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My AGV FAILED! After RF 1100, RF 1200 and K6 - ENTER RF 1400 | Shoei vs AGV Experience v1722
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2022
- Much sad, not glad. My experience with the AGV K6 was not the best and interaction with the warranty team only soured the waters further. The only POSSIBLE explanation that could be is that someone dropped my helmet while I was not looking. AGV suggested that the crack is due to an improper cheek pad install or perhaps a communication device install, or a crash. None of this has happened. With only 1 year warranty I'm realizing that AGV is a bit of a joke compared to the rest of the market. Waiting to hear what kind of discount they will offer on a new lid - guessing a EPIC 10% - LOL. Perhaps it's because I bought a cheap AGV and not the fancy fancy but I have had a few helmets and have never seen a failure that bad. I've even dropped helmets and none of them failed like so. Bizzare. So, after only 2.5 years the K6 has to be retired aka throwin into trash and in comes Shoei RF1400 - the helmet I should have bought to begin with instead of falling in love with Nardo grey and the way italian flag logo pops off. Anyway, I think that is enough shade. I just hope RF1400 treats me good. Thank you for all for the love - ride safe - let me hear what helmet you are rockin in the comments below.
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Thanks, ordered my RF-1400 Accolade today, just saw your review and it made me feel good about my purchase.
Shoei > AGV anyday allday
Wow. Thank you for this. I was going back and forth btwn Shoei and the AGV. Made my decision easy and never any regrets.
You are most welcome. To make matters worse their customer service seems to not be the best either. Shame. Real shame.
Same helmet as me. Great taste! I have videos of it on my channel as well. The only negative I can say is the transition visor for it is an extra $200. I'm happy you decided to share the truth about agv. They owe you a free replacement and apology. I'm surprised Union Garage hasn't stepped up this replace this for you either. They typically are top notch even after the shop move.
Yea, they are DEFFINITELY not giving me a free replacement - I'm guessing they will give me 10% discount code or something hilarious like that. I've learned my lesson about subpar warranty. And yea, Union Garage def didn't want anything to do with this, sadly.
Spot on. Good video, information and your honestly on it matters. Interestingly, I came from a Shoei 1200 to an Arai Defiant-X in 2020 and it's fantastic FWIW. One of my best friends rides in a Shoei 1400 and digs it.
Yea I tried the DefiantX and it fit like a silky glove, i legit wish I got that one instead of the AGV - would still be rocking it - i guarantee it.
Very (shockingly) informative, thank you. Love my nardo grey Arai with dark visor, but you can't go wrong with Shoei. May try Shoei next time, parts seem to be easier to get than Arai and there are so many options. Cheers
Yea, I love those nardo grey Arai's as well but I went back to the flat black roots on this one.
Yup I’m a shoei guy myself. I’ve got the special edition RF-1200 Brigand. It’s about time to replace it but I’ve never found a cooler helmet.
Looking forward to videos with the new helmet!
Yea, can't go wrong with the trusty 1200. Perfect shape, size, quality and price.
Scary with that crack in your AGV. I will check inside my helmet for cracks. I do love that nardo grey. But the matt black Shoei also looks great
Yea, nardo grey was nice. Scarry is that i heard that creak for a while before I decided to check the helmet out. I def rode 100's of miles with a broken helmet.
Great vid! I’m currently in between the two mainly because of airflow. Would love to see a long term review /comparison after having used both for several months!
Rf1400 is without a doubt a much better helmet and the one I should have gotten instead of ever going with the K6. K6 has a really cute color and thats that.
@@ducatinyc awesome, thanks!
Nice lid update review 👌👍👏😀
Shame it had to be done.
Congratulations on your new helmet, you have a great selection of helmets.
Yep, built up a sweet little collection - too bad 3 of them are no good anymore! Thank you!
Hi there.
