S400 vs Patriot: Best Air Defense Choice?
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2022
- The Patriot and S-400 missile systems are used to defend the sky from enemies. The S-400 can destroy Tomahawk cruise missiles and can also detect stealth aircraft. It can detect other targets at all altitudes of their combat and employment and at maximum ranges. This air defense missile system can simultaneously engage 36 targets. The Patriot missile system uses high-performance radar systems. The missile has a range of 43 miles (70 km) and a speed in excess of Mach 2. It has a maximum altitude greater than 14 miles (24 km). Which is the better option for defending the sky?
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S-400 launching is spectacular!! Plus the sound.....
But being destroyed by what it was built to stop.
One of the main advantages of the S-400 is that missiles are launched in any direction in azimuth. 360 degrees without launcher rotation.
The patriot does not have this - to change direction by 180 degrees - you need to turn the entire launcher.
On the S-400, the radars also scans all 360 degrees. That means that Patriot need two batterys to do job of one s 400 Battery..
At the Petriot, the radar looks only for 1 sector - this is shown in the video. 1 battery S 400 consists of 8 launch trucks, which means that , you get the opportunity to launch 32 missiles at once, the second one is not said at what altitude the S 400 can hit the target and that is up to 55 km And perhaps the most important thing is the speed of a rocket that can fly at speeds of up to 8,700 km/h(45 % faster then any Patriot missale!!! In addition, the S 400 will never be in position without the buk m2 and Tor m2 system there for almost is impossible to use AGM-88 HARM against S 400 as his range is 80 km only from 25 km altitude.. And that's why I think Russia has built the best air defense systems in the world ..by huge Margine..
Да. А бук и тор прикрывает "панцирь".
I think it is a bit of an early jump to call Russians' air defence the best, when the Usa air defence has not even been put to a full use... Ukraine has only been given a small demo version and what have they already achieved with that? Russians are scared of operating near Ukraine airspace. Why would the 180 degree firing arc be an issue? It's not like they are going to suddenly have a need for using friendly fire unlike Russians.... Also don't forget the build quality. Russians of late have been a bit... Ahem....
@@Arrythmic798 why is everything always like this with you? when you praise the weapons that were brought to Ukraine, you say: these are the most invincible tanks in the world, Leopard, Challenger, Abrams, when these tanks were destroyed at their first approach to Russian positions, you say: yes, they were old, but they had the wrong armor system, Yes, the tankers there were not competent! when they brought the patriot systems you said: this is a complete set of the most advanced air defense battery! as soon as Pаtriot was destroyed by the very first missile that flew at it, you say: again, something was wrong with the installation operators, and the battery was not fully deployed! do you still believe in the perfection of American weapons even when you see that they are losing?
@@igorvasin6960 no one said the tanks are invincible 😂 they’re unarguably better, look at the push for Kiev Ukraine wipes out full convos of Russian armor with hand held ATMs, tanks aren’t invincible but they’re still the best weapons we have to assault entrenched positions and I doubt anyone’s taking a T-90M over a challenger 2 anytime soon, as for these launchers I agree, Russia have always been the best when it comes to rockets 🚀 but it’s more about quantity than quality, Ukraine has no means to replace these weapons or ammunition
Indeed. The video has also failed to mention that S-400 has much wider range, higher speed, lower cost and higher effectiveness. Also that the S-400 is a much newer platform which went into service in 2007 while the Patriot system went into service in 1981. As well as that Patriot is PESA while S400 has multiple radars that are multiband mix of AESA and PESA. Furthermore, S400 has double the range for both radars and missiles. S-400 needs only 5 minutes to be deployed while Patriot needs 25 minutes. Furthermore, the Patriot system is stationery, so it cannot move to prevent being retaliated against. It also takes 50-60 men just to set the entire thing up and 30 in men to operate the different parts (missiles, radars, command centers). S-400 can track and engage double the targets compared to Patriot - it can lock on to 72 targets at the same time, while Patriot can lock on to 36 targets. There is no comparison. S-400 wins hands down. Patriot is comparable to older systems like S-300.
Very true. The analysis was very biased and misleading, especially when he said the PAC 3 can track more targets than S400
@@piuswanyaga8361 Exactly.
s400 is a joke///russia always lies
S400 is well overhyped like everything else Russian we now know most of the Orc gear is shit.
@@thulsadoom544Перестаньте фантазировать.С-400 лучше во всем.Пэтриот- барахло,как и все американское оружие.Именно поэтому, Америка ни когда не побеждала.
While the Patriot system was developed in 1982, the S-400 was created in 2007. The Patriots need 25 minutes for being ready for launching, while it takes only five minutes for the S-400. The S-400 can lock on to 72 targets at the same time, while the Patriot can lock on to 36 targets
the s 400 is a upgraded s300 system . the patriot has been upgraded and modernized . russia lies about the s400' all the time that is why ukraine sent a 1980s drone 300 miles into russia and the s400 couldnt shoot it down
So explain how neither s-300 or s-400 was not able to destroy a 50 year old Ukrainian drone hitting bomber plane In a military base deep inside Russia..? 🤔
@@petel7418 so explaine why Patriot was not able to destroy iranian drones in Saudi Arabia?
@@thenameisx Yeah, there's no point of uprgading air defense system when western/nato countries has 5th Gen fighter jets and 6th Gen jet programs.. 😄
.. You know, not like shot down "modern" russian su-34's with old soviet maps and western made gps systems taped In their dashboard..
You can't strike Nato bases In Nato countries. That has not happened.
Russia was hit In it's own turf.
So they themselves proved their air defense useless.
@@thenameisx Oh, he got butthurt by grammar.. Sorry.
.. Sure they could, sure(the problem of course is that no one believes it anymore. Even Kazachs are laughing at russian military at this point)..
And instead of doing that, i think Russia will keep doing what they do, which is losing in Ukraine. Because that makes sense and that's how they win. 👍🏻
So nothing is right.
Ukraine will beat Russia by itself.
