After this scene, Crowley goes to the creche, finds the guards crushed to a pulp and the babies gone, he then realises he killed a regular shifter and the Alpha pulled a fast one.
Sometimes you need to torture somebody to find out they know nothing or will say nothing. Too smart, too stubborn, too dedicated or... a sinking feeling that they have something more to lose than their own death or torture. What Crowley didn't get to, and knew he'd never get to, was likely that the Alpha knew the Leviathans in purgatory were top dogs. One of the Leviathans, Edgar once said he knew Eve. He diminished her, colorfully, and the Alpha's were her children. It's very likely that this head shifter knows that Leviathan are all that's truly in Purgatory - the souls are tainted by their presence. You can't tell Crowley about the Leviathans - for he might decide to release them specifically, or tell someone else, and telling them there's a creature beyond all others... if it wasn't Crowley, it'd be someone else who'd go hunting for them. You don't talk about Leviathans and you don't let them out. Worse, Eve had a hold on people. She managed to amp up the bloodthirst of even the most dedicated vegan vampires to levels they couldn't control. Eve's control was absolute - and likely, over centuries, that control and dominance asserted over her "children" was not only physical, but had become totally and emphatic dedication. Crowley very likely suspected this from the start and was simply looking for confirmation, and this creature's silence in the face of adversity confirmed it. Leviathans are top dogs - scarier than torture, annihilation and the destruction of his own species. Crowley was always looking at all the angles, there's many times where his actions don't strap up to his words. When they go to see Death, Crowley suggests going for pizza. Dean writes it off. Later, Crowley tries to signal the pizza joint to Dean. Finally he pulls up alongside him and downright tells him, realizing that Dean won't care HOW Crowley knew Death would be in that specific pizzeria... even before they went out... and why Crowley would want to be there, but not close enough to talk or interact with Death. Moments like this are never brought up in the show, but there's many times you can see Crowley spinning wheels that make little to no sense - tantalizing trailing ends of him not sharing information, or manipulating to ends we never even think to ask about. Hopefully one day if they ever pick the show back up, they'll acknowledge Crowley's machinations very likely exceeded everyone's wildest imaginations. Meg's character said it best... "When are you going to get it? Crowley's ALWAYS the one to be afraid of."
I think Alister was the perfected torturer since he trained and made Dean break, Crowley I think was just Liliths trusted and strongest Crossroad Demon.
@@BigMac8000 I would agree Leviathans would level everyone as they did with the angels, I definitely think Eve was the strongest who even they despised by Edgars tone, And after what she can do, and even her son the Alpha being able to fight off Edgar whos possibly the strongest Leviathan depending on how You look at Dick (Not literally)
Hunter Onnen no his real body is rotten, only the bones are left you can see them in the episode „weekend at bobbys“ from season 6 and they‘re also mentioned in season 9
@@JnEricsonx I was gonna say, yeah it's rare, but current price is ~$185 per gram. Not cheap by any means, but nowhere near the cost of a castle for that knife.
Its not just the rarity of the object. It's also the demand for it. Diamonds are quite rare, they are valuable because people want diamond rings. No one wants iridium rings.
We gotta remeber mosnt the demons we see a really old.crowly was born in like the 1400s and he is the king of cross roads it makes sense over the years he was smart.to collect trade onject over the years to keep up.with modern currency changes. And stay wealthy. But money really means nothing to.a demon who.looks at the bigger picture.all the time
@@doctor4961 Except for the fact that it was mentioned that Leviathans will eat everything. Castiel even once said: "They're the piranha that would eat the whole aquarium". So while they seem to prefer human meat they will also eat monsters. As an example Dick Roman once ate one of his subordinate Leviathans for failing to retrieve a special package.
It's the same concept as with the Leviathans that season, really old monsters can't be harmed by anything found in nature, or at least nothing that's laying around for the mining. Only through humanity's long existence and development of science that we happened to concoct a few things with random combinations harmful to them.
@Solrac it was added lore, Supernatural was supposed to end after season 5, I personally loved the concept of the alpha monsters especially the Alpha Vampire but, the writers dropped the ball.
@@LordHayabusa85 You're right Supernatural was supposed to end after season 5 they kind of added this the lore, one of the more decent ideas but Supernatural still went downhill afterwards
the alpha's of each species were not always affected by the same things their kin were, in the same way higher tier demons arent killed by the demon knife or corrupted Cas was no longer affected by the angel blade.
Iridium? Like in the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago? Interesting choice, maybe that's what Chuck used to get rid of the Leviathans back then as well? Or -- are they the same thing??!!
iridium is a rare earth metal, its found on earth too, in layers in the crust, the iridium deposited on earth are from meteor impact, not just the KPG extinction asteroid.
Didn't know who was more monster here a demon torturing a monster to find purgatory or the shapeshifter who told said demon to kill his offspring invisible words we can always make more
SPN..always interesting ! This scene is just like the angel statute that was at my infant daughter's (Miya Jane Justeson 2/23/2007-3/18/2007), gravesite. Some psychopath (Dark Triad/ASPD) cut the head off of the statue !!
