Lots of people are asking for the CK3 map mod, it's a making of partly my own creation, find it here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3103516555
bro you are the only one to put into words a feeling that I have had for YEARS I thought I was the only one who thought like this and had these weird fantasy power trips.
@@kzizzles8329 geography is mostly about the physical region, not political, although political interests stem from the properties of the land, it mostly isnt sufficient enough
@@josephleebob3828 It was a political science class so it was mostly focused on the political region, however, PDX games did teach me the names of a lot of regions as well such as islands and other geographical features
@@michaelchance6125 I mean with stuff like Britain you have the redcoats and the blue uniforms the French always used so it makes sense to represent the countries with those colours
I think it's amusing how specifically Paradox has ingrained in my head what colors certain nations are. England/Britain MUST be red. France MUST be blue. Spain MUST be yellow, and so on.
Yes! Same lol, on a typical classroom world map all the countries are some variation of blue-green-even pink I feel, but not Paradox, and they’re the only one who’s right!
SAME! Man I cannot WAIT to see the full EU5 map in all its glory, honestly the campaign map is the thing I'm the most excited for in a new grand strategy game
PDX games are the only reason I associate nations with colors. France has a red white and blue flag, but if you color them red on a map it makes me want to die. And Russia doesn't even have green in its flag, but i'll have a brain aneurism if you color them anything but green.
Green is a traditional Russian military colour. They used it in their military uniforms since the military reforms of Czar Peter the Great, through the 18th and 19th centuries and up to and including the First World War. Imagine being Charles XII of Sweden and seeing a giant blob of green moving along the steppe near Poltava
@@TheCloud-z8hI told a girl I was flirting with that I do knew the story of "the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia" Went better than you might think lol
@@vroomkaboom108 same, all started at least for me, when i get one earth globe that talk and when you touch a country on the globe, say the name, information, demographics, climate etc at the same time i play whit magnetix and build all sort of things since childhood
@@fabianustertius6460 Oh nice I had a globe too, but was a paper covered, plastic miniature globe that didn't do anything lmao. Was obsessed with it for months
I started my journey thinking Scotland was on the continent, underestimating Russia's size, thinking they must be somewhere right of where Belarus is because of the pretty fields and forests. Today, my map knowledge is the admiration of my teachers...
One thing I kinda find amusing about Paradox is the sheer lengths they went through to represent every major Islamic nation and Empire in a shade of Green. For those that don't know Muslims historically represented themselves with mostly Green and it is a colour most closely associated with Islam, even today with flags of countries. This is why I personally don't like the Red Ottomans or the Blueish colour the Persians have in CK3, since now I'm so used to the Green.
It's all depends on what is their origin. Persians have had a different religion before islamisation and they do not see themselves arabic (they don't). Also Turks are different kind of people and they are belong to the asian / siberian steppes and they adopted the islam. Their indentity is different.
Crusader Kings 2 is my first "Grand Strategy" and it's what made me so fascinated by history. When I first started playing I kept hearing about how the "Byzantine Empire" was a meme and didn't even know what the god damn hell that Empire was, but now I restore the true Empire and weep at videos of it's former glory. To this day whenever I want to play somewhere new I look up it's history especially if the character to play is historical and I can immerse myself in the rich stories it produces and smile gleefully for a brief time to become those people and destroy their enemies.
Yes! For me to it’s so important to know who you’re playing as to feel immersed. It’s why I feel a connection to the European or middle eastern factions more than anywhere else, which tells you I need to educate myself more on the characters and factions I haven’t played as much yet!
i love the imperator rome map-coloring, how they combined diplomatic border colours with a natural map, and depending on your scroll level you shift from one to the other. :)
@@AndysParadox combines best of both worlds... zooming out, diplo colour is everything. But zooming in, landscape is better then one color covering the entire screen.
I think that's one thing CA could learn from PDX. I don't like how since Attila, color has taken a back seat in their historical TW games. In Rome TW Barbarian Invasion, the Saxons were a vibrant orange while the WRE was a vibrant red. Everything is so washed out in Attila and while I think its still a great game, I just don't get the same sense of painting the map
For sure! Later CA games actually have a political-kind of map where the terrain is painted in high-contrast colours, but it's not really made to be played on but is mostly for strategic clarity every now and then
It’s gotten to the point that I’m actually disappointed when I mention a country and people don’t even know what I’m talking about. In my junior year of high school, a girl actually stopped and asked the teacher if Mexico was a part of the USA. I couldn’t hide the disdain from my face
Lmao, I literally have a superiority complex every time I have geo complex. Had an exam where I needed to specify which nation was the founder of some organisation in 1970'or sum. It was specified to draw the nation, I drawn it to perfection. But my teacher though I was wrong because of the atrocious guess of my classmates
For me, reading maps was how I learned to read. I was really little i started reading maps. So, paradox games combine my love of maps, history, and gaming.
