Great video, coming from a G2 to a Quest Pro I completely agree. It's jaw droppingly good and I'm replaying even games from 2017 and finding they now look amazing. These pancake lenses are something else, and with local dimming and black blacks its the perfect HMD for the next year or so.
Thank you Kevin :) me also, I’ve been trying games I disliked on the Reverb and in the Quest they’re almost like a new game now. I can’t believe it got bad reviews when it came out
It’s fascinating because the G2 was the SimRacing standard for the last 2 years, right? I know there were alternatives but for like twice the price and doubtful improvements at all, so this is a leap forward
@@jairon_2518 it's the lenses, they are fantastic. Resolution on the Pro is actually slightly lower than the G2 but it turns out that lens optics are more important than resolution. It makes sense when you think about. In the real world our eyes all look at exactly the same world (displays) but our eye's lenses make all the difference to how you perceive it, and whether you can see clearly or not. The Pro's pancake lenses are essentially corrective eye surgery to someone who is shortsighted and has astigmatism (Fresnel lenses). It's really transformative and now we can finally enjoy VR in an immersive way, with the whole screen being clear and in focus, rather than just a tiny portion in the centre.
In a year the eye tracked foveated rendering is going to be a big deal. It's beta now and works with iRacing and ACC as well as MSFS. But if Quest 3 doesn't get eye tracking I think that'll be the big differentiator. It's up to a 50% performance lift which helps justify the higher price of the Pro as you can have a weaker GPU and get the same FPS.
I agree, I think the quest 3 should be near a pro level on release and have many of the same settings. I’m no Meta Fan but with VR they are setting a good standard for the rest of the market now
@@jairon_2518The psvr2 does indeed have eye tracked foveated rendering. It was far from the first to introduce it though. It is however probably the best implementation that exists as it allows the ps5 to run vr in much better clarity than it otherwise would be able to. Other implementations in the past have not been as well optimized and only resulted in a marginal performance boost.
I thought the Quest Pro was the most disappointing headset I've tried. Comfort levels were low, input lag was noticeable, image compression was very noticeable with blurred patches appearing on roads etc. Jittery. Audio cut outs, Lower graphic performance due to having to do the image compression etc etc. I was switching between a Reverb G2 v2 and the Pro on 2x different machines with RTX 4090. I tried to like it and each time I put the Reverb back on I disliked the QPro more. In the end I returned it. It was naff. Use OpenXR on the Reverb, set super-sampling to 1.5 - 2x , add some sharpening and it's a whole league above the Qpro.
My issue was the sweet spot and WMR. I tried OpenXR and followed many suggestions n settings but I spent too much time trying to find the sweet spot. I’m not knocking the reverb, it’s still one of the best on the market for value but my eyes just couldn’t find that clarity I was looking for. As for WMR on Windows 11, I had countless problems, disconnections, lost tracking while driving (even with a well lit room) and on many cases would completely crash my PC even after several reinstalls. The Quest Pro suits my knucklehead perfectly, I guess a lot comes down to eye distance and head shape. Although it has a lower resolution the pancake lenses make it more much more clearer to my eyes. But again, I’m not knocking the HP I just prefer the Pro, it works better for me.
It sounds like you weren't familiar how to set up the Oculus Debug Tool. My experience matched Will on Wheels, a significant upgrade over the Reverb G2, to the point I gave the G2 to my brother. By default Meta set the Link bandwidth very low so there is a lot compression but you can increase the bandwidth and eliminate it completely. PCVR looks spectacularly good compared to my Reverb G2 and Vive Pro 2. Using a 13900K, 4090 too.
Man, you totally missed it. I bought both and messed with them for 2 weeks. Same for me, once I found out how to properly setup oculus link (using the cable, NOT wireless) the experience completely changed. The glass elements are marvelous and without the nasty compression artifacts and blocking you get with the default settings, playing VR became an incredible experience. If I was you, I'd give it another shot and set it up properly. I bet you will end up selling the HTC reverb. Hint hint, if you already own a 4090, you should be able to get the maximum out of the Pro. Just setup the render resolution all the way to the right, set you oculus debug too to 1.4 pixel density for nice oversampling, sharpening to "quality and dude. Go race like never before!