Patriot couldn't stop not only the drones but also missiles fired from Yemen towards Saudi
There are many videos that show those missiles hit targets in Riyadh, damam, and jeddah.
yeh i think there is alot of brushing under carpet going on with Patriots actual usefulness. I think Putin summed it up in a speech. I really dont want ww3, but i think we would all be fascinated to see how all these systems would actually stack up. Because there is so much disinformation going around its just a guessing game.
😂including when irán 🇮🇷 launched a barrage of missiles on American base in Iraq 🇮🇶 where the 😂 Patriot failed big time to intercept the Iranian missiles attacks 😂
@@adamb5780 There were no Patriot systems based there...which is why none were fired. Get your facts straight, please.
Did the patriot air defence has ever intercepted any incoming missiles by huti from Yemen?
Patriot is a toys.
@@wmiller1000 the hope point of this story is that the western Nato clown 🤡 Americans are planning on sending it to Ukraine 🇺🇦 ! It’s already a done ✅ deal and that’s why we are all talking about it Because based of the facts truth evidence provided is very clear ! So sorry I hurt your feelings 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I remember that during the Desert Storm, the Patriot system performance was not very good despite that it was propagandised as a success. Also about three years ago, the Yemeni insurgence drones and missiles, not very complex ones, attacked a Saudi refinery and Patriots were the Saudi's air defence and were unable to stop it. Now consider such a missile as Iskander, which can be re-targeted in flight, meaning it can manoeuvre after the launch to the Yemeni simple missiles. So the "combat tested" does not look so good.
Saudi Arabia wanted to buy S400 after that, but was stopped from doing so. Also, the decision by Turkey, a prominent NATO member, to purchase S400 instead Patriot says much about the two systems. And if you know that the US put sanctions on Turkey to discourage the purchase, and Turkey still bought S400 underline which system is superior and I think significantly superior (I think Turkey now is negotiating second S400).
Do not forget that the Patriot system were used only when the US fought against "superpowers" like Libia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan (as all the US weaponry) what calls some more questioning into these super-weapons if the enemies are to be Russia or China.
The United States itself gave the industry to the USSR in the years 45-55 and the captured German engineers created the military technologies that Russia has now!
Uhm, Russia no longer a super power. Its been downgraded to middle power due to performance in Ukraine 🤭
@@TheEeRlan US actually got the better German scientists. Who do you think got Werhner Von Braun? He single handedly beefed up NASA to beat Russia in the space race.
@@user-dq3jk9py4q what performance? Do you even understand the concept of attrition war? The fact that the alliance nation is complaining about depleted stocks while ruz kept going really says who is outlasting the others. A nation backed by 30+ countries is now on the verge of collapse, against a country "with an economy the size of texas". Apparently the "gas station masquerading as a country" has more resources than 30+ nations.
Also interesting how they are saying the S400 has not been used despite all the video footage, as well as a short range interceptor like the pantsir which has proven very capable against advanced missile/drones.
Thank you for listening to the promotional video prepared for Raytheon, GE and its associates 😊
Probably the first military video I've seen on YT that's not biased and actually is based on capabilities rather than the new western sayings, "Russian military hardware is junk".
They are battering emptying nato reserves in ukraine with limited troops lol. Watch when russia gets the troops ready. It will be end of Ukraine. I assume Putin wanted to end it quickly in february to avoid casualties. Now that Nato and Europe involved and they were not able to do it which was due to imo primarly intelligence delivered by Nato. With that failed Russia has no choice, but to end ukraine by force. I think ukrainans will overthrow Zelensky in the future when conditions get bad. Just look when russia actually takes them seriously now. They declared martial law and actually are obliterating their infrastructure and actually fighting a war and not doing some surgical operations on the front lines to not hurt civilians. Ukraine is about to enter much much much worse territory than it was before.
The patriot isn't used for this alone though we have other weapons to defend on this while the patriot sets up. The patriot serves multiple roles the s400 not so much
@@averydavis5741 your comment made no sense
@@spark5558 the patriot serves multiple roles other then just taking down missiles. We have other military weapons that can react faster then the patriot to take down missiles. The s400 is specifically made to take down missiles so of course it will set up quicker. Sorry typed the previous comment half awake
@@averydavis5741 Your comment made no sense bro and it has little to do with how you decribe patriot. Think of what you said again.
just about a half hour compared to five minutes is a huge difference huge
Not it is not. Because you don't turn them on and off 10 times a day. You activate the radar and leave it running 24 hours per day..
does it matter that much as the russians won't be very close when they fire a missile
Military defence does not work like this: "Oh no, incoming missile, quickly go to this location, set up a Patriot battery and shoot down the missile"
@@Arrythmic798lol😂😂
I think discussing their range, speed, cost and effectiveness side by side would have been much more helpful and informative
Yep 1 patriot rocket 4 mln, intresting how much s400 rocket cost... 1 rocket can give beautiful life for 1 man wish no need work more in his life...Madnes...
the only thing that matters is accuracy , range is irrelevant the further you try to iluminate the higher t he power usage and the larger radar signature you have then anti radiation missiles will find you 100% (that is after you are prelevated from satelite because the k bands go up to moon , patriot system has no match in it`s range underneath it is the iris-t but it`s till a world appart same goes with s300 rebranded as the s400 alot of rusian propaganda but the system is an absolute junk with an extreme radar signature and low precission like all other rusian junks that fail to hit their target when it`s moving at max range s300 has 28% change to hit which is still alot but a junk compared with patriot or iris-t that proven 100 % accuracy in ukraine
@@lattehour Bingo !
@@lattehour 100% точность? это вам Украинские сми рассказали? Они не очень дружат с математикой. по их информации, по ним было выпущено 60 ракет, 40 сбили, но по факту получается что поражено 40 обьектов, одна не сбитая ракета два обьекта поражает?
@@user-lo6hg3np8s S400 is garbage. Why do you think they only use it as a ground to ground artillary missile? Radar is weak, VERY weak! Patriot is the best short and medium range ballistic intercept missile on the planet. Russia has nothing for American support, they have to suck Iranian dick to get something more capable than they have, but still shit compared to what they're up against. Putin has lied to you for years, you believed him and now it's time to cry because he betrayed you.
Well, the last topic makes S-400 a clear winner. 5 minutes to be ready to launch is much better than 25 minutes from Patriot.