I remember just watching my father play EU4 when I was 5 and then I started playing and I didn't even know to count to 11 on english I just saw some things he did to build armies start wars and few others and start wars
So that's why I like maps. Damn, I never even noticed. I totally get a dopamine hit when I stare at a good map. Even made some myself, from simulated plate tectonics to weather patterns to civilisations and cultural barriers based on the previous two. I'm clearly waaay too far-gone.
0:15 I in fact, kept getting distracted by the map in my classroom, I’ve always enjoyed maps, city planning, battle planning, and logistics (since before pre school) I was introduced to age of empires, simcity, Red Alert 2, Civ 4, Lord of the rings, and Attack of the Clones, at a very young age. A little later though, I got into Rome Total War, I also played Empire Earth 3 and while it was bad, I really liked the idea of a EE or AoE like game with a global conquest mode. (And Empire at War came out around the time I was in late elementary school. Side note, it also got me into Star Wars Galaxies a few years later, before I could figure out how to even play an MMO. I didn’t even know what an MMO was at the time) I have been a strategist, siege engineer, and civil engineer, All my life. I also love designing space warships, so I’m also a Space Engineer. lol
I loved map painting in grand theft Auto san Andres and loved conquest of the whole map with glitches. When i played empire total war i was elated. Then i tried CK2, and i wa hooked. eu4, Victoria 2, and ck3 made me deeper in the rabbit hole.
Except the struggle screens in CK3, the start info and the end covers the whole map, and leaves nothing to be admired, " You've unified Hispania! " with no Hispania in sight, because the pop up covered it.
I was obsessed with maps after age 4, its when I got my first global geography book. It had details of every country at the time and a map of them. I read that book through far too many times. In school geography was effortlessly easy to me and everyone always asked me for help in that subject. I only found Paradox games at age 17, and that was HOI4 when it had its first DLC. Sometimes I wonder if I should have studied geography in university, but Im happy to be chemical engineer as well.
Genuinely almost came when i recreated the borders of the Carolingian empire as Burgundy > Lotharingia in eu4. Every time i unify Italy, or recreate late 19th century - early 20th century Balkan borders. Giving Greece control of the Aegean coast, or playing tall as the Netherlands, united Nusantara and defending the archipelago from colonisers, uniting India and staring at a finally cleann religious mapmode. Perfect Persian borders, getting clean Chinese borders after a fun asf run playing Jianzhou > Manchu > Qing. Hngggg this game has captivated me for years and i will never ever stop. Actual map game brain poison.
I've always been something of a geography nerd, so getting into Paradox games just cemented an existing fascination for me. I love the map of CK3 best, it strikes just the right balance between the aesthetic, the scale and the detailing (plus the special buildings look great!). The HOI4 map is ok, but very utilitarian. Vic 3 has a pretty map, but it gets bloated with how all the cities and industries grow to a ridiculous scale over time. And while the map of EU4 is decent, these days it is really showing it's age. Funnily enough, Imperator Rome had quite a good visual balance too, but any hope of that game getting any more love now is slim at best.
The whole map colouring is why I love stacking culture and religion conversion buffs in Imperator. Especially culture, since it is hard enough to change that the slow change feels satisfying
Cool video. Indeed grand strategy is intoxicating, im an epidemiologist and thanks to this games i had a little edge over my classmates. I love spatial epidemiology. To be able to use maps in real life to track disease and healthcare is so much fun. I feel in a war against infections 😁
As someone who has had contact with Paradox games since the age of 4 (it was EU2 in 2004), I can confirm that funny colouring map simulators make one go geography and history enthusiast route (and weird side-eyes from primary school teacher when I was able to say every European capital at age of 8)
Since i was a kid I always liled history I was lucky i was born in Iran,one of the oldest lands, if not the oldest, to ever exist and i always read history books and looked at the maps and wandered how a man had an ambition so huge? I wish I was a historian because i really like to question a lot of things that we take for granted. But I guess someone sneezed and I turned out to be a businessman...
i started playing stratiegies around 10yo on my father computer, i always loved maps, when i was 8 i could name every country on the world and every flag without problem, now im playing HOI 4 and some other strategies, i just love the colors on the map for no reason
One of my favourite pastimes as a kid was looking through my parents' world atlas. Then I could look up any strange place I found in their encyclopaedia. I spent many hours on the floor, looking through and reading both. If today, I guess I would be the kid that spend his time wiki-diving :D
Thank you, I made them myself! The map for Vicky 3 is Revenge of the Political Map Mode, and the CK3 one is Andy's Ultimate Map Immersion, but sadly it's not 100% compatible with the new map table :(
funny story, I was once really active on alternate history forums, and I would always deliberately color in my nations on maps with "wrong" colors, to make it clear its an 'alternate universe'; grey UK, dark Purple portugal, green spain, pink US, dark red france, blue austria, orange prussia, yellow ottomans, white Russia, black egypt, etc, and oh boy is it true, people do have real issues with it...