I also once bought an agv. A carbon one really light ax9 carbon I believe is the model. It also disappointed me with its build quality. It was falling apart after a year of use and of course I never dropped it.It felt cheap in every piece of it, shell , visor , chin strap (which was the first thing that fell apart). An hjc that I had the same time and cost 1/3 of the price was way better. Then I bought the shoei nxr of rf1200 for you and it served me really well for 4 years of daily commute and traveling once or twice a year. I still use it as commuter but soon I’ll stop as the interior is in really bad shape and I decided to renew my helmet with the nxr2 or rf1400 for you. So far I am really satisfied also with the new one and I’m thinking to buy the transition shield as it will make a huge difference to me in sunny Greece I live. Long story short with shoei you get what you pay and so do you with hjc. With agv I doubt so. When I see someone wearing an agv nowadays I feel sorry for him 🤷🏻♂️
I agree with you 100% - its a real shame they do not stand behind their products and do not support them with warranty. They did not even want my helmet back to take a look and see what the issue could have been. Zero damage on the outside. Oh well. Back to the good helmet brand.
I have a K6-S with an add-on chin mount and Cardo comms. Replaced an old ICON Alliance. I had originally preordered a KLIM TK1200, but the size/color I wanted was out of stock for close to a year, which was the whole riding season here in the midwest.
I like the AGV so far. Light as a feather, dons/doffs easily, good airflow, wide field of view. Negatives--visor fogs easily when down/locked, replacement visors are $125+, and one of my cheekpads keeps coming unsnapped. Nothing major. I may warranty the cheekpad thing if it persists.
I will say that IMHO their US Corporate office (AGV is a Chinese brand) is likely nothing more than a distribution center. I called them a few weeks after purchase, asking if I could order two spare helmet bags, and was told no. And they seemed very confused about it. I have a feeling that if my helmet had not shipped with a bag they would have totally freaked out. They would have had to have warranty claimed it or something. No idea.
Glad to have found your video. I will definitely try a Shoei next time around.
Thank you for sharing your story and experience with your helmet - i hope it treats you well :)
Hi....did U ever do a review of this RF 1400? I searched your back videos and missed it if you did. Did it turn out to be substantially quieter than the RF 1200 and AGV K6? I have a RF-SR (jet roar loud) and a K6 which initially was substantially quieter but now seems pretty loud. Recently bought an Arai Concept XE which is unbearably loud. Maybe my Schuberth C3 Pro spoiled me for quiet but that helmet has close to zero ventilation which makes it stifling in PA summer heat and humidity. I've been considering a RF 1400. Yeah I do wear earplugs but helmet/wind noise is still a major issue depending on helmet.
i dont own any agv or aria but i have many other including 5 Shoei helmets. It's hard to beat the shoei, the Scorpion line that cost about 1/2 has some very similar helmets in comfort and sound. I'm pretty convinced that if you have a shoei helmet, sidi boots, and some mid-high end AS gloves your about as solid as you can get on your extremities. Cheers
I agree 100%. Had to learn the lesson the hard way - I knew going with AGV was a risk but didn't think it was a risk like THIS. Waste of money, sadly.
You can't miss that crack in the helmet that's shocking it's a good job you didn't have a accident or a bad fall 🤔
Seriously. That would have been bad.
I just bought an Arai regent X a couple of months ago and coming from a Scorpion it’s a way better built helmet and quiet. The only thing I don’t like about it is that it’s not very aerodynamic at all. Highway speeds the wind pushes my head backwards and is very uncomfortable where as my Scorpion did not do that at all but was very loud. The Arai is very well made and comfortable to wear but I probably should of went with the Shoei RF1400 that I was initially looking at.
Can't go wrong with Arai. Great brand, awesome feeling materials. 1400 was def the right choice for me. Such a solid product.
I have The Aria Defiant X that you mentioned. I went with it because it is supposedly a good aerodynamic shape for a naked bike. I've been happy with it. Might try a Shoei next, haven't had one before, but everyone seems to lover theirs. Sux your AGV failed, they have a great reputation from what I hear, hope they take care of you.
Sadly they will not take care of me. They claim its my fault, waiting to hear what discount code they will give me to get a new helmet. I bet it will be 10% or something.
You know, I needed a replacement for my HJC and checked out the K6. I wound up going for the Shoei NXR as well... in white, too. Ha! Small world.
It's a great helmet!
K6 is cute and all but I'd go with Shoei on the warranty alone.
I ordered a k6 to my local cyclegear because of their current winter sale. Hoping this was just a defect on yours as I’ve seen mostly rave reviews on it. I’ll be sure to inspect it thoroughly and will return if I’m not satisfied. I was debating on the k6 or rf1400 but when this sale came up the wider price gap ultimately made my decision at this time
Its a gorgeous helmet that I really loved, hopefuly I did get a lemon. I just know that I will not be buying an AGV again, or any time soon.