@@financialliteracy_hr agreed. It definitely sounds like he didn't realise he could increase the bandwidth and was running it on the default setting. The Quest Pro is fantastic for PCVR visuals relative to my Reverb G2 and Vive Pro 2. I'd probably not bother with VR if I had to go back to those headsets now.
The quest pro is the performance sweet spot for sim racing right now until we get 5090's. I got the eye tracked foveated rendering working in ACC and nobody seems to believe me when I tell them I finally got that sim to look and run as good as AMS2. The only thing I'm still struggling with is the comfort but it's much better after getting a few mods.
I agree! I look forward to seeing what the 50’s series offer, hopefully they can add that much needed boost to run higher FOV’s like the Pimax 12k (if it ever gets released) ha! Can I ask how you got eye tracking to work? I enabled Dev options in Oculus but the menu still fails to show the options.
ACC looks better and you can drive at night and rain which in AMS 2 is not optimized. I run ACC without eye tracked foveated fendering and looks and runs amazing. 100 resolution and 125 pixel density (most settings high atleast), openxr with CAS 100, bitrate 800 in debug tool. Looks amazing.
@@-racingfan2014 Finally somebody that actually tried it and has seen what I see. I figure If we can get split rendering combined with eye tracking by the time we have 5090's we'll be able to push all the pixels in a 4k per eye headset on ultra settings in every sim title. I have high hopes for Samsung/Google or Valve to come out with such a headset in the next year or 2. This combined with new titles such as AC2, WRC 23 will be incredible.
@@-racingfan2014Ams2 has had the rain option since the game's release. You can drive at night, see the sun rise, and then it starts to rain. Then there is a storm, and finally the weather returns. You can program it or let fate decide. You can even have the exact weather of a day from another year in the place you want.
I'm using it for flightsims and while I haven't aold my G2 yet, I know it's not coming out of that box again. The Quest Pro is just so good. And the added benefit is that I'm having a TON of fun playing all kinds of silly and cool games in standalone mode.
Agree with all, except for the comfort. But the Globular Clusters comfort kit solved that, so in my extremely happy place atm. Sweet spot? It's all sweet spot.
I’ve heard a lot say this, I must have a weird head shape like Zuckerberg as it fits me well 😆 but yeah it’s clarity is amazing, the sweet spot is the whole lens, it’s amazing!
Haha yes it’s like that! The lenses make all the differences. Although the resolution is lower it’s much sharper and more clear plus it’s so nice to pick up and just play without hassle :)
I use the link cable and haven’t noticed any delays especially when driving which is crucial. FPS is better also then my HP. Running both at 1.5x SS with a 3090/7950x.
I did yes and it’s laggy with high graphical games but my Wi-Fi is extremely poor which doesn’t help. Playing oculus games is very good tho as they are a little less graphical intense
Happy owner as well coming from G2. I did need to buy the Globular Cluster comfort kit. From worst to best comfort headset. Also I like to keep my headset open on the bottom only using side light blockers. Keeps my head cool.
I hear a lot have made this move for the cluster but for my big spam head it fits quite well 😆 I also only use the side blockers they do a. Great job of blocking light without having a red ring around your face :)
@@WillOnWheels In my setup I keep the Stream Deck in a lower position and with the side blockers only I can pick to it and change settings on the fly without moving the headset or guessing
Will. Do you have a discord server or any type of community where your subscribers can get together and race? Love your videos man. Sim racing in VR is a niche that has needed to be filled for a while and you’re doing a great job at that.
