That was easy. Now try it with a Harrows Apex Sabre Dart Point. :) I don't believe it's possible to install one without damage using a Designa/Mission repointer.
This is a great point! A bunch of us were having this discussion the other day. How on earth do you install those points without damaging them? The part where you need to clamp is right where all the grooves and bumps are. I can't imagine installing them without marring them up. Cheers.
i done the apex points with the exact same repointer tool the other day, must say it was pretty easy to do was also expecting to ruin the point more so the fact i chose the black coated versions! I did post a photo on the darts nutz fb page on the new harrows avanti darts i picked up after the launch
Just came across this video. I had busted up my hands for years before using some vice grips to hold onto the tool. I've never had too many problems busting the points up, but when I have it's always been with the Harrows Apex points. The lance or any of the ridged ones, from time to time, will give me problems. The tape idea another commentor mentioned should work. I'll try that next time.
Single, best piece of advice I have received for repointing with this type of tool was that you should grip the tool at the top most rectangular piece of metal to ensure the points go in straight. I did not do this before. Now I do because this works.
Very true. And if you happen to watch the "other" darting review channel you'll notice that they grip the repointer right in the middle which is a big no no. It could potentially cause the dart to go off center and you'll end up inserting the point at an angle causing it to break.
Great video. I did a set of Storm's for a friend awhile back and bent one even trying to be careful. I did another set for another person the other day and made sure that the point was going in easily so I wouldn't bend one. I was making this mistake of holding the re-pointer like u showed. I will have to use a crescent wrench next time, great advice!!!!
Cheers Jules. Yeah, the slider part needs to be able to move freely so everything lines up well. Once you grab it the point or barrel can get crooked and it's really easy to snap a point that way. The best bet would to probably put the repointing tool in a vice.
New points are the next move in changing up my set up. I have a few more weeks in my season. I’ll make the change during the holidays and let ya know Thanks for sharing your expertise!
I should’ve watched a video like this a few weeks ago. I use dark thunders and have got these points in them but they are a little marked from how I clamped them in my repointing tool but still don’t affect my grip or anything. I might get some new ones soon and I’ll definitely be coming back to this video for guidance especially since your using the exact same points and darts as I have. Keep up the good work as always 😊
Thanks Pearce. Yeah, you can clamp them in there really tight as long as it's on that flat area. There's always the chance you'll get a slight scuff but if the point slides while clamped it can chew it up pretty good.
I have just started using the Winmau Freeflow points and really like them - more than Target Storm points. The Freeflow point is thinner (like a regular point) and the trident a bit smaller than the Storm.
Did mine a few months ago on my new Designa spectra easy peasy and thanks for the dart recommendation love mine and 16 bucks incredible! Thanks again WW!
@@WorldwideDarts it's crazy that I bought a set of dart in a shop by me last year since then have bought 3 or 4 sets from darts corner for the same price. Absolutely criminal us prices
It really is sad that they price gouge us so badly here. The affordable dart market is completely non existent. You mentioned buying those awesome Spectre darts. With the 8% off discount code I think they're about $16 or $17 for the barrels only. Imagine trying to buy a 90% tungsten dart here in the states for less than $20? It's impossible. Buying darts and dart supplies is extremely affordable. Some of the deals going on right now are almost too good to be true if you've seen my recent Amazon UK video. I truly believe that if more Americans knew about the REAL price of darts that we'd have more people playing. Darts would become way more popular imo. But when US shops try to sell everyone a $75 basic knurled dart that's not helping anyone but themselves. And I 100% agree... the prices here are borderline criminal and to take it one step further it almost appears that most the US shops are participating in illegal price fixing which actually IS illegal.
Thanks for the upload. I have done a few now and I must not be tightening the point in the clamp enough as I still get marks on the point.. not all the time. But it does happen. I'll have to give them 2 Alan bolts a good old tightening to see if that's the problem. Cheers WW 👍
Just a little trick I picked up when fitting storm points, at the base of the widest part of the point is a tiny radius which can result in a gap between point and barrel. Using a small (6mm ) drill between my finger tips rotate just a few turns to put a tiny chamfer in the end of the barrel ( it will show as a silver ring in the end of the barrel ). This will ensure the points will fit snug to the barrel and as the saying go's NO GAP WONT SNAP
Thanks for the Video, I fitted some Silver Storm points on my Loxley Robins with no problem, but the Gold Storm points I fitted on my Unicorn Machina Gold Darts started to scuff up a little, I guess it's the coating is so thin on them and marks easier trhan the Silver, I put a little bit of thin heatshrink tubing over the point along with a little bit of rubber packing on the next 2 points and they were a lot better, transforms the Darts. 👍
@@anthonygiordano4937 because qschool cost 500 pound maybe i wanna gif it a try but i do not have sponsors and i know if i do not have a great day it bye bye money
I put storm points in my Target Rob Cross darts with no issues. Then I put some in my Red Dragon Amberjack 18’s. They went in real hard and one ended up snapping off flush with the barrel. I may try Voks Tornados next time.
