Nice documentary about cracking the Shakespeare Code's 7steps of Mercy Part 2. Excellent video editing and the narratives makes it more interesting to watch. Thanks for sharing.
Anyone else notice that the revelation of the masonic square and compass hidden in the 'To the Reader' intro happens precisely at 33 mins into the documentary... nice!
There is nobody trying to disprove it. Crumpton is an actor portraying a Shakespeare scholar. An actual Shakespeare scholar could have shut Amundsen down before he got started.
I have red that Earl of Southampton ( Neville) was behind all Master Will works, but being a high aristrocrat very close to the royalty ( Queen Elisabeth I), was forbidden for him to be a humble playwriter...Maybe that is why the name of Socrates appears at Shakespeare tomb. He said " I know nothing" ...That is why he was considered by his fellow greeks the most inteligent man of his time...Indeed, what we really know about this issue!?
So many interesting information about the real Will....Even so, it is very difficult to change the public mind ....Mistery is part of our life and we love misteries ...
@ducdejoyeuse 1 second ago Hahahaha we have to laugh, the only cypher is as Sir Francis Bacon says in Promus published 1883, " To win the game; Tick, tack, begin the game with Irish." So as the first play though written last, is The Tempest, the fist character is Miranda, in Irish Mir-Anfa, means, " Portion of the Storm," just as Francis himself says, Irish is the key to not only the Shake-Speare mystery, but the planets lost history.
Many people even famous have questioned this theory and have been shut down or killed. His family had nothing to do with the monument and the last pages of writing he "left behind" were of writing without penmanship or knowledge of geographic locations. The tie in his picture was absolutely never in style in that time or ever.
What Amundson is missing is that he needs to accept not only Bacon and Neville, but also Edward De Vere in this theory as well. Also, Stanley Wells seems the worst type of intellectual possible. The treasure map stuff is nonsense, likely focused on here in order to discredit the ideas somewhat. There is another interpretation of that Sonnet dedication page, well explicated by the grandson of Evelyn Waugh.
In this film,at around 16:42 minutes, In the center of the pentagon, it says; "DIDE WHOSE" OR MAYBE IT MEANT (WHO HAS DIED). IF THE DEATH DATE ON THE ETCHING IS WRONG (53) MAYBE THIS MEANS FRANCIS BACON DIED AT 53. MAYBE BACON IS THE ONE IN THE GRAVE WITH THE WRITINGS????
It's about to be discovered in Asher, Arkansas, the place where the real Jewish temple will be, like in Francis Bacons book, the new Jerusalem. I have the details and your constellations happen to fall on just that place, Asher, Ark, (tribe of Asher) in the summer nights...maybe a mid summer nights dream?
God is a code for the golden ratio found in the center of the triangle. The letters G.O.D. can be used to form a triangle. Letters are the " animated reality". So the D in God is the Delta triangle, the O is placed within the Delta, and the G is placed within the O. The G will now represent the Golden sprial. Wich is the foundation of all our universal patterns. I am = the golden ratio.
It’s a very interesting mystery. What they don’t really touch is Shakespeare’s, the actor’s, biography which is nearly empty of information. A poor son of a glove maker and what little known background which shows a pure lack of the education the man (or men) would have had to have to have written the plays. The actor would have had to speak many languages, more so, a deep understanding and ability to create English words that were no longer used, created new words and or definitions; a deep understanding of ancient and recent history/philosophy; a deep understanding of law; and have to have known the royal court’s intricacies. There is no such evidence. None. There are no manuscripts, books (no library) no personal letters, journals, a scrap of paper, nothing. Not a single thing. They also do not discuss how the plays changed significantly after his death. The first folio and second folio had major (over a thousand) changes from the first. Both folios were published after Shakespeare was dead. The second, after Bacon was dead. Of course the actor was not the author. It was a group of men likely included Bacon and others.
Shakespeare's father trained as a glover, but was one of the richest men in town during Shakespeare's youth, was the town mayor and justice of the peace for a time, and was responsible for hiring the Oxford-educated schoolmasters who ran the free immersion Latin school in Stratford. An actual poor boy named Richard Field who grew up with Shakespeare left Stratford to start an apprenticeship with a polyglot printer in London. Obviously it was possible to learn foreign languages in Stratford. As for the rest, you are egregiously overstating Shakespeare's knowledge. His fellow poets even called him undereducated.