I could watch Sheppard act all day. That man's charisma is unreal
Hahahaha, this scene is just way too brilliant. I friggin love Crowley, he is truly one helluva character, gotta love this guy.
After this scene, Crowley goes to the creche, finds the guards crushed to a pulp and the babies gone, he then realises he killed a regular shifter and the Alpha pulled a fast one.
Whoa.
Fr?
No. That's the real alpha shapeshifter.
Don't beat yourself up Crowley!
Good one 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why are you hitting yourshellf? Why are you hitting yourshellf?
LOL, this seems Confusing...... *you'd think he would be gettign rise out of, beating himself* xD
"You're only hurting yourself, Crowley."
Would have been cheaper to drop a castle on you.
I love it when he say that
For guy who is supposedly a expert in torture Crowley didn't have much patience.
He's more of a dealer than a torturer.
He's been torturing monsters for a year and castiel is losing the battle against Raphael time is not on his side
Sometimes you need to torture somebody to find out they know nothing or will say nothing.
Too smart, too stubborn, too dedicated or... a sinking feeling that they have something more to lose than their own death or torture.
What Crowley didn't get to, and knew he'd never get to, was likely that the Alpha knew the Leviathans in purgatory were top dogs. One of the Leviathans, Edgar once said he knew Eve. He diminished her, colorfully, and the Alpha's were her children. It's very likely that this head shifter knows that Leviathan are all that's truly in Purgatory - the souls are tainted by their presence.
You can't tell Crowley about the Leviathans - for he might decide to release them specifically, or tell someone else, and telling them there's a creature beyond all others... if it wasn't Crowley, it'd be someone else who'd go hunting for them.
You don't talk about Leviathans and you don't let them out.
Worse, Eve had a hold on people. She managed to amp up the bloodthirst of even the most dedicated vegan vampires to levels they couldn't control. Eve's control was absolute - and likely, over centuries, that control and dominance asserted over her "children" was not only physical, but had become totally and emphatic dedication.
Crowley very likely suspected this from the start and was simply looking for confirmation, and this creature's silence in the face of adversity confirmed it.
Leviathans are top dogs - scarier than torture, annihilation and the destruction of his own species.
Crowley was always looking at all the angles, there's many times where his actions don't strap up to his words.
When they go to see Death, Crowley suggests going for pizza. Dean writes it off.
Later, Crowley tries to signal the pizza joint to Dean.
Finally he pulls up alongside him and downright tells him, realizing that Dean won't care HOW Crowley knew Death would be in that specific pizzeria... even before they went out... and why Crowley would want to be there, but not close enough to talk or interact with Death.
Moments like this are never brought up in the show, but there's many times you can see Crowley spinning wheels that make little to no sense - tantalizing trailing ends of him not sharing information, or manipulating to ends we never even think to ask about.
Hopefully one day if they ever pick the show back up, they'll acknowledge Crowley's machinations very likely exceeded everyone's wildest imaginations.
Meg's character said it best... "When are you going to get it? Crowley's ALWAYS the one to be afraid of."
I think Alister was the perfected torturer since he trained and made Dean break, Crowley I think was just Liliths trusted and strongest Crossroad Demon.
@@BigMac8000 I would agree Leviathans would level everyone as they did with the angels, I definitely think Eve was the strongest who even they despised by Edgars tone, And after what she can do, and even her son the Alpha being able to fight off Edgar whos possibly the strongest Leviathan depending on how You look at Dick (Not literally)
"Crowley, you're only hurting yourself."
"What is it with you animals" Nothing special except when coming from Crowley's mouth hahaha
Crowley: What is it with you animals!
Me: You torture people
This moment when you can literally say "Stop hitting yourself" 😂
I love this scene completely awesome
Crowley is by far one of my top five fav actors
It's weird how attached Crowley became to his vessel calling it good looking and all.
I think he's been using that same vessel ever since he became a demon
isn't that vessel his actual body before he became a demon?
its not a vessel
@@berkansalk3762 Yes it is. There's an episode when he says who the vessel was before Crowley possessed him.
Hunter Onnen no his real body is rotten, only the bones are left you can see them in the episode „weekend at bobbys“ from season 6 and they‘re also mentioned in season 9
Gotta admit for a demon crowley is the only one that doesn't completely get on my nerves everyone else just pisses me off
Crowley is truly one of a kind, well...not until the end there...😏
Lost my head😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“You’re really not pulling off this dumb blonde act” he has the best lines
We didnt see that knife ever again. Shame, he could sell that knife and could buy the castle and would live happily ever after.
Iridium must be rarer in the Supernatural universe than our own.
@@JnEricsonx I was gonna say, yeah it's rare, but current price is ~$185 per gram. Not cheap by any means, but nowhere near the cost of a castle for that knife.
Iridium is like 1000 - 1200 dollars and OZ.
So it wouldn't have been cheaper to drop a castle on him then? :P
@@FutureReverberations Depends on the castle
Its not just the rarity of the object. It's also the demand for it. Diamonds are quite rare, they are valuable because people want diamond rings. No one wants iridium rings.
