@@Jennifer-fj4wf not necessarily when being in that industry. He seems to have a lot of IT knowledge under his belt. It’s the skills they’ve developed wether they learned it from school or otherwise that matters to these companies. Also, did you completely miss them saying he developed an app while he was in middle school and was in coding competition for google? Let’s not discount his skills. Negotiating a higher salary can also be revisited and renegotiated anytime
Go Stanley! You now have a 4 year head start and debt free. The field of computer science is changing ever so much that I am sure Google would be a far better environment for you to develop. If you persist on your hard work and learn to collaborate with people well, I am sure great things would happen to you. Kudos to your father/family for supporting you. Your story is inspiring!
It helps when your father is a high-level manager there lol Google isn't randomly hiring high schoolers w/o a degree off the streets. I'm sure this dude deserves it and is smart enough, but without that family connection this wouldn't be a news story
@@silverdragon2462wait for real? That would make a heck ton of sense... generally though, in my opinion I think the computer science field, at least career-wise, is dying.
It is nice, but it won't work for most. I think he has connections with someone at Google. If you don't have that connection, it makes it difficult for some kid to get hired by Google. Probably would not even make it to an interview.
I swear he probably has family members/friends at Google. There is no way Google would hire him if they just met him. But if he has insane networking props to him.
@@stardestroyer1610 His dad is a manager at Google. They left that part out in the story. He's a smart kid no doubt, but he would get ignored if not for his dad pulling the strings. Would not even get an interview.
It helps when your dad is the "Software Engineering Manager" at Google. I'm sure that had nothing to do with it. These kids today expect to go straight to the top without any work experience or paying their dues.
Ehhh not to discredit him, but I know multiple people who went to almost non known cheap colleges who got jobs at Google. However, Google is an amazing company from what they’ve told me, pay very well, with amazing benefits. And luckily, they look more at peoples skills rather than college degrees, which is what everyone should do.
Whenever I have been on a Google campus (mostly X), I see a lot of 20-somethings milling around doing nothing. An MIT or Princeton grad would not want to work in that environment. People who do nothing all day generally want to mess with people who are productive. The only thing Google is good at is selling advertising. That supports are their failed initiatives; too many to list here. Lol
Corporations don't care about your Programming or Software Engineering degree. They care about your skills and knowledge of programming. This news report acts like majorless programmers are hired once in a blue moon.
I know Stanely! He is a great kid, really smart, humble, and spent a lot of time volunteering to teach kids Computer Science. It was disappointing to hear that he was rejected from so many schools, but I've no doubt he will go on to do even more amazing things!
On the one hand, it's a good thing that he didn't waste his time and money on college because what he wants to do doesn't actually require a degree. On the other, literally the only reason he was rejected from those schools is because he's Asian.
I cannot believe Cal Poly rejected him?! What a loss to all the schools who rejected Stanley! Stanley is such an excellent young man. It’s Google’s win to hire this brilliant young man.
maybe - but if even the lowest rankgin school rejected him.. ther emust have been somethign wrong with his application. again, he seems like a great kdi wth promising talent.. but sounds liek he messed up his application. can't necessatily blame race on this one. you see affirmative action at most competitive schools liek MIT, but not so much at lower ranking schools... if he's so great, then he should have no problem getting into his safety. probably overly "crafted" his application essays... @@CandiceWalker-ce9ps
I know Stanley from school! I met him one day during practice for our school Cross Country team, and ever since then he's always come off as such a kind and courageous person. He deserves all of this so much and I'm super happy for him and his family. I still get to see him pretty often, which also gets to be a huge gift for me as well. LETS GO STANLEYY!
It just shows the state of college corruption in the us. He’s obviously smarter than what it takes to be enrolled at any of them, and it’s their loss. Good for him for going straight to work for google, and good for them for providing opportunities to intelligent and competent people like this.
Factors that may have affected him? He's from a rich area & his family is wealthy & the fact he's Asian. College applications in America ask the most outrageous questions.
No, a lot of the schools he applied to are reaches for computer science for most. You could mean the state of corporate corruption. Zhong's dad's position is software engineering manager at Google, which most fail to mention
@@austinhxiao nah, he's not that special compared to other applicants who got admitted to these universities with a 5% acceptance rate or lower. For example, I was rank 42/660 at my school (top 3 HS in the state) with a 4.48 GPA and 17 AP classes and a 1590 on the SAT. I got rejected by a lot of top colleges, but got into many as well. Considering how easy it is for every kid nowadays to apply through Common App, people need to realize they're not the only high achieving students and that essays and differentiation actually matter.
@@austinhxiao for ex., as a CS major, I got into Georgia Tech (one that rejected this kid), Cornell, Purdue, and UW Seattle but got rejected from UMich and Vanderbilt, the two which are lower ranking in CS than the others listed. Sometimes you're just not a fit for their school or you didn't write the most appealing essay to convince the admins 🤷♂️ sometimes you're just not special or appealing enough for them, and that's ok
Not dumb, they just have to cave in to the other races to make them look good. If he was the other race they would've begged him to come and be on the front page of the MSM.
I mean, if his competition is with other Asians who also have 4.0’s but all you did was study for that 4.0, well it doesn’t cut it. What if the other people also had 4.0’s and maybe 3.7’s, 3.8’s etc but had to overcome challenges, who are you going to pick? The Asian who has a 4.0 with nothing else to show or the Asians with 4.0’s but a story of how they overcame those challenges? Or the Asians who also have extra curricular activities, volunteer etc I mean you can give me the old bs of “I would choose him because he’s smart” but unfortunately, that’s not all it takes sometimes. I unfortunately am not all that impressed by someone who had straight A’s because all he did was sit in a room and study when there are other lads who also got good grades but did so much more with their time.
2:05: “Feel worse”? No, this young person got the last laugh: no tuition payments, fast tracked into a career. Work hard young, man. Others are watching and your experience might incentivize others to dream big. Best wishes😊
A black lesbian stole his college spot, only to come out of college burning down her own neighborhood in anger, while the legit smart Asians continue to build, invent, and be great Americans. There is a difference in IQ, it is biological.
This is a story for old people who don't know better that won't be able to resist not watching and say what you just said. There's MANY positions at Google, he'll be at one of the bottom ones and paid probably the least.
Yes, the only point of going to school is getting a job at Google. We should just do away with all subjects in school that aren't conducive to this outcome, and stop requiring education for children who could never hope to land such a job. It's pointless. Do you like literature? Useless. Do you like history? Useless. English? Useless. Unless you get multiple six figures at Google, you are worthless, and no education should have been wasted on you.
They look at him as piece of clay that they can mold perfectly to suit their company, as opposed to someone who goes to a prestigious school, with unrealistic expectations for the jobs they apply to. He’ll do good in life 👍🏻
It's true that he doesn't NEED college, but one of the standard requirements that a lot of companies do follow is having a degree from a post-secondary institution. I'm not trying to say that that's how it should be, but I am saying that is how it currently is.
Lots of good students got rejected so there’s space for those who are underprivileged. But eventually those cannot survive but drop out. That’s why many can transfer to the university from community college to junior classes.
Actually, he NEEDS a college diploma. Any job he ever applies for past Google is going to be rejected because the auto job sorting system is going to dump his application thinking he is a janitor at Google. ( and no dis to janitors )
@@bobroberts2371 not hard to get a diploma now days to get “promoted” or move to other company. You forget he’s going to be making money at 18 and if he needs to move on he will have the finances to. Companies as big as Google, he can easily get a diploma working and they will pay for it, especially if he has a lot of potential.
My son is currently in the midst of his college applications, and he was feeling somewhat disheartened to learn that you had received rejection letters from 16 colleges. With a GPA of 4.37, he initially planned to apply to just his top 4 choices. However, your experiences have inspired him to broaden his horizons. Congratulations Stanley on securing a job at Google!
@@junzilla13 i double up on this he only has to pretend to be trans for like a year until he gets in and then for the first month so he can get priority registration then he can be normal again
Let me correct that by saying you don't need a formal education for a lot of IT jobs for which certifications, networking, and a portfolio of work can go a long way.
The dad works for Google for IT. He got his kid the job. The only reason he got a job was because of his dad. Google doesn't just hire people out of highschool to do software engineering jobs.
It's really mind boggling. He went above and beyond with competitions and creating his own software and he still didn't make? Meanwhile, other students with rich parents get in with nothing.
@@Kurry34 That's how the world works. He didn't write his own software company. He paid for website code that has the same functionality as docusign. There's people out there like me that actually write the code in template formats and sell them. There's code you can buy that has an exact replica of youtube. You can pay the price and then host it on your own server or lease a server and run it off there. you don 't have to be a programmer. There's also open source projects where you can download software for free that does these things and you just tweak it and swap out the graphics and use your own or pay an artist to make your website look custom. That is all he did. Anyone can do this and you don't need to a programmer or a software engineer. Docusign written their own code because there was no concept like that. The others replicated it and sold that code online to anyone wanting to pay for it. Some companies paid for functionalities to added it to their own website for their on employees and vendors. I doubt the kid touched any code other then configurated it and used his own graphics or paid someone to do it. just google docusign template code and youtube template code or buy code similar to youtube. You can find many that are fully customizeable.
@@Kurry34lmao you are so far off the mark. It’s not rich kids getting in these schools. It’s the right kind of minority getting accepted - black. Overachieving Asians are a dime a dozen.
Why even go to college when you can get a 6 figure job straight from high school. By the time his former classmates graduate he will be a big tech software engineer with 4 years of experience
This is an exceptional young man. Very brilliant, well spoken and possess skills most people don’t have until after undergrad. All of those schools were probably afraid they had nothing to teach him. It’s unfortunate that he will miss out on the traditional college experience.
I think he has a much more deeper experience coming. He can move up the ladder in google. Most likely making more than someone who graduated with a bachelor’s probably
Colleges aren't 'afraid'. That's a positive spin on rejection due to race. Universities/colleges are businesses and want bragging rights for stats, culture and marketing....most Google employees; HS valedictorians,, etc..bill gates went here.
Had he gone to college, he would have been part of the statistics that show how much more you make by attending college. The truth is, these kids are already talented and driven BEFORE they step foot on campus.
Yup, kids that want to learn will learn. The fact the internet has made so much knowledge available in an instant and kids are still so lazy and stupid says something about culture and society. My friends and i actually had to go to a library and read books to learn to code
I can honestly say, after 17 years of college and study, working on 5 degrees and average colleges/universities; I had zero success. It sounds like you got a super job anyway and seem like a mature, well -rounded individual. It definitely matters what field of study you choose and skills, experience and connections are a key.
