Thanks Dan, it was helpful as I am about to look for a 9015 machine and I will query the type of hold down setup used on whichever one I purchase. Alan
Hi, Just watched your video, How's the Blue Elephant going are you still pleased you bought it, Has it been reliable, How has the back up been and spare parts availability? Thanks
Thanks Dan, That did help ease my mind a bit. I have read some horror stories online about these Chinese machines. I know its not going to be perfect but for the price it looks well put together. As far as that vacuum pump goes you might be able to extend that exhaust outlet with some piping or hose to exhaust those Diesel fumes. Or possibly put it outside if thats an exterior wall and build a small enclosure for it. The vacuum pump they are trying to sell me looks different and doesnt look like it requires water However I, am in the states on single phase power so I know they mentioned I needed 2 smaller pumps opposed to their standard setup to work on single phase. Either way I have a shed right where mine would go so I will plan on just popping a hole through and putting it in the shed. Originally I was planning on that for noise reasons but now I see there could be other benefits. One question why 18mm spoil board ? wouldn't a 6mm or 12mm transfer more vacuum to the part? Or does it not stay flat enough? It has always amazed me that these machines can draw enough vacuum through a sheet of 18mm mdf and still clamp parts down.
Yeah I think they are pretty good for the price, considering the next price break for a European made machine would be around 4-5 times the price! I did think about trying to duct the outlet to outside, it is a run of at least 10m either direction though through some other rooms so not that straight forwards. This is the type of pump I was considering upgrading to: www.alibaba.com/product-detail/200m3-h-Value-Vacuum-Pump-Oil_62314075641.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.0.0.7bf329afHQEix9 I'm not sure what your options are for single phase, perhaps there are less options, my pump is around 7kW three phase so quite hefty! I've used 6mm spoil boards before now but don't see any noticeable difference in the hold down from thicker ones. If you have an 18mm one then you can skim it off several times before it needs replacing, thinner board will also tend to peel up around the edges once they have been cut/faced a few times. The vacuum is pretty impressive when it's properly set up, you can't move a sheet of ply even getting your whole body weight behind it and pushing!
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding That link you sent looks similar to what they sent me. For my single phase set up I need two smaller units opposed to one big one. You might want to reach out to BE they quoted me 850 for the double single stage vacuum set up. Not sure what they offer for 3 phase. Maybe its time to also upgrade to that ATC machine you wanted while your at it ;)
Just checking back with you to say thanks again. I just got word from BE today that my machine is completed. I ended up with the the same machine but upgraded to 4.5kw spindle, HD linear bearings, pop up pins, cooling mister, and all servo motors. Crossing my fingers it arrives and works as well as yours. Did they supply you with the vacuum table gasket? I will need to get some. Thanks again.
@@afbigfish1 Hi there, I hope you dont find this rude of me, my name is Michael, I have just started speaking with Tom at BE. The specs of your machine is the same as my requirements. Can I ask the price you paid excluding delivery?
HI Mate, thanks for video. I cant get my head around the vacuum table - from what i can work out if you are using the vacuum table you cant cut right through? so if you want to cut something right out of a sheet how do you hold it to the table?
Yes you can cut right through parts with the vacuum table, in fact one of the main benefits is that you can cut out a complete part whilst it is still held in place. The vacuum pulls right through the MDF sheet (spoil board) and you cut into this, usually by around 0.5mm when cutting out your parts. When it becomes worn you just run a program to mill off the spoil board to flat again. Have a look at this video where I am through cutting some parts on the vacuum: ua-cam.com/video/4Jg0CYUcIy8/v-deo.html
Good video mate! You said you got yours through a UK importer? Could you provide a link to them? I guess I'd save some cash buying direct, but having a middle-man in the UK might be worth it should it come to maintenance and spare parts.
Thanks! I bought my machine through a company called CEAMAX but I think they are no longer trading. Have a look at www.ckjcnc.co.uk though, they are not far from me, nice guys and I've bought spares from them for my machine.
That is very intresting that you found an agent that would benefit so many customers.
Thanks Dan, it was helpful as I am about to look for a 9015 machine and I will query the type of hold down setup used on whichever one
I purchase. Alan
Did any of you buy from the Blue Elephant Company? Please tell me how this went with you, and what is the company’s number. I’m afraid of fraud.
Hi Dan
Thankyou ! Well demonstrated .
Could you pla be able provide some trainings on how to use this machine?
Hi,
Just watched your video,
How's the Blue Elephant going are you still pleased you bought it,
Has it been reliable,
How has the back up been and spare parts availability?
Thanks
It’s still going strong, I’ve actually not needed any spares or support so far so can’t comment on that.
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding
Thanks Dan,
That's good to know,
I pick your brains further if we decide to get this brand .