But who dint save the moscova THE S400 DINT
Well, I think that military exploitation in wars/confilcts more important parameter. For example in Israel in confilcts and routine with patriot pac 2, they succeed to intercept many drones and two jets past ten years.
We don't see in a news that in Ukraine or somewhere c300 or c400 intercept something.
The mobility of an air defense matters only in so far as the mobility of it's defended asset is concerned. If you're trying to defend a base, for example, the mobility of the system is completely irrelevant as the defended area is stationary.
If you're trying to defend a mobile front line unit, mobility is a much greater concern. But that opens up the question of "how many resources are you willing to deploy to protect front line units". Any country is going to have a limited number of air defense systems, they cost millions of dollars per, and are difficult to replace. So it's difficult to justify mobilizing air defense for front line protection at the cost of defending a stationary base (which will in all likelihood be the tradeoff in that situation).
The only time mobility is a genuine and present concern is in the case of acquiring/building an in theater base. In that case, rapid deployment of air defense systems is a vital step in the process. Wether or not 20 minutes would make the difference is, however, an open question.
The main reason S400 wins IT WORKS PATRIOT DOESN'T
@@antipropo461 show me the proves please
God give our leaders wisdom so we actually never find out how truly effective these weapon systems in real life war.
Why, are you a pilot? 😂
Perfect, well said
@@TomsGotPowers no, not yet. I’m starting flight school in a year or so to get my PPL.
@@danielaramburo7648 did you miss something?
You think a god have our leaders wisdom? 😂
So much wrong there 🤦🏼♂️
Well, comparing the losses of both systems in Ukraine the winner is quite clear …
These systems are designed as big payload interceptors and manned aircraft. It isn't for stopping cruise missiles, low altitude etc. Those are other systems jobs. They work well because their deterrent factor to military strategy, they are a factor that is forced to be delt with. Limiting action or forcing larger commitment.
S400's "triumph" nickname is much cooler than "patriot"
instant win for S400
We will have a chance to see these two go at it in the next couple of months. Will finally shut everyone up just like HIMARS and javelin.
If you remember the 1991-Gulf War those Patriot missiles could not stop IRAQI'S SCUD missiles let alone comparing with the S400 please they were ineffective
Thank you Americans deliberately try not to talk about how ineffective the patriot was in the gulf war
And yet here they are taking down so called "unstoppable" Khinzal missiles today. Here's a fact for you, more US military personnel were killed in accidents and setting up US equipment than by the Iraqi military in that conflict. I'm not sure why your trying to dunk on the US while using that war as an example. The US molly whopped Iraq. It ias one of the most one sided conflicts in human history.
Theres a cheap second hand Patriot unit available for sale in Kiev, it has a little bit of battle damage from a Kinzhal Missile, and comes with empty missile tubes as they were used in a fireworks show last week. I reckon you can get a good deal for it if you pay Cash as it was donated by the tax payers of the US. Original asking price i heard was 1 Billion US. Just saying.
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What the fuck is this bullshit supposed to mean?
Romania had some 3 Patriot System not yet operationals with no ammunition to be fired. The all three diponible Patriot Systems are already payed by romanian tax payers...so can be available to be donated to Kiev Clown Elensky at the pression-suggestion of our american friends from wich we buyed this !
There's parts of three differnt S-400 systems for sale at a junk yard in Crimea. No need for hypersonics, these units were blown up with slow moving HIMARS rockets.
I was about to purchase thank god found this video....
In conclusion: S-400 is definitely better
this aged very well😂
HIMARS says "Hi"
Cope
@@agentorange9867 Ocope😄
hahahah s400 is a joke
Better range in Km than miles.
A very informative video!
The United States itself gave the industry to the USSR in the years 45-55 and the captured German engineers created the military technologies that Russia has now!
Not at all. It has failed to mention that S-400 has much wider range, higher speed, lower cost and higher effectiveness. Also that S-400 is a much newer platform which went into service in 2007 while the Patriot system went into service in 1981. As well as rgat the S-400 needs only 5 minutes to be deployed while Patriot needs 25 minutes. Furthermore, that the S-400 can lock on to 72 targets at the same time, while Patriot can lock on to 36 targets. There is no comparison. S-400 wins hands down. Patriot is comparable with S-300.
Excellent video sir. New New ways military weapons are coming in. So also so,. Opposite side equalising anti weapon to neutralise. Any how people hating war atmosphere. Young children, very old, other living creatures would suffer, because of weapons. Sit discuss, do it again and again, solution would come. Praying for all living being safety.
I am just amazed at the systems shown. Seems each side has some killer units. Wonder who will reign superior.
Moskva had S-300F, it was upgraded in 2021. but...
@Richardll2422 Well Richard, just keyboarding in a warm cozy rancher. Peace fella.
@@jongsookim636 I like the UA-cam video of the missile being shot and it turns around hits the base unit. Must be poorly trained personnel. That is my guess.
I can tell you who. Construction companies. The same few construction companies that show up after every conflict to tie up and redevelop land.
@@incomingincoming1133 Very well stated Sir.
The best strategy is more farms and unity instead of WAR👍
We ought to be fighting our common enemy - climate warming instead of each other. War in the nuclear age is such a risk to humanity.
@@michaellakeman4208 totally agree my common sense friend 👍
That was a pretty unbiased assessment. The only problem with most videos and assessments is the classified nature of the systems. Actual combat effectiveness data is hard to come by and we're left with making assumptions. If assumptions are included then one has to ask why are the Israelis seemingly impervious to Russian air defense systems ? I am no expert...I suspect that the S-400 is a air defense system to be respected but isn't nearly as good as the Russian would have us believe. I also suspect the same of the Patriot system...good but it has limitations. I also suspect that the Russians and the Americans are probably never going to go "head-to-head" in a real shooting war, so we have to rely on how well "proxy users" employ the systems. Great video...really informative.
They don't talk about Patriot's biggest disadvantage: Patriot doesn't have radars inside its missiles while S-300 and S-400 has. So S-300 and S-400 can shoot down planes that are flying on low altitude. In September Russian S-300 shot down Ukrainian MiG-29 from 230km range - this is the record for longest range SAM kill.