It’s good, but a 4.2 gpa is pretty low compared to most students applying to those elite schools. A bunch of students who get in now have to aim for 4.5 and higher since college applications are getting harder each year. At my school, most students even thinking of applying to those schools are taking a lot more AP classes and college courses. Every year it’s getting more competitive to get into these top tier colleges because kids are taking harder and harder classes. 10 years ago, the top college in my state had a 60% acceptance rate and an average gpa of 3.9 w/ an average SAT score of 1230. Now the acceptance rate is 13% and the average sat score is 1490 lol. My brother got into that school in 2015 and went to the same high-school I’m currently in. The highest math the school offered at the time was pre calculus, now about 200/800 students in my grade are taking pre calculus during 10th grade 😂
@@bb4251No actually a 4.2 is not low, it depends on what grading scale you use. Some schools have only a 4.0 scale, some have a 5.0 scale, some have a 100 scale. There is no standardization of GPA systems in the country, you simply cannot just take a number from one high school at face value. Many colleges have their own process of standardizing GPAs these days or consider GPA in the context of a kid’s school. Because there is no way a “4.5” from one school is equal to a “4.5” at another school regardless.
@@bb4251It’s not high enough for an Asian but it’s top 1% for Black or Mexican. If universities went STRICTLY based on accomplishments, extracurriculars, GPA, and SAT score, The top 20 schools in America would be filled with majority Asians.
Best of luck to this young man. He deserved a much better reception from the colleges he applied to. I hope that he one day sets foot on those campuses as an exalted guest lecturer, whose talks and classes the students flock to with more energy and excitement than the universities' own tenured professors. But the distress remains that there are many who are in a similarly unlucky position, who did not get an offer from Google - I wish them full success as well.
My daughter was in the same situation as you and most kids. She had a 4.2 GPA and didn’t get into any UC schools. She has worked so hard in HS was devastated when she didn’t get accepted. She is still struggling with it today. I agree there needs to be transparency in how these schools determine candidacy
My daughter got 4.2 gpa was rejected by ucla, usc. She’s going to cal state Long Beach for pediatrician now. Sad, America doesn’t support hard working, just skin color. But that doesn’t stop Asian kids from achieving their goal. I’m glad because those big schools would’ve cost me way more for the same classes.
Very grounded kid and parent. They pointed out something so basic and so obvious, but probably will never be addressed, sadly speaking. Also, good job by ABC to give them a forum to tell their story.
Congratulations Stanley! I think this is a blessing in disguise. You don’t need to worry about college debt, maybe Google will even pay for it if you later want to go back. You have the will power to overcome difficulties, the world is yours! Best of luck!🎉
The state of college admissions is beyond awful and I totally feel for kids who are going through it. Stanley seems like a very capable young man but it is certainly unusual that google would hire someone without a degree (it looks like his dad works there?) so I don't think the focus of this story should be "hey there are other alternatives!". I absolutely agree that we need more transparency into college admissions as right now students don't have a clue who to apply to and how many applications they need to send in order to be accepted. None of the California schools would even take into account his amazing SAT score (which is wrong).
with the amount of people faking their academic career for jobs, its probably refreshing to hear someone who actually has drive to succeed and isn't using academics as a leverage.
Let me explain a few things for people who are not in Palo Alto. Gunn High School is ranked #1 in California (my son is at Gunn), the level is very high and only a few kids from Gunn are admitted to other Colleges or Universities to respect a ratio. With a great GPA, Stanley didn't compete with other High School students from all over the country but high GPAs and ratios from Gunn. Students with lower GPAs from other High Schools in the country have better chances to be accepted. A good practice is to do 1 or 2 years of Community College before applying to big Colleges or Universities, chances to be accepted are way more higher and it's less expensive.
@@annamarielewis7078that's the negative point. But overall they offer a great education with great conditions (low number of students per classroom, sometime 2 teachers per classrooms, etc.). Also, students must go to their neighborhood's High School.
what the interview doesn't mention is that his father is an engineering manager at Google. that doesn't necessarily diminish stanley's coding skills and hard work that allowed him to pass the interview to earn the offer at Google. but, having a parent in the industry who could guide him growing up certainly gives him a certain amount of privilege compared to other kids.
That balances out his lack of privilege in college admissions. Elite colleges limit students of his ethnic background and particular type of DNA he was born with.
He did everything the system (college/uni/academic culture) told him he was supposed to do (high GPA, extracurricular, innovative) but was rejected due to race (too many Asians, the system says). I commend his father, his support, advocating for him.when others failed him. The kid still had to interview and pass those. His certainly wasn't 'privileged' enough to be admitted to the uni system
@@fleur257It’s called nepotism, and yes. I’m sure he’s intelligent, deserves a good job, and his father did what any other parent would do in their position - but let’s not kid ourselves into thinking that this isn’t privilege, or that it’s not unfair to others in similar positions without a family member/friend to help them.
It is interesting that even with no affirmative action in public California institutions (since 1996) this young man didn’t get acceptance anywhere in the UC system. Colleges and universities might have to explain their admissions process and admit these metrics are only used to weed out candidates but their ultimate decisions are purely subjective. Let’s be honest, some of these schools are reading upwards of 70,000 applications per cycle. Are they even reading these applications and giving these students the consideration they deserve?
Easy to apply affirmative action when his last name is Zhong. That’s what’s sad about all this. Implicit bias will still influence the liberals who make admission decisions.
It depends on the major he chose. These kind of kids are a dime a dozen at Berkeley. And Berkeley isn’t even the top school for computer science (3rd best after MIT, Stanford and maybe Carnegie Mellon, depending on the ranking system). FYI, Google isn’t the best paying tech company. It’s a layover company. Smaller tech companies pay more and offer stock options/RSU’s.
My college app experience was very similar to him. Scored 1490 on the SAT; took 9 AP classes and never failed a single AP test. Wrote a compelling college essay that was approved by 3 English teachers. Played varsity sports 2/3 seasons. Yet, in the end, I was rejected from 10/11 schools. Even Ohio State didn't accept me and that was supposed to be one of my safe picks. I don't want to say that being Asian is the cause for my experience, but I have no doubt that it is a factor. It's quite a shame because as this video highlights, there's very little transparency within the whole process. I often think about how different my life would be if one of those schools had taken the chance on me.
You said so many things that amounted to such little coherence. And yes, what school you go to does have a major impact on life trajectory. You can debate me all day on this topic but it's simply fact.@@marys.1361
There is a possibility that Ohio State rejected you because they thought you were overqualified. Look up "yield rate." This is only a theory/suspicion, but I have heard of instances where this occurs.
Possibly. I won't deny that what you mentioned may have occurred. However it would be quite surprising. I can't really fathom the logic behind it. @@snaeshaads8203
At this point, doesn’t really matter what he did academically. To be a software engineer, you don’t really need to go to school. A lot of the time we think that school will help us, when it dumbs us down a bit. He’s being thrusted into an environment that will foster his abilities to think outside the box. That’s what tech companies look for anyway. On top of his brilliance, I can tell he has a strong work ethic and will to succeed which will take him far. He got the job through Google by being prepared for his blessing. No luck involved. Preparation met the opportunity and he jumped on it. Stay the course. More to come.
@@AmoebaCultureyeah not many people understand that. The network is always changing and be in a fast paste. Companies cares about how you fix a problem that is all. No piece of paper is going to impress them
Another Googler here, from the Cloud as well. Welcome! Talented people are talented people, with a graduate degree or without. Passing the contests and the interviews obviously means you have a good college-level grasp on Computer Science. There's a lot of folks here coming from different science (Physics, Chem, Math) backgrounds, including me. What's important, is the passion for coding, and being a good team member.
ya I meet so many super smart people who didn't go to college for a number of reasons. Either they came from families with extremely limited resources and had to work out of HS to support the family, their parents aren't here legally so they have trouble getting loans and stuff like that, or they're first generation American and think college isn't for "people like us" sort of deal. I know super smart people who had to drop out cause they couldn't afford it and didn't want to take out loans but were getting strait A's. I never judge anyone by lack of degree after working with these people.
They reject students like him, (who by the way, seems to have incredible extracurriculars) but are more than happy to take legacy admissions. Just shameful.
This case is far more nefarious than just Legacy/Affirmaction He's a whiz kid and couldn't get in even at state schools. It looks like people are specifically trying to keep him out for some reason. Maybe they see the potential in him, and they don't want him to succeed out of jealousy--they probably let in more of the "do things by the book" Asian kids
Aren't some Asians suing some Ivy League schools right now because they are being discriminated against? Most schools have gotten to "woke." Grades, scores, extracurricular activities, reference letters, essays are the only factors now. I bet if he put certain pronouns and a different race he would have gotten into most of those schools. There have been many news stories about those things happening much more than in the past. The schools are doing a disservice to everyone when they accept students for the wrong reasons. I forgot to add Alumni kids and Benefactor kids in the group.
@@chrissypoo69 oh my goodness he's just too young. time is on his side no need to rush he could retire by 23/24. and have the rest of his life after that. all the best of luck to him. good boy! his dad looks impressed. good for him.
This reminds me of Harvard internally giving unreasonably low score on the personality of Asian applicants. But the question of which personality is better itself is questionable. In this case, the Google managers and his future colleagues met him in person, holding hours-long talking with him. They know him much better than the 16 colleges who judge people by a short essay.
Yah personality score is basically a way to get the class diversity you want. Asians all have bad personalities apparently and the other minorities they want to admit all have high personality scores.
Good for him, this is a huge blessing in disguise! Degrees don't matter anymore. There are plenty of recent college grads with comp sci/SWE degrees who struggle to even find an internship. What matters more nowadays is work experience. He dodged a bullet!
Yeah, let's not go so far as to say degrees don't matter. They still give a leg up. It's just that they're not as important in the IT sector where certifications, a portfolio of work, and other things like participating in coding contests and networking can go a long way.
@@ruleaus7664 Sorry, I should've been more clear. I meant that in the context of being a SWE. You don't need a degree for that. Ofc for other majors you do...
Degrees absolutely matter when you are applying for a job online. They receive so many applications online that bots are filtering out people who don't have the minimum requirement for a degree before a human being even sees it. I would say connections matter a lot as it always has. You have a great chance at a job if you know someone who speaks highly of you within the company.
