509. CUTTING a hole IN THE SIDE of my narrowboat
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- This took way longer than I expected but I eventually got the hope made to accept the starboard porthole window.
Thanks for Mark for chipping in and buying me some jigsaw blades indirectly through buy me a coffee - very kind of you and much needed as I went through about 5 !!!
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Bodgit and Scarper springs to mind, lol
James - this style of porthole needs to be snugly sealed with multiple gaskets to keep everything air and temperature separated or there will be massive amounts of condensation that forms inside the wall where you cannot see it. If you cut the rings shorter, it won’t be able to seal properly.
I know what you mean but this unit wasn’t snug in the slightest. I’m not going to bolt through for a few reasons so that may help thermal bridging. I’ll be using gaskets etc to help the seal
Well done Jamie’s you got there never doubted it tc theoldies 👍🤗👍🤗
The porthole looks very nice! Must be pretty scary to drill the first hole in de boat 😅
Yeah the whole thing is scary and daunting - but as I write this - it looks like it’s all coming together !!!
James. I would make a ply ring the same depth of the batons. Stick that to the steel. Then screw the outer porthole through the steel into the ply ring. O bolt if you prefer.
Then fix the main ply sheet up after you foam insulate the steel work up to the ring. Then I would simply screw the inner port hole to the ply and the ring.
Having independent fittings for inner and outer port holes will eliminate cold bridging through the porthole. !
Ok the way you’ve explained that makes a lot of sense. I think I’ll do just that. Might have to make it up from battens not ply to get the exact thickness. Thanks for the way forward and it was probably shared by many others but I the way you explained it made sense
Wood in contact with steel is a garenteed rot trap.
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Haven’t seen a narrow boat that doesn’t have timber battening fixed to the steel work. Usually on the steel box sections.
Though I get the point
You were never going to leave it and come back, just not your style 😂 Well done, it looks fab! x
Well it still looks like a hole with a chopping board covering it as it’s been raining all day here today
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This wins the 'Best Thumbnail' prize!
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James when you do the next side cut the whole thing out using an angle grinder with a cutting disc on it, it’s easier than you think to get a loverly circle and will be a zillion times quicker. Practice getting a circle on the off cut of steel from this window. Literally say rub the running disc round lightly and just keep going lightly lightly lightly and eventually you’ll go through and it’ll be 👌
As always, I’m proud of you! When you finish this boat, you will have a new profession. It will be a narrowboat outfitter. Hopefully I got the name right 🤣.
We’ll see - not if it involves cutting portholes though 😅
Your best thumbnail, made me LOL. You rock, James.
Thanks bro
Have to agree I nearly wet my self laughing at that !! X
I wondered how you were going to cut through that steel. Once again you have demonstrated your ingenuity and out of the box thinking. Accomplishing what needs to be done with what you have.
Some ear defenders probably wouldn’t go amiss, though.
Cheers
Scott
Cheers Scott indeed - stitch drilling was the way the portholes were cut on robs boat. He has 11 portholes !!! That would take me all year !!
Dude! That’s an album cover! Can I be in the band? Lord you are brave, in what you take on, I’m always impressed with your attitude. Something else I’ve noticed is you’re wearing safety glasses more, well done. Really like the music. Say hey to your Dad for me as well. Cheers
@@billyslide7645 cheers pal - will do for sure
We hope you’re well mate
Measure twice, cut once James, I know it’s easy for us watching, but you’re doing ok, still on track.
Yeah I think so
You can cut a porthole with a small grinder, rough it out and then clean it up neat. Save you a lot of work.
I always found drilling holes in steel a real pain - I think the jigsaw alone would have done that really well - slowly, but well, in my humble opinion. I did my stove chimney hole that way. That and a good metal file.
There's definitely a dog owner who doesn't like boaters somewhere around those parts.
Hello Johnny - I hope you’re good mate. I find the holes provide a good line to aim for - if it was marked up correctly that is 😂
Well the hole may not be perfect but well done James ! Never doubted you could do it for a second ! 🤭 xxx
Cheers dear c
Best..... Thumbnail..... Ever!
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Brilliant, well done.