Hi WW, I changed now up to 200 darts but sadly today one of my barrels (Keane Barry Pixel Target Dart) is a bit twisted and the barrel is not perfectly straight anymore. Do you have some ideas if this could be fixed?
I have never had any luck with these points. I have tried on multiple sets. It seems the barrel doesnt have a set deep enough for these points or the point is too small in diameter and just falls out. Just use the disposable plastic ones now. Might try the winmau steel. Darts Corner here i come.
I scratched my points while doing it and I done what you said no clamping on that dip. I maybe done it too tight, how tight or lose did you put the point in place?
Im thinking of changing my points on my Taylor 8zero darts, they are a bit worn. What are the biggest benefits of the black Target Storm points? Love your channel
Sorry, I deleted this same question on your video on how to use the repointing tool and therefore lost your answer. Would you mind answering here again?
The benefit of Storm points is that they greatly increase the life of your flights. It's like day and night difference. I used to go through flights about every 3-4 days but now they last me months. Another benefit of Storms is that you'll get less wild deflections and the darts will now glide past one another in the board. I'd also recommend Winmau Freeflo points
@@WorldwideDarts Thanks for the answer! Those are some compelling arguments to get me some Storm points. I have already ruined my new mvg flights after a few days...What length for the points would you recommend with a 50-51mm barrel and a medium stem?
@@Robkup The length depends on what you're used to. Most darts come with a 32mm point but remember, 5mm of that is inserted into the barrel. So only 27mm are showing. In that case it would make sense to get a 26mm Storm point. Storms are measured as the part showing outside the barrel btw. Or you could go slightly longer and get the 30mm ones. Totally up to you. I use the 26mm ones
You sure can. I use the "Pro Black" repointer. Use the discount code wwide8 to save another 8%. $40usd isn't bad for a tool that should last a lifetime www.dartscorner.co.uk/index.php?cPath=2736_2737
When fitting a straight point with no stopping flange like the the ones shown how Do no each point on the 3 barrels is going to be the same length? Is there a stopping point inside the barrels?
@@WorldwideDarts Brilliant thank you I’ve just ordered some of the Winmau Freeflo. Have you ever done a review of the Scolia scoring system? I have it and love it but would love to hear some other peoples thoughts on it.
@@WorldwideDarts yeah it wasn’t cheap think it cost me around £600 but I use it everyday and think it’s definitely helped me improve my counting and confidence in games plus I can play people online and not have to chat like you do with webcam darts. Also like how it totals up your scores which I wasn’t very good at when I first started playing just over a year ago and felt under a lot of pressure when playing online
"Better" would be whatever you prefer but I like them because they help prevent wild deflections and they remove the lip on the dart that eats flights. So your flights will last 10x longer with these points.
Good tip on the adjustable wrench! Another would be to not use to much torque, especially you gym rats that don't know your own strength, 😋 I've seen some barrels crack where the tool/stem threads are. When it's a tight fit, I will sometimes take a countersink bit and lightly spin it in the point hole "by hand" to clear any burrs and make it a little more receptive.
I know this is 4 years old but i have a question Would it be better to buy a set of swiss point darts and change points rather than buying a tool and repointing standaed darts?
It all depends on what type of barrel you're looking for. If you think you'd like a specific Target Swiss point dart then go for it. The darts are nice enough and I love the Bolide series. My match darts are from Darts Clearance so I had to use a tool to repoint them. It all boils down to what barrels you want to use.
i do not really like the storm points if they brake they brake at such a ffing spot you really dont want to have a broken point . you can not get it or get it out only drill out and then you get way to big points i like the rob cross triangle fire points more that he is not using anymore .
If a point breaks off flush inside the barrel you can remove the point easily with Alum powder and cooking it on high heat (not boiling) in a glass bowl. Takes a couple hours.
To be honest I'm not sure how comfortable I feel with that. If something goes wrong and I snap a point or damage the barrel I would feel responsible. I'd rather not take on that responsibility to be fair.
@@evilbeetlekustomscreations4965 You're welcome. I feel bad for typing that as I'm here to help as many people as I can. But I also don't want to take the gamble if anything happens including them getting lost in the mail or something.
