed knowledge.
Its shelved :) to expensive to even have in strategic reserve
According to PN mission rule’s apparently you can have up to half your forces in strat reserve now…still need to double check but people have been telling me I missed that in the mission update
I will definitely retry one in a test game as soon as possible. For durability, I think an attention point is playing against Tau, I saw in an online battle report one skatach being killed at range in one single activation, but I never checked the math against the regular wraithknight
Hammerheads will absolutely wreck them and lethals are very strong but maybe a fortune could keep one alive pretty well
Keen to get the WK out again for funsies
Same here! Going to start using it more regularly
My meta is so full of tanks and knights, the wraithknight never was bad around here. 😅
Suncannon I really still dont feel tho. Vs 4++ it kills like 3 teq. If they have only three wounds, no -damage and no fnp. Which most of the better ones have.
That i can pretty much do with the heavy wraithcannon.
I really like the Suncannon for its ability to slaughter MEQ as well. Especially if it spikes!
@@ProxyHammer1 but what doesnt? 😅. I have windriders for that.
What the wraithknight needs is a profile split. Because lets be honest, what we really want to play is sword and board.😅
@@johannes8270 Dude I'm really hoping for that! It will be my next video!
HOW DO YOU KEEP GUESSING WHAT I'M USING IN MY NEXT GAME?!🤣🤣🤣
Lmfao great minds and all that you know ;)
510 is too much. Its a fun choice not a smart choice. No amount of random videos will change that
Random videos?? Lmfao.. my Asur this was planned MF may the Wraithknight slay many mon keigh!!
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My Asur!!! 😎
just take the avatar
Wraithknight has bigger guns 😎😉 and is cool! A good change of pace!
@@ProxyHammer1 Why not both Avatars and a Wraithknight? ._.
@@norsly You definitely could!!
Yeah NGL the wraithknight is so points intensive, it's an awesome unit but I just don't see it until we get our 'Dex.
@@ZenofPainting I actually think it’s pretty good despite the points cost if you can keep it alive it will dominate
Titanic units and tanks in general having pathetic melee profile is a game design flop
I mean how strong should tanks realistically be in combat?
Leman Russ drivers angry when the 8 foot superhuman, that can lift cars and run 40mph in 1,000lbs of armor, casually steps out of the way when it attempts to run him over
@@humantwist-offcap9514 This exactly lol 😂
@ProxyHammer1 Not to mention that vehicles can just light up anything it's locked in combat with. Giving them good melee too would just turn this already T12 focused edition into a box car derby.
@@ZenofPainting True!