I don’t sadly but it something I want to setup soon. I’m really struggling with time but hopefully come summer I’ll sort it :) and thank you btw, it’s surprising how little vr sim racing is on YT so glad to help out 😃
Thanks for your video, very interesting to make a choice. With wich Reverbg G2 do you compare the Quest Pro : V1 or V2 ? Sorry for my english i'm french :)
@@WillOnWheels Hi mate. The G2 came out in two different versions. The V1 and the V2. The V2 has a few improvements over the V1, one being greater FOV and tracking cameras.
in the headset settings there is the option for recording the video, as default is set to the left eye, you can swap it... if you use SideQuest you can even select both eyes and the recording will be centred
Hi Jury, sorry currently on holiday, I don’t use the record settings in the headset as the quality is quite low but even when I switch the eye preference some games override it such as AMS2
I use a pico 4, its resolution is higher than that of meta pro, it just doesn't have eye tracking, well configured for the simulator it is excellent, a great cost benefit, and use virtual desktop, now with new codecs, it is light years ahead of any other software, and using a good wifi 6 router you get rid of the cables, I have great experiences with my simulators.
I bought some HP G2 and it looks blurry at a distance, so I made a return. After what I see in your video it is clear that the Quest Pro is worth it for simracing so I am going for them. I would like to know what graphics card you have. I have an nvidia 3090. Will it fall short? Thank you so much.
Hi Juan, I also have a 3090 FE and it runs super well via link cable and 1.5x resolution in Oculus App. The tracking while in the seat is also much better then Windows Mixed Reality and you don’t have to keep resetting your boundaries.
Using my quest 2 with the original usb-c link cable (usb-c to usb-c) the headset always stays at 100% charge, even after several hours of use. You stated in the review this isn’t the case with the pro, or are you using a usb-c to usb-a cable?
Hi mate, yes with the Pro it’s has a very small drain. I’m using the official usb c cable directly into a usb c port on my motherboard. For me it’s fine as it never get below 80%
Have you tried a Quest 2? I've got a Quest2 and would be interested to know whether the pro is worth an upgrade? Bit cost for potentially marginal gain
I originally went to the store to purchase a Quest 2 but found the Pro to be better in visuals and tracking. If you have a quest 2 I would wait for the 3 which should be pretty much at a pro level of not better.
Thx for your video. Thinking of buying either quest pro or 3 or HP reverb. What will be best for my config? Asus rog RTX3070 oc, I5-10600k? Any help to make choice will be appreciated.
Hello mate, I would personally wait form some Quest 3 reviews to drop before the deciding. The Pro is amazing in terms of clarity and visuals and the hand and eye tracking is a big bonus depending on the games you play. The HP Reverb is also very good but is showing its age now and the Windows Mixed Reality needed to run it can be a nightmare at most times. An option if money isn't a concern is the Big Screen Beyond too but if it is then wait for quest 3 Reviews :) any choice you make will be fine with your setup too :)
👍Thx for your answer will, I appreciate but do you think my gpu is enough solid to handle a good frame rate with the quest pro? I was also thinking to wait for the quest 3 but I am a bit scared that meta has to sacrifice some good technicale parts that have the pro and at the end if you buy the quest 3 for 569€ + all side equipment to get it more confortable you are getting close to the pro price. By the way I am not interested with big screen concept but thx for suggestion.
Sounds like the Quest Pro is a worthwhile upgrade from a HP Reverb G2 V2 then?! Do you think it's worth waiting for the Quest 3? Sounds like it'll have better specs than the Quest Pro AND be cheaper?!
Personally yes I’d wait. I think the Q3 will be 99% what the Pro is and if it’s close to it you’ll love it. The lenses are phenomenal. The detail is sharp and the ease of setting it up makes VR gaming a breeze now.
The sweet spot is like 95% of the the whole lenses. If I keep my head still and just move eye eyes I can read text on the side comfortably. I struggled with the sweet spot on the hop but don’t have this issue with the QP :)
@@WillOnWheelsit's such an upgrade. My eyes utilize the clarity in a much more natural way. I tried going back to Quest 2 after 4 months of daily Quest Pro use. It was quite unbearable as my eyes have adapted to look around way more with less head movement.