It’s a blessing in disguise. Life is full of tests and clearly Stanley passed the test. Things don’t always go the way you wanted it to be, but if you can look on the positive side, it’ll always turn out for the better. I had something similar happen (not as impressive as this one).
I just show the news to my friend in Europe who just rejected by the Academy of Fine Arts Vienna. Now he is motivated again and decides to dedicate to his dream to be a politician. Thanks for the nice video!
I am just gonna say it. If this kid was any other race than Asian, he would be accepted to most of those colleges. It’s disheartening to see these kids “settle” with something less than they deserve. Although in this case, he got a great opportunity due to the circumstance. Go Stanley!
I've heard that a lot of these schools were criticized for accepting too many Asians so they were trying to limit how many Asians they accepted. I don't know if there's any truth to that, but it would be supremely messed up if that were true. My brother also had a 4-point-something GPA and a ton of extracurriculars but was rejected almost everywhere he applied to. I think he mentioned once that it probably was because he put half-Asian, after hearing about the rumors that schools are trying not to accept too many Asians. But in school we were taught that colleges appreciate diversity, even though our parents told us we should put that we're white if we want more opportunities.
@@time2livelifeit's very true and has been going on for many years. Kids of Asian descent are being punished for all their peers being so hard working in school. It's ridiculous. People have been fighting it for a long time now and it's why some people are pushing to remove affirmative action. One search and you'll find lots of articles on kids being denied when they apply as Asian and then accepted when they apply as another ethnicity
This story should not end here. ABC news should visit these 16 big name schools and asking them to discuss the requirements for admissions - not in this case particularly, but in general the requirements for admission, so the other young high school students may gain some insight and improve his or her chances to get into a big name, reputable school.
Heard of the girl who faked her personal statement and scandalized her mom to get into Penn? She got a Rhode scholarship even! What’s broken are these institutions, that’s why they admitted broken, fragile, traumatized people… even the fake ones. I honestly think they don’t deserve Stanley. Win for Google.
So proud of the kid and the dad. He is a lucky high school graduate who got offer from google. Best wishes for him and his family. Think of some great students who are not that lucky makes my heart broke. In the long run, a country if it wants to stay competitive, government and universities should know give these kids opportunities and put resources on them is so important. We want to walk in safe tall buildings, we want to step in safe airplanes, the patients need high quality doctors, we want to drive on safe bridges… The lists go on and on! These great students are our future.
Reach the stars son!!!! You have just risen the standards to a whole new level when it comes to education. I can’t fathom how you got rejected. Crazy!!! I don’t think I want to put my daughter through that. She’s mixed race too, 😢. It all comes down to money and scholarships.
It's 100k people with a 4.2 GPA applied to those 16 colleges for a total of 4000 spaces. This isn't hard to understand. I had a 4.2 weight GPA It's good, but it's not exceptional for elite colleges - It's baseline.
Degrees do matter, but it is exposure to many disciplines and a variety of people in the student and faculty population that really imprint upon still very young students. Bravo!
Please stop with shit this is the type of stuff I saw as a middle schooler, and thought was deep, but now as senior am regretting listening to these brain dead comments, so badly. Young Kids please take school seriously don’t just barely pass but try your best to get straight As, because if you aim for the starts at least you land on the moon.
Not really. His 4.42 isn't special these days. I was rank 42/660 at my school with a 4.48 GPA, 17 AP classes, and a 1590 on the SAT. I got rejected by a lot of top colleges, but got into many as well. Considering how easy it is for every kid nowadays to apply through Common App, people need to realize they're not the only high achieving students and that essays and differentiation actually matter. Also, his dad works as a software engineering manager at Google, so guess where the connection is.
@@bigbigdog it's not hard to pass the interview if you grind Leetcode and can explain essential data structures. The hardest part is getting to the interview stage itself even if you have a stunning resume, which he easily got. The resume stage helps clear that you know more fundamentals (usually by attending a well-accredited university) and have extensive experience and projects, but many aren't lucky and get auto-rejected by the algo
I had a GPA of 3.9 I believe out of high school, and I'm in my early 40s now.... was pretty much rejected by decent colleges when trying to apply as well. Parents didn't support or cared what I did mind you, which was pretty tough. Ended up in Community College, though, had to work to make a living since I was living an apartment, etc... unfortunately, I didn't finish school and felt guilty. Have a decent job in medical, though not really happy. 😕
same here did community college and graduated but felt better doing online classes, since the university i went to didn't have online only i dropped out. GF left me cause she thought I'd be a bum, jokes on her I learned skills online and do ok for myself. (I downloaded syllabi from Ivy League schools in the subjects I wanted to learn, then read the books/textbooks they listed in the syllabi) very time consuming but learned alot!
there's a lot of bias... I got decent grades not 4..0 but got 2 college degrees and still can't get a job. They hire based on looks and social status. They figure they can always teach you the stuff onsight. They just want people that are social and good sales people. Even if you're engineers they want all staff to be able to sell an image of the company to the public.
geez black people have been going thru this for so long and now that the pages have turned “others” want to whine about it and be like why me😂 lol what did y’all say when black peoples were going thru this? OH, stop feeling victimized because you’re ASAIN or WHITE.. that’s not why they rejected you 🤷♀️
16 colleges LOST out on a great young man. Thats ok! They all just did him a HUGE favor!! Who really needs college anyway for most jobs? I have so many friends and family members with degrees who DONT use them.
The luckiest high schooler in America rn. Google software engineer at 18 with ZERO college tuition (1 of the 4 largest debt burdens for Americans: home, wedding, auto, school loan). I envy him haha great job young man. Great job.
trust me, his dad/family has all the college money ready to get him through four years of any top university. If he got into Stanford at full price, he would mortgage his house be sure he got through. Facts.
I believe more companies should consider looking at high school graduates who have good grades, like Stanley, and hire in directly. That definitely saves a lot of money and no student debt to boot. I think some of those elite colleges are kind of overblown, and other colleges, like University of Texas, should have the same caliber as those "Ivy League" colleges.
I would feel awful if I were a college student watching this and had lower admissions qualifications, knowing the only reason I got in was to meet a quota.
Good for you Stanley! Life goes on and you have a lot going for you even though it’s not what people traditionally expect from life after high school. Keep it up! It’ll be interesting to see what he ends up doing four years from now.
@tokki8070 he's humble the way he speaks. If he makes 6 figures right now he could retire before 25 years old. He's got the rest of his life in front of him! At 18 I flunked out of tafe and worked in a grocery store earning min wage. I don't regret it, I'm 22/23 now and can't retire until I'm dead. I don't make a lot but I'm alive. Existing, I'm actually not doing too bad.
Happy for this kid, and I hope big techs takes this to the next level and hire more highschool grads, and create a training/program to help them advanced with experience with advanced technologies. I've learned way more since college, and my college education didn't help me learn that tech stuff.
That's awesome man. It's really inspiring to see people like you being authentically yourself and doing what you love. You're proof that doing right by yourself and pursuing what makes you happy is what will get you to thrive in this life and not some peace of paper that you pay for to define your worth and abilities. Amazing 💪🏾💯
Honestly, college is such a scam you’re better off getting an internship after high school and gaining valuable experience, get your degree on the side, but 4 years for JUST schooling? Nah, I’m getting that check
Yeah, as if it were that easy to even get the internship and first job to begin with. This kid starting coding when he was 10, so it makes sense that it wasn't so hard for him by the time he graduated high school. Most of us don't find our path that soon.
Good for him. The lost is the UC schools. This is what I call blessing in disguise. Good for him. He will do well and succeed. I bet these schools would want him later.
The reason why this happened is because of how insanely competitive his high school was compared to almost any other. Gunn High School is a region of some of the wealthiest and most highly educated people in the country, making everything insanely competitive. My sister went to Palo Alto High School (considered less competitive and difficult) and her high school program was harder than her EECS degree studies at UC Berkeley. It's no wonder he got rejected from those universities, he's competing against people who all have insanely high SAT scores and GPAs! Perhaps it's for the better, as he got a great job without it, and clearly knows enough to have earned a CS degree if he was offered a job without one.
In California, both the UC and Cal State school system should have gone to a race blind system back in the 90's. (Clearly not in this case) That's why those Asian parents sued Harvard and others over colleges admission discrimination over race and went all the way to the Supreme Court.
True. I come from a low income asian american community and now work with kids in the same community that goes to school with mostly asians and hispanic/latinos. Smart kids yes, but pales in comparison with Stanley and yet they are getting into all the UCs and usually the ones who are top 3 of their respective high schools would get into Ivies.
The story's not as they framed it in the title though. He got into University of Texas, which does have a top 10 CS program, as well as the University of Maryland, which also offers a great CS degree. His stats aren't that much better than other top students at most state high schools. His dad also works as a software engineering manager at Google, so this isn't just random.
@rbae BS. We should acknowledge the systematic racism against Asian students in this country and take actions to make sure qualified students arrive at the right place. The AA BS needs to go.
@@austinhxiao not sure how to otherwise lyk, but you weren't gonna get in if you were white instead. I'm also Asian, and I got accepted into multiple CS programs better than those I got rejected for, which objectively might not make sense....but sometimes you're just not a fit for the school and your essays don't match what they want on campus. Not to mention this kid has pretty average stats for those that get into these colleges with 5% and lower acceptance rates. Not to mention that AA just got removed, so it doesn't even matter now - legacy admissions are what you should be against.
How did he get rejected by so many schools? Genuinely shocking how good his gpa and sat scores are and yet he still go rejected by so many schools. How?
He was probably rejected because of the idea that this student is so good that they’ll go with another college that’s probably better so they end up rejecting him. Colleges have a certain quota to fill and don’t want to waste it on someone who’ll probably not pick them. But it creates an issue like this, a great student who got 0/16 college acceptances. Glad Google acknowledge his talent and employed him.
to elaborate on this "quota", it can be a negative reflection on the college if there is a high number of students who they admit but choose not to enroll. it really shows the complex lengths that these schools go through to maintain their image of prestige and exclusivity haha.
Very mature, well-spoken young man. Stanley's stats are impressive. It would be interesting to read his college application essay, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE WAS REJECTED BY SO MANY SCHOOLS.
Interesting how your kind brings up diversity based hiring yyet it's crickets when 99% of the company board , c suite and staff are white you say nothing , do yourself and favor and say nothing
Y’all these are hard colleges in general to get into and affirmative action is no longer allowed, stop blaming people of color for the failure. Elite schools are all about who you know and rarely what.