WORD!!
@@Worselol Or is that what the US want you to believe? I don't think the biggest military budget in the world by miles would settle for no 2 in air defense
@@mister_comeback So, when they are going to reveal their true power?
@@Worselol Take a real deep breath and hold it until they release the data.......
patriot failed a practical exam in war
The “Patriot” that failed to intercept SCUDS IN Saudi Arabia 29 years ago was the PAC-1. Today's Patriots are the PAC-2 for long range interceptions over 100 miles and the Smaller quad packed PAC-3 patriot for interception of missiles. PAC-3 has a record of 240 successful missile interceptions in Saudi Arabia using hit to kill technology. The Patriot system is vastly more sensible. S-400 fires upward to allow supposedly easy engagement of targets from any direction but this wastes a valuable second compared to patriot which is pointed in the threat direction. Patriot can curve back or missile cells are simply orientated in the other direction. Patriots problems in Gulf war were due to a time stamp click software bug that developed after long stand by periods.
@@williamzk9083 he was talking about the recent yemeni war,where the houthis destroyed oil infrastructure of the saudis and the patriot system failed to stop it.
@@newguy954 In 2018 the Russian air base in Syria was attacked by drones. In 2022, Russian air and naval bases are attacked by drones.
@@williamzk9083 we also have the THAAD now which is extremely effective against ballistic missiles!
@@newguy954 The Patriot Radar did not detect the drone attack because the Patriots radar had been programed to ignore very slow moving targets. The software has been parameterized to detect drones now.
And we haven’t haven’t even talked about the S500!!
Or S550
You do know the US is just sending the patriot systems to Ukraine because they’re old but still good enough to tackle anything Russia dishes out right? The US isn’t even sending their best weapons yet. And neither are any other NATO countries. You Russia fanboys are wishing on a star 😂
Pure hype for these Russians weapons that are proven to be junk in the battle field.
@@josemercado4702 like the Americans are any better
@@josemercado4702 the Americans are just more expensive and less capable, look at the F-35🤣🤣
Patriot missile is a lite version for a small country of the S400 missile. .
it is useless , if you look what russia have done to ukraine , s400 knows the radar signature of hypersonic missiles !!, US is far behind that
Patriot is actually Stolen tech of Russian S400.
The United States itself gave the industry to the USSR in the years 45-55 and the captured German engineers created the military technologies that Russia has now!
@@TheEeRlan The Russian army won the war against Nazis. It was at Berlin before US army. Because US authority didn't appreciate the fact a fake end of war was signed with Nazi general one day before the end of the war. The shame with the Western countries is to teach their lies as the truth. The USA was enabled to won the war without European brains. This is not even to comment. Stealing is part of the US culture. Now I can agree the USA helped the Nazi party to take power and made reforms in Germany. The philosophy of the Nazism about the value of a citizen was well above the strong liberalist could declare. A citizen must work hard to be considered good to stay alive. Otherwise he has no value he is a problem for the Reich. We know this exactly what it's happened in the USA. Better spending public money in weapons than social care. So far the USA is not a civilization. People are dying if they have the financial means of strong insurance. They can learn at the University if they have no financial support. They have to pay even their birth. In fact the social support of the Nazism was better than in the USA. Today Zelensky is the man bringing a flag with SS logo in the USA. No problems. The Russophones Ukrainians were useless for Ukraine according all the Ukrainian government where US citizen were in post . Therefore the USA must be agreed about it, because the coup d État in 2014 was done with the CIA and the neo Nazis bataillon. If after WWII the USA helped the Russians is because they are agreed with them. At least I appreciate the Republicans asking fair treatment with US citizen when Biden is wasted public money for a war already lost. Even Hitler has lost the war because the Russians . I think Ukrainians. have bad leaders like the French's and the Americans too. But I m not so sure about the Russians. Because so far 12 millions Ukrainians are working in Russia and compare to the millions of Ukrainians in the European Union, Putin has not to spend public money to take care of them. . Poland with 4 millions Ukrainians is dying. Europe has no work for them and not sure the European citizens appreciate the economical situation due to the Russian response of the Nazi regime in Ukraine since February 2022. 83% of the humanity approve the very late Russian intervention. I m not sure the USA will wait so long 14000 deaths they refused the Apartheid . I know what it mean Slave. Hopefully the blackout will help to find a peaceful issue. Because the Ukrainians citizens deserve a better leader. Once again Zelensky has made the show. And Biden was totally in panic in his home. Maybe one day the US citizen will understand the high price to pay to get his freedom in a country where life expectancy is one of the lowest regarding average wages . For me I m convinced the country must work for its People before asking it to pay back...
@@TheEeRlanmore Russians not knowing that are losing the war 🤦♂️
That’s what they say they have but it is all a big lie
if S400 was the beast of the AD ... the S500 with mach7 missiles combined to antey4000 is just another level
lol S-500. How many those are operational? It's a fantasy like most of the new "super" weapons Russia brags about but none have been confirmed to even exist. Su-75 checkmate is another fantasy weapon. Just becasue it exists on a drawing board doesn't make it real.
Thank You!!
I like watching how the S400 missiles launch from their canisters. Are there videos of S400 missiles launching from the canister without firing their rocket motors?
Есть видео как ракета патриот разворачивается после старта и бъëт по своим 🤣
@@velikoross77rus are you talking about the Saudi Patriot system US supplied that had malfunctioned and backfired or are you talking about the S400 video in Syria when it backfired?
@@velikoross77rus есть видео где ботов пиздят палками.
@@ChatJokey NaxПшел
@@ChatJokey есть видео где танк ВСУ в упор бъëт по своим 🤣
Here, the coefficient of Pakazuhha is forgotten and the cartoon based coefficient is definitely not taken into account here :D
The United States itself gave the industry to the USSR in the years 45-55 and the captured German engineers created the military technologies that Russia has now!
Time is the key......a big advantage between 5 mins and 25 mins......
dude, as somebody who loves and respects our military but has thankfully never had to experience war in any sense, its fucking wild watching these rockets get launched knowing that these massive, incredibly fast moving bombs are intended to be aimed at other human beings. We're a wild species and I hope for world peace, but may whatever god they pray to be with those men and women who put their lives on the line for the sake of their country.