I own the Reverb G2 V2. Do you think it's worth upgrading to the Quest Pro? Is there really much difference in image quality on AMS2? Quest Pro has only 106 fov.. 🤔
It really depends on budget, for me the difference was very big in terms of quality, the lenses made my experience much better. I struggled with the sweet spot in the G2 but this is probably down to my head and eye shape. I also had many problems with WMR software on win11 which made it a nightmare to setup each time. If you don’t struggle with these and find a good sweet spot in the g2 then I’d say hold on. It still a great headset and might be worth waiting for the quest 3 reviews.
Wish i could try the quest pro. I had to return the quest 2 because i literally can’t get it to work on usb 3.0 (every 3.0 and 3.2 port was and 13 cables) so it’s really compressed. My pico 4 looks much clearer off of the better connection I’m not sure what meta is doing but they need to fix that. Or…add a native DPport
I'm sorry to hear this but happy to hear your enjoying VR with the Pico! I was very dubious of running a game via USB and not HDMI/DP but I was blown away buy how good it actually was. I have a USB-C port on my motherboard which has good speed and haven't had any problems myself. Also sorry for the late reply :)
@@WillOnWheels Yea man I have several usb c's too. I like chunky motherboards so I always try to buy an expensive one so I'm not sure what was wrong with the meta rejecting the cables/ports. I just got a reverb in today and I plan to test it against the usb on the pico 4 and keep what looks the best
Hp Reverb g2 cost $400-$500 Quest Pro $1,000. I would hope the pro delivers a better experience. The question is, is it so good that its worth the extra $500? Answer: No
Bought the HP Reverb G2 and returned it after a week. Not the product itself but Windows Mixed Reality is an absolute shit show running with Windows 11. Constantly threw up non download and connection errors. Windows VR is on its arse compared to other user interfaces. Save your money.
Yes 100% agree. WMR is awful. Constantly having to reset my seated position, always glitching or crashing. It’s a shame Windows is so bad, you’d think they would make it good considering how many computers use windows OS
@@WillOnWheels I'm running a G2V2 with OpenXR and OpenComposite and have no issues in Win11. Locks in at 90 FPS and visually looks great compared to just running SteamVR. Have not tried any other headset, so cannot compare. Great review on the Quest Pro though. Not sure if it's worth upgrading from the G2V2. Maybe upgrade to a Quest 3 later on.
@mervyoung5397 I also used this setup but it just continually had problems like crashes, random freezes and would completely shut down my pc. Since the quest pro it’s been smooth sailing. I put the blame on WMR though and not HP. It’s still one of the best headsets on the market :)
Great video, coming from a G2 to a Quest Pro I completely agree. It's jaw droppingly good and I'm replaying even games from 2017 and finding they now look amazing. These pancake lenses are something else, and with local dimming and black blacks its the perfect HMD for the next year or so.
Thank you Kevin :) me also, I’ve been trying games I disliked on the Reverb and in the Quest they’re almost like a new game now. I can’t believe it got bad reviews when it came out
It’s fascinating because the G2 was the SimRacing standard for the last 2 years, right? I know there were alternatives but for like twice the price and doubtful improvements at all, so this is a leap forward
@@jairon_2518 it's the lenses, they are fantastic. Resolution on the Pro is actually slightly lower than the G2 but it turns out that lens optics are more important than resolution.
It makes sense when you think about. In the real world our eyes all look at exactly the same world (displays) but our eye's lenses make all the difference to how you perceive it, and whether you can see clearly or not.
The Pro's pancake lenses are essentially corrective eye surgery to someone who is shortsighted and has astigmatism (Fresnel lenses).
It's really transformative and now we can finally enjoy VR in an immersive way, with the whole screen being clear and in focus, rather than just a tiny portion in the centre.
@@kevinbrook7033 I see, thanks for the reply! Gotta save some money lol
This is exactly the video I was looking for, great job and thank you so much!
You’re very welcome and thank you Gortt:)
In a year the eye tracked foveated rendering is going to be a big deal. It's beta now and works with iRacing and ACC as well as MSFS. But if Quest 3 doesn't get eye tracking I think that'll be the big differentiator. It's up to a 50% performance lift which helps justify the higher price of the Pro as you can have a weaker GPU and get the same FPS.