That was easy. Now try it with a Harrows Apex Sabre Dart Point. :)
I don't believe it's possible to install one without damage using a Designa/Mission repointer.
This is a great point! A bunch of us were having this discussion the other day. How on earth do you install those points without damaging them? The part where you need to clamp is right where all the grooves and bumps are. I can't imagine installing them without marring them up. Cheers.
i done the apex points with the exact same repointer tool the other day, must say it was pretty easy to do was also expecting to ruin the point more so the fact i chose the black coated versions! I did post a photo on the darts nutz fb page on the new harrows avanti darts i picked up after the launch
@@BARRYPIRIE1 just put tape around point before you put in machine no marks then
@@BARRYPIRIE1 cii
Just came across this video. I had busted up my hands for years before using some vice grips to hold onto the tool. I've never had too many problems busting the points up, but when I have it's always been with the Harrows Apex points. The lance or any of the ridged ones, from time to time, will give me problems. The tape idea another commentor mentioned should work. I'll try that next time.
Single, best piece of advice I have received for repointing with this type of tool was that you should grip the tool at the top most rectangular piece of metal to ensure the points go in straight. I did not do this before. Now I do because this works.
Very true. And if you happen to watch the "other" darting review channel you'll notice that they grip the repointer right in the middle which is a big no no. It could potentially cause the dart to go off center and you'll end up inserting the point at an angle causing it to break.
Great video. I did a set of Storm's for a friend awhile back and bent one even trying to be careful. I did another set for another person the other day and made sure that the point was going in easily so I wouldn't bend one. I was making this mistake of holding the re-pointer like u showed. I will have to use a crescent wrench next time, great advice!!!!
Cheers Jules. Yeah, the slider part needs to be able to move freely so everything lines up well. Once you grab it the point or barrel can get crooked and it's really easy to snap a point that way. The best bet would to probably put the repointing tool in a vice.
New points are the next move in changing up my set up. I have a few more weeks in my season. I’ll make the change during the holidays and let ya know
Thanks for sharing your expertise!
I should’ve watched a video like this a few weeks ago. I use dark thunders and have got these points in them but they are a little marked from how I clamped them in my repointing tool but still don’t affect my grip or anything. I might get some new ones soon and I’ll definitely be coming back to this video for guidance especially since your using the exact same points and darts as I have. Keep up the good work as always 😊
Thanks Pearce. Yeah, you can clamp them in there really tight as long as it's on that flat area. There's always the chance you'll get a slight scuff but if the point slides while clamped it can chew it up pretty good.
Nice and useful video! I don't have a repointer yet but I want and now I can know these little important things! 👍🏻
Great timing for your video as i just ordered a Designa repointer and some Winmau FreeFlo points this week. Thank you for the instructions. :)
You're welcome. Feel free to ask any other question you have when you get it. Cheers 👍
I have just started using the Winmau Freeflow points and really like them - more than Target Storm points. The Freeflow point is thinner (like a regular point) and the trident a bit smaller than the Storm.
Did mine a few months ago on my new Designa spectra easy peasy and thanks for the dart recommendation love mine and 16 bucks incredible! Thanks again WW!
Cheers Alashley 👍
@@WorldwideDarts it's crazy that I bought a set of dart in a shop by me last year since then have bought 3 or 4 sets from darts corner for the same price. Absolutely criminal us prices
It really is sad that they price gouge us so badly here. The affordable dart market is completely non existent. You mentioned buying those awesome Spectre darts. With the 8% off discount code I think they're about $16 or $17 for the barrels only. Imagine trying to buy a 90% tungsten dart here in the states for less than $20? It's impossible.
Buying darts and dart supplies is extremely affordable. Some of the deals going on right now are almost too good to be true if you've seen my recent Amazon UK video. I truly believe that if more Americans knew about the REAL price of darts that we'd have more people playing. Darts would become way more popular imo. But when US shops try to sell everyone a $75 basic knurled dart that's not helping anyone but themselves. And I 100% agree... the prices here are borderline criminal and to take it one step further it almost appears that most the US shops are participating in illegal price fixing which actually IS illegal.
@@WorldwideDarts no worries Iv been telling all my dart playing friends about Darts corner
A good and educational video as usual, keep up the good work m8. 👍🙂
Thanks Kent! 👍
Thanks for the upload. I have done a few now and I must not be tightening the point in the clamp enough as I still get marks on the point.. not all the time. But it does happen. I'll have to give them 2 Alan bolts a good old tightening to see if that's the problem.
Cheers WW 👍
You can throw any type darts well done great video
Just a little trick I picked up when fitting storm points, at the base of the widest part of the point is a tiny radius which can result in a gap between point and barrel.