@@calvinhoward3808 No. Every college has diversity quota in the name of equal opportunity. Also, the are women only or specific race and religious based colleges.
It’s important to know that this situation is akin to winning the lottery. And I’m glad that his father mentioned that this is not something that happens to most high school grads. BUT I do think a college degree should not be a requirement for a job or a basis for how much to pay someone. I also think other training programs, like for trades, should be presented as another amazing option for young people. I am wondering what his application looked like because he didn’t just apply for Ivy League schools. I also think application feedback would be very helpful for everyone.
Application feedback will not work, the school will never admit that they are pursuing clout and money over academic prowess. They'll just make stuff up to confuse you further.
again THIS IS WHY black people celebrated the overturn of "affirmative actions" in college admission. IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS will go back to its natural order: it will look like 17th century colleges in the USA. 1%ers + white males. ......🔥🔥👍🔥 for decades the #1 enemy of black students were white liberal moms and Asian moms = his mom could not blame affirmative action.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 He will sit in Google awkward because he probably never been outside to socialized; only study to get a perfect SAT score. 4.0 and 1600 SAT score are red flags.♦ this is why they ask for high school extra curriculum; to show you were a normal socialized teen. you were not spending 5, 6, 12 hours studying. = it means you are just fcking dumb in real life.😁😆 natural intelligent high school students; do not spend hours studying | without cracking the book. They can get a B... just by attending class and listening to the lesson. 🧠 this brilliant mind is what the Universities want. The population is filled with NEPO babies + legacy babies ..75% of it.
Stanford isn’t Ivy, though it is considered prestigious. While I agree with transparency in the admission process, there seems to be details missing from this story, and I’m sure the story is much more nuanced than what’s being presented. They’re framing it like he just so happened to apply to Google and got a job. Given the area that he’s from, there’s someone or ones he already knew at Google that he personally advocated for him to get a position. Also, contextually, he likely went to a high school where his achievements don’t stand out. If you look at the census data, ~80% of the residents have a bachelors degree and the typical house values at 3mil. He’s skilled, and this doesn’t take away from his accomplishments, but I wonder how many students from that area… from his high school applied to the same schools and had similar accomplishments. The reality is that you’re not just competing against an international pool of applicants who are all top students from their schools, Your stiffest competition are the students from your area. So if hundreds or thousands of high school students from the Bay Area applied to those same schools… they all have high GPA’s and SAT scores, and 40% of them already had startups before graduation bc their parents work in tech, his accomplishments may seem more average. There are only so many open spots, so just because someone looks good on a paper, does not mean that they are automatically accepted, Colleges aim for diversity in thought, so there is likely a quota of how many students they accept from specific high schools and areas in the nation. While there is a misleading agenda about admissions and diversity, the person who probably got his spot was: - His teammate from either or both competitions who was able to explain their contribution or skills marginally better - A student from the team that made it to the finals - the student from his high school who engages in social entrepreneurship - the legacy student My hypothesis is that many of those students might have applied to the same universities and safety schools. And although he has opportunities available to him that the avg student doesn’t have, I have empathy for receiving continuous rejections from schools. Depending on the reception of this story… this could be a pilot for Google and other major tech companies to create or normalize a few highly competitive programs or pipelines to their workforce where students highly skilled in coding could apply for entry level positions as an alternative to going to traditional university.
If Stanley is already qualified to work for Google, no need for him to waste time and money doing something that is pointless. I'm sure he will set a great example in his workplace that it's really all about what someone can do, not just what they know.
One more time, an education does not make you either smart or capable. It just makes you knowledgeable. Which anyone can achieve by reading and doing .
@@chibbashe kept apologizing saying I don't want to make you feel bad because you didn't get into school. She's one of those people that judge somebody by where they went for college. That's very annoying because this kid crushed it!
I am glad that things worked out for this very bright young man. I agree that transparency is critical. As a Midwesterner I was disappointed with the reporter who listed most of the coast schools, but never mentioned the "fly over" schools, which are known to be excellent. That felt like coastal bias.
3.97 unweighted and 4.42 weighted GPA, scoring 1590 out of 1600 on the SAT and can't go into any 1 of 16??? what else does this asian kid have to prove???? Very unfair.
Congratulations Stanley! Outstanding. Make the most of it. You’re in the perfect position. You can get to where you’re making GREAT money, and when you do go to any school to take a class or two, it can be on something unique that interests you beyond programing. Pottery, philosophy, learning Swahili. I envy you!
Your inclusion of philosophy reveals your ignorance on education and the relevance of its subjects. You clearly have no idea how science and the scientific method came about.
@@inelhuayocan_aci What on earth are you talking about? I think you’re on the wrong thread. The scientific method is only relevant when and where it’s relevant. I don’t see you losing your mind over pottery or Swahili. And labeling people - telling us what we are or are not, or what we know or don’t know, is hella arrogant. I have a doctorate, btw, so you picked the wrong hill to die on. Grow up and read a wider variety of books. If you read at all.
GREAT JOB, STANLEY. YOU SAVE OVER $100K IN COLLEGE TUITION and got an excellent job at Google!
USCs cost of attendance is $90k a year 😂 so he potentially saved like $400k
A "good" job that will low ball him because of his lacking education. This isnt a flex at all
@@Jennifer-fj4wf not necessarily when being in that industry. He seems to have a lot of IT knowledge under his belt. It’s the skills they’ve developed wether they learned it from school or otherwise that matters to these companies. Also, did you completely miss them saying he developed an app while he was in middle school and was in coding competition for google? Let’s not discount his skills. Negotiating a higher salary can also be revisited and renegotiated anytime
@@Jennifer-fj4wfnot true at all. If he works hard, learns and shows he is dependable then he will continue to rise in the company.
@@Jennifer-fj4wf yeah, definitely not a "good" job that pays him 185k a year.
Go Stanley! You now have a 4 year head start and debt free. The field of computer science is changing ever so much that I am sure Google would be a far better environment for you to develop. If you persist on your hard work and learn to collaborate with people well, I am sure great things would happen to you. Kudos to your father/family for supporting you. Your story is inspiring!
Dam…..imagine having google on your resume……it’s a far reaching dream for most ppl.
Amazing how some people can fulfill their dreams without a college degree
It helps when your father is a high-level manager there lol
Google isn't randomly hiring high schoolers w/o a degree off the streets. I'm sure this dude deserves it and is smart enough, but without that family connection this wouldn't be a news story
@@silverdragon2462wait for real? That would make a heck ton of sense... generally though, in my opinion I think the computer science field, at least career-wise, is dying.
the problem is that if he gets laid off, he will need a college degree
Going straight to Google and skipping college tuition and fees? I see this as an absolute win!
It is nice, but it won't work for most. I think he has connections with someone at Google. If you don't have that connection, it makes it difficult for some kid to get hired by Google. Probably would not even make it to an interview.
I swear he probably has family members/friends at Google. There is no way Google would hire him if they just met him. But if he has insane networking props to him.
@@stardestroyer1610 His dad is a manager at Google. They left that part out in the story. He's a smart kid no doubt, but he would get ignored if not for his dad pulling the strings. Would not even get an interview.
College is so much more fun than Google, he'd rather have went to college
It helps when your dad is the "Software Engineering Manager" at Google. I'm sure that had nothing to do with it. These kids today expect to go straight to the top without any work experience or paying their dues.
Most people who go to those colleges can only dream to work at Google. Good for him!
He is L4 at Google. Most fresh grads who are good enough to get into Google is hired at level L3. He is one level above.
Nah. Not “Most people who go to those colleges can only dream to work at Google.” /
Ehhh not to discredit him, but I know multiple people who went to almost non known cheap colleges who got jobs at Google. However, Google is an amazing company from what they’ve told me, pay very well, with amazing benefits. And luckily, they look more at peoples skills rather than college degrees, which is what everyone should do.
Whenever I have been on a Google campus (mostly X), I see a lot of 20-somethings milling around doing nothing. An MIT or Princeton grad would not want to work in that environment. People who do nothing all day generally want to mess with people who are productive. The only thing Google is good at is selling advertising. That supports are their failed initiatives; too many to list here. Lol
Corporations don't care about your Programming or Software Engineering degree. They care about your skills and knowledge of programming. This news report acts like majorless programmers are hired once in a blue moon.
I know Stanely! He is a great kid, really smart, humble, and spent a lot of time volunteering to teach kids Computer Science. It was disappointing to hear that he was rejected from so many schools, but I've no doubt he will go on to do even more amazing things!
Thank Affirmative Action, reverse racism
Was he very popular in school or a nerd
@@javiruiz8365 LMAO
Says a lot about these colleges, doesn't it.
On the one hand, it's a good thing that he didn't waste his time and money on college because what he wants to do doesn't actually require a degree. On the other, literally the only reason he was rejected from those schools is because he's Asian.
I cannot believe Cal Poly rejected him?! What a loss to all the schools who rejected Stanley! Stanley is such an excellent young man. It’s Google’s win to hire this brilliant young man.
Its cause hes asian they have quota to meet
Either his teacher recs said poor things about him, or his essay really sucked.
@@vitaminamulti its affirm action, every group has priority over him, some by over 5x percentage chance
maybe - but if even the lowest rankgin school rejected him.. ther emust have been somethign wrong with his application. again, he seems like a great kdi wth promising talent.. but sounds liek he messed up his application. can't necessatily blame race on this one. you see affirmative action at most competitive schools liek MIT, but not so much at lower ranking schools... if he's so great, then he should have no problem getting into his safety. probably overly "crafted" his application essays... @@CandiceWalker-ce9ps
@@vitaminamulti affirmative action says hi
I know Stanley from school! I met him one day during practice for our school Cross Country team, and ever since then he's always come off as such a kind and courageous person. He deserves all of this so much and I'm super happy for him and his family. I still get to see him pretty often, which also gets to be a huge gift for me as well. LETS GO STANLEYY!
You are so lovely.
You are any amazing friend. Stanley is sure blessed to know you and have your support. Congratulations Stanley! 🎉
Simp
It just shows the state of college corruption in the us. He’s obviously smarter than what it takes to be enrolled at any of them, and it’s their loss. Good for him for going straight to work for google, and good for them for providing opportunities to intelligent and competent people like this.
Factors that may have affected him? He's from a rich area & his family is wealthy & the fact he's Asian. College applications in America ask the most outrageous questions.