Playing with my family Risk and Stratego was probably my first encounter with strategy games as well as watching my dad play Empire Earth (my first Let's Play I ever watched and it was live XD) and then I plaed it myself and started playing Battle for Middleearth and TW Rome
Ive played Eu4 so much that a red ottoman is strange to me. I still dont know what historical significance green has for the ottomans besides Islam. Ottomans are historically red.
For the extend...you also makes me more appreciate to the colour of the map...your mod made me think to " if i want to play X...i must enabled this mod...". Definitely awesome work...
I think it's primarily a matter of relwvence. In school, maps of countries don't really matter in day to day life, so it's forgettable, but when playing a game like paradox games, where things are on the map and different countries become extremely relevant, and of course there is also the memories and nostalgia of campaigns and stuff, so the result is what's basically constant studying of maps, until it becomes memorized. In other words, Paradox tricked us into studying geography and history even, by making it fun and relevant.
I like the paradox games (unless they break my mods) and there are a lot of potential and history behind them. Recently bought the Imperator and it is nice to see how many cultures emerged, travelled, assimilated into other cultures. Colours however less affecting me because it just shows which is in my realm but I usually playing the smallest countries to achieve things. If you like strategy games indeed may I suggest you to try Superpower 2 (the third game was a big flop). Another one would be geopolitical simulator but that game have different aspect of strategy. Not to mention Galactic civilization series or Distant Worlds which is also a good candidate for colour die hards. I liked maps long before I got into any strategy game so for me this is just an addition.
For me first time where I turned to map strategy game was in the ancient time when first Civilization came out. It was just squares moving on maps but man was it a good thing back then with real life leaders, city names, turns and technology.
This is basically how my journey went as well, started with C&C, StarCraft, WarCraft, Age of Empires 1/2 and then I got my hands on Medieval Total War and that blew my mind! From then on I deep dived into Total War and eventually discovered EU4 later on and the rest of the Paradox games like Stellaris since I love the Sci-Empire building as well.
Tbh I’ve always loved maps even as a young child , I never paid attention to the ones in school but it was the globe, big maps and book of different at home , also I loved history and art , so when I found paradox games it’s combined 3 interests together no matter the paradox game
Been addicted to Stellaris. Even though it is a galaxy map and not an Earth map, there is still aomething so addicting about watching your empire borders grow as you colonize new foreign planets and meet other races building their own stories.
I used to draw the map of the Mongol Conquest portion of the NES game Genghis Khan and color it in how I planned to conquer it when I saved up and rented it.
Russia - green Japan - white ROC - yellow India - orange Portugal - dark green Brazil - dark green Tunisia - bleak red Egypt - yellow Saudis - dark green Romania - yellow/blue Sweden - blue Finland - white I could go forever, but seeing not white Japan is blasphemy and burns my eyes.
when i was a kid, that map was the best part of the classroom, spent hours staring at it. Globes was a rarity, but finding them was amazing. this was before i had any games that used the world maps, its the reason why i gravitated to paradox games in college.
On a related note I just realized I really like the soft borders of say CK3 over V3. Makes it look like lands are being slowly absorbed and converted naturally by their surrounding influences. Strong vassals means I can just sit back and watch as the territory expands. I'm just there to make sure no one tries to stand in the way of this progression. 😊 Including the vassals of course..
Paradox Games are fairly educational in a sense and were useful for me in Highschool. I know cities in France (which I didn´t before) or historical events I never heard before as well.
Stellaris player, I do enjoy painting the map in my color, you got that right. Man, though, does it annoy me when I go galactic empire and all my (and my subjects') turf turns irrevocably red. I picked blue, devs. BLUE!!!
after playing ck2 I started loving maps, and it just shows me that my geography teachers didn’t make a good job of making me love maps and even gazing at them.
Gotta way one of the more interesting moments is playing out of Europe in eu4 and discovering it like a 100 years from the start and seeing some wonky situations
The brainwashing has a downside (who would have thought): Thanks to CK for example, we imagine medieval rulers as controling clearly defined territories with borders when really borders, aside from natural ones, weren't really a thing until decently modern times. A medieval lord rules over people, buildings, towns, castles and where those are defines where the realm is, not like modern states which are defined by their territorial borders. One village belongs to this lord, another to the next lord, but there is no line in between usually where you cross from one realm to another. I'm not bashing the game here, it makes sense from a design standpoint, but it reinforces in us the wrong sentiment that borders like we know today have always been a thing.