I think more than a year of operating in Ukraine has shown some of the limitations of the S-400 system...
And no video evidence, that the system is working and can protect Russias trooped…
If it was working, Russia would have had a better time in Ukraine…
@@leedex Ukraine's military is on the verge of collapse despite continued deliveries Western money and material. Russia has lost an estimated 40k to 50k men during the SMO, Ukraine has lost an estimated half million men. The average Ukrainian fighting is over 40 years old as all the young men are either dead, wounded, have left the country, or have surrendered to the Russians.
I'd say things have gone quite well for Russia.
@@quinton01I would say your talking absolute rot if any army is ready to collapse its Putins Orcs ...you ever hear the term low morale well its rock bottom on Putins side.
You failed to mention how many personnel can operate each of those air defences systems
Indeed. The video has also failed to mention that S-400 has much wider range, higher speed, lower cost and higher effectiveness. Also that the S-400 is a much newer platform which went into service in 2007 while the Patriot system went into service in 1981. As well as that Patriot is PESA while S400 has multiple radars that are multiband mix of AESA and PESA. Furthermore, S400 has double the range for both radars and missiles. S-400 needs only 5 minutes to be deployed while Patriot needs 25 minutes. Furthermore, the Patriot system is stationery, so it cannot move to prevent being retaliated against. It also takes 50-60 men just to set the entire thing up and 30 in men to operate the different parts (missiles, radars, command centers). S-400 can track and engage double the targets compared to Patriot - it can lock on to 72 targets at the same time, while Patriot can lock on to 36 targets. There is no comparison. S-400 wins hands down. Patriot is comparable to S-300.
@@catonpillow You forgot the most important part, and that is that the S400 is more Russian overhyped garbage akin to their airplanes, tanks, helicopters, etc..
Their range, performance, etc--is all only stated by the Russians; which if this war has taught us anything, is that they'll lie about literally EVERYTHING lmao.
How many HIMARs have the Russians stated they have destroyed again? Wasn't it like 400-500% of the total amount that the U.S. has even produced lol?
That's ignoring the fact that while yes, the patriot system was introduced decades ago, it has undergone constant block updates. The latest of which (in 2018) completely redesigns the fire and control system.
American equipment = proven in combat, open in their testing results (relatively speaking).
Russian equipment= "proven" on paper, and they regularly claim their systems have 100% accuracy and are undefeatable--whilst looking like garbage in Ukraine.
Saw for a while ago one comment from one US soldiers who had been operating s300 and patriot, he said s300 was better.
Afraid those patriot would be easy target for suicidal drone or hypersonic missiles.
@@catonpillowthe patriot might not be good but the S-400 is Russian (vary bad)
@@Randomvideos-UA-cam you should go play at the park with the rest of the kids
Wow that zoom
it was the best i've ever seen 4:50
FYI: According to defense department, Patriots are going to intercept Iranian precision guided F110 and Zolfaghar ballistic missiles. They carry warheads of about 750kg or more with range beyond 500km. Russians are under training to use them. They may change the battlefield.
Hamas vs iron dome
And yet it didn't activate when Iran strikes US base in Iraq.
@@jimtan8472 The base in question did not have any Patriot batteries stationed there, so quite obviously none were "activated" you dufus. You can find this information easily with just a modicum of checking.
Except Patriot failed utterly time and time again in Saudi service against Iranian drones and missiles and not only failed many times to shoot down relatively primitive drones and missiles of Iran it went off target into residential appartment blocks killing many civilians, its only aircraft shoot downs was friendly fire shooting down one British Tornado and a US f16 the US air force hates it bad but its so expensive at over 1billion for the battery and 4 m illion a missile they feel they have no choice but to not toss it out. Its beyond horrible and has killed more friendly than enemy. Utter failure. Not to mention its short range. The US has fallen far behind in missiles of all kinds.
phased array radar is so highly advance. less moving part and able to adjust its directional beam foaming without moving its dish. it changes the wave lighting fast to track moving target, in theory its able to track faster moving target and multiple target at once. its almost like having 1000's of individual mini radar dish on a single dish. i always say, what makes a good air defense is having its radar able to detect and track. you cant shoot down what you cant see. phased array perform better without having a second scanning radar that other conventional radar used. although scanning radar still a plus. the west know this, this is why the buk and other system can be destroy by drone and missiles.
No it is not like "1000's of individual mini radar dish on a single dish".
Nothing like it. That would imply that such a phased array radar could track 1000+ targets simultaneously but it can't. That is not how it works.
You can't individually steer 1000 radar beams from a 1000 element phased array.
A beam is made up from the electromagnetic field of a number of active elements. So you need multiple elements working together to create and steer a beam.
@Dean G what do you mean by element? What active element?
@Dean G to make it simple. Home wifi router is phase array but with 3 to 5 antenna. They called it mimo that dose beam foaming. It directs its wave length without moving its antenna or has a different design to it. It becomes directional rather than wide area. It can direct 360-degree field in a certain spot.
The attenna length matter for wave length as its 5 gigahertz and 2.4 gigahertz . It becomes a dual band using both frequency with beam foaming.
So, if you know how the lobe of the wavelength actually gives the directional path, it can switch the directional path to every pulse simultaneously on a target. Those elements on the antenna are what I mean by 1000s of mini dishes. Also, online, they called it element, which... voltage regulators that reason it cause the lobe to change.
@@jamesdeer3129 you can say that. electric motor is old technologies as well or ram jet engine that is barely in service now that is now called hyper sonic glide vehicle. since its not common and it just started to get perfected you cal say its new.
Why is no one want to compare S-300/400 vs SM-6?
Much more equal in capabilities
SM-6 you can actually trust in a naval setting. Naval S300/S400 risks malfunction
@@spark5558 but comparing S-400 with PAC-3 is same as MZKT Volat with Ford F-750
@@Shadowboost Look at moskva. Promoted to submarine
I would think the US Pacific fleet will hesitate before entering a Taiwan 'behind the woodshed moment'
How can block the super sonic If it need 25 minutes
Are we talking about the s400 with the microwave or washing machine chip? 😂
С унитазом на борту и украденной нутеллой, у нас в России такого нет 🤣🤣🤣
У с 400 ещё стоят унитазы украденые из Украинской Бучи и Ирпиня!