No, a lot of the schools he applied to are reaches for computer science for most. You could mean the state of corporate corruption. Zhong's dad's position is software engineering manager at Google, which most fail to mention
@@rbaeare you his Asian neighbor who has a failed kid 😆
@@austinhxiao nah, he's not that special compared to other applicants who got admitted to these universities with a 5% acceptance rate or lower. For example, I was rank 42/660 at my school (top 3 HS in the state) with a 4.48 GPA and 17 AP classes and a 1590 on the SAT. I got rejected by a lot of top colleges, but got into many as well. Considering how easy it is for every kid nowadays to apply through Common App, people need to realize they're not the only high achieving students and that essays and differentiation actually matter.
@@austinhxiao for ex., as a CS major, I got into Georgia Tech (one that rejected this kid), Cornell, Purdue, and UW Seattle but got rejected from UMich and Vanderbilt, the two which are lower ranking in CS than the others listed. Sometimes you're just not a fit for their school or you didn't write the most appealing essay to convince the admins 🤷♂️ sometimes you're just not special or appealing enough for them, and that's ok
Super proud of this kid; Really goes to show how dumb the college admissions process is.
It cause he’s Asian
Not dumb, they just have to cave in to the other races to make them look good. If he was the other race they would've begged him to come and be on the front page of the MSM.
California affirmative action is hurting Asian students the most. My son is also a victim of affirmative action.
I mean, if his competition is with other Asians who also have 4.0’s but all you did was study for that 4.0, well it doesn’t cut it. What if the other people also had 4.0’s and maybe 3.7’s, 3.8’s etc but had to overcome challenges, who are you going to pick? The Asian who has a 4.0 with nothing else to show or the Asians with 4.0’s but a story of how they overcame those challenges? Or the Asians who also have extra curricular activities, volunteer etc I mean you can give me the old bs of “I would choose him because he’s smart” but unfortunately, that’s not all it takes sometimes. I unfortunately am not all that impressed by someone who had straight A’s because all he did was sit in a room and study when there are other lads who also got good grades but did so much more with their time.
@@467076 If he was black all Ivy League schools would’ve begged him to attend.
2:05: “Feel worse”? No, this young person got the last laugh: no tuition payments, fast tracked into a career. Work hard young, man. Others are watching and your experience might incentivize others to dream big. Best wishes😊
A black lesbian stole his college spot, only to come out of college burning down her own neighborhood in anger, while the legit smart Asians continue to build, invent, and be great Americans. There is a difference in IQ, it is biological.
This is a story for old people who don't know better that won't be able to resist not watching and say what you just said. There's MANY positions at Google, he'll be at one of the bottom ones and paid probably the least.
@@OregonCrow No.
@@OregonCrow even so, one can always work their way up and increase their salary.
Yes, the only point of going to school is getting a job at Google. We should just do away with all subjects in school that aren't conducive to this outcome, and stop requiring education for children who could never hope to land such a job. It's pointless. Do you like literature? Useless. Do you like history? Useless. English? Useless. Unless you get multiple six figures at Google, you are worthless, and no education should have been wasted on you.
He doesnt need college-hes already brilliant by his own knowledge. College cant offer something HE naturally has.
They look at him as piece of clay that they can mold perfectly to suit their company, as opposed to someone who goes to a prestigious school, with unrealistic expectations for the jobs they apply to. He’ll do good in life 👍🏻
It's true that he doesn't NEED college, but one of the standard requirements that a lot of companies do follow is having a degree from a post-secondary institution. I'm not trying to say that that's how it should be, but I am saying that is how it currently is.
Lots of good students got rejected so there’s space for those who are underprivileged. But eventually those cannot survive but drop out. That’s why many can transfer to the university from community college to junior classes.
Actually, he NEEDS a college diploma. Any job he ever applies for past Google is going to be rejected because the auto job sorting system is going to dump his application thinking he is a janitor at Google. ( and no dis to janitors )
@@bobroberts2371 not hard to get a diploma now days to get “promoted” or move to other company. You forget he’s going to be making money at 18 and if he needs to move on he will have the finances to. Companies as big as Google, he can easily get a diploma working and they will pay for it, especially if he has a lot of potential.
The kids is sharp, mature, very well spoken and seems like an all around great human being. Shame on MIT and Stanford!
My son is currently in the midst of his college applications, and he was feeling somewhat disheartened to learn that you had received rejection letters from 16 colleges. With a GPA of 4.37, he initially planned to apply to just his top 4 choices. However, your experiences have inspired him to broaden his horizons. Congratulations Stanley on securing a job at Google!
Tell your son to simply change his race or identify as trans.
@@junzilla13😂😂
@ Onstyle 1319 That's great! I'm happy for him!
@@junzilla13 i double up on this he only has to pretend to be trans for like a year until he gets in and then for the first month so he can get priority registration then he can be normal again
@@junzilla13 stfu. This is such an ignorant thing to say.
This is just a proof that you don't need formal education anymore. All the schools that rejected him, saved him
Hundreds of thousands
You’re HAWT!
Let me correct that by saying you don't need a formal education for a lot of IT jobs for which certifications, networking, and a portfolio of work can go a long way.
Let's clarify, that they didn't reject him to do him any favor. He overcame obstacles.
The dad works for Google for IT. He got his kid the job. The only reason he got a job was because of his dad. Google doesn't just hire people out of highschool to do software engineering jobs.
@@bebdaumon3948How do you know that?
I agree, there should be greater transparency and these universities need to be held accountable for any sort of discrimination that may be occurring
It's really mind boggling. He went above and beyond with competitions and creating his own software and he still didn't make? Meanwhile, other students with rich parents get in with nothing.
@@Kurry34 That's how the world works. He didn't write his own software company. He paid for website code that has the same functionality as docusign. There's people out there like me that actually write the code in template formats and sell them. There's code you can buy that has an exact replica of youtube. You can pay the price and then host it on your own server or lease a server and run it off there. you don 't have to be a programmer. There's also open source projects where you can download software for free that does these things and you just tweak it and swap out the graphics and use your own or pay an artist to make your website look custom. That is all he did. Anyone can do this and you don't need to a programmer or a software engineer. Docusign written their own code because there was no concept like that. The others replicated it and sold that code online to anyone wanting to pay for it. Some companies paid for functionalities to added it to their own website for their on employees and vendors. I doubt the kid touched any code other then configurated it and used his own graphics or paid someone to do it. just google docusign template code and youtube template code or buy code similar to youtube. You can find many that are fully customizeable.
@@Kurry34lmao you are so far off the mark. It’s not rich kids getting in these schools. It’s the right kind of minority getting accepted - black. Overachieving Asians are a dime a dozen.
He’s Asian, doesn’t appear to come from a broken home and likely doesn’t have a disability. That’s already 3 strikes against him!
Why even go to college when you can get a 6 figure job straight from high school. By the time his former classmates graduate he will be a big tech software engineer with 4 years of experience
This is an exceptional young man. Very brilliant, well spoken and possess skills most people don’t have until after undergrad. All of those schools were probably afraid they had nothing to teach him. It’s unfortunate that he will miss out on the traditional college experience.
I think he has a much more deeper experience coming. He can move up the ladder in google. Most likely making more than someone who graduated with a bachelor’s probably
Traditional colleges are not giving Asians a chance. Time to skip them.
He said he might reevaluate in a year, but I think the traditional college experience is overrated. I definitely don't miss it.
He will not have college debt to pay off for the next 10 years or more.
Colleges aren't 'afraid'. That's a positive spin on rejection due to race. Universities/colleges are businesses and want bragging rights for stats, culture and marketing....most Google employees; HS valedictorians,, etc..bill gates went here.
Had he gone to college, he would have been part of the statistics that show how much more you make by attending college. The truth is, these kids are already talented and driven BEFORE they step foot on campus.
Yup, kids that want to learn will learn. The fact the internet has made so much knowledge available in an instant and kids are still so lazy and stupid says something about culture and society. My friends and i actually had to go to a library and read books to learn to code
Stanley Zhong's father Nan Zhong is engineering manager at Google.
I can honestly say, after 17 years of college and study, working on 5 degrees and average colleges/universities; I had zero success. It sounds like you got a super job anyway and seem like a mature, well -rounded individual. It definitely matters what field of study you choose and skills, experience and connections are a key.
Why you didn't just do Healthcare degrees and then we all woukda lived longer too
That's pretty ridiculous, that SAT score is nuts and over 4.0 with AP courses is also top notch. Good for him putting those schools on blast.
Thats what happens when you're an Asian male in America.
It’s good, but a 4.2 gpa is pretty low compared to most students applying to those elite schools. A bunch of students who get in now have to aim for 4.5 and higher since college applications are getting harder each year. At my school, most students even thinking of applying to those schools are taking a lot more AP classes and college courses. Every year it’s getting more competitive to get into these top tier colleges because kids are taking harder and harder classes. 10 years ago, the top college in my state had a 60% acceptance rate and an average gpa of 3.9 w/ an average SAT score of 1230. Now the acceptance rate is 13% and the average sat score is 1490 lol. My brother got into that school in 2015 and went to the same high-school I’m currently in. The highest math the school offered at the time was pre calculus, now about 200/800 students in my grade are taking pre calculus during 10th grade 😂
@@bb4251No actually a 4.2 is not low, it depends on what grading scale you use. Some schools have only a 4.0 scale, some have a 5.0 scale, some have a 100 scale. There is no standardization of GPA systems in the country, you simply cannot just take a number from one high school at face value. Many colleges have their own process of standardizing GPAs these days or consider GPA in the context of a kid’s school. Because there is no way a “4.5” from one school is equal to a “4.5” at another school regardless.
His skin is not dark enough!
@@bb4251It’s not high enough for an Asian but it’s top 1% for Black or Mexican.
If universities went STRICTLY based on accomplishments, extracurriculars, GPA, and SAT score,
The top 20 schools in America would be filled with majority Asians.
Best of luck to this young man. He deserved a much better reception from the colleges he applied to. I hope that he one day sets foot on those campuses as an exalted guest lecturer, whose talks and classes the students flock to with more energy and excitement than the universities' own tenured professors. But the distress remains that there are many who are in a similarly unlucky position, who did not get an offer from Google - I wish them full success as well.
My daughter was in the same situation as you and most kids. She had a 4.2 GPA and didn’t get into any UC schools. She has worked so hard in HS was devastated when she didn’t get accepted. She is still struggling with it today. I agree there needs to be transparency in how these schools determine candidacy
Sad but now Asian need 4.5+ GPA to get accepted to UCs.
Well go back where you came from if you don’t like america
@@khale7180Affirmative action is gone now. You can stop complaining.
