The aluminium one looks top notch. It looks like inspired by Mathias router, so much that it looks like a copy. I think it's a good improvement but price seems prohibitive. If these machines get cheaper , more workshops will be able to have these. Good work.
As far as mounting bearings onto shafts. If you use the green aircraft grade loctite, believe it or not you will almost destroy the bearing trying to get it off. Actually you typically do destroy it removing it. If you want i can go out into my garage and find the Loctite number. Its expensive but you can buy tiny bottles of it. I have a few ounces that have lasted me 10 years so far. I even use the stuff to mount small flanged bearings into hardwood and they NEVER break loose. Its also nice for setting nuts onto threaded shafts in set positions. you have to take a blow torch to them to remove them if you find the need.
If you are still considering the shaft + bearing addition, you can always try putting the shaft in the freezer and heating the bearing with a heat gun or hair dryer. As long as the shaft was slightly too large at room temp and now fits when cold, it should lock in well once returned to room temp
Mr Wandel really are incredible equipment but still prefer what made wood because it shows all his genius and so am your fan. As for alumunio pantograph is to perform a job with perfection. Congratulations on your purchase.
Ran across a video I think it's in your archives, of a guy in Ireland who was using dual pantographs to carve wood frames for mirrors. Still waiting on the CNC pantorouter, look forward to seeing someone build one of those. Apparently there are these speed screws you can buy so that the system operates as fast as the commercial ones do.
Matthias, new subscriber here. loving your videos man, really well done across the board. i'm sure someone has mentioned this but roller bearings can be ordered in almost limitless id and od in both metric and imperial, precision ground drill rod as well, through mcmaster or the like. get rod that is .001" oversized for your bearing id and simply press on with a clamp. sticking the rod in the freezer overnight helps as well as gentle heat on the bearing race and a drop of green locktite. thanks again for the videos and keep up the great work
For swapping over your template followers, you could use some brass tube to make a roller. For example, 6mm bore x 8mm OD can simply slide it onto your bolt.
to mount the bearing on the shaft , you can score/scuff/bur the shaft with dremel so the fitting shaft has burs to grab it and ,use a press to press on , . also , use some thread lock, the super stuff..... will freeze em right on.also have to the option of the liquid JB weld.
hi Mathias , like your videos always informative and good structure to them. have you tried copying a metal gear with your pan router ? would make an interesting video.
You could make an fitting sleeve from brass for that bearing/rod. Or maybe from some hardwood - it would fit your style, building wooden machinery and all.
Muinto inteligente,seus inventos são muinto uteis, ja te acompanho a muinto tempo,gostei muinto da tua pessoa, pois sabe dividir os teus conhecimento com os outros, um abraço fique com DEUS.
Olá amigo, como é o nome deste furador? Você tem o projeto ou manual de peças deste de alumínio, quero fazer um pra mim, estou querendo montar uma oficina pra mim e quero fazer minhas próprias maquinas, me escrevi em sua pagina e curto muito seu trabalho!!!
Matthias I have had a lot of success of mounting a bearing on a metal shaft. Make sure the shaft fits the bearing snugly, saw a few shallow groves in the shaft, use Pratley Steel for assembly. Once dry it is quite sound and because there is not a big load on the bearing, it lasts. I used the same method in construction of the machine lifts which I also built according to your design!
Matthias Wandel Precision ground drill rod is on size and will do a nice easy press fit onto a bearing. 3/8" rod is still pretty cheap too. and bearing R62RS 3/8"id x 7/8"od fits $8 for 36" of rod and $2 for a bearing "SR6/1-OD Radial Bearings" will give you a 1" OD on the same 3/8" shaft No machining needed, Hacksaw the rod to length to cut it, file or sander to chamfer and smooth the edges. It presses in with a vise. You can do the same with metric sizes too. The cheapest import bearings are fine, for this stuff.
Hmmm, why can't you just use the PR to place a small round tenon on the end of a hardwood dowel then screw a bearing onto the end? Is it a mater of stiffness? I still think the wooden one has more charm, between that and your bandsaws I am still amazed at what you do with wood...
being smart as you are is not that simple issue , there are many people here( in youtube) tryin to be smart and getting all the ligths on them , but you are smart Mathias , thank for sharing what you know , by the way i 'd like to get one of your Pantorouter( aluminum )
They are both very nice machines but I think I'd pick the metal one. Buddy did some job making it. I'm guessing he bought your plans and went off them to make it. It's got some nice features that make it more user friendly.
Only two, I always thought that you guys always built it once as a proof of concept, then once as you filmed it, add in the one from the excellent metal redesign, that should be at least three. What happened to the first one?
If you are seeking to incite jealousy, you have succeeded. The precision that is obtained with both machines is very impressive. The tool maker in me would prompt me to purchase the aluminum pantarouter. The tool maker in me would also prompt me to build the wood one, just for the challenge to see how accurately I could make it.
Hi! L want to know if you are the creator of the pantorouter? And if it possible to buy the pantorouter in metal build Thank and sorry for my english because am french guy.