@@ducatinyc the k6 did not fit my head well, coughed up the extra bucks and got a white rf1400, fits me great
Damn, that sucks. I love my AGV sportmodular but I will check inside for any damage. Helmet is pristine otherwise. Only thing I could think of as to why that happened is the helmet might be a too small for your head?
Actually the helmet was a bit too big for my head if antyhing, it had more movement than I would like but fit fine. I'm guessing it got dropped when I was not looking - maybe at some moto event. But I would think there would be a damage on the outside shell as well. Real shame.
Funny thing, after watching your vloggy about the K6. I bought one and also not very happy with it. Looks better than Shoei, the quality is not. I wonder how the Schubert helmets are? Hope that 1400 lasts another 10 years, enjoy it and be safe!
Agreed. Looks epic but the quality is not there - at least not in my experience. 1 year warranty is also a joke but I guess I chose to ignore that when buying. Not too familiar with Schuberts but I bet they are nice.
oh no! good thing you spotted that crack early. Im thinking of buying a K6 (almost bought it last weekend) now I am having 2nd thoughts lol
I would skip on it if I were you. ONLY 1 year warranty is not worth the risk - and them saying its possible damage from removing cheeckpads is hilarious.
@@ducatinyc im actually choosing between agv k6 and hjc rpha 11. i just really like the gray color thats why im leaning to getting an agv
@@PinoyGeekster literally the only real reason i got the AGV - the color.
Crazy I still have my rf-1000 I got 3 of them I just recently bought the 1100,1200 I just got back into riding. I’ll be definitely grabbing the 1400 i started with Shoei I’ll end with them.
Can't ever go wrong with a Shoei. Smart choice!
I think you must have just gotten a bad k6. I have had three k6 helmets. One of them is retired after it saved my noggin in a crash last summer where it hit the ground, and the eps is still fully intact inside even after the crash. And the other two of them are also fully intact inside. I wear them daily as my primary helmet for daily commuting.
I love the helmet but its a shame how it broke and how they treated me. They blamed it on me installing the GoPro or headset incorrectly? BS. They did not offer to fix the issue. So, sadly, no more AGV for me for awhile, maybe after 10 years I"ll forget this BS and try it again.
Ohhh no I have rf1100 for 11 year and I replaced inside and the helmet is perfect. Last week I bought AGV K6 outlet 😢 .
11 years????? No. Gotta swap it every 5 as per Shoei
Great helmet mate, and a great cap on you ))
Haha thank you! Agreed. Great upgrade :)
I was looking at the k6 and bought 1400 instead. After trying them both, the interior padding feels like a toy compared to the 1400 padding. Is thin and cheap feeling. It was no brainer to buy the 1400.
Hmmm, I actually really liked the padding and f eel of the K6, feels very soft and pleasant - but it is a shame that the foam cracked after just a year. 1400 is clearly a superior helmet, hands down.
Same helmet (agv ) mine has a crack forming in the same location. also approaching 2 years. not sure how but looking a shoe
So frustrating, since the helmet is actually really neat looking, awesome color, light, all that. SIGH.
I was debating between the 1400 or K6 with the Shoei being my favourite so far. The K6 just seems overpriced. Also going to look into the HJC RPHA 11 and Scorpion Exo R1. How do you like the 1400 compared to the 1200?
I loved my K6, for the short time I had it. Sigh. 1400 is just as plush and awesome as the 1200, just fresher as well. I know its not much of a description but..... I love Shoei helmet quality.
@@ducatinyc Thanks. Not much difference in quietness, ventilation or fit then right? I'm still trying to find a "new" 1200 so I can cut down on the cost a bit.
I would not get the scorpion r1, I got it and it had a annoying whistle the entire time, I returned mine just for that
Are they friendly with sunglasses? Do you wear sunnies when you ride? I see you like the clear visors but don’t seem to ride at night much
I don't ride at night because I CANT SEEEEEEE. But they do have a transition shield for these helmets.
@@ducatinyc How do you ride when its sunny with only a clear visor? Especialy in sunset.
@@robans I squint and ruin my eyes like a silly person.
Nice vlog
Thank you for the love!