My daughter got 4.2 gpa was rejected by ucla, usc. She’s going to cal state Long Beach for pediatrician now. Sad, America doesn’t support hard working, just skin color. But that doesn’t stop Asian kids from achieving their goal. I’m glad because those big schools would’ve cost me way more for the same classes.
@@tonpun2988 Cal State Long Beach is literally the best Cal State University, bar Cal Poly. She’ll be okay.
Very grounded kid and parent. They pointed out something so basic and so obvious, but probably will never be addressed, sadly speaking. Also, good job by ABC to give them a forum to tell their story.
Kudos to this young man and his family. Wish you all the best!
Congratulations Stanley! I think this is a blessing in disguise. You don’t need to worry about college debt, maybe Google will even pay for it if you later want to go back. You have the will power to overcome difficulties, the world is yours! Best of luck!🎉
Love how this interview really highlights all of his accomplishments. It's amazing that he started his own startup as a sophomore in high school!
The state of college admissions is beyond awful and I totally feel for kids who are going through it. Stanley seems like a very capable young man but it is certainly unusual that google would hire someone without a degree (it looks like his dad works there?) so I don't think the focus of this story should be "hey there are other alternatives!". I absolutely agree that we need more transparency into college admissions as right now students don't have a clue who to apply to and how many applications they need to send in order to be accepted. None of the California schools would even take into account his amazing SAT score (which is wrong).
Stanley Zhong's father Nan Zhong is engineering manager at Google... he is indeed very capable
with the amount of people faking their academic career for jobs, its probably refreshing to hear someone who actually has drive to succeed and isn't using academics as a leverage.
@@iamdenislaraso he’s a nepo kid
@@iamdenislara
His father did not hire him.
And who says that networking in business and employment is a crime.⁉️
Ask Hunter 😑🤣
@@majayyyyy7882
SO?
Hunter isn't ⁉️😑
Let me explain a few things for people who are not in Palo Alto. Gunn High School is ranked #1 in California (my son is at Gunn), the level is very high and only a few kids from Gunn are admitted to other Colleges or Universities to respect a ratio. With a great GPA, Stanley didn't compete with other High School students from all over the country but high GPAs and ratios from Gunn. Students with lower GPAs from other High Schools in the country have better chances to be accepted. A good practice is to do 1 or 2 years of Community College before applying to big Colleges or Universities, chances to be accepted are way more higher and it's less expensive.
What is the point of going to the best high schools if that is eventually detrimental to going to a good college?
@@annamarielewis7078that's the negative point. But overall they offer a great education with great conditions (low number of students per classroom, sometime 2 teachers per classrooms, etc.). Also, students must go to their neighborhood's High School.
@@yannmasochplease. It’s all about money and diversity quotas.
@@dw309Yes, agree with you totally!
leave it to woke cali and woke admitting to come up with that idea
pander to people who don't try as hard
what the interview doesn't mention is that his father is an engineering manager at Google. that doesn't necessarily diminish stanley's coding skills and hard work that allowed him to pass the interview to earn the offer at Google. but, having a parent in the industry who could guide him growing up certainly gives him a certain amount of privilege compared to other kids.
Ah, that’s why he called it “our story” and corrected himself to “my story”….
That balances out his lack of privilege in college admissions. Elite colleges limit students of his ethnic background and particular type of DNA he was born with.
He did everything the system (college/uni/academic culture) told him he was supposed to do (high GPA, extracurricular, innovative) but was rejected due to race (too many Asians, the system says). I commend his father, his support, advocating for him.when others failed him. The kid still had to interview and pass those. His certainly wasn't 'privileged' enough to be admitted to the uni system
Even he get hired, he needs to know what is he doing…actually, computer science you can learn from internet and UA-cam nowadays…
@@fleur257It’s called nepotism, and yes. I’m sure he’s intelligent, deserves a good job, and his father did what any other parent would do in their position - but let’s not kid ourselves into thinking that this isn’t privilege, or that it’s not unfair to others in similar positions without a family member/friend to help them.
It is interesting that even with no affirmative action in public California institutions (since 1996) this young man didn’t get acceptance anywhere in the UC system. Colleges and universities might have to explain their admissions process and admit these metrics are only used to weed out candidates but their ultimate decisions are purely subjective. Let’s be honest, some of these schools are reading upwards of 70,000 applications per cycle. Are they even reading these applications and giving these students the consideration they deserve?
Easy to apply affirmative action when his last name is Zhong. That’s what’s sad about all this. Implicit bias will still influence the liberals who make admission decisions.
They definitely should!!!
Affirmative action never disappeared. It's still there even today.
It depends on the major he chose. These kind of kids are a dime a dozen at Berkeley. And Berkeley isn’t even the top school for computer science (3rd best after MIT, Stanford and maybe Carnegie Mellon, depending on the ranking system). FYI, Google isn’t the best paying tech company. It’s a layover company. Smaller tech companies pay more and offer stock options/RSU’s.
It's the essays, if he's writing something crazy or stupid and coming off as a psycho. They don't look at just the grades
My college app experience was very similar to him. Scored 1490 on the SAT; took 9 AP classes and never failed a single AP test. Wrote a compelling college essay that was approved by 3 English teachers. Played varsity sports 2/3 seasons. Yet, in the end, I was rejected from 10/11 schools. Even Ohio State didn't accept me and that was supposed to be one of my safe picks. I don't want to say that being Asian is the cause for my experience, but I have no doubt that it is a factor. It's quite a shame because as this video highlights, there's very little transparency within the whole process. I often think about how different my life would be if one of those schools had taken the chance on me.
This guy had 1590. College matters. But it doesn’t matter that much. Keep top grade in college. Take tough major. You be fine.
You said so many things that amounted to such little coherence. And yes, what school you go to does have a major impact on life trajectory. You can debate me all day on this topic but it's simply fact.@@marys.1361
America is simply not on your side bro
There is a possibility that Ohio State rejected you because they thought you were overqualified. Look up "yield rate." This is only a theory/suspicion, but I have heard of instances where this occurs.
Possibly. I won't deny that what you mentioned may have occurred. However it would be quite surprising. I can't really fathom the logic behind it. @@snaeshaads8203
At this point, doesn’t really matter what he did academically. To be a software engineer, you don’t really need to go to school. A lot of the time we think that school will help us, when it dumbs us down a bit. He’s being thrusted into an environment that will foster his abilities to think outside the box. That’s what tech companies look for anyway.
On top of his brilliance, I can tell he has a strong work ethic and will to succeed which will take him far.
He got the job through Google by being prepared for his blessing. No luck involved. Preparation met the opportunity and he jumped on it. Stay the course. More to come.
You don't need schooling to be a programmer but for software engineering and computer science, you absolutely need a deep understanding of math.
@@AmoebaCultureyeah not many people understand that. The network is always changing and be in a fast paste. Companies cares about how you fix a problem that is all. No piece of paper is going to impress them
Yeah exactly, dumbs people down and indoctrinated them with a false, Far Left world view!
Discrimination against Asians actually. Us Asians need to stand together and fight systematic racism from colleges.
Another Googler here, from the Cloud as well. Welcome! Talented people are talented people, with a graduate degree or without. Passing the contests and the interviews obviously means you have a good college-level grasp on Computer Science. There's a lot of folks here coming from different science (Physics, Chem, Math) backgrounds, including me. What's important, is the passion for coding, and being a good team member.
ya I meet so many super smart people who didn't go to college for a number of reasons. Either they came from families with extremely limited resources and had to work out of HS to support the family, their parents aren't here legally so they have trouble getting loans and stuff like that, or they're first generation American and think college isn't for "people like us" sort of deal. I know super smart people who had to drop out cause they couldn't afford it and didn't want to take out loans but were getting strait A's. I never judge anyone by lack of degree after working with these people.
They reject students like him, (who by the way, seems to have incredible extracurriculars) but are more than happy to take legacy admissions. Just shameful.
UC schools and state schools in general don't have legacy admits and he still go rejected by them too.
This case is far more nefarious than just Legacy/Affirmaction
He's a whiz kid and couldn't get in even at state schools. It looks like people are specifically trying to keep him out for some reason. Maybe they see the potential in him, and they don't want him to succeed out of jealousy--they probably let in more of the "do things by the book" Asian kids
Apparently his father works at google -- no legacy influence there.
Aren't some Asians suing some Ivy League schools right now because they are being discriminated against? Most schools have gotten to "woke." Grades, scores, extracurricular activities, reference letters, essays are the only factors now. I bet if he put certain pronouns and a different race he would have gotten into most of those schools. There have been many news stories about those things happening much more than in the past. The schools are doing a disservice to everyone when they accept students for the wrong reasons. I forgot to add Alumni kids and Benefactor kids in the group.
College is not for everyone. He is a very good example. Imagine making $250K before he turns 19.
Where’s did it say he’s making 250k
More like 130-150 for data analyst/scientist
@@chrissypoo69 oh my goodness he's just too young. time is on his side no need to rush he could retire by 23/24. and have the rest of his life after that. all the best of luck to him. good boy! his dad looks impressed. good for him.
This reminds me of Harvard internally giving unreasonably low score on the personality of Asian applicants. But the question of which personality is better itself is questionable. In this case, the Google managers and his future colleagues met him in person, holding hours-long talking with him. They know him much better than the 16 colleges who judge people by a short essay.
Wrong ethnicity. That's why. Too many Chinese kids are rejected to make room for others.
Yah personality score is basically a way to get the class diversity you want. Asians all have bad personalities apparently and the other minorities they want to admit all have high personality scores.
1590 and didn’t get into the university of Wisconsin… something is very broken in this country, something is very wrong
He got the best of both worlds: working for Google and enrolling for a bachelor at Stanford partime with Google paying for the tuition fees.
Good for him, this is a huge blessing in disguise! Degrees don't matter anymore. There are plenty of recent college grads with comp sci/SWE degrees who struggle to even find an internship. What matters more nowadays is work experience. He dodged a bullet!
Yeah, let's not go so far as to say degrees don't matter. They still give a leg up. It's just that they're not as important in the IT sector where certifications, a portfolio of work, and other things like participating in coding contests and networking can go a long way.
@@ruleaus7664 Sorry, I should've been more clear. I meant that in the context of being a SWE. You don't need a degree for that. Ofc for other majors you do...
They matter it's all about what you're trying to achieve in life.