ALSO, another thing, In Greek Mythology, a swan or the god Zeus, comes down to impregnate a woman and afterwards he put the constellation in the sky of a swan. Was Zeus behind all of this, as he was know for his trickery?
The letter "I" was both I and J and only counted as one letter. V and U were also the same letter. A = 1 B = 2 C=3 D=4 E=5 F=6 G=7 H=8 I=9 K=10 L=11 M=12 N=13 O=14 P=15 Q=16 R=17
They should have clarified that then. The way it was presented in this video felt like they are using the current alphabet, with i and j as two separate letters.
Francis Bacon deserves his place in this documentary, not as the author though. He did however have a part to play. All by Ever the fourth T. says it all.
The paper / quicksilver bit was lost, or overlooked or forgotten! Where are the manuscripts?? What if the manuscripts are buried with Shake-spear..and is that not the treasure?!!!
I’d imagine scholarly minds of wealth and prestige had much time on their hands then.. and indeed met, wrote and decoded their ideals in to many aspects of their lives.. some incredibly undeniable finds in this series.
😆😆😆 EH NO!!!!! U CANT JUST MAKE PATTERNS " APPEAR " AND EVERYTHING HE'S LINED UP AND FOUND HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT!!!. EVEN TO THE FINE POINT OF ACTUALLY PIN POINTING WHERE THE ACTUAL BIG CURVED ROCKS ON THE ISLAND!!! EXACTLY WHERE HE SAID!!! AND YEAH!!! IN SOME THINGS IF U REALLY LOOK FOR THINGS THEN SOME THINGS CAN MAYBE APPEAR!!. BUT IN THIS CASE!! THERES JUST FAR TOO MUCH DETAILS THAT LINE UP PERFECTLY FOR IT JUST TO BE THEM HOPING FOR IT TO LINE UP!!!. 🤦🤦🤦
I tried so hard to suspend my disbelief throughout Part 1, but I regret to report I lost all confidence in this hoakum as soon as I saw our great Mark Rylance credited as 'Actor & Playwrite' (sic) at the opening of part 2.
Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare. Being a playwriter is a way of life. What Bacon has to do with the life of an actor, playwriter, who is acquainted with both the salon life and the gutter life? Come on. Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare.
@@sonjak8265 His older daughter was not illiterate and you have no evidence at all about the younger one. No poets mentioned manuscripts in their wills. Why do you think Shakespeare should have?
@@sonjak8265 And so should whoever wrote every other play of the era, but no poet mentions them. A will is a place to list special bequests made to people other than your heir, not to inventory everything one owns.
I have a prejudice against people deeply invested in scholarship. They lack self awareness and thus act in such unforgivable, pompous surety. Every intellectual theory should be tested in the boxing ring! If you come up with some new way of seeing things you must defend it in the ring. It shouldn't change the truth claims if the presenter loses but it would do these guys some great good to be knocked about a little bit. I think it would improve their manners immensely.🙉🙈🙊
Wells is certainly knowledgable about the written works but he does his own Statfordian case no help by being so groundlessly dismissive of ideas he doesn't hold.
@@Jeffhowardmeade I must admit I haven't read Bacon's book, though I've read five or six books on the subject, including one by Wells. There must be better Stratfordian books than his, I imagine, since that one convinced me more than some of the others that there was indeed a question.
@@matthewzuckerman6267 There's always doubt when dealing with history. Once you assume that everyone was lying, ALL you have is doubt. That's a useless position to take if you want answers. I assume by Wells' book you mean Shakespeare Beyond Doubt. Yes, I agree that wasn't well done. Shapiro's Contested Will was better but not by much. Neither of them are used to looking at Shakespeare from the perspective of proving him. Lucky them. Presenting the case for Shakespeare is easy once one knows what the typical objections are. Countering specific Anti-Stratfordian claims is harder, as the various camps and sub-groups keep coming up with new theories and even new anti-Shakespeares all the time. You have Occultists (mostly Baconians), Cypher-Hunters (mostly Oxfordians), and your garden variety tinfoil hat wearers who just know that the Powers That Be are hiding something. No amount of evidence will ever convince any of these that a guy from Stratford wrote the works of Shakespeare. They have seen the anomalies and know that they just MUST have been put there intentionally. As long as such people exist, hoaxes will continue. Anyway, if you want to know what's true and what's not, I've heard all of the theories (up to about five minutes ago -- there could be new ones) and I know all of the evidence. I'll be glad to share.
hat wells guy is in hard cope. doesnt know jack about the political atmosphere at the time. why would shakespeare sit back and get famous and rich for stuff he didnt do? hmm i wonder.