The infection started with my friend that got me to get hoi4 but it didnt stick. Then i got eu4 and got addicted AF and then i got back into HOI4, then CK3 then VIC3 and the addiction got boosted by DLCs like lion of the north for eu4 and then the price of the other EU4 dlcs killed the addiction. Im still highly addicted to VIC3, CK3 and Kaiserreich
Lots of people are asking for the CK3 map mod, it's a making of partly my own creation, find it here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3103516555
bro wtf was that vtuber in the middle of the video, literal fricking jumpscare
bro you are the only one to put into words a feeling that I have had for YEARS I thought I was the only one who thought like this and had these weird fantasy power trips.
No need to blasphemy! 0:50
And a Vicky mod is?
Diplomacy map ~exists~
my teacher literally praised me for my extensive map knowledge, all thanks to PDX map color brainwash.
Yeees!
Me too, my college geography teacher ended up forbidding me from answering geography questions first to give others a chance to be right
extensive map knowledge being knowing the location of russia on a map
@@kzizzles8329 geography is mostly about the physical region, not political, although political interests stem from the properties of the land, it mostly isnt sufficient enough
@@josephleebob3828 It was a political science class so it was mostly focused on the political region, however, PDX games did teach me the names of a lot of regions as well such as islands and other geographical features
I am so brainwashed, that imagining not grey Prussia, pink Poland, purple Byzantines is frightening.
Green Italy, dark blue France, maroon UK, cyan USA, black Germany, white Austria, yellow Spain, I could go on forever.
I need my blue Sweden or I will explode.
@@michaelchance6125 I mean with stuff like Britain you have the redcoats and the blue uniforms the French always used so it makes sense to represent the countries with those colours
Red Turkey feels wrong
@@YataTheFifteenth this has some sense(kemalist thing) although creamy one is better, but red Ottomans are cursed af
I was the unlucky one that was trying to drink water the moment yellow Prussia appeared on screen..
NOOOO
Same
i once had a 1000 piece puzzle that i found which had many countries in very very weird colors on it. I physically recoiled at it.
Y'know maybe the great kings of history weren't greedy for power or land, they just wanted to paint the map
But taking territory was cheaper than actual colour paint, damn I think we figured out why wars happened
Alexander and Genghis were just avid fans of one color paintings.😞
The primal human desire to make your color on the map larger cannot be overcome.
I mean, a certain artist in Germany got rejected from art school. He just found another way to paint.
I think it's amusing how specifically Paradox has ingrained in my head what colors certain nations are. England/Britain MUST be red. France MUST be blue. Spain MUST be yellow, and so on.
Yes! Same lol, on a typical classroom world map all the countries are some variation of blue-green-even pink I feel, but not Paradox, and they’re the only one who’s right!
For some reason, the uk has to be purple for me, and I don't know why.
@@AndysParadoxour maps in Brazil always represent the country in green. Paradox is right about that.
I'm wondering to what degree those colors draw from the time around Napoleon and the respective armies' uniforms. Redcoats, bluecoats, greencoats...
@@Nimai_AquinoWell your flag is mostly green so it makes sense.
I already can't wait for eu5 starting in 1337 with the new borders in europe!
SAME! Man I cannot WAIT to see the full EU5 map in all its glory, honestly the campaign map is the thing I'm the most excited for in a new grand strategy game
Mega Campaigns are going to be even more flavorful.
I'm sorry but project Caesar is *totally* *definitely* *100%* not eu5
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PDX games are the only reason I associate nations with colors. France has a red white and blue flag, but if you color them red on a map it makes me want to die. And Russia doesn't even have green in its flag, but i'll have a brain aneurism if you color them anything but green.
Haha no 100%!
I can get it if Russia is communist though, but that goes for most communist nations, I always see them as a slightly darker/more reddish color
For me, Russian Empire green, soviet red, modern blue
Green is a traditional Russian military colour. They used it in their military uniforms since the military reforms of Czar Peter the Great, through the 18th and 19th centuries and up to and including the First World War. Imagine being Charles XII of Sweden and seeing a giant blob of green moving along the steppe near Poltava
same
There is something that appeals to my ooga booga caveman brain whenever I play EU4 and I paint the map in that Byzantine Red
*purple
@@myoko-gb3ez *Square
It's all fun and games until you try to find Prussia or Siam on a modern day map
the people in charge of the UN don't appreciate the old lore -_-
so Germany and Thailand?
I keep forgetting the Czech Republic is not called Bohemia and hasn’t been for almost a hundred years
@@TheCloud-z8hkeep forgetting Czechoslovakia isn’t a thing anymore
@@TheCloud-z8hI told a girl I was flirting with that I do knew the story of "the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia"
Went better than you might think lol
bro is not beating mapophile allegations
bro welcomes them
We should lower the age of consent to 1444
"Jokes on you, I'm into that shit!"