Degrees absolutely matter when you are applying for a job online. They receive so many applications online that bots are filtering out people who don't have the minimum requirement for a degree before a human being even sees it. I would say connections matter a lot as it always has. You have a great chance at a job if you know someone who speaks highly of you within the company.
It’s a blessing in disguise. Life is full of tests and clearly Stanley passed the test.
Things don’t always go the way you wanted it to be, but if you can look on the positive side, it’ll always turn out for the better.
I had something similar happen (not as impressive as this one).
I agree with you. Transparency is the key.
He seems well spoken, not just nerdy. He looks as matured as me in my mid twenties.
I just show the news to my friend in Europe who just rejected by the Academy of Fine Arts Vienna. Now he is motivated again and decides to dedicate to his dream to be a politician.
Thanks for the nice video!
That is really dark. 🤣
I am just gonna say it. If this kid was any other race than Asian, he would be accepted to most of those colleges. It’s disheartening to see these kids “settle” with something less than they deserve. Although in this case, he got a great opportunity due to the circumstance. Go Stanley!
I've heard that a lot of these schools were criticized for accepting too many Asians so they were trying to limit how many Asians they accepted. I don't know if there's any truth to that, but it would be supremely messed up if that were true. My brother also had a 4-point-something GPA and a ton of extracurriculars but was rejected almost everywhere he applied to. I think he mentioned once that it probably was because he put half-Asian, after hearing about the rumors that schools are trying not to accept too many Asians. But in school we were taught that colleges appreciate diversity, even though our parents told us we should put that we're white if we want more opportunities.
@@time2livelifeit's very true and has been going on for many years. Kids of Asian descent are being punished for all their peers being so hard working in school. It's ridiculous. People have been fighting it for a long time now and it's why some people are pushing to remove affirmative action. One search and you'll find lots of articles on kids being denied when they apply as Asian and then accepted when they apply as another ethnicity
Do you have to put your race in the application?
its really Asian international students that they are competing against. And almost all of them want to study engineering and cs.
Well there’s no more affirmative action. And here we go about race again. Ok make it make sense.
This story should not end here. ABC news should visit these 16 big name schools and asking them to discuss the requirements for admissions - not in this case particularly, but in general the requirements for admission, so the other young high school students may gain some insight and improve his or her chances to get into a big name, reputable school.
Chinese and dogs not allowed.
Step 1. Be Black / Mexican
Step 2. Come from a broke family.
Step 3. Have a 3.2 weighted GPA
Profit. Get into any school
@saanvisharma18basically, if you’re Asian you’re at a massive disadvantage for these schools
Heard of the girl who faked her personal statement and scandalized her mom to get into Penn? She got a Rhode scholarship even! What’s broken are these institutions, that’s why they admitted broken, fragile, traumatized people… even the fake ones. I honestly think they don’t deserve Stanley. Win for Google.
@@visigoth3696and I’m sure that the thousands of Asians who got in would completely agree with you…not!!!
So proud of the kid and the dad. He is a lucky high school graduate who got offer from google. Best wishes for him and his family. Think of some great students who are not that lucky makes my heart broke. In the long run, a country if it wants to stay competitive, government and universities should know give these kids opportunities and put resources on them is so important. We want to walk in safe tall buildings, we want to step in safe airplanes, the patients need high quality doctors, we want to drive on safe bridges… The lists go on and on! These great students are our future.
Reach the stars son!!!! You have just risen the standards to a whole new level when it comes to education. I can’t fathom how you got rejected. Crazy!!! I don’t think I want to put my daughter through that. She’s mixed race too, 😢. It all comes down to money and scholarships.
It's 100k people with a 4.2 GPA applied to those 16 colleges for a total of 4000 spaces. This isn't hard to understand. I had a 4.2 weight GPA
It's good, but it's not exceptional for elite colleges - It's baseline.
This kid is a living proof that you dont need a degree to make it
No he's not. He's like a once in a generation genius. The majority of us need degrees
Degrees do matter, but it is exposure to many disciplines and a variety of people in the student and faculty population that really imprint upon still very young students. Bravo!
@@khanartist1 You still stupid when you got out.
He just got fired from google!!! 🤭
Please stop with shit this is the type of stuff I saw as a middle schooler, and thought was deep, but now as senior am regretting listening to these brain dead comments, so badly. Young Kids please take school seriously don’t just barely pass but try your best to get straight As, because if you aim for the starts at least you land on the moon.
This is why affirmative action shouldn't be a thing
This speaks more about the University's admission process than this kid and his job at Google.
Not really. His 4.42 isn't special these days. I was rank 42/660 at my school with a 4.48 GPA, 17 AP classes, and a 1590 on the SAT. I got rejected by a lot of top colleges, but got into many as well. Considering how easy it is for every kid nowadays to apply through Common App, people need to realize they're not the only high achieving students and that essays and differentiation actually matter.
Also, his dad works as a software engineering manager at Google, so guess where the connection is.
@@rbaeYou still need to pass the interview to get hire by Google. It's not like his dad is the CEO and can just hook him up just because.
@@bigbigdog it's not hard to pass the interview if you grind Leetcode and can explain essential data structures. The hardest part is getting to the interview stage itself even if you have a stunning resume, which he easily got. The resume stage helps clear that you know more fundamentals (usually by attending a well-accredited university) and have extensive experience and projects, but many aren't lucky and get auto-rejected by the algo
@@rbae LOL So how many offers did you get?
@@bigbigdog the same number of offers that came out of his behind.
HAHAHAH. College just got counter swiped. Good for him
Can’t blame Affirmative Action now.
I had a GPA of 3.9 I believe out of high school, and I'm in my early 40s now.... was pretty much rejected by decent colleges when trying to apply as well. Parents didn't support or cared what I did mind you, which was pretty tough. Ended up in Community College, though, had to work to make a living since I was living an apartment, etc... unfortunately, I didn't finish school and felt guilty. Have a decent job in medical, though not really happy. 😕
breathe
@@AnnaMeredith-e1m thank you for the encouraging word🙏 ❤️
same here did community college and graduated but felt better doing online classes, since the university i went to didn't have online only i dropped out. GF left me cause she thought I'd be a bum, jokes on her I learned skills online and do ok for myself.
(I downloaded syllabi from Ivy League schools in the subjects I wanted to learn, then read the books/textbooks they listed in the syllabi) very time consuming but learned alot!
Don't give up. You are still young and can still continue your education: degree or new skill. Best wishes
there's a lot of bias... I got decent grades not 4..0 but got 2 college degrees and still can't get a job. They hire based on looks and social status. They figure they can always teach you the stuff onsight. They just want people that are social and good sales people. Even if you're engineers they want all staff to be able to sell an image of the company to the public.
Congratulations!!!! Keep that dream alive . College alone can’t define a person’s success! Thank you GOOGLE!❤
geez black people have been going thru this for so long and now that the pages have turned “others” want to whine about it and be like why me😂 lol what did y’all say when black peoples were going thru this? OH, stop feeling victimized because you’re ASAIN or WHITE.. that’s not why they rejected you 🤷♀️
16 colleges LOST out on a great young man. Thats ok! They all just did him a HUGE favor!! Who really needs college anyway for most jobs? I have so many friends and family members with degrees who DONT use them.
He probably dont even need a college degree to be a software engineer, but he just wanted to get one anyways
I'm not going to say it - but, I think I know exactly why he got rejected by all those universities.
Because hi is Asian??
@@bk8415Because he's black
Because he's a virgin?
Bc there's no affirmative action.
@@fallenbeforefiona9000Probably this. You have to be a white woman to benefit from AA since the 80s.
Affirmative action never ended
Wow, it’s astounding that such a great student, was rejected by so many schools.
Diversity acceptance. Every group has a statistical advantage over Asians in admissions. Look at the Harvard case and the top decile data.
The luckiest high schooler in America rn. Google software engineer at 18 with ZERO college tuition (1 of the 4 largest debt burdens for Americans: home, wedding, auto, school loan). I envy him haha great job young man. Great job.
trust me, his dad/family has all the college money ready to get him through four years of any top university. If he got into Stanford at full price, he would mortgage his house be sure he got through. Facts.
I believe more companies should consider looking at high school graduates who have good grades, like Stanley, and hire in directly. That definitely saves a lot of money and no student debt to boot. I think some of those elite colleges are kind of overblown, and other colleges, like University of Texas, should have the same caliber as those "Ivy League" colleges.
wow he makes 200k right out of high school
+StocksSSS$$$$$$
no, closer to $120k pre-tax. Still very good.
Instead of 200K in debt.
@@AlphaMaleAnimalis definitely not under $85,000 - dead ass
@@rainbowpandasays8851guy is jealous lol
I would feel awful if I were a college student watching this and had lower admissions qualifications, knowing the only reason I got in was to meet a quota.
Good for you Stanley! Life goes on and you have a lot going for you even though it’s not what people traditionally expect from life after high school. Keep it up! It’ll be interesting to see what he ends up doing four years from now.
@tokki8070 he's humble the way he speaks. If he makes 6 figures right now he could retire before 25 years old. He's got the rest of his life in front of him! At 18 I flunked out of tafe and worked in a grocery store earning min wage. I don't regret it, I'm 22/23 now and can't retire until I'm dead. I don't make a lot but I'm alive. Existing, I'm actually not doing too bad.
Happy for this kid, and I hope big techs takes this to the next level and hire more highschool grads, and create a training/program to help them advanced with experience with advanced technologies. I've learned way more since college, and my college education didn't help me learn that tech stuff.
They are , only
The cream of the crop though
That's awesome man. It's really inspiring to see people like you being authentically yourself and doing what you love. You're proof that doing right by yourself and pursuing what makes you happy is what will get you to thrive in this life and not some peace of paper that you pay for to define your worth and abilities. Amazing 💪🏾💯
Now he gets to censor the hell out of those colleges.
Honestly, college is such a scam you’re better off getting an internship after high school and gaining valuable experience, get your degree on the side, but 4 years for JUST schooling? Nah, I’m getting that check
Yasss intership better then be jobless
Yeah, as if it were that easy to even get the internship and first job to begin with. This kid starting coding when he was 10, so it makes sense that it wasn't so hard for him by the time he graduated high school. Most of us don't find our path that soon.
@@ruleaus7664 these kids are going to get a hard lesson in the future.
I would be happy even more if colleges get shut down quickly
The only reason is that he is not minority in those people's eyes. You know their definition of the minority.
Good for him. The lost is the UC schools. This is what I call blessing in disguise. Good for him. He will do well and succeed. I bet these schools would want him later.