I'm all in favour of historical and biographical analysis, size of vocabulary etc re authorship, but the cryptology/codes aspect is all too DaVinci code for me to take seriously. A shakespearian rabbithole too far.
Nice documentary about cracking the Shakespeare Code's 7steps of Mercy Part 2. Excellent video editing and the narratives makes it more interesting to watch. Thanks for sharing.
Anyone else notice that the revelation of the masonic square and compass hidden in the 'To the Reader' intro happens precisely at 33 mins into the documentary... nice!
Gee, that was nice.
This is a very good documentary
This is a very accurate comment.
i really like the fact that there is someone trying to prove it and disprove it at the same time.
There is nobody trying to disprove it. Crumpton is an actor portraying a Shakespeare scholar. An actual Shakespeare scholar could have shut Amundsen down before he got started.
I just inherited the most enormous folios from 1870s and notes in the margins, I had no idea they were important until your video
This is amazing
I have red that Earl of Southampton ( Neville) was behind all Master Will works, but being a high aristrocrat very close to the royalty ( Queen Elisabeth I), was forbidden for him to be a humble playwriter...Maybe that is why the name of Socrates appears at Shakespeare tomb. He said " I know nothing" ...That is why he was considered by his fellow greeks the most inteligent man of his time...Indeed, what we really know about this issue!?
I used to think Henry Neville but now Im firmly Oxford/ 1:36 de Vere. Neville wasnt Earl of Southampton it was Henry Wroithesley.
So many interesting information about the real Will....Even so, it is very difficult to change the public mind ....Mistery is part of our life and we love misteries ...
@ducdejoyeuse
1 second ago
Hahahaha we have to laugh, the only cypher is as Sir Francis Bacon says in Promus published 1883, " To win the game; Tick, tack, begin the game with Irish." So as the first play though written last, is The Tempest, the fist character is Miranda, in Irish Mir-Anfa, means, " Portion of the Storm," just as Francis himself says, Irish is the key to not only the Shake-Speare mystery, but the planets lost history.
Tell us more - I’m listening
yes im listening too!
Great documentary 👍😁
I worked with Richard while emulating some Degas life poses at Manchester MU for the National Gallery Exhibition in the 90s. Absolute Gentleman!
Many people even famous have questioned this theory and have been shut down or killed.
His family had nothing to do with the monument and the last pages of writing he "left behind" were of writing without penmanship or knowledge of geographic locations. The tie in his picture was absolutely never in style in that time or ever.
What Amundson is missing is that he needs to accept not only Bacon and Neville, but also Edward De Vere in this theory as well.
Also, Stanley Wells seems the worst type of intellectual possible.
The treasure map stuff is nonsense, likely focused on here in order to discredit the ideas somewhat. There is another interpretation of that Sonnet dedication page, well explicated by the grandson of Evelyn Waugh.
In this film,at around 16:42 minutes, In the center of the pentagon, it says; "DIDE WHOSE" OR MAYBE IT MEANT (WHO HAS DIED). IF THE DEATH DATE ON THE ETCHING IS WRONG (53) MAYBE THIS MEANS FRANCIS BACON DIED AT 53. MAYBE BACON IS THE ONE IN THE GRAVE WITH THE WRITINGS????
Part 2 is mostly a repeat of part 1. I want new info... was the treasures found in the swamp. I was hoping to find out in this episode
It's about to be discovered in Asher, Arkansas, the place where the real Jewish temple will be, like in Francis Bacons book, the new Jerusalem. I have the details and your constellations happen to fall on just that place, Asher, Ark, (tribe of Asher) in the summer nights...maybe a mid summer nights dream?
God is a code for the golden ratio found in the center of the triangle. The letters G.O.D. can be used to form a triangle. Letters are the " animated reality". So the D in God is the Delta triangle, the O is placed within the Delta, and the G is placed within the O. The G will now represent the Golden sprial. Wich is the foundation of all our universal patterns. I am = the golden ratio.
He thinks... Therefore he am : ).
It’s a very interesting mystery. What they don’t really touch is Shakespeare’s, the actor’s, biography which is nearly empty of information. A poor son of a glove maker and what little known background which shows a pure lack of the education the man (or men) would have had to have to have written the plays. The actor would have had to speak many languages, more so, a deep understanding and ability to create English words that were no longer used, created new words and or definitions; a deep understanding of ancient and recent history/philosophy; a deep understanding of law; and have to have known the royal court’s intricacies.