I agree, I think the quest 3 should be near a pro level on release and have many of the same settings. I’m no Meta Fan but with VR they are setting a good standard for the rest of the market now
That’s what Sony introduced with the PSVR2 in GT7, right?
Flat2VR mod by preydog sounds like it's really going to unlock Quest Pro's eyetracking ability.
@@jairon_2518The psvr2 does indeed have eye tracked foveated rendering. It was far from the first to introduce it though. It is however probably the best implementation that exists as it allows the ps5 to run vr in much better clarity than it otherwise would be able to. Other implementations in the past have not been as well optimized and only resulted in a marginal performance boost.
I thought the Quest Pro was the most disappointing headset I've tried. Comfort levels were low, input lag was noticeable, image compression was very noticeable with blurred patches appearing on roads etc. Jittery. Audio cut outs, Lower graphic performance due to having to do the image compression etc etc. I was switching between a Reverb G2 v2 and the Pro on 2x different machines with RTX 4090. I tried to like it and each time I put the Reverb back on I disliked the QPro more. In the end I returned it. It was naff. Use OpenXR on the Reverb, set super-sampling to 1.5 - 2x , add some sharpening and it's a whole league above the Qpro.
My issue was the sweet spot and WMR. I tried OpenXR and followed many suggestions n settings but I spent too much time trying to find the sweet spot. I’m not knocking the reverb, it’s still one of the best on the market for value but my eyes just couldn’t find that clarity I was looking for. As for WMR on Windows 11, I had countless problems, disconnections, lost tracking while driving (even with a well lit room) and on many cases would completely crash my PC even after several reinstalls.
The Quest Pro suits my knucklehead perfectly, I guess a lot comes down to eye distance and head shape. Although it has a lower resolution the pancake lenses make it more much more clearer to my eyes. But again, I’m not knocking the HP I just prefer the Pro, it works better for me.
Thr blurry roads is a bandwidth setting from the headset. I fixed that completely
It sounds like you weren't familiar how to set up the Oculus Debug Tool. My experience matched Will on Wheels, a significant upgrade over the Reverb G2, to the point I gave the G2 to my brother. By default Meta set the Link bandwidth very low so there is a lot compression but you can increase the bandwidth and eliminate it completely. PCVR looks spectacularly good compared to my Reverb G2 and Vive Pro 2. Using a 13900K, 4090 too.
Man, you totally missed it. I bought both and messed with them for 2 weeks. Same for me, once I found out how to properly setup oculus link (using the cable, NOT wireless) the experience completely changed. The glass elements are marvelous and without the nasty compression artifacts and blocking you get with the default settings, playing VR became an incredible experience. If I was you, I'd give it another shot and set it up properly. I bet you will end up selling the HTC reverb. Hint hint, if you already own a 4090, you should be able to get the maximum out of the Pro. Just setup the render resolution all the way to the right, set you oculus debug too to 1.4 pixel density for nice oversampling, sharpening to "quality and dude. Go race like never before!
@@financialliteracy_hr agreed. It definitely sounds like he didn't realise he could increase the bandwidth and was running it on the default setting. The Quest Pro is fantastic for PCVR visuals relative to my Reverb G2 and Vive Pro 2. I'd probably not bother with VR if I had to go back to those headsets now.
The quest pro is the performance sweet spot for sim racing right now until we get 5090's. I got the eye tracked foveated rendering working in ACC and nobody seems to believe me when I tell them I finally got that sim to look and run as good as AMS2. The only thing I'm still struggling with is the comfort but it's much better after getting a few mods.
I agree! I look forward to seeing what the 50’s series offer, hopefully they can add that much needed boost to run higher FOV’s like the Pimax 12k (if it ever gets released) ha!
Can I ask how you got eye tracking to work? I enabled Dev options in Oculus but the menu still fails to show the options.
@@WillOnWheels Are you trying to set it up for AMS2 or ACC Also are you trying to make it work via Open xr?