Dude wants to paint the map white
@@AndysParadoxbro is bro 💀
I have always loved maps, even as kid. I legit would spent time browsing atlas every week end
Love that!
lol same
Same here
Agreed
same here. spent so much time looking at maps as kid
Parsdox games did really condition us into staring at maps for hours
Speak for yourselves, I was a mapophile before them, it was love at first sight
@@vroomkaboom108 same, all started at least for me, when i get one earth globe that talk and when you touch a country on the globe, say the name, information, demographics, climate etc
at the same time i play whit magnetix and build all sort of things since childhood
@@fabianustertius6460 Oh nice I had a globe too, but was a paper covered, plastic miniature globe that didn't do anything lmao. Was obsessed with it for months
@@vroomkaboom108 It's called cartophilia and it's a known orientation, so please respect my pronouns.
I started my journey thinking Scotland was on the continent, underestimating Russia's size, thinking they must be somewhere right of where Belarus is because of the pretty fields and forests.
Today, my map knowledge is the admiration of my teachers...
My friend you truely had humble beginning
One thing I kinda find amusing about Paradox is the sheer lengths they went through to represent every major Islamic nation and Empire in a shade of Green. For those that don't know Muslims historically represented themselves with mostly Green and it is a colour most closely associated with Islam, even today with flags of countries. This is why I personally don't like the Red Ottomans or the Blueish colour the Persians have in CK3, since now I'm so used to the Green.
It's all depends on what is their origin. Persians have had a different religion before islamisation and they do not see themselves arabic (they don't). Also Turks are different kind of people and they are belong to the asian / siberian steppes and they adopted the islam. Their indentity is different.
To be honest, Seljuks dont give the vibe other islam countries give, also their flag is blue, thus blue
I actually think of the Persians as orange due to vicky, red and green ottomans are fine by me. Egypt is peach due to vicky as well.
I'm pretty sure Libya once had a flag that was literally just green
@@Ozan-qr7huBlue and green are basically the same colour anyway
Crusader Kings 2 is my first "Grand Strategy" and it's what made me so fascinated by history. When I first started playing I kept hearing about how the "Byzantine Empire" was a meme and didn't even know what the god damn hell that Empire was, but now I restore the true Empire and weep at videos of it's former glory. To this day whenever I want to play somewhere new I look up it's history especially if the character to play is historical and I can immerse myself in the rich stories it produces and smile gleefully for a brief time to become those people and destroy their enemies.
Yes! For me to it’s so important to know who you’re playing as to feel immersed. It’s why I feel a connection to the European or middle eastern factions more than anywhere else, which tells you I need to educate myself more on the characters and factions I haven’t played as much yet!
i love the imperator rome map-coloring, how they combined diplomatic border colours with a natural map, and depending on your scroll level you shift from one to the other. :)
yeah it's a cool trick!
@@AndysParadox combines best of both worlds... zooming out, diplo colour is everything. But zooming in, landscape is better then one color covering the entire screen.
I think that's one thing CA could learn from PDX. I don't like how since Attila, color has taken a back seat in their historical TW games. In Rome TW Barbarian Invasion, the Saxons were a vibrant orange while the WRE was a vibrant red. Everything is so washed out in Attila and while I think its still a great game, I just don't get the same sense of painting the map
For sure! Later CA games actually have a political-kind of map where the terrain is painted in high-contrast colours, but it's not really made to be played on but is mostly for strategic clarity every now and then
It’s gotten to the point that I’m actually disappointed when I mention a country and people don’t even know what I’m talking about. In my junior year of high school, a girl actually stopped and asked the teacher if Mexico was a part of the USA. I couldn’t hide the disdain from my face
Lmao, I literally have a superiority complex every time I have geo complex. Had an exam where I needed to specify which nation was the founder of some organisation in 1970'or sum. It was specified to draw the nation, I drawn it to perfection. But my teacher though I was wrong because of the atrocious guess of my classmates
I mean with the illegal immigration it might as well be.
I always was obsessed with maps, I got in trouble for always going near the globe.
Ayo?🤨
cartophile to another level I see
Same. I would trace the edges of the nations to create new countries and worldbuild in class.
For me, reading maps was how I learned to read. I was really little i started reading maps. So, paradox games combine my love of maps, history, and gaming.
Love it!
I remember just watching my father play EU4 when I was 5 and then I started playing and I didn't even know to count to 11 on english I just saw some things he did to build armies start wars and few others and start wars
holy shit... so that makes you like... 17 ish?
@@AndysParadox yeah
Bro learned to start wars before learning to count. Bro is a born a warlord
@@sygnomi8312 Timur return!