There is no such evidence. None. There are no manuscripts, books (no library) no personal letters, journals, a scrap of paper, nothing. Not a single thing. They also do not discuss how the plays changed significantly after his death. The first folio and second folio had major (over a thousand) changes from the first. Both folios were published after Shakespeare was dead. The second, after Bacon was dead.
Of course the actor was not the author. It was a group of men likely included Bacon and others.
Shakespeare's father trained as a glover, but was one of the richest men in town during Shakespeare's youth, was the town mayor and justice of the peace for a time, and was responsible for hiring the Oxford-educated schoolmasters who ran the free immersion Latin school in Stratford. An actual poor boy named Richard Field who grew up with Shakespeare left Stratford to start an apprenticeship with a polyglot printer in London. Obviously it was possible to learn foreign languages in Stratford.
As for the rest, you are egregiously overstating Shakespeare's knowledge. His fellow poets even called him undereducated.
Stratford man was Jon Snow - he knew nothing.
@@sonofculloden2 And yet he was one of the few still standing after most of the other claimants died.
the memorial with the german words and bacon around it is the smoking gun to me
ALSO, another thing, In Greek Mythology, a swan or the god Zeus, comes down to impregnate a woman and afterwards he put the constellation in the sky of a swan. Was Zeus behind all of this, as he was know for his trickery?
"A classic is a book that has never finished saying what it has to say"
- Italo Calvino
Sometimes they start her count including the red (last) letter but it doesn't always work if you do that.
at 5:10 : when he finds N-E-VI-LL ~ VI=6 and LL = 100 -> 106, by the TwO places where TwO letters were used
I'm still stubborn but sure is interesting thanks
They keep saying r is the 17th letter. So they can decipher codes but not count?
Boom! Also, why RC=20?
The letter "I" was both I and J and only counted as one letter. V and U were also the same letter.
A = 1 B = 2 C=3 D=4 E=5 F=6 G=7 H=8 I=9 K=10 L=11 M=12 N=13 O=14 P=15 Q=16
R=17
They should have clarified that then. The way it was presented in this video felt like they are using the current alphabet, with i and j as two separate letters.
It's funny you are watching something telling you to seek and you shall find but you expect all info to be presented to you in a nice tight bow
Francis Bacon deserves his place in this documentary, not as the author though.
He did however have a part to play.
All by Ever the fourth T. says it all.
Can you please elaborate as I don't understand the connection to EdV..
14 books each worth £15 million. Its a miracle that they survived
Omg, Oak Island!
The paper / quicksilver bit was lost, or overlooked or forgotten! Where are the manuscripts?? What if the manuscripts are buried with Shake-spear..and is that not the treasure?!!!
These folks all spoke in code, back then and today. Can’t understand how the academics don’t see this… or maybe they don’t want to
Nobody can see what you are hallucinating.
Nothing but time on their hands, really think about it, patterns can & will be found if you make them appear.
I’d imagine scholarly minds of wealth and prestige had much time on their hands then.. and indeed met, wrote and decoded their ideals in to many aspects of their lives.. some incredibly undeniable finds in this series.
@@BillyRoganall this is important for the future of mankind like the St germain Trust
😆😆😆 EH NO!!!!! U CANT JUST MAKE PATTERNS " APPEAR " AND EVERYTHING HE'S LINED UP AND FOUND HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT!!!. EVEN TO THE FINE POINT OF ACTUALLY PIN POINTING WHERE THE ACTUAL BIG CURVED ROCKS ON THE ISLAND!!! EXACTLY WHERE HE SAID!!! AND YEAH!!! IN SOME THINGS IF U REALLY LOOK FOR THINGS THEN SOME THINGS CAN MAYBE APPEAR!!. BUT IN THIS CASE!! THERES JUST FAR TOO MUCH DETAILS THAT LINE UP PERFECTLY FOR IT JUST TO BE THEM HOPING FOR IT TO LINE UP!!!. 🤦🤦🤦
Patterns and shapes in clouds. Intriguing nonetheless.
@@margaretkiernan9957 You can count on it : ).
"I love humans. Always seeing patterns in things that aren't there." -- Doctor Who
Paul is dead.
All the clues are there
The Walrus was Paul.
it all makes sense to me. they didnt want to get in trouble so you create a fall guy.