ACC looks better and you can drive at night and rain which in AMS 2 is not optimized. I run ACC without eye tracked foveated fendering and looks and runs amazing. 100 resolution and 125 pixel density (most settings high atleast), openxr with CAS 100, bitrate 800 in debug tool. Looks amazing.
@@-racingfan2014 Finally somebody that actually tried it and has seen what I see. I figure If we can get split rendering combined with eye tracking by the time we have 5090's we'll be able to push all the pixels in a 4k per eye headset on ultra settings in every sim title. I have high hopes for Samsung/Google or Valve to come out with such a headset in the next year or 2. This combined with new titles such as AC2, WRC 23 will be incredible.
@@-racingfan2014Ams2 has had the rain option since the game's release. You can drive at night, see the sun rise, and then it starts to rain. Then there is a storm, and finally the weather returns. You can program it or let fate decide. You can even have the exact weather of a day from another year in the place you want.
I'm using it for flightsims and while I haven't aold my G2 yet, I know it's not coming out of that box again. The Quest Pro is just so good. And the added benefit is that I'm having a TON of fun playing all kinds of silly and cool games in standalone mode.
Ah that’s great to hear you enjoy it too. I’ve been playing games on the Oculus Store I never thought I’d play and both my sons love it too :)
@@WillOnWheels don't tell anyone, though...we're Serious Gamers!
🤣 haha yes! Only off camera I’m a massive kid at heart :)
Agree with all, except for the comfort. But the Globular Clusters comfort kit solved that, so in my extremely happy place atm. Sweet spot? It's all sweet spot.
I’ve heard a lot say this, I must have a weird head shape like Zuckerberg as it fits me well 😆 but yeah it’s clarity is amazing, the sweet spot is the whole lens, it’s amazing!
I just got a Quest Pro (coming from an Index). It's so much better. It's really amazing. Feels like going from 720p to 4k
Haha yes it’s like that! The lenses make all the differences. Although the resolution is lower it’s much sharper and more clear plus it’s so nice to pick up and just play without hassle :)
@@WillOnWheels how is the delay? I can't imagine it's better in terms of lag/fps than the Index?
I use the link cable and haven’t noticed any delays especially when driving which is crucial. FPS is better also then my HP. Running both at 1.5x SS with a 3090/7950x.
@@WillOnWheels thanks, did you test it without link cable as well?
I did yes and it’s laggy with high graphical games but my Wi-Fi is extremely poor which doesn’t help. Playing oculus games is very good tho as they are a little less graphical intense
agree with your opinion - great device is qp
Happy owner as well coming from G2. I did need to buy the Globular Cluster comfort kit. From worst to best comfort headset. Also I like to keep my headset open on the bottom only using side light blockers. Keeps my head cool.
I hear a lot have made this move for the cluster but for my big spam head it fits quite well 😆 I also only use the side blockers they do a. Great job of blocking light without having a red ring around your face :)
@@WillOnWheels In my setup I keep the Stream Deck in a lower position and with the side blockers only I can pick to it and change settings on the fly without moving the headset or guessing
Will. Do you have a discord server or any type of community where your subscribers can get together and race? Love your videos man. Sim racing in VR is a niche that has needed to be filled for a while and you’re doing a great job at that.
I don’t sadly but it something I want to setup soon. I’m really struggling with time but hopefully come summer I’ll sort it :) and thank you btw, it’s surprising how little vr sim racing is on YT so glad to help out 😃
Thanks for your video, very interesting to make a choice.
With wich Reverbg G2 do you compare the Quest Pro : V1 or V2 ?
Sorry for my english i'm french :)
Thank you Lasco, it was comparing the G2 version. Also, your English is superb 😃👍
@@WillOnWheels Hi mate. The G2 came out in two different versions. The V1 and the V2. The V2 has a few improvements over the V1, one being greater FOV and tracking cameras.
in the headset settings there is the option for recording the video, as default is set to the left eye, you can swap it... if you use SideQuest you can even select both eyes and the recording will be centred
Hi Jury, sorry currently on holiday, I don’t use the record settings in the headset as the quality is quite low but even when I switch the eye preference some games override it such as AMS2
How about latency compared to G2 btw?