Using a small (6mm ) drill between my finger tips rotate just a few turns to put a tiny chamfer in the end of the barrel ( it will show as a silver ring in the end of the barrel ). This will ensure the points will fit snug to the barrel and as the saying go's NO GAP WONT SNAP
Love the NOISSIW dart board.
Oh how i wish we could get those designa tools here in the phils. I also got the dark thunders because of your channel.
Just did my storm points with the same tool, scuffed a couple on accident but a little touch up with a black sharpie and they're good as new
Thanks for the Video, I fitted some Silver Storm points on my Loxley Robins with no problem, but the Gold Storm points I fitted on my Unicorn Machina Gold Darts started to scuff up a little, I guess it's the coating is so thin on them and marks easier trhan the Silver, I put a little bit of thin heatshrink tubing over the point along with a little bit of rubber packing on the next 2 points and they were a lot better, transforms the Darts. 👍
Thanks. I just uploaded another video about dart points. Something different to kick the week off with
you alway hit 180s why are you not with the big guys on stage ?
I swear hes gotta be in the top 5 in North America.. no idea why he doesn’t give it a real go in the CDC Q school
i hope he gives it a shot someday
@@anthonygiordano4937 because qschool cost 500 pound maybe i wanna gif it a try but i do not have sponsors and i know if i do not have a great day it bye bye money
I put storm points in my Target Rob Cross darts with no issues. Then I put some in my Red Dragon Amberjack 18’s. They went in real hard and one ended up snapping off flush with the barrel. I may try Voks Tornados next time.
Awesome WorldWide! Thank you!
Hi WW, I changed now up to 200 darts but sadly today one of my barrels (Keane Barry Pixel Target Dart) is a bit twisted and the barrel is not perfectly straight anymore. Do you have some ideas if this could be fixed?
I just installed my first set and 2 went in well and one will not seat all the way. What do you suggest?
I have never had any luck with these points. I have tried on multiple sets. It seems the barrel doesnt have a set deep enough for these points or the point is too small in diameter and just falls out. Just use the disposable plastic ones now. Might try the winmau steel. Darts Corner here i come.
Go with the Winmau Freeflo. It's just a regular point with a metal nose cone added to it. Highly recommend
What gram darts were the designa dark thunder that you repointed
Those are the 20g version
Can you show how to repoint a one80 reflex point adapter. Thank you
how do i know if my darts points will come out and how do i know what size will fit
Keep up the good videos. Can you do the spinning flights plz I want to get them
I scratched my points while doing it and I done what you said no clamping on that dip. I maybe done it too tight, how tight or lose did you put the point in place?
I clamp them fairly tight. If the point slips it's going to scratch
Im thinking of changing my points on my Taylor 8zero darts, they are a bit worn. What are the biggest benefits of the black Target Storm points? Love your channel
Sorry, I deleted this same question on your video on how to use the repointing tool and therefore lost your answer. Would you mind answering here again?
The benefit of Storm points is that they greatly increase the life of your flights. It's like day and night difference. I used to go through flights about every 3-4 days but now they last me months. Another benefit of Storms is that you'll get less wild deflections and the darts will now glide past one another in the board. I'd also recommend Winmau Freeflo points
@@WorldwideDarts Thanks for the answer! Those are some compelling arguments to get me some Storm points. I have already ruined my new mvg flights after a few days...What length for the points would you recommend with a 50-51mm barrel and a medium stem?
@@Robkup The length depends on what you're used to. Most darts come with a 32mm point but remember, 5mm of that is inserted into the barrel. So only 27mm are showing. In that case it would make sense to get a 26mm Storm point. Storms are measured as the part showing outside the barrel btw. Or you could go slightly longer and get the 30mm ones. Totally up to you. I use the 26mm ones
@@WorldwideDarts Thank you! I didn't know how they were measured, very helpful!
Clean and useful.
Thx
Can you get all this from darts corner because I have been looking for a repointing tool
You sure can. I use the "Pro Black" repointer. Use the discount code wwide8 to save another 8%. $40usd isn't bad for a tool that should last a lifetime www.dartscorner.co.uk/index.php?cPath=2736_2737
@@WorldwideDarts wwide8 discound on dartscorner?
@@radonjicaa Correct
When fitting a straight point with no stopping flange like the the ones shown how
Do no each point on the 3 barrels is going to be the same length?
Is there a stopping point inside the barrels?
Some points go further in than others, I recommend measuring them after fitting them.