We gotta remeber mosnt the demons we see a really old.crowly was born in like the 1400s and he is the king of cross roads it makes sense over the years he was smart.to collect trade onject over the years to keep up.with modern currency changes. And stay wealthy. But money really means nothing to.a demon who.looks at the bigger picture.all the time
Did Crowley kill the Shapeshifters's babies afterwards?
Where did you think he got the ingredients for Dick's cupcake?
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Holy shit, I never noticed that.
@@user-bj5ki6sr6c timeline doesnt fit but that could be perfect :D
@@user-bj5ki6sr6c i don't think leviathans like monster meat
@@doctor4961 Except for the fact that it was mentioned that Leviathans will eat everything. Castiel even once said: "They're the piranha that would eat the whole aquarium". So while they seem to prefer human meat they will also eat monsters. As an example Dick Roman once ate one of his subordinate Leviathans for failing to retrieve a special package.
I had a long break bevor watching this episode and when i did i was soooo confused😂
I was like 14 or so
Can’t wait to see him in doom patrol!
I don't know about anyone else but I would of liked to see a "death by falling castle"
Since when does Iridium harm Shapeshifters? I remember Silver but nothing about Iridium.
Thats an alpha
It's different for the alphas. They are stronger than their children.
It's the same concept as with the Leviathans that season, really old monsters can't be harmed by anything found in nature, or at least nothing that's laying around for the mining. Only through humanity's long existence and development of science that we happened to concoct a few things with random combinations harmful to them.
@@benjaminkasson2587 that actually makes sense.
@Solrac it was added lore, Supernatural was supposed to end after season 5, I personally loved the concept of the alpha monsters especially the Alpha Vampire but, the writers dropped the ball.
Thanks
Fucking hated how every supernatural being in Crowley's prison was killed because Dean said so. CHILDREN were killed to say the very least.
I was lost lol which one was the real Crowley
Matt Stiffler the one in the apron doing the questioning, the other is the oldest shapeshifter :)
Ohhhhhh lol makes sense ig 🤗
Thanks
Matt Stiffler haha, no prob 😉
I JUST GOT IT
Do you think the alpha shapeshifter didn’t say anything about how crack purgatory open because he knew about the leviathans and how deadly they were
FIRE WALL
Aren’t shifters vulnerable to silver? Why go to the trouble of using iridium?
He’s the alpha as in the first shapeshifter he’s immune to silver as seen in episode 2 of season 6 silver knife and silver buckshot did nothing
@@SJ_RANKS I must have missed that part.
@@LordHayabusa85 You're right Supernatural was supposed to end after season 5 they kind of added this the lore, one of the more decent ideas but Supernatural still went downhill afterwards
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Besides john and cain, crowley was my favorite
THAT IS WONG ASWER
Good
Why get the iridium? Silver already hurts shifters!
But he's THE Shifter. Probably need something different.
Plot device
the alpha's of each species were not always affected by the same things their kin were, in the same way higher tier demons arent killed by the demon knife or corrupted Cas was no longer affected by the angel blade.
Iridium? Like in the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago? Interesting choice, maybe that's what Chuck used to get rid of the Leviathans back then as well? Or -- are they the same thing??!!
iridium is a rare earth metal, its found on earth too, in layers in the crust, the iridium deposited on earth are from meteor impact, not just the KPG extinction asteroid.
Who is Crowley torturing? I still don't understand the scene.
A shapeshifter who is using his form.
Crowley's torturing all the alphas so he can find out where purgatory is and use it
He's torturing the shapeshifter alpha
the alpha shapeshifter
Ayesha Mehar it's a shapshifter
How can an alpha shifter be anymore powerful then a regular shifter
They are the first. They have the full powers of an alpha. All the rest have diluted shifter power. His children were born from human mother's.
But then a nephilim is more powerful than everyone else duuhh
@@peanutbustanut6903 of course they are more powerful than anyone else especially an archangel nephilim
HA HA FUNNY 😆
Of me too
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Can anyone tell me is Crowley (the character) is gay? Because I think so..
Pan, according to Mark Sheppard
@@ilikenougat8892 really? I would say "bi"...
@@enzomartinez8083 Pan, & bi are the same thing.
@@skaus2184 maybe well I'm gay still don't understand a "pan" person
@@enzomartinez8083 "Pan" is someone who is bi, and doesn't have a set type. It's not a real thing, like most of the new designations.
Didn't know who was more monster here a demon torturing a monster to find purgatory or the shapeshifter who told said demon to kill his offspring invisible words we can always make more
Uou do that
HOW MORE
Oh
Iridium isn’t worth that much
*Lost
I JUST KNOW WHY
SPN..always interesting ! This scene is just like the angel statute that was at my infant daughter's (Miya Jane Justeson 2/23/2007-3/18/2007), gravesite. Some psychopath (Dark Triad/ASPD) cut the head off of the statue !!
So sorry for your loss, and I’m so sorry someone did that to you :(
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