I use a pico 4, its resolution is higher than that of meta pro, it just doesn't have eye tracking, well configured for the simulator it is excellent, a great cost benefit, and use virtual desktop, now with new codecs, it is light years ahead of any other software, and using a good wifi 6 router you get rid of the cables, I have great experiences with my simulators.
I bought some HP G2 and it looks blurry at a distance, so I made a return.
After what I see in your video it is clear that the Quest Pro is worth it for simracing so I am going for them.
I would like to know what graphics card you have.
I have an nvidia 3090. Will it fall short?
Thank you so much.
Hi Juan, I also have a 3090 FE and it runs super well via link cable and 1.5x resolution in Oculus App. The tracking while in the seat is also much better then Windows Mixed Reality and you don’t have to keep resetting your boundaries.
as the comment above, does the quest pro fix the really bad blurry distant image the G2 has ? @@WillOnWheels
what software/app do you use instead of windows mixed reality to run as PCVR headset? Ive just bought mine based on the review
Using my quest 2 with the original usb-c link cable (usb-c to usb-c) the headset always stays at 100% charge, even after several hours of use. You stated in the review this isn’t the case with the pro, or are you using a usb-c to usb-a cable?
Hi mate, yes with the Pro it’s has a very small drain. I’m using the official usb c cable directly into a usb c port on my motherboard. For me it’s fine as it never get below 80%
Have you tried a Quest 2? I've got a Quest2 and would be interested to know whether the pro is worth an upgrade? Bit cost for potentially marginal gain
I originally went to the store to purchase a Quest 2 but found the Pro to be better in visuals and tracking. If you have a quest 2 I would wait for the 3 which should be pretty much at a pro level of not better.
@@WillOnWheels cheers mate
Thx for your video. Thinking of buying either quest pro or 3 or HP reverb. What will be best for my config? Asus rog RTX3070 oc, I5-10600k? Any help to make choice will be appreciated.
Hello mate, I would personally wait form some Quest 3 reviews to drop before the deciding. The Pro is amazing in terms of clarity and visuals and the hand and eye tracking is a big bonus depending on the games you play. The HP Reverb is also very good but is showing its age now and the Windows Mixed Reality needed to run it can be a nightmare at most times. An option if money isn't a concern is the Big Screen Beyond too but if it is then wait for quest 3 Reviews :) any choice you make will be fine with your setup too :)
👍Thx for your answer will, I appreciate but do you think my gpu is enough solid to handle a good frame rate with the quest pro? I was also thinking to wait for the quest 3 but I am a bit scared that meta has to sacrifice some good technicale parts that have the pro and at the end if you buy the quest 3 for 569€ + all side equipment to get it more confortable you are getting close to the pro price. By the way I am not interested with big screen concept but thx for suggestion.
Is it better than the big screen VR or the Index?
You can use Bluetooth for sound. I connect my samsung earbuds pro2 and it sounds amazing
Good shout I got some air pods, I’ll give them a try 😃
Sounds like the Quest Pro is a worthwhile upgrade from a HP Reverb G2 V2 then?! Do you think it's worth waiting for the Quest 3? Sounds like it'll have better specs than the Quest Pro AND be cheaper?!
Personally yes I’d wait. I think the Q3 will be 99% what the Pro is and if it’s close to it you’ll love it. The lenses are phenomenal. The detail is sharp and the ease of setting it up makes VR gaming a breeze now.
@WillOnWheels Cool, thanks mate. Does the Q Pro have the same "sweet spot" issue as the HP G2? I find that kind of annoying.
The sweet spot is like 95% of the the whole lenses. If I keep my head still and just move eye eyes I can read text on the side comfortably. I struggled with the sweet spot on the hop but don’t have this issue with the QP :)
@@WillOnWheels Yep, I just bought the QPro to replace my G2V2. Much better. No small sweet spot whilst racing anymore. 👍🏽
@@WillOnWheelsit's such an upgrade. My eyes utilize the clarity in a much more natural way. I tried going back to Quest 2 after 4 months of daily Quest Pro use. It was quite unbearable as my eyes have adapted to look around way more with less head movement.