It's possible to buy the metal pantorouter through Matthias' site by finding the page with contact info. I'd suggest starting with the hyperlink in the description.
Matthias, if your extrusion has an opening of .320 like our VSC fence then you can use Festool quick clamps to hold anything you want to that slotted table. Very fast and much easier.
Was this a purchase or a manufacturer evaluation provided unit? Reason I ask is your DIY unit works *so very well* and you usually do not spend recklessly (=A GOOD THING!!!)
The DIY machine is the first/original Pantorouter. Kuldeep made the metal pantorouter after seeing the wooden one and began mass-production procedures. He sent Matthias this metal one for free.
+samuel pincay El no vende la maquina pero ofrece los planos para que la construyas tu, los planos los encuentras en su pagina. La otra opcion seria comprar la de aluminio que viene desde Japon y la pagina es la siguiente. woodgears.ca/pantorouter/kulde...
Andreas Ihring That is correct, Mr. Kuldeep used Mr. Wandel's design and even offered to pay royalties for it. Matthias decided to just have him send a free pantorouter when the royalty owed equaled the cost. Genius' are very rarely so kind and honorable.
There are thousands of bearing sizes. Choose your rod first then your bearing. I have used bearings loads of times on 6mm threaded rod. Never had a problem.
Your videos are like Christmas presents to a kid! Thank you Matthias Wandel!
Love the end of the episode! :D
Hi Matthias! I've always enjoyed your ingenuity and videos. I am happy to see your design is the basis for the commercial panto router. Best of luck!
I appreciate how careful you are in all your designs to make sure to only require tools we would likely have.
I'm hosting a creepy laugh seminar at my shop this Tuesday, you are welcome to come.
No va a poder llegar a tu cita ya que ese martes tiene una reunion de risas forzadas y etupidas.
The aluminium one looks top notch. It looks like inspired by Mathias router, so much that it looks like a copy. I think it's a good improvement but price seems prohibitive. If these machines get cheaper , more workshops will be able to have these. Good work.
Miguel Angel no hablo espanol
we speak English
This video just gave me a idea on how to solve a woodworking engineering problem I've been struggling with for a while
As far as mounting bearings onto shafts. If you use the green aircraft grade loctite, believe it or not you will almost destroy the bearing trying to get it off. Actually you typically do destroy it removing it.
If you want i can go out into my garage and find the Loctite number. Its expensive but you can buy tiny bottles of it.
I have a few ounces that have lasted me 10 years so far.
I even use the stuff to mount small flanged bearings into hardwood and they NEVER break loose.
Its also nice for setting nuts onto threaded shafts in set positions. you have to take a blow torch to them to remove them if you find the need.
Really beautiful looking machines! Thanks for posting:)
I like metal more than wood usually, but it is apparent that you built that older pantorouter with some damn fine woodworking.
It's always nice to watch your videos dude ... but it's never satisfying unless I see machines in action.
Keep it up
The end of this video earned my immediate subscription. Also, it seems like I can learn a lot from you. Kudos, sir.
You should get another one for your bedroom. Put one in your bathroom too.
I'm curious if you could run both at the same time, making a copy.
I am jealous of your 2 pantarouter machines. love the diabolical laugh. I really enjoy your work.
If you are still considering the shaft + bearing addition, you can always try putting the shaft in the freezer and heating the bearing with a heat gun or hair dryer. As long as the shaft was slightly too large at room temp and now fits when cold, it should lock in well once returned to room temp
Mr Wandel really are incredible equipment but still prefer what made wood because it shows all his genius and so am your fan. As for alumunio pantograph is to perform a job with perfection. Congratulations on your purchase.
I think it's time for a 3rd machine ..... bigger and better!! Happy New Year Matthias!
Really enjoy your videos. Learning by doing at it's best. Best of luck man!
Do you think it is possible to make a small pantorouter on your pantorouter?
Ran across a video I think it's in your archives, of a guy in Ireland who was using dual pantographs to carve wood frames for mirrors. Still waiting on the CNC pantorouter, look forward to seeing someone build one of those. Apparently there are these speed screws you can buy so that the system operates as fast as the commercial ones do.
嗨～哈囉！你好！木工大師～請問這台機器台灣哪裡可以買的到呢？謝謝
Я давно считаю Вас Великим Мастером . Вы просто гений . Спасибо , что делитесь своими идеями с широким кругом публики .
Do you think you would be able to make your own extended toggle clamps?
what kind of wood have you used for building it?
Matthias,
Does the pantagraph portion of the machine use bushings or is it steel rubbing on aluminum?
david
Couldn't you make a longer shaft for the bearing guide so the router doesn't hit the brackets? Or make a C channel that the router can fit thru?
What kind of routers are inserted into these?