Radar and microwave have the same technology indeed.
Patriot is PESA, while S400 has multiple radars that are multiband mix of AESA and PESA. S400 has double the range for both radars and missiles. It can track and engage double the targets compared to Patriot. Ready for action in 5min compared to 25 for latest patriot.
Patriot can be linked up with AN/TPY-2 AESA radar which has a range of thousands of miles.
The United States itself gave the industry to the USSR in the years 45-55 and the captured German engineers created the military technologies that Russia has now!
@@TheEeRlan Ladies and gentleman, here we have fine example of most uneducated propaganda parrot.
@@TheEeRlan how much does putin and nicolas maduro are paying you??
@@TheEeRlan Venice created the fork. Therefore all forks are from Venice.
This is your "logic".
Patriot needs 25mins to be ready while the S-400 needs 5mins.
This makes the difference btn destruction and salvation.
Cheap drones in large batches are natural enemies of an expensive air defense system.
S400 is hypersonic . Patriot is not
@Steve Abdelkoui, you wrong, S-400 don't have hypersonic missile.. normal high speed...
S400 kills itself and its crew, Patriot does not do that! Win for S400!!!
S400 doesn't work. Crimea prooved that
@@Olena.Osilo75 s400 doesnt shoot from the truck?
Patriot is trash. Can be dodged easily by modern day missiles
One more advantege of S 400 - minimum altitude of low flying targets 5 meters. Patriot - 60 meters. Much more advanced S 500s are already being delivered to the army. For the time being the only system in the world that can also shot down hypersonic missiles.
And yet, Ukraine shits on Russia.
What about shovels ?
the saudi cut off patriot and eyeing for the s400 ... that must mean something..
They have the S500 also,which has a reach of 500 kilometers.
ok but patriot is proven in war s400 failed in ukraine idiot
Patriot has PESA radar not AESA....Information is not correct in video.
The AN/MPQ-65 radar has been upgraded to AESA radar with solid state gallium nitride transmitters in place of the older PESA with passive transmitters
The United States itself gave the industry to the USSR in the years 45-55 and the captured German engineers created the military technologies that Russia has now!
@@TheEeRlan LOL the best engineers like Wernher von Braun went to the USA and donated the technology to the USA. The USSR received a minimum of technology in those years and finalized everything on their own.
The S-300-400 is designed to fight NATO style warfare, who aim for air dominance, while the Patriot system is designed to deal with soviet style warfare thats more artillary and missle oriented.
s400 is a joke
S-300-400 wasn't designed to fight anything. Russia, as a nuclear power, consider themselves untouchable, and thus their military since the 80's was a cesspit of corruption, and since 2010's a propaganda movie studio for peasants. Nobody in Russia actually thought of using their weapons in a full scale war. Meanwhile US was actually constructing weapons to use in wars, and they actually did use them in wars.
Nonsense. Patriot doesn't engage artillery. Where did you even get that info? The s-whatever is designed to shoot down passenger jets and friendly ruski aircraft.
@@chillbeats320
If S400 is a joke than what about your Patriots that sucked in Kiev against a single Kinzhal firing 30 missiles in a minute?🤡
@@chillbeats320until u shіt your pants😂
Arrow 3!
We will also download the satellite for you on the way, thank you GOOD BAY!.
It's impossible, the people who draw this are genius people on a level you won't understand...a sharp mind is not ordinary people, it's not clear at all with people, I was shocked.
Thanks for promoting The Patriot system
First time we have to see the direct fight between American vs Russian technology.
True and so in Battle S400is really not that good so far 1blew itself up another took out it's own plane and Ukraine has destroy 2with AGM anti radar Russia on paper sounds great but in Battle is the real test and it is not performing well sorry Russia and the more we see the more weaknesses we are finding
The United States itself gave the industry to the USSR in the years 45-55 and the captured German engineers created the military technologies that Russia has now!
@@rosevitelli5814 the US system didn't stop the drone in Saudi Arabia from Iran. Both systems were not fully designed for drones and wouldn't perform that well.
Clinton gave our nuclear weapons technology to China and Obama gave our hyper missile research to China, and the congress ,during the Obama administration,only passed 1 budget in 8 years.And that was when we were fighting a 2 front war.7 years of inflation eating away at the defense budget weakens the nation.
We have a missile that can take out their best missiles before it reaches apogee.Their hypersonic ICBM is not hypersonic,the warheads are.My question is,are the Russians hypersonic missiles the same as the Mig-57 and the T-14? It looks like the American press has been hyping the Russians military prowess. They don't control the narrative anymore.
usa= aircraft
Russia= air defense
but what is air defense doing
@@karlakarl3715 knocks everything down if you don’t know the clown))))))) Especially American shit
@@karlakarl3715 It defends air
US and Israel broke many Soviet air defenses technologies….Iraq had it and Syria has it too but,Americans kept get in and out like they own it.
@@karlakarl3715 Shoots down hostile aircraft
S-500/S-550 (Prometey) vs Patriot
The Russians need to build it and get it operational first
is the patriot good at engaging low altitude cruise missiles ?
Why S-400 is better than Patriot?
While the Patriot system was developed in 1982, the S-400 was created in 2007. The Patriots need 25 minutes for being ready for launching, while it takes only five minutes for the S-400. The S-400 can lock on to 72 targets at the same time, while the Patriot can lock on to 36 targets.
If the missile system is up and running, and there are 10 inbound enemy targets, is it better to have Patriot or S-400?
That's the first question. Now the second question.
Does the user Country of the missile system actually have a choice which they use, Patriot or S-400?
36 targets in screen in follow targets only 16!!! Patriot is bullish. Was an Soldier for Patriot and 25min for combat ready is very very optimist... 🤣 🤣 🤣 Roughly 1h
The only consolation for the Russians is when the Patriot system was developed in 1982. But they are trying to hide the fact that the S-400 is not capable of competing with a 25-year-old system.