Before discovering Grand Stategy as a kid I had way of playing by drawing map and then redrawing it with lore of why something changed. Great times
I used to run a section of military analysts. One of my standard lessons was that if you let it, the map will teach you something.
Italy map is absolutely sexy
So that's why I like maps.
Damn, I never even noticed. I totally get a dopamine hit when I stare at a good map. Even made some myself, from simulated plate tectonics to weather patterns to civilisations and cultural barriers based on the previous two. I'm clearly waaay too far-gone.
Haha! Well, this is my experience anyway, but I’m glad I’m not alone!
did.... did he just explain all of our feelings about maps perfectly?
0:15 I in fact, kept getting distracted by the map in my classroom, I’ve always enjoyed maps, city planning, battle planning, and logistics (since before pre school)
I was introduced to age of empires, simcity, Red Alert 2, Civ 4, Lord of the rings, and Attack of the Clones, at a very young age. A little later though, I got into Rome Total War, I also played Empire Earth 3 and while it was bad, I really liked the idea of a EE or AoE like game with a global conquest mode.
(And Empire at War came out around the time I was in late elementary school. Side note, it also got me into Star Wars Galaxies a few years later, before I could figure out how to even play an MMO. I didn’t even know what an MMO was at the time)
I have been a strategist, siege engineer, and civil engineer, All my life. I also love designing space warships, so I’m also a Space Engineer. lol
Imperator: Rome has got the best looking map in all Paradox games
I’d be inclined to agree!
Imperator: Rome? Really?
I would say Crusader Kings 3 has the best maps of all time. I can taste the texture..
6:23 the shade he threw at the british is unreal
Someone had to say it
I loved map painting in grand theft Auto san Andres and loved conquest of the whole map with glitches.
When i played empire total war i was elated.
Then i tried CK2, and i wa hooked.
eu4, Victoria 2, and ck3 made me deeper in the rabbit hole.
Except the struggle screens in CK3, the start info and the end covers the whole map, and leaves nothing to be admired, " You've unified Hispania! " with no Hispania in sight, because the pop up covered it.
At this point I wonder if I’m the only pdx gamer who liked maps before grand strategy games?
Probably not!
I was obsessed with maps after age 4, its when I got my first global geography book. It had details of every country at the time and a map of them. I read that book through far too many times. In school geography was effortlessly easy to me and everyone always asked me for help in that subject. I only found Paradox games at age 17, and that was HOI4 when it had its first DLC. Sometimes I wonder if I should have studied geography in university, but Im happy to be chemical engineer as well.
I was into maps for a long time i only recently started playing hoi4
I have definitely felt this. This has helped me visualize history.
Exactly, me too!
The editing was hilarious in this one, fantastic video!
Thank you so much, Mr Punggles, I had a lot of fun with this one!
Genuinely almost came when i recreated the borders of the Carolingian empire as Burgundy > Lotharingia in eu4. Every time i unify Italy, or recreate late 19th century - early 20th century Balkan borders. Giving Greece control of the Aegean coast, or playing tall as the Netherlands, united Nusantara and defending the archipelago from colonisers, uniting India and staring at a finally cleann religious mapmode. Perfect Persian borders, getting clean Chinese borders after a fun asf run playing Jianzhou > Manchu > Qing. Hngggg this game has captivated me for years and i will never ever stop. Actual map game brain poison.
hahaha! map game brain rot
C&C Generals mentioned. Instant like for childhood classic!
One of the greats!
Sometimes the UA-cam algorithm gets it right. Great content. Though-provoking. Good luck growing your channel.
Thank you so much, David!
Subbed immediately after you namedropped the 3 most defining strategy games of my childhood in the first minute.
Get Tony to sub speedrun world record!
I've always been something of a geography nerd, so getting into Paradox games just cemented an existing fascination for me.
I love the map of CK3 best, it strikes just the right balance between the aesthetic, the scale and the detailing (plus the special buildings look great!). The HOI4 map is ok, but very utilitarian. Vic 3 has a pretty map, but it gets bloated with how all the cities and industries grow to a ridiculous scale over time. And while the map of EU4 is decent, these days it is really showing it's age.
Funnily enough, Imperator Rome had quite a good visual balance too, but any hope of that game getting any more love now is slim at best.
Bro, I haven’t heard such amount of yapping for a long time, but agree on every word.
The whole map colouring is why I love stacking culture and religion conversion buffs in Imperator. Especially culture, since it is hard enough to change that the slow change feels satisfying
Maps always turned me on long before I played strategy games. I've loved maps since I was like 5 or something, maybe younger.
Keep up the good work man. Really good editing.
Thank you so much, warms my heart!
Cool video.
Indeed grand strategy is intoxicating, im an epidemiologist and thanks to this games i had a little edge over my classmates. I love spatial epidemiology. To be able to use maps in real life to track disease and healthcare is so much fun. I feel in a war against infections 😁
It's so true, when I was playing Total War I was clicking Tab all the time just to see color lol
Haha yeah!