I own the Reverb G2 V2. Do you think it's worth upgrading to the Quest Pro? Is there really much difference in image quality on AMS2? Quest Pro has only 106 fov.. 🤔
It really depends on budget, for me the difference was very big in terms of quality, the lenses made my experience much better. I struggled with the sweet spot in the G2 but this is probably down to my head and eye shape. I also had many problems with WMR software on win11 which made it a nightmare to setup each time. If you don’t struggle with these and find a good sweet spot in the g2 then I’d say hold on. It still a great headset and might be worth waiting for the quest 3 reviews.
whats your computer setup?
Wish i could try the quest pro. I had to return the quest 2 because i literally can’t get it to work on usb 3.0 (every 3.0 and 3.2 port was and 13 cables) so it’s really compressed. My pico 4 looks much clearer off of the better connection I’m not sure what meta is doing but they need to fix that. Or…add a native DPport
I'm sorry to hear this but happy to hear your enjoying VR with the Pico! I was very dubious of running a game via USB and not HDMI/DP but I was blown away buy how good it actually was. I have a USB-C port on my motherboard which has good speed and haven't had any problems myself. Also sorry for the late reply :)
@@WillOnWheels Yea man I have several usb c's too. I like chunky motherboards so I always try to buy an expensive one so I'm not sure what was wrong with the meta rejecting the cables/ports. I just got a reverb in today and I plan to test it against the usb on the pico 4 and keep what looks the best
Wich one get's the most fps on the same PC?
Headset image or monitor image ?
why th side mirror look so close on the road, it has shadow on the road
Hp Reverb g2 cost $400-$500 Quest Pro $1,000. I would hope the pro delivers a better experience. The question is, is it so good that its worth the extra $500? Answer: No
I own both and my answer is : yes, it’s worth
tbh? yes, the 500 extra are worth it
Bought the HP Reverb G2 and returned it after a week. Not the product itself but Windows Mixed Reality is an absolute shit show running with Windows 11. Constantly threw up non download and connection errors. Windows VR is on its arse compared to other user interfaces. Save your money.
Yes 100% agree. WMR is awful. Constantly having to reset my seated position, always glitching or crashing. It’s a shame Windows is so bad, you’d think they would make it good considering how many computers use windows OS
First would like to get a direct drive wheel.
If you’re in the market or thinking, I’d recommend the Moza DD or FANATEC CSL DD for a good entry point. Both great products 👍
Or skip those and get a Simucube 2 Pro
If you had the reverb g2 v2 you didnt have to use windows mixed reality at all, it was a problem when it came out but itsn't a problem now
I used it with OpenComposite too but still had issues running on windows 11 :(
@@WillOnWheels I'm running a G2V2 with OpenXR and OpenComposite and have no issues in Win11. Locks in at 90 FPS and visually looks great compared to just running SteamVR. Have not tried any other headset, so cannot compare. Great review on the Quest Pro though. Not sure if it's worth upgrading from the G2V2. Maybe upgrade to a Quest 3 later on.
@mervyoung5397 I also used this setup but it just continually had problems like crashes, random freezes and would completely shut down my pc. Since the quest pro it’s been smooth sailing. I put the blame on WMR though and not HP. It’s still one of the best headsets on the market :)
I also have the reverb G2 V2. But I can't run OpenXR. Could I maybe rite with you to make it run? @@mervyoung5397
Thing is I can get the reverb g2, V2 for $399 right now vs $1000 for the pro.
Link for reverb g2?
Yep, that was my deciding factor too. G2V2 is very cost effective for what it is.
It's not HayB Reverb, it's ITCHB Reverb.
it's definitely not hayb nor itchb. btw he says it pretty good. No need to correct him.
Wow. I can't believe how much that thing costs
Should of seen the price 3 months ago 💀
try pico 4
I wonder if the quest3 will be as good with SIM racing