You might find it worth making a scriber to mark your holes in the steel - take a length of wood/ply a couple of inches longer than the radius of the hole you're cutting, drill a 1/4" or so hole in one end, mark and drill (1/4", same as the wood) the centre of the circle you're going to cut in the steel, then bolt the wood to the steel through the 2 holes. You then need to attach something to scribe the steel with to the wood at the correct radius/. A bit of snapped off hacksaw blade can work, I usually use a stanley knife blade, and attach them by just cutting a slot in the side of the wood (junior hacksaw is good for that). Then just drag and press your scriber around the radius of the circle to mark it such that it cuts into the steel and gives you a nice mark in it's surface.
If you make a similar scribe a little bit inside that ((according to your drill diameter) then that will be a great help in locating the centres of the the little holes you're drilling - even better if you centre punch them first, that way you can get them very close together (enough to minimise the jig saw work to join them). The centre punch will tend to "locate" on the scribed mark, and the drill follow the punched mark.
Hope that helps with the next one - measure twice, cut once etc!
A scribe wouldn’t have really helped on this - I got the position right - I just wasn’t 100% sure on how big the hole should be to accept the unit.
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt I've been in the same place! If you use the "diy circular scriber" with an stanley blade in it you can cut big holes in cardboard which can help see what works. Or even better that corrigated plastic board they use for signs etc. That's great for templating!
Good video thanks lee
Could have done with it being a bit higher up 😮
Yeah I agree.
I would be tempted to abandon the porthole idea and go for larger rectangular windows.
There are also rectangular style options.
I’m hindsight I kind of wish I had
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuiltnot too late ...at least you would only have to make the hole larger, not smaller.
Can I ask why you didn’t use an angle grinder to cut the holes out it would be much quicker. I cut my 4” exhaust hole no problems did use worn discs mind. Still looking good.
Chris
Too scared!! Is the honest answer and not confident with my ability to use the tool to do that job.
Wish you was near by me I’ll bring my grinder take 10 mins cuts that out :)
Oh wow yeah that would be a treat. Oh well it’s the thought that counts 😂
Ta
The porthole looks like some kind of food grade stainless steel so you’ll create inter crystalline corrosion, we used to use PTFE washers to prevent this when using stainless bolts on steel or galvanised flanges. 👍🖐️
It’s cast aluminium but I will be using stainless screws to hold it in to reduce any corrosion coming in
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt great it’s just something that occurs with dissimilar metals keep up the good work 👍
Would you have to put a seal on the outside of the porthole? I think if you did that then you shouldn't have problem with it fitting?
This style of porthole needs to be sealed against all surfaces it contacts, including against its own two halves.
Great thumbnail! 🤣
Dumplings?
I had home made meat pie and mash. Yummy. 😀
He didn’t serve with dumplings and thank goodness - they give me the heebie-jeebies. It was a damn good stew though followed by sticky toffee pudding and custard. It did mean though that my whole meal was eaten from a bowl with a spoon
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt Worked with a guy once, who ate every meal with just a spoon. Weird. He blamed it on years in the army, eating rations. 🤔
What about giving the wall board an ever so minimal bend at the porthole bit by sufficiently thicker batons just there?
It would be too much and would push out other things
were you nervous at the first drilling of that hole for the porthole James ?
I’m crapping myself the whole time mate yes
I still don't understand why James did not research and buy the same kind of port holes that all the other modern narrow boats use instead of that cumbersome old school port hole made for old industrial ships.
I don't understand how you can type that and not think it won't come across as rude or condescending? I know that James lives on a narrowboat and has refurbished one previously. Can I ask for your experience or expertise in the same field?
@@davecoz4227 You are posting on his page. Surely you know he reads and often replies to comments when he has time. So why not address your concerns directly to him in a constructive manner? Have a good night.
That's what makes James interesting same old would be boring 😊
@@ruaidhrikathygill8833 My conly concern was in the rudeness og=f @_-martin-_ 1st comment. Have a good day
@@davecoz4227 You don't understand. I'm an engineer and by doing minimum effort research you will find that there are port holes available designed specifically for narrow boats. In fact, made by the same manufacturers that make your classical rectangular narrow boat windows! These port holes are specifically designed to do away with the problems that James have already mentioned and comes with extra benefits. You can find narrow boat designed port holes that are a single frame that is simply mounted on the outside so easier to install and gives you more space inside because the glass frame sits mounted on the outside not the inside. They are safer to use because they do not have those big bulky steel locking handles sticking into the room nor do they open fully inwards - as James pointed out the concern with kids running about maybe hitting their heads on the bulky locking handles of the port holes. The narrow boat designed port hole glass frame simply tilts inwards using a small non invasive safe locking mechanism that does not get in your way when you walk past the port holes even when opened. Most importantly, the narrow boat designed port holes comes with double glazed glass so they feature much better insulation and you will not have to deal with condensation and wasteful heat loss. They are also bigger so will let in more light and make your room feel bigger.