@@avrracer4175 I think Putin is bullish! 😂
@@mikaeljonsson4686 where is joke?
Will wars ever cease?
Maybe someday
Compare the PAC 3 to S-300 - it is the better comparison
min 5:04 SAM explodes close, Kinetic Interceptor is... kinetic
the Patriot has a different role than the S400
yes, the role of a patriot is to transfer public money into the american militaro complex system, while the S400 is an anti-air missile system.
@@galimbertino4939 We will see now that it is going to Ukraine - And that US military system is why Russia has not Nuked Ukraine... Because it is too powerful. And why Ukraine, a little country is able to fend off "Mighty Russia"
@@maxgaetz7432they’re targeted to serve different roles due to different military doctrine. Both are very capable and the patriot will be a great fit for taking down russian missiles since that is their primary purpose. S400 tend to be more focused on aircraft and other less maneuverable targets. I get why people compare them but they’re different enough that it’s hard to really compare directly
Of course , the patriot has a different role : to fall on his own Arab positions
@@maxgaetz7432 The only reason that Russia did not launch a nuclear strike on Ukraine is only that Russia is taking these territories for itself, and not some ridiculous American air defense systems
S-400 has much wider range, higher speed, lower cost and higher effectiveness. S-400 is a much newer platform which went into service in 2007 while the Patriot system went into service in 1981. Furthermore, the S-400 needs only 5 minutes to be deployed while Patriot needs 25 minutes. The S-400 can lock on to 72 targets at the same time, while Patriot can lock on to 36 targets. There is no comparison. S-400 wins hands down.
Either way Ukraine with patriot is bad for Russia. They are getting ready for F16. They are training crazy amounts of Ukrainians in the west. You can meet them in the supermarkets. They’re everywhere. Russia is not the only one mobilising.
Russian weapons are proven to be junk.
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Funny people
And you know this because you know the true capabilities of both completely. I'm assuming you've worked on and used both....
While there both SAMS there also both designed for different roles.
Its bit like comparing a smart phone and PC yeah there both computers and do computer things but there not really that comparable.
Exactly .
Need for communication signals tracking tactical anti warhead system.
The United States itself gave the industry to the USSR in the years 45-55 and the captured German engineers created the military technologies that Russia has now!
@@TheEeRlan Russia military ranks one of the worst. Merry Christmas
Russian missile have unique features "Return to Sender"
Search about patriot that hits own countries fighter jets kid
Patriot is rubbish ,even the US give india with free ,India Will choice s 400 , India Will buy it from Russia even under sanktion
Why is it that Americans have to make what they think are clever comments to ridicule other countries achievements without thinking of their own failings which are many. Your smart arse typical American comment means nothing as it has no proof. The well known saying “Friendly fire” comes from the numerous times American troops were fired upon by their own. British troops in the last war hated fighting alongside Americans for the fact that they were as likely to be killed by friendly fire by the Americans
@Corey Leander so mad that we rejected patriot ait defense and purchased s400...
@Corey Leander you are a kid. Get out from here
Well, i think 8 months later we know who the winner is.
Now tell me who is the winner?
And both are of no use against HGV led missiles so yeah.
Once there are cheaper HGVs the Air defence systems would be a thing of the past.
when mass hypersonic missiles appear, then hypersonic missile defense will appear
@@Airaleais US not having hypersonic missiles doesn't equate to lack of hypersonic missiles.
China uses a large variety of Hypersonic missiles and a vehicle version.
Only Russia has operational HGV as of now.
@@swarajkar3086 both Russia and china have operational HGV as of now.
It's almost like a sales pitch video.
I imagine if we can fly cheap dummy aircrafts/drones which would have small form factor but it looks big on the air defense radar and that can trigger a missile. This way we can exhaust the Air defense missiles and easily destroy it. Can it be possible?
Don't give the Chinese and Russians ideas
One aircraft, five aircraft.
You can use dummy aircrart. The radar is opened to track and lock at you. Later you detect it by antiradiation dron and damage it. That tactic is used in Azerbaijan war...
@@Wolf_3125 pretty sure they already thought of that
Stuff like this has existed for more than half a century:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-20_Quail
S-400 for sure
For sure what? They each have separate missions... true comparison isn't possible...
I think he did a fairly unbiased comparison. Though he did leave out some of the features mentioned in the comments.
One of the primary purposes of the S-400 system since this weapon was introduced into the arsenal is the interception of ballistic missiles. This is one of the main differences compared to the S-300.
The main purpose of the S-500 system is to intercept ICBM's. (ICBM's are not the only ballistic missiles).
True, the Patriot was used in the Middle East, but it didn't perform particularly well even against the ancient Scud in that moment. The Israelis were not particularly thrilled with this kind of protection during the USA war against Iraq.
The Middle East is not particularly valid evidence for the successful use of the Patriot.
too much vodka...
Given the use of cheap low and slow flying drones, an old school AA battery supported by modern targeting equipment seems like the go to option left out in most modern militaries.
laser AA technology is epensive and secret, but NATO own this technology lol
@@projektdarkside8499 Why use an experimental, extremely expensive and energy guzzling system when you can use a simple inexpensive tool?
@@angrydoggy9170 long range, any speed, any object, can be destroyed. Laser technology are weapons of future.
@@projektdarkside8499 Perhaps, but as it stands now only for static structures or large vehicles due to the power consumption.
@@angrydoggy9170actually, lasers are relatively cheap to operate and are already proven via the Israeli iron beam system, and other US systems that have been tested in the recent years
Best UA-cam video Ive ever seen.
S 400 is world best air difence system
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Help me with this: S-400s are cold-launched, so it doesn't have a direction when it leaves the canister, i.e., there is no "opposite side" for S-400. Patriots are launched in the canister, so their side is predetermined by the orientation of the launcher.
Is that what you meant when you said "only Patriots can fire missiles against targets coming from the opposite side"? Because S-400s don't have an opposite side?