I tried so hard to suspend my disbelief throughout Part 1, but I regret to report I lost all confidence in this hoakum as soon as I saw our great Mark Rylance credited as 'Actor & Playwrite' (sic) at the opening of part 2.
Why? Rylance understands Shakespeare well.
@@joecurran2811 Agreed, he's amazing; but these numpties can't spell 'playwright'.
Rylance doesn’t believe Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare. Look online. You’ll find him and Derek Jacobi laying out their case. I disagree with them.
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Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare. Being a playwriter is a way of life. What Bacon has to do with the life of an actor, playwriter, who is acquainted with both the salon life and the gutter life? Come on. Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare.
And had illiterate children and did not leave them any manuscript.
@@sonjak8265 His older daughter was not illiterate and you have no evidence at all about the younger one. No poets mentioned manuscripts in their wills. Why do you think Shakespeare should have?
@@Jeffhowardmeade Because whoever wrote those plays must have had many manuscripts.
@@sonjak8265 And so should whoever wrote every other play of the era, but no poet mentions them. A will is a place to list special bequests made to people other than your heir, not to inventory everything one owns.
@@Jeffhowardmeade We must have gone to different law schools.
I have a prejudice against people deeply invested in scholarship. They lack self awareness and thus act in such unforgivable, pompous surety. Every intellectual theory should be tested in the boxing ring! If you come up with some new way of seeing things you must defend it in the ring. It shouldn't change the truth claims if the presenter loses but it would do these guys some great good to be knocked about a little bit. I think it would improve their manners immensely.🙉🙈🙊
Wells is certainly knowledgable about the written works but he does his own Statfordian case no help by being so groundlessly dismissive of ideas he doesn't hold.
His case needs no help. People are either predisposed to believe conspiracy theories or they aren't.
@@Jeffhowardmeade You may be right. That would explain why the conspiracy has held for so many centuries.
@@matthewzuckerman6267 I guess 1.75 centuries is technically "centurIES".
@@Jeffhowardmeade I must admit I haven't read Bacon's book, though I've read five or six books on the subject, including one by Wells. There must be better Stratfordian books than his, I imagine, since that one convinced me more than some of the others that there was indeed a question.
@@matthewzuckerman6267 There's always doubt when dealing with history. Once you assume that everyone was lying, ALL you have is doubt. That's a useless position to take if you want answers.
I assume by Wells' book you mean Shakespeare Beyond Doubt. Yes, I agree that wasn't well done. Shapiro's Contested Will was better but not by much. Neither of them are used to looking at Shakespeare from the perspective of proving him.
Lucky them.
Presenting the case for Shakespeare is easy once one knows what the typical objections are. Countering specific Anti-Stratfordian claims is harder, as the various camps and sub-groups keep coming up with new theories and even new anti-Shakespeares all the time. You have Occultists (mostly Baconians), Cypher-Hunters (mostly Oxfordians), and your garden variety tinfoil hat wearers who just know that the Powers That Be are hiding something. No amount of evidence will ever convince any of these that a guy from Stratford wrote the works of Shakespeare. They have seen the anomalies and know that they just MUST have been put there intentionally.
As long as such people exist, hoaxes will continue.
Anyway, if you want to know what's true and what's not, I've heard all of the theories (up to about five minutes ago -- there could be new ones) and I know all of the evidence. I'll be glad to share.
So I looked up Petter Amundsen and was disappointed to see his profile prolifically retweet (wait for it) Tucker Carlsen. Gutted.
There is no such thing as a coincidence, we work very hard to make them happen. Anonymous CI A operative.
Rylance made his fortune and reputation from Shakespeare and now doubts his authorship. What a cnut
Yes, he’d be no one without Shakespeare. Judy Dench, on the other hand, wrote a book called “Shakespeare, The Man Who Pays the Rent.”
hat wells guy is in hard cope. doesnt know jack about the political atmosphere at the time. why would shakespeare sit back and get famous and rich for stuff he didnt do? hmm i wonder.
Another likely writer is Frank Bacon. Shakespeare is a much better name!
why not look at page 35 22 funny enogh i have 53 on my arm in frekkles naturally
Free Zuma he's innocent and a very honourable man
So weird. Stand on your head, there's a triangle and 8 # 4s, and a missing person. Just don't work so hard to change the regular into mystery.
I'm all in favour of historical and biographical analysis, size of vocabulary etc re authorship, but the cryptology/codes aspect is all too DaVinci code for me to take seriously. A shakespearian rabbithole too far.