Hopefully the point holes are drilled out evenly so you just keep jamming them in there until they bottom out
Hi WW I love these points but find them very chunky wish they did slimmer version of these points
Check out the Winmau Freeflo or the Red Dragon Trident points. Slimmer version of these
@@WorldwideDarts
Brilliant thank you I’ve just ordered some of the Winmau Freeflo. Have you ever done a review of the Scolia scoring system? I have it and love it but would love to hear some other peoples thoughts on it.
@@davidholgate958 Awesome! No, not seen that scoring system. I've seen Darts Ref and Wayne Mardle talk about it though. $$$
@@WorldwideDarts yeah it wasn’t cheap think it cost me around £600 but I use it everyday and think it’s definitely helped me improve my counting and confidence in games plus I can play people online and not have to chat like you do with webcam darts. Also like how it totals up your scores which I wasn’t very good at when I first started playing just over a year ago and felt under a lot of pressure when playing online
Are these tips valid for all darts or only for target storms?
These points work well on most all darts.
jpw os there still paint on the front of those barrels?
lol after 3 days of using mine they looked like they were screen worn by boba fett...
Are these points any better than the standard points you get on target agoras?
"Better" would be whatever you prefer but I like them because they help prevent wild deflections and they remove the lip on the dart that eats flights. So your flights will last 10x longer with these points.
Ohhh cool cool.. next thing now that gonna get into.. lol.. thanks your a mind reader...
Cheers Darren 👍
Good tip on the adjustable wrench! Another would be to not use to much torque, especially you gym rats that don't know your own strength, 😋 I've seen some barrels crack where the tool/stem threads are. When it's a tight fit, I will sometimes take a countersink bit and lightly spin it in the point hole "by hand" to clear any burrs and make it a little more receptive.
Thanks Patrick. These things started easy but then went in REALLY hard. I wish I would have picked a different dart for this.
Will swiss points go into any original dart ends?
@@thanors1492 No. Only Target Swiss Points barrels
@@WorldwideDarts Cheers can you buy them separate points and barrels.
I know this is 4 years old but i have a question
Would it be better to buy a set of swiss point darts and change points rather than buying a tool and repointing standaed darts?
It all depends on what type of barrel you're looking for. If you think you'd like a specific Target Swiss point dart then go for it. The darts are nice enough and I love the Bolide series. My match darts are from Darts Clearance so I had to use a tool to repoint them. It all boils down to what barrels you want to use.
@@WorldwideDarts thanks for reply, I'm new to darts so am experimenting (costing me a fortune) I don't really know what I prefer at the moment
Can't go wrong with the Target Bolide 04 but I would strongly recommend Swiss Target Storm points provided you purchase a Target Swiss point barrel
@@WorldwideDarts Thanks pal
Where did you get b that tool at if you don't mind me asking
Darts Corner. It just happens to be on sale this month too. Designa repointing tool
How do you get the original points out though?
with the repointing tool. just in reverse . worthwhile having one. takes 5 min for a set
I like you alot pls more
do they fit into every barrel?
I would say about 95% of the time they do. There's a few rare exceptions like Cosmo for example
@@WorldwideDarts alright, thanks alot sir, also thanks for the quick response :D
Waiting on the stem reviews.
Looking at Wed the 27th I think. It's either the stems or a one month update on the board. Haven't decided yet.
Worldwide Darts I have been using the stem lock and grip lock for a couple months now.
Storm points and one 80 darts don't go well. Usually the taper on the Barrel is smaller then the point and creates a lip
I've searched everywhere w/ no luck... Where are these points manufactured?
Made in China on the package
i do not really like the storm points if they brake they brake at such a ffing spot you really dont want to have a broken point .
you can not get it or get it out only drill out and then you get way to big points i like the rob cross triangle fire points more that he is not using anymore .
If a point breaks off flush inside the barrel you can remove the point easily with Alum powder and cooking it on high heat (not boiling) in a glass bowl. Takes a couple hours.
@@WorldwideDarts do you have vids from that or more information ?
custommadedarts.com/pages/broken-dart-point-removal
Can I mail you some darts of mine and have you install some points?
To be honest I'm not sure how comfortable I feel with that. If something goes wrong and I snap a point or damage the barrel I would feel responsible. I'd rather not take on that responsibility to be fair.
@@WorldwideDarts no worries thanks for the reply I appreciate it!
@@evilbeetlekustomscreations4965 You're welcome. I feel bad for typing that as I'm here to help as many people as I can. But I also don't want to take the gamble if anything happens including them getting lost in the mail or something.
180👍👍👍😉
Slightly passive aggressive re: the gym or just me? Lol
Maybe a slight poke 😂
@@WorldwideDarts hahaha