As someone who has had contact with Paradox games since the age of 4 (it was EU2 in 2004), I can confirm that funny colouring map simulators make one go geography and history enthusiast route (and weird side-eyes from primary school teacher when I was able to say every European capital at age of 8)
Since i was a kid I always liled history
I was lucky i was born in Iran,one of the oldest lands, if not the oldest, to ever exist and i always read history books and looked at the maps and wandered how a man had an ambition so huge? I wish I was a historian because i really like to question a lot of things that we take for granted. But I guess someone sneezed and I turned out to be a businessman...
Young me thinking that COD and battlefield are real men’s games. Older me getting that dopamine hit seeing my map color expand.
real
i started playing stratiegies around 10yo on my father computer, i always loved maps, when i was 8 i could name every country on the world and every flag without problem, now im playing HOI 4 and some other strategies, i just love the colors on the map for no reason
One of my favourite pastimes as a kid was looking through my parents' world atlas. Then I could look up any strange place I found in their encyclopaedia. I spent many hours on the floor, looking through and reading both. If today, I guess I would be the kid that spend his time wiki-diving :D
What map mod do you use for CK3 and VIC3? They look absolutely addictive!
Thank you, I made them myself! The map for Vicky 3 is Revenge of the Political Map Mode, and the CK3 one is Andy's Ultimate Map Immersion, but sadly it's not 100% compatible with the new map table :(
funny story, I was once really active on alternate history forums, and I would always deliberately color in my nations on maps with "wrong" colors, to make it clear its an 'alternate universe'; grey UK, dark Purple portugal, green spain, pink US, dark red france, blue austria, orange prussia, yellow ottomans, white Russia, black egypt, etc, and oh boy is it true, people do have real issues with it...
Playing with my family Risk and Stratego was probably my first encounter with strategy games as well as watching my dad play Empire Earth (my first Let's Play I ever watched and it was live XD) and then I plaed it myself and started playing Battle for Middleearth and TW Rome
this is why I never understood why people throw stellaris at the end of megacampaigns, like where the pretty map, the nation I built all this time???
I remember having the time of my life with maps as a kid, be they in school books or atlases, etc. No onder I became a pdx junkie
Ive played Eu4 so much that a red ottoman is strange to me. I still dont know what historical significance green has for the ottomans besides Islam. Ottomans are historically red.
It's 4:22am. I'm watching a video about maps in paradox games. God help me
For the extend...you also makes me more appreciate to the colour of the map...your mod made me think to " if i want to play X...i must enabled this mod...". Definitely awesome work...
I think it's primarily a matter of relwvence. In school, maps of countries don't really matter in day to day life, so it's forgettable, but when playing a game like paradox games, where things are on the map and different countries become extremely relevant, and of course there is also the memories and nostalgia of campaigns and stuff, so the result is what's basically constant studying of maps, until it becomes memorized.
In other words, Paradox tricked us into studying geography and history even, by making it fun and relevant.
0:49 thats fuck*ng Obi-wan Kenobi
I like the paradox games (unless they break my mods) and there are a lot of potential and history behind them. Recently bought the Imperator and it is nice to see how many cultures emerged, travelled, assimilated into other cultures. Colours however less affecting me because it just shows which is in my realm but I usually playing the smallest countries to achieve things. If you like strategy games indeed may I suggest you to try Superpower 2 (the third game was a big flop). Another one would be geopolitical simulator but that game have different aspect of strategy. Not to mention Galactic civilization series or Distant Worlds which is also a good candidate for colour die hards.
I liked maps long before I got into any strategy game so for me this is just an addition.
from which game is the footage @2:45? its beautiful, could it be from Attila?
I think that's Rome 2 Total War map.
Indeed it’s Rome 2!
5:15 CK3 royal court
For me first time where I turned to map strategy game was in the ancient time when first Civilization came out. It was just squares moving on maps but man was it a good thing back then with real life leaders, city names, turns and technology.
This is basically how my journey went as well, started with C&C, StarCraft, WarCraft, Age of Empires 1/2 and then I got my hands on Medieval Total War and that blew my mind! From then on I deep dived into Total War and eventually discovered EU4 later on and the rest of the Paradox games like Stellaris since I love the Sci-Empire building as well.
Tbh I’ve always loved maps even as a young child , I never paid attention to the ones in school but it was the globe, big maps and book of different at home , also I loved history and art , so when I found paradox games it’s combined 3 interests together no matter the paradox game
Been addicted to Stellaris. Even though it is a galaxy map and not an Earth map, there is still aomething so addicting about watching your empire borders grow as you colonize new foreign planets and meet other races building their own stories.
