Great help man! I'm making a new album and trying to get my tone right. Purposefully going for an old Metallica tone on this one and this helped a bunch. I have always gotten close, but now with these modern tools like Amplitube and Neural we can get so so much closer.
Such an amazing amp. So amazing that literally no one has ever used it on a heavy record ever outside of AJFA and MOP, and also was never used on its own on for rhythm tones 😂
@@joeyvpoisonfree it’s 100 percent true…but don’t tell all the fanboys of this amp that. Think about it..name me ONE heavy record outside of the Metallica records ( that had Marshalls and Marshall power amps and ADA MP-1’s and all kinds of other shit in there too) that this amp was used on…..can’t think of any, can you? Because they don’t exist. And no, dream theater doesn’t count. The internet is hillarious, it has all these kids believing this is the holy grail of amplification yet it has no credibility outside of Metallica. Also, bob rock said it was a mark III on the black album multiple times, so there’s that.
That bass resonance is a huge part of the Justice sound. That woof and boom is legendary and I love it. These days everyone does everything they can to avoid it. From eq to multiband compressors. Bring the woof back. Bring the scoop back
Another thing about this album's tone is that James was slaving the Mesa into a Marshall; basically using the preamp from the Mesa, and the power amp from the Marshall. You got really close tho!!
I guarantee you in a blind test you wouldn't be able to pick out which one is the plugin and which one is the amp. Especially in a mix. Maybe it sounds digital because you're watching it on UA-cam, genius. And as far as sounding "harsh," yeah, welcome to 80's and 90's Metallica guitar tones. Scooped and harsh.
@@RX120DI'd suggest anything that results in one of those snuggly looking sawtooth waveforms. The smoothest tones come from the gnarliest sharpest teeth as different from a sine wave as you can get it. That's the secret the pros don't like to share, as related to me by a person in a cow suit whom I met in a mosh pit whose cousin listened to Motorhead once.
Not sure that's really the case any more. I mean Billy Gibbons basically makes all his guitars "emulate" his "Pearly Gates" LP in a low tech "modeling lite" kind of way, although I do believe his standardized input tone still ends up routed to a real tube amp. Often a little bitty one, driving a small mic'd speaker in an iso box that's hidden behind/under stacks of empty husks of amp and 4x12 enclosures... always found that to not only be surprising to more people than I would have expected, but also somewhat comical and I always appreciate the contribution of some light humor as part of a complete, old fashioned, nutritious facemelting. Weehaw!
I've always thought this tone was one of the greatest, but it never got to see it's full potential.
Cool process with the DI, ive never tried having the luxury to craft the tone after recording
Spiro is the tone doctor.
Great help man! I'm making a new album and trying to get my tone right. Purposefully going for an old Metallica tone on this one and this helped a bunch. I have always gotten close, but now with these modern tools like Amplitube and Neural we can get so so much closer.
This was an incredibly accurate recreation of the AJFA guitar tone, raw and brutal af! 🤘🏽
Very accurate IR. One of the best amp sim, love those cabs too.
Sommelier of the AJFA tone over here. Salute
wow spot on
bro are you spiro dussias??
justice it was esp exploxers with emgs 81 and kirk had that esp strat the kh m2 and tom anderson strats with emgs too
Such an amazing amp. So amazing that literally no one has ever used it on a heavy record ever outside of AJFA and MOP, and also was never used on its own on for rhythm tones 😂
Is that true?
@@joeyvpoisonfree is what true?
@@truckguy3 literally no one has ever used it on a heavy record ever outside of AJFA and MOP, and also was never used on its own on for rhythm tones
@@joeyvpoisonfree it’s 100 percent true…but don’t tell all the fanboys of this amp that. Think about it..name me ONE heavy record outside of the Metallica records ( that had Marshalls and Marshall power amps and ADA MP-1’s and all kinds of other shit in there too) that this amp was used on…..can’t think of any, can you? Because they don’t exist. And no, dream theater doesn’t count. The internet is hillarious, it has all these kids believing this is the holy grail of amplification yet it has no credibility outside of Metallica. Also, bob rock said it was a mark III on the black album multiple times, so there’s that.
@@truckguy3are we talking the mark series in general? Or specifically the mark II c+?
i see a bunch of people asked about the IR but no answer.. any idea??
What IR did you use?
Pretty sure the tone on the black album was a combination of three amps …. Heard Kirk talking about that in an interview about them using Fractals now
That bass resonance is a huge part of the Justice sound. That woof and boom is legendary and I love it. These days everyone does everything they can to avoid it. From eq to multiband compressors. Bring the woof back. Bring the scoop back
use the ir on -0 ... :)
Sounds like AJFA 🫡
I'm so glad tones like this aren't really a thing anymore. But yeah, he nailed it, all the same.
Another thing about this album's tone is that James was slaving the Mesa into a Marshall; basically using the preamp from the Mesa, and the power amp from the Marshall.
You got really close tho!!
That was Puppets actually, but thank you sir!
Nobody slaved anything on Puppets for rhythm, Flemming said it was only for Kirk's solos.
gib ir
sounds harsh or "digital"
I guarantee you in a blind test you wouldn't be able to pick out which one is the plugin and which one is the amp. Especially in a mix. Maybe it sounds digital because you're watching it on UA-cam, genius. And as far as sounding "harsh," yeah, welcome to 80's and 90's Metallica guitar tones. Scooped and harsh.
@@o.phillips2522 I like my metal tones cute and fluffy and smooth with no sharp edges. I'll accept nothing else, OK?
@@RX120DI'd suggest anything that results in one of those snuggly looking sawtooth waveforms. The smoothest tones come from the gnarliest sharpest teeth as different from a sine wave as you can get it. That's the secret the pros don't like to share, as related to me by a person in a cow suit whom I met in a mosh pit whose cousin listened to Motorhead once.
Sounds digital
Pros use real amps not crappy software
Boohoo cry about It bn
Not sure that's really the case any more. I mean Billy Gibbons basically makes all his guitars "emulate" his "Pearly Gates" LP in a low tech "modeling lite" kind of way, although I do believe his standardized input tone still ends up routed to a real tube amp. Often a little bitty one, driving a small mic'd speaker in an iso box that's hidden behind/under stacks of empty husks of amp and 4x12 enclosures... always found that to not only be surprising to more people than I would have expected, but also somewhat comical and I always appreciate the contribution of some light humor as part of a complete, old fashioned, nutritious facemelting. Weehaw!
I did not understand a single word