Cheers
Thanks Dan, That did help ease my mind a bit. I have read some horror stories online about these Chinese machines. I know its not going to be perfect but for the price it looks well put together. As far as that vacuum pump goes you might be able to extend that exhaust outlet with some piping or hose to exhaust those Diesel fumes. Or possibly put it outside if thats an exterior wall and build a small enclosure for it. The vacuum pump they are trying to sell me looks different and doesnt look like it requires water However I, am in the states on single phase power so I know they mentioned I needed 2 smaller pumps opposed to their standard setup to work on single phase. Either way I have a shed right where mine would go so I will plan on just popping a hole through and putting it in the shed. Originally I was planning on that for noise reasons but now I see there could be other benefits. One question why 18mm spoil board ? wouldn't a 6mm or 12mm transfer more vacuum to the part? Or does it not stay flat enough? It has always amazed me that these machines can draw enough vacuum through a sheet of 18mm mdf and still clamp parts down.
Yeah I think they are pretty good for the price, considering the next price break for a European made machine would be around 4-5 times the price! I did think about trying to duct the outlet to outside, it is a run of at least 10m either direction though through some other rooms so not that straight forwards. This is the type of pump I was considering upgrading to: www.alibaba.com/product-detail/200m3-h-Value-Vacuum-Pump-Oil_62314075641.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.0.0.7bf329afHQEix9 I'm not sure what your options are for single phase, perhaps there are less options, my pump is around 7kW three phase so quite hefty! I've used 6mm spoil boards before now but don't see any noticeable difference in the hold down from thicker ones. If you have an 18mm one then you can skim it off several times before it needs replacing, thinner board will also tend to peel up around the edges once they have been cut/faced a few times. The vacuum is pretty impressive when it's properly set up, you can't move a sheet of ply even getting your whole body weight behind it and pushing!
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding That link you sent looks similar to what they sent me. For my single phase set up I need two smaller units opposed to one big one. You might want to reach out to BE they quoted me 850 for the double single stage vacuum set up. Not sure what they offer for 3 phase. Maybe its time to also upgrade to that ATC machine you wanted while your at it ;)
Just checking back with you to say thanks again. I just got word from BE today that my machine is completed. I ended up with the the same machine but upgraded to 4.5kw spindle, HD linear bearings, pop up pins, cooling mister, and all servo motors. Crossing my fingers it arrives and works as well as yours. Did they supply you with the vacuum table gasket? I will need to get some. Thanks again.
@@afbigfish1 Hi there, I hope you dont find this rude of me, my name is Michael, I have just started speaking with Tom at BE. The specs of your machine is the same as my requirements. Can I ask the price you paid excluding delivery?
And I wont tell Tom, email digimob@live.com
great video mate! thanks for sharing!
HI Mate, thanks for video. I cant get my head around the vacuum table - from what i can work out if you are using the vacuum table you cant cut right through? so if you want to cut something right out of a sheet how do you hold it to the table?
Yes you can cut right through parts with the vacuum table, in fact one of the main benefits is that you can cut out a complete part whilst it is still held in place. The vacuum pulls right through the MDF sheet (spoil board) and you cut into this, usually by around 0.5mm when cutting out your parts. When it becomes worn you just run a program to mill off the spoil board to flat again. Have a look at this video where I am through cutting some parts on the vacuum: ua-cam.com/video/4Jg0CYUcIy8/v-deo.html
Is your cut capacity slightly bigger then 8x4. Can you cut a 4'1"x8'1" sheet of melamine?
Yes, the machine will cut 1300x2500mm.
How much did you pay back then ?
Can you tell me, Mechine details, how much this Mechine
Good video mate! You said you got yours through a UK importer? Could you provide a link to them? I guess I'd save some cash buying direct, but having a middle-man in the UK might be worth it should it come to maintenance and spare parts.
Thanks! I bought my machine through a company called CEAMAX but I think they are no longer trading. Have a look at www.ckjcnc.co.uk though, they are not far from me, nice guys and I've bought spares from them for my machine.
Did any of you buy from the Blue Elephant Company? Please tell me how this went with you, and what is the company’s number. I’m afraid of fraud.
@@DanLeeBoatbuilding Hi Dan, Nice video!. What kind of parts you had to replace on this blue elephant?
@@zzunic the only part so far is a belt on the z axis.
It's been 2 year, how is it holding up?
Very well, still no issues. I've probably had the machine for about 5 years now.
Thanks Dan, :)
Any advice from someone on here for shipping this item to the US? Looks like a very functional machine...
Did you end up shipping one?
I'm try to buy one of this company looks legit but since they don't have a office in US I want to hear from someone is is real or is a scam
@@laurojuliancabrera3453 i ended up buying one from alibaba and it was pretty easy
Price
Could you tell me how much this machine cost pls
I paid around £12k through a UK agent and that included delivery, set up and training.
Did any of you buy from the Blue Elephant Company? Please tell me how this went with you, and what is the company’s number. I’m afraid of fraud.
Can u give an estimate on price, how much are your machine
Did any of you buy from the Blue Elephant Company? Please tell me how this went with you, and what is the company’s number. I’m afraid of fraud.
Very beautiful boht achy
Did any of you buy from the Blue Elephant Company? Please tell me how this went with you, and what is the company’s number. I’m afraid of fraud.
Yes I did get all ready but no servis after sale no answer phone no answer message 👎
budget CNC from scammers. Poor quality and disaster in service.
I haven't had any issues with my machine, I've been using it for probably 5 years now.