My AGV does not have cutouts for wearing glasses. I can only use it with contact lenses on.
It sounds like AGV helmets just look cute, thats about it. I was not happy with the ventilation at all and then it just cracked.
Wow, Big crack! AGV K3 SV. Good fit, but a bit noisy.
HUGE crack. Shame. I hope your AGV is treating you well.
I am a total Shoei fan boy. Nice choice.
Same. But wanted to try something different. Won't be doing that again.
i also had the same cracks on a brand new agv k6, sent it back
DANG. I wonder if I had this crack for a long time and I didn't realize? What a waste of $. Shame.
Possible, I got Comms kit same time so I noticed it straight away
Sorry to hear that bro. I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on the K6 yet. I was debating on the K6 and the RF1400. I wanted the K6 so bad cuz it's super light.
I hate the top front air vent on the new helmet. It looks like a pig snout! I have the previous NXR but I just can't buy the new one.
Pig snout hahaha :) Pigs are cute tho
You have to stick with your brand my dude. You started with the #1 helment, no need to try something new unless you started with a budget helmet.
I loved the cute nardo grey color of AGV, and the logo is adorbs, but thats about it. Shoei for me going forward.
@Ducati NYC Vlog lmao. I hear ya, bro!
I got me an RF-1400 last week and am very pleased with it. Thanks for steering me away from the K6! Coming from an Icon Airflite, this was an upgrade in aerodynamics and wind noise. Also a fan of the matte black looks. Cheers mate! 🤙
Yea, I had high hopes for the K6. The only thing I can think of is it got dropped when I was not looking but I would imagine that would leave a mark on the outside.
Downgrading from a SHoei to AGV????
Nope, back to shoei 1400 - agv failed
Shoei and Arai 👍🤙
Can't go wrong with either.
Perfect
I really hope so
I started out with a 1200 and loved it, but when I tried on my Arai quantum it just fit my head shape way better. That new 1400 looks icy 🥶
Can't really go wrong with either brand. Both are proper quality.
Wow, that sucks. Definitely staying away from AGV. I'm rocking a Bell Qualifier at the moment but the next upgrade is between Bell Star DLX or a Shoei!
Yea, its a real shame for sure. Can't go wrong with a Shoei
what do you think of scorpion exo air r1 carbon
I must admit I'm not familiar with the Scorpion brand but i just looked up the helmet and it looks pretty fantastic to be honest.
@@ducatinyc I’m deciding between, agv k6 / shoei 1400 / exo air r1
@@topx2698 well, id say def not the k6. Rf1400 is easily better
@@ducatinyc my top pick is the scorpion 😅
This kind of damage is common in helmets that hang on the handlebars of the motorcycle 😉
Makes sense. I may have hung my helmet a total of 4 times from my bike
@@ducatinyc I know this because the same thing happened to me with an Arai helmet 😂 Ride safe
Does this really compromise the safety of the helmet? Modular helmets don't rely on a solid one piece shell and my understanding is the the interior foam shell is just designed for compression on impact which a crack wouldn't affect. You mentioned contacting AGV, it would be interesting to hear what they think about this.
Could you or someone from the comment section suggest me a couple of helmet's between 80-150 dollars?
Hmm, I'm not too familiar with that price zone but maybe someone else can hop in and answer?
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Although I’m willing to bet your head, neck, face and life are worth more than $150 just saying. 🤙🏼
The only AGV made in Italy is the Pista. All other AGV is made in China and yes all cheaper than Pista quality.
Yea, thats what I learned - makes sense. Shoei it is. At least thats Japanese for sure
@@ducatinyc I’m going with Arai owned shoei already. But waiting for the Alpinestars coming out in Feb. 2024 made in Italy.
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You know what AGV will say? You put shit on the helmet. Sorry. Our helmets aren't meant to have stuff put on them. You altered the shape.
I've heard it before.
Yep, they did try to use the excuse about improper cheek pad install and removal and communication system install - the one that goes on COMPLETELY OTHER SIDE OF THE HELMET and would no way in hell make the safety foam snap. 1 year warranty is a joke anyway. For a 500$ kit. Lesson learned. Never again.
@@ducatinyc makes me doubt about buying my x3000
Do not buy AGV K6!
Its a shame, cuz I really love the look and feel of this helmet