Id use a rubber gasket inside and out to make up the space
I will be doing just that - thanks
How many drill bits did you go through.
2 drills bits but 7 jigsaw blades
Just Drill out with a larger drill bit
James, why not buy a cheap (Aldi) plasma cutter or failing that, hire one; Job done in no time!
I'd assumed he'd be using a plasma cutter. You could probably pre-cut a larger circular guide and get a nice regular hole that way.
I am glad that they included a gasket with the porthole, and good to see the suggestion about the ply ring. Keep up the good work James.
😊🤗 Kathy
Couldn’t have put it better myself
@@alanrichardson1672 not sure he did make a pigs ear of it ! He achieved what he needed to! I’m proud of James’s accomplishments. To say he’s never been shown how to do all the things he did on sloe patrol and continuing on 58 ! It’s all a learning curve and others will learn from him ! You go James !!! X
£125 to cut a hole , genius.
It takes a special kind of guts to cut a hole in a boat!
Well that and the need to insert a window 😂
How do you think windows appear, by magic ?
HOW CAN DOG OWNERS NOT REALISE THAT THEY TARNISH ALL WITH THE SAME BRUSH WHEN THEY LEAVE THEIR POO, ESPECIALLY OUTSIDE SOMEONE'S HOME!!! methonks this is done on purpose! 🤔
James, will it not need some sort of weather-proofing seal on the outside of the wall, to prevent rusting around the hole? Again, I say, I know nothing, just interested 😊
It’s awful round here for this
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt please see my edit James 🤔
@@suzieq2958 yes it be having a rubber gasket on the outside and silicon
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuiltphew😅
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuiltI'll tell you how to stop it, mark them as they appear with bright orange road marking spray paint , as if by magic it will stop when the culprits can no longer pretend they didn't do it.
Also if you cut more off the inner port hole so that it makes less contact with the outer one this will also help to reduce condensation. Can you fit any in between the male and female parts ? Looks to tight for even a layer of cork
I’m thinking of a rubber d profile around both rims to help
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What ever you can do to stop cold bridging will help.
As you know these boats like there condensation 👍👍
That"s not WD40 that you are using as "cutting oil" I hope. A real cutting oil is much thicker and will help prolong the life of your cutting tool. Cheers
I find WD40 helps and is better than nothing - I tend to use a squirty oil can whatever engine oil I have to hand though. That's probably also incorrect! but it seems to work a bit better than WD.
It was WD cutting oil
You need to slow your speeds down when cutting steel ,just saying
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Why not a jig saw with metal blade ? You got it done
I did
I'm not sure why James would didn't use your Jigsaw with a metal blade to begin with.
A bymetal blade at slow speed will go through 6mm plate easy.
What instead of the stick drills? I guess I didn’t think it would take the curve so easily. But yeah those blades do glide through quite well
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt yes James using a bymetal blade at slow speed you can cut radius arks and circles, this would save you the time drilling holes.
You maybe have to centre punch your texta drawn line though similar to oxy cutting as the heat from cutting bit will most probably burn your mark off in front of where your cutting.
Ideally would have been good if you could have got your hands on a plasma cutter, i bought one for my work as gas cutting is far too expensive now.
Why did you not hire a plasma cutter, half an hour you could have done both saved on drill bits and hacksaw bits
Firstly I don’t know how to use a plasma cutter and from what I’ve seen it would have been a fire risk and require loads of filing down afterwards
Quick though yeah
I cringe every time he tries to do a project. I take it he was trying to saw a hole into fiberglass. Cut hole not the pre-made port hole. You can’t undo that. Did you do any research of how to cut into fiberglass. Key working word here is glass. You simply have the wrong blade. And WD-40 I was rolling.
It's not fiberglass it's steel. Wd40 aids in drilling steel
i think you need to rewatch this, its 6 mil steel.
Maybe your watching something else mate!!! It’s not fibreglass it’s steel and WD cutting oil helps the cut.
Next……..
Think the key thing for you is not to watch If James has the effect on you . Skip through the “ cringeworthy bits” James always ends up getting the job done ! X
Best dumb comment yet.