When they call him they better come with fellowships. These 7nivs are losers.
f that. he dont need them schools
The reason why this happened is because of how insanely competitive his high school was compared to almost any other. Gunn High School is a region of some of the wealthiest and most highly educated people in the country, making everything insanely competitive. My sister went to Palo Alto High School (considered less competitive and difficult) and her high school program was harder than her EECS degree studies at UC Berkeley. It's no wonder he got rejected from those universities, he's competing against people who all have insanely high SAT scores and GPAs! Perhaps it's for the better, as he got a great job without it, and clearly knows enough to have earned a CS degree if he was offered a job without one.
In California, both the UC and Cal State school system should have gone to a race blind system back in the 90's. (Clearly not in this case) That's why those Asian parents sued Harvard and others over colleges admission discrimination over race and went all the way to the Supreme Court.
No they needed more of another race to even out their numbers….
Yeah, right. Definitely not because he has the wrong skin color.
True. I come from a low income asian american community and now work with kids in the same community that goes to school with mostly asians and hispanic/latinos. Smart kids yes, but pales in comparison with Stanley and yet they are getting into all the UCs and usually the ones who are top 3 of their respective high schools would get into Ivies.
Did you even watch the video? 42 likes... shake my head.
The Asian penalty. :( Amazing. If he was black, he'd have been accepted to all 16 of these colleges!
I feel for this kid. Those are great stats. He should have been able to get 1 of those schools
The story's not as they framed it in the title though. He got into University of Texas, which does have a top 10 CS program, as well as the University of Maryland, which also offers a great CS degree. His stats aren't that much better than other top students at most state high schools. His dad also works as a software engineering manager at Google, so this isn't just random.
@rbae BS. We should acknowledge the systematic racism against Asian students in this country and take actions to make sure qualified students arrive at the right place. The AA BS needs to go.
@@austinhxiao not sure how to otherwise lyk, but you weren't gonna get in if you were white instead. I'm also Asian, and I got accepted into multiple CS programs better than those I got rejected for, which objectively might not make sense....but sometimes you're just not a fit for the school and your essays don't match what they want on campus. Not to mention this kid has pretty average stats for those that get into these colleges with 5% and lower acceptance rates.
Not to mention that AA just got removed, so it doesn't even matter now - legacy admissions are what you should be against.
@@rbaeI’ll bet a $100 dollars that you’re black and did you place in the top 4 on an MIT coding competition? This kid is Average? Stfu
It’s the college’s loss. He’s winning and will continue to win! Keep shining, Stanley!
That's so wholesome! You are a wonderful person!
We Asians need to fight for our rights in this country. In many cases, we are the ones to be discriminated.
👍👍👍👍👍 Straight out of high school and into a dream job. None of those colleges deserved you.
How did he get rejected by so many schools? Genuinely shocking how good his gpa and sat scores are and yet he still go rejected by so many schools. How?
racism.
Especially the state schools.
Asian don't tends to donate money to their schools.
Racism based on lies @@nigellei8591
Asian hate
Congratulations Stanley on getting hired by Google what an amazing company 🎉 many top college graduates wish they could land a job there
He was probably rejected because of the idea that this student is so good that they’ll go with another college that’s probably better so they end up rejecting him. Colleges have a certain quota to fill and don’t want to waste it on someone who’ll probably not pick them. But it creates an issue like this, a great student who got 0/16 college acceptances. Glad Google acknowledge his talent and employed him.
to elaborate on this "quota", it can be a negative reflection on the college if there is a high number of students who they admit but choose not to enroll. it really shows the complex lengths that these schools go through to maintain their image of prestige and exclusivity haha.
It all depends on race quota.
Very mature, well-spoken young man. Stanley's stats are impressive. It would be interesting to read his college application essay, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE WAS REJECTED BY SO MANY SCHOOLS.
Bro is gonna catch a case calling himself an engineer.
This is an outstanding young man. Thank god there are still places in which race is not the main selection criteria
Imagine olympics 100 meter sprint that is diversity quota based, 😂
Interesting how your kind brings up diversity based hiring yyet it's crickets when 99% of the company board , c suite and staff are white you say nothing , do yourself and favor and say nothing
Y’all these are hard colleges in general to get into and affirmative action is no longer allowed, stop blaming people of color for the failure. Elite schools are all about who you know and rarely what.
Like every college and university in America?
@@calvinhoward3808 No. Every college has diversity quota in the name of equal opportunity. Also, the are women only or specific race and religious based colleges.
Sorry, you have the right package, but wrong race.
How when most of the schools he applied for where in California (hasn't had AA since the 80's).
@@reuptojay it doesn't mean they don't have "holistic" LoL. Progressive culture is a scam. It'll fck this country up eventually.
@@reuptojay😂that's the part "they" can't even explain NOR except😂 let's see how the idiot responds with to the facts
Stop Asian Hate! Every one deserves the same opportunities regardless of the color of their skin.
It’s important to know that this situation is akin to winning the lottery. And I’m glad that his father mentioned that this is not something that happens to most high school grads. BUT I do think a college degree should not be a requirement for a job or a basis for how much to pay someone. I also think other training programs, like for trades, should be presented as another amazing option for young people. I am wondering what his application looked like because he didn’t just apply for Ivy League schools. I also think application feedback would be very helpful for everyone.
Application feedback will not work, the school will never admit that they are pursuing clout and money over academic prowess. They'll just make stuff up to confuse you further.
again THIS IS WHY black people celebrated the overturn of "affirmative actions" in college admission.
IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS will go back to its natural order: it will look like 17th century colleges in the USA. 1%ers + white males.
......🔥🔥👍🔥 for decades the #1 enemy of black students were white liberal moms and Asian moms =
his mom could not blame affirmative action.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
He will sit in Google awkward because he probably never been outside to socialized; only study to get a perfect SAT score.
4.0 and 1600 SAT score are red flags.♦ this is why they ask for high school extra curriculum; to show you were a normal socialized teen.
you were not spending 5, 6, 12 hours studying. = it means you are just fcking dumb in real life.😁😆
natural intelligent high school students; do not spend hours studying | without cracking the book. They can get a B... just by attending class and listening to the lesson. 🧠 this brilliant mind is what the Universities want. The population is filled with NEPO babies + legacy babies ..75% of it.
Stanford is Ivy.
Stanford isn’t Ivy, though it is considered prestigious.
While I agree with transparency in the admission process, there seems to be details missing from this story, and I’m sure the story is much more nuanced than what’s being presented. They’re framing it like he just so happened to apply to Google and got a job. Given the area that he’s from, there’s someone or ones he already knew at Google that he personally advocated for him to get a position.
Also, contextually, he likely went to a high school where his achievements don’t stand out. If you look at the census data, ~80% of the residents have a bachelors degree and the typical house values at 3mil. He’s skilled, and this doesn’t take away from his accomplishments, but I wonder how many students from that area… from his high school applied to the same schools and had similar accomplishments.
The reality is that you’re not just competing against an international pool of applicants who are all top students from their schools, Your stiffest competition are the students from your area. So if hundreds or thousands of high school students from the Bay Area applied to those same schools… they all have high GPA’s and SAT scores, and 40% of them already had startups before graduation bc their parents work in tech, his accomplishments may seem more average.
There are only so many open spots, so just because someone looks good on a paper, does not mean that they are automatically accepted, Colleges aim for diversity in thought, so there is likely a quota of how many students they accept from specific high schools and areas in the nation. While there is a misleading agenda about admissions and diversity, the person who probably got his spot was:
- His teammate from either or both competitions who was able to explain their contribution or skills marginally better
- A student from the team that made it to the finals
- the student from his high school who engages in social entrepreneurship
- the legacy student
My hypothesis is that many of those students might have applied to the same universities and safety schools. And although he has opportunities available to him that the avg student doesn’t have, I have empathy for receiving continuous rejections from schools.
Depending on the reception of this story… this could be a pilot for Google and other major tech companies to create or normalize a few highly competitive programs or pipelines to their workforce where students highly skilled in coding could apply for entry level positions as an alternative to going to traditional university.
agree@@ariesmry
Kudos to this young man. Getting into google at 18 with only a high school diploma speaks for itself!
his dad is a manager at google which they downplayed in the interview
If Stanley is already qualified to work for Google, no need for him to waste time and money doing something that is pointless. I'm sure he will set a great example in his workplace that it's really all about what someone can do, not just what they know.
One more time, an education does not make you either smart or capable. It just makes you knowledgeable. Which anyone can achieve by reading and doing .
How could this kid get rejected by all these schools?
What a brilliant kid! please fight for all other kids who were treated unfairly! don’t ever give up!
Outstanding young man, and his dad is too!
They deserved a better interviewer.
what's wrong with heR?
His voice sounds very mature.
@@chibbashe kept apologizing saying I don't want to make you feel bad because you didn't get into school. She's one of those people that judge somebody by where they went for college. That's very annoying because this kid crushed it!
It's probably because his dad isn't rich
Good for him, seems like the parents and his community fought for him
The way he talked already sounds brilliant, more mature than any kids his age. He will go far, good luck for him.
College admission is totally out of control! Transparency is much needed.
how can these schools say they don't like him cause he's asian
Perhaps I'm a little old but 1590 w/ 4.42 GPA and great extracurriculars couldn't get him into UCs?! WTF?!
I am glad that things worked out for this very bright young man. I agree that transparency is critical. As a Midwesterner I was disappointed with the reporter who listed most of the coast schools, but never mentioned the "fly over" schools, which are known to be excellent. That felt like coastal bias.
3.97 unweighted and 4.42 weighted GPA, scoring 1590 out of 1600 on the SAT
and can't go into any 1 of 16??? what else does this asian kid have to prove???? Very unfair.
Congratulations Stanley! Outstanding. Make the most of it. You’re in the perfect position. You can get to where you’re making GREAT money, and when you do go to any school to take a class or two, it can be on something unique that interests you beyond programing. Pottery, philosophy, learning Swahili. I envy you!
Your inclusion of philosophy reveals your ignorance on education and the relevance of its subjects. You clearly have no idea how science and the scientific method came about.
@@inelhuayocan_aci What on earth are you talking about? I think you’re on the wrong thread. The scientific method is only relevant when and where it’s relevant. I don’t see you losing your mind over pottery or Swahili. And labeling people - telling us what we are or are not, or what we know or don’t know, is hella arrogant. I have a doctorate, btw, so you picked the wrong hill to die on. Grow up and read a wider variety of books. If you read at all.