It's exactly the opposite, S400 can attack in any direction, Patriot can't, only in direction its positioned, guy is talking BS
Both the systems are weapons of the century
Actually, they are from different centuries. Since the S-400 is a much newer platform which went into service in 2007 while the Patriot system went into service in 1981. Also, S-400 has much wider range, higher speed, lower cost and higher effectiveness. As well as it needs only 5 minutes to be deployed while Patriot needs 25 minutes. Furthermore, the S-400 can lock on to 72 targets at the same time, while Patriot can lock on to 36 targets. There is no comparison. S-400 wins hands down. Patriot is comparable with S-300 which is a much older system like the Patriot.
The time of deploying is way higher 25 minutes and plus target engagement via 5 minutes
Considering turkey was happy to turn down patriot systems for s400 systems being in NATO should say it all
The S-400 was advertised to only have the secondary capability to shootdown missiles and rockets, its main use is for anti-aircraft which is already proven last Febuary when an S-400 from the Russian side of the border shoot down a Ukrainian airforce Su-27 over Ukrainian capital city of Kiev piloted by veteran pilot Colonel Oleksandr "Grey wolf" Oksanchenko. From the Russian border to the Capital city that is an estimated range of over 250km away. No other SAM system has ever done a kill like that over that range, and even the latest and longest range variant of the Patriot looks like a peashooter compared to the S-400
Patriots is better than S-400
we want to talk about the lack of microchips and processors. I think that in the West the s400 systems have been evaluated in all its components. In the end what is this system? an alert system coupled with a missile launcher. So good missiles and good radar combined with good software. Then the Americans also had s300s in their hands ... However, the accuracy of Russian missiles in ground attacks is low. I would not like them to be a little overrated, the s400s are not an advanced version of the s300 with new radars and new developments
Drones are smaller and use materials that can avoid radars will be a threat towards anti air defence. The war shown S400 dose has it flaws but patriot outshines it.
ready for launch
S-400 can integrate S-300, BUK, TOR AND PANTSIR in a multilayer defense system, patriot does not have such ability, S-400 cost 500 million dollars each while the patriot cost 1000 million dollars each. In ukraine an S-400 set a world record shoting down an ukranian Su-27 from more than 150 km away....
I mean... one google search and its clear youre talking shit.
We will be soon seeing how patriots destroy fascist russian army targets
russia has rubbish talk about s-400 nothing else
that record has been beaten by a S-300V4 system, It has shot down a su-27 and mig-29 from 217 km away
@@Bon_jamai Well no because it was literally confirmed. That record has been broken by an older system so imagine what S-400 and S-500 can do
S-400 is is the most advanced air defence system in the world.
And the US are jealous about that.
AEGIS and AEGIS Ashore are far superior.
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Do we know how many targets the 92n6e can track and engage at a time???
It can track 300, engage 80 targets. Even divided by 5 (time to get Patriot ready compared to S-400) makes it a lot more capable being multifunctional. Patriot is shyte from 80's, no way to make this junk any better but it make sense paying 200% more money compared to superior S-400 :)
Pls make a vdo on S500
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Who cares about deployment time faster setup doesn't mean its superior. It failed against HIMARS in Ukraine and failed against Tomahawks in Syria nothing but a paper tiger system and i bet S-500 wouldn't fair any better. Russian technology are cheap, unreliable, pathetic ad inferior to US technology even its military are pathetic to modern standards. It failed taking down Ukraine in 7 months, annexed taken territories but failed to defend its newly acquired territory then Russians Civilians fleeing Russia and Russian men force to become a cannon fodder and even have many incidents within Russian recruitment center, how pathetic Russia has become ever since the Soviet Union collapse its nothing but a corpse walking onn2 legs and a backwater nation of Eurasia.
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Why is Russian army so successful in Ukraine? They do use state of the art weaponry. Stealth tanks Armata, first class cruise missiles which hit the target once in two attempts. Russian air dominance has amazed all onlookers. And just a slight premonition whispers that the same goes for these miraculous S 400.
The S-500 been in service already. Why in the future?
wahahahahahahahhaa stop dreaming only 2 like su57 only 6 and t14 armata 20plus lol dont cry
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The United States itself gave the industry to the USSR in the years 45-55 and the captured German engineers created the military technologies that Russia has now!
@@hazelotida4545 cope
@@TheEeRlan Ignorant comment. USSR had way better tanks than Germans until Germans came out later with the Tiger. Most of the German engineers fled to US, before USSR could capture them. US is the one who has all its technology thanks to German engineers. Soviet engineers were already strong before 1945.
Don’t forget it doesn’t matter if the tech doesn’t work the people don’t know how to use it or it is trying to hit a F-22
nothing compared to S400
And yet 3 have been destroyed in Crimea. Even slow moving HIMARS rockets are making it through to destroy the S-400. HIMARS rockets travel at mach 2.5 which should be easy pickings for an S-400.
A new kid is on the block. The Iranian made BAVAR 373 air defence system/Battery
Shitty system and not proven
Which system does better against cheap drones?
none of them. Drones became the serious threat after both systems were designed
@@iyhan1987 It was a rhetorical question, but thanks. I wonder if the enabling technology for drones isn't smartphones - plenty of processing horsepower, gps, camera and accelerometers. If you make them cheap enough, I don't see how you can easily defend against them.
Iranian drone = $20k, Patriot missile = $4mil.... so a swamp of 1 patriot worth of drones, 200 of them can easily destroy the whole battery worth 100s of millions
There were some obvious mistakes about S-400. One of them is the sistem was designed for air targets. No. The main porpose of this rocket complex is defeating the war heads with nuclear charges. It can purely be coordinated with space satellites. The sistem has a ground-ground variety. S-500 is already in production.
So, long story short: it depends. Both were designed for different roles based on military doctrine. Both have unique advantages and disadvantages that can be exploited by a capable military, and both are having to adapt due to changing tactics on the battlefield. Personally, give me AESA radars all day long. Yes, more expensive, and maintenance is higher, but they have proven to be far more effective. Overall, the Patriot is more versatile in the kind of defense provided, but the S-400 is more mobile, and in high enough numbers, may be more effective at incoming aircraft or missiles.
The United States itself gave the industry to the USSR in the years 45-55 and the captured German engineers created the military technologies that Russia has now!
The s 400 on the thumbnail looks a lot like thaad.