I used to draw the map of the Mongol Conquest portion of the NES game Genghis Khan and color it in how I planned to conquer it when I saved up and rented it.
What's the song we can hear back around 0:50 ? I forgot the name.
So I guess I discovered the fun of colouring territories during the Windows 95 era in Romance of the Three Kingdoms II.
France - dark blue
Geemany - Black
UK - Maroon
USA - cyan
...
Spain - yellow
Russia - green
Japan - white
ROC - yellow
India - orange
Portugal - dark green
Brazil - dark green
Tunisia - bleak red
Egypt - yellow
Saudis - dark green
Romania - yellow/blue
Sweden - blue
Finland - white
I could go forever, but seeing not white Japan is blasphemy and burns my eyes.
@@kacperixplayer Or Red of Russia since it can also be USSR
@@nicolasiiiletzar7984 that is true
I played Vicky 2 as my first grand strategy game, and knew smth was wrong when prussia was yellow
when i was a kid, that map was the best part of the classroom, spent hours staring at it. Globes was a rarity, but finding them was amazing. this was before i had any games that used the world maps, its the reason why i gravitated to paradox games in college.
I've always loved maps🤷♀️ I would stare at atlases for hours while in elementary, but I was weird lol
a woman paradox player? theres no way.
@@Romanmonkey182 lol there's a few more of us than you may think
omg where??@@shaynalynn8666
Love to hear it! What drew you towards them?
On a related note I just realized I really like the soft borders of say CK3 over V3. Makes it look like lands are being slowly absorbed and converted naturally by their surrounding influences. Strong vassals means I can just sit back and watch as the territory expands. I'm just there to make sure no one tries to stand in the way of this progression. 😊 Including the vassals of course..
Bordergore: The reason any strategist gamer wants to puke.
I only recently got into paradox but ive always been into maps
You are the type of paradox youtuber I was looking for. Never stop!!!
What is that CK3 map mod? It looks gorgeous
My own map mod which you can get right here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3103516555
@@AndysParadox thanks a bunch! Amazing work
YES, since 2020 when i was a wee 12 year old boy watching hoi4 and picking up ck2 for free I have been ADDICTED, this is so true
Oh boy 👴
What map mod are you using in CK3 for sea?
believe I'm using my own map mod here, but sadly it's not fully compatible with the map table
@@AndysParadox - Thank you. I will try it myself :)
Paradox Games are fairly educational in a sense and were useful for me in Highschool. I know cities in France (which I didn´t before) or historical events I never heard before as well.
I loved maps since 8 years old. My autistic mind got fascinated by it
I am so brainwashed I fucking start to study cartography in university
Stellaris player, I do enjoy painting the map in my color, you got that right. Man, though, does it annoy me when I go galactic empire and all my (and my subjects') turf turns irrevocably red. I picked blue, devs. BLUE!!!
EGYPT BEING ANOTHER COLOUR THAN YELLOW?!?!?!? DBDOFUNVOEAIHLDSEANKDSASBAAUAUAAISDOUAUHUDUISD
this is a beautiful video and pretty much captures 99% of the thoughts ive had over the past year. kudos
after playing ck2 I started loving maps, and it just shows me that my geography teachers didn’t make a good job of making me love maps and even gazing at them.
Dude empire at war and rome total war was my favorites as a teenager
It's like being the general or ruler on top of a map planning how you will gain the enemy's territories...
0:24 how dare you? I would spend entire classes just looking at those maps, forgetting about the actual class ^^
Which game is it at 5:52?
Was literally vaping as you dropped the nicotine metaphor dog I feel called out
Gotta way one of the more interesting moments is playing out of Europe in eu4 and discovering it like a 100 years from the start and seeing some wonky situations
What song is that, and why does it sound like Mr. Krabs is singing it?
am i the only one who always loved maps? Long before paradox
The brainwashing has a downside (who would have thought): Thanks to CK for example, we imagine medieval rulers as controling clearly defined territories with borders when really borders, aside from natural ones, weren't really a thing until decently modern times. A medieval lord rules over people, buildings, towns, castles and where those are defines where the realm is, not like modern states which are defined by their territorial borders. One village belongs to this lord, another to the next lord, but there is no line in between usually where you cross from one realm to another.
I'm not bashing the game here, it makes sense from a design standpoint, but it reinforces in us the wrong sentiment that borders like we know today have always been a thing.
Yeaaah, he is beyond saving.
The infection started with my friend that got me to get hoi4 but it didnt stick. Then i got eu4 and got addicted AF and then i got back into HOI4, then CK3 then VIC3 and the addiction got boosted by DLCs like lion of the north for eu4 and then the price of the other EU4 dlcs killed the addiction.
Im still highly addicted to VIC3, CK3 and Kaiserreich