Matthias, new subscriber here. loving your videos man, really well done across the board.
i'm sure someone has mentioned this but roller bearings can be ordered in almost limitless id and od in both metric and imperial, precision ground drill rod as well, through mcmaster or the like. get rod that is .001" oversized for your bearing id and simply press on with a clamp. sticking the rod in the freezer overnight helps as well as gentle heat on the bearing race and a drop of green locktite.
thanks again for the videos and keep up the great work
Wooden pentorouter machine price india
For swapping over your template followers, you could use some brass tube to make a roller. For example, 6mm bore x 8mm OD can simply slide it onto your bolt.
Matthias voce também é super profissional parabéns.
Todos teus projetos são incrivéis , tinha como detalhar melhor a medida onde fica o motor.
Great video review and awesome Easter Egg at the end.
Love your videos so thank you for sharing. Have you build / designed a router lathe? Its my next project (after finishing Christmas projects/gifts)
Matthias, I wonder if their creations are available in textbooks or manuals. If you have, I would adiquirir, it would be possible?
I feel like I,m going to UA-cam university. This stuff is just amazing.
What if you made a mortis out of the metal one and a tennin with the wood one
what motor are using in your pantorouter?
do u have video y o build it?
to mount the bearing on the shaft , you can score/scuff/bur the shaft with dremel so the fitting shaft has burs to grab it and ,use a press to press on , . also , use some thread lock, the super stuff..... will freeze em right on.also have to the option of the liquid JB weld.
hi Mathias , like your videos always informative and good structure to them. have you tried copying a metal gear with your pan router ? would make an interesting video.
That evil laugh !!! Mwahahahahah .... !!!
Where do buy the metal pantorouter?
You could make an fitting sleeve from brass for that bearing/rod. Or maybe from some hardwood - it would fit your style, building wooden machinery and all.
como adquirir esses tipos de pantografo?
Matthias you are an inspiration
Where do I buy the kit I'm from Brazil how to buy
Kreg Automaxx clamps are a good alternative to the Bessey clamps. MrBigerock on UA-cam has a video where he compares the two.
AMIGO COMO LO HICISTE TENDRAS UN VIDEO QUE LO EXPLIQUE SALUDOS Y FELICIDADES DESDE VENEZUELA!
I love the new one but the wooden one you built is still the best,as for the laugh at the end,well I dont blame you,all the best
Muinto inteligente,seus inventos são muinto uteis, ja te acompanho a muinto tempo,gostei muinto da tua pessoa, pois sabe dividir os teus conhecimento com os outros, um abraço fique com DEUS.
Psssssttt... Mathias, have I got a pantorouter for you! lol What you really need is another pantorouter! Good video.
Olá amigo, como é o nome deste furador? Você tem o projeto ou manual de peças deste de alumínio, quero fazer um pra mim, estou querendo montar uma oficina pra mim e quero fazer minhas próprias maquinas, me escrevi em sua pagina e curto muito seu trabalho!!!
Matthias I have had a lot of success of mounting a bearing on a metal shaft. Make sure the shaft fits the bearing snugly, saw a few shallow groves in the shaft, use Pratley Steel for assembly. Once dry it is quite sound and because there is not a big load on the bearing, it lasts. I used the same method in construction of the machine lifts which I also built according to your design!
If the bearing fits snug, it's easy. The problem is you need a metal lathe to make the bushing to go between the bearing and the shaft.
Matthias Wandel Does the bushing have to be metal?
Matthias Wandel Precision ground drill rod is on size and will do a nice easy press fit onto a bearing. 3/8" rod is still pretty cheap too. and bearing R62RS 3/8"id x 7/8"od fits
$8 for 36" of rod and $2 for a bearing
"SR6/1-OD Radial Bearings" will give you a 1" OD on the same 3/8" shaft
No machining needed, Hacksaw the rod to length to cut it, file or sander to chamfer and smooth the edges.
It presses in with a vise.
You can do the same with metric sizes too.
The cheapest import bearings are fine, for this stuff.
I have zero pantorouter machines.... :(
matthias where are buy product your make in italy very tank
Seems like a lot of effort just to plot trouser coordinates.
Or to direct said trousers' traffic.
Love your videos as always!
Did they pay you to make a metal one completely like your design?
Matthias Wandel has two pantorouter machines!!! Aha ha ha ha haa...!!!
Two! Ahahahahaha!
Now three.
Maxwell Goodacre now 4
voce faz o que muitos nao, Eu nao tenho condiçoes de comprar uma maquina dessa,
mais tenho condições de fazer uma dessa sua. muito obrigado.
BUENAS TARDES
DONDE SE PUEDE COMPRAR LA MAQUINA EN ESPAÑA ?
and a good family and you live in Canada . rub it in, just keep making the interesting videos and will still love you. tool snob
Sir, This pantorouter drawing is available now
Excelente. Parabéns.
Hmmm, why can't you just use the PR to place a small round tenon on the end of a hardwood dowel then screw a bearing onto the end? Is it a mater of stiffness? I still think the wooden one has more charm, between that and your bandsaws I am still amazed at what you do with wood...
Hola soy de republica dominicana necesito saber como y donde puedo comprar los plano del pantorouter
being smart as you are is not that simple issue , there are many people here( in youtube) tryin to be smart and getting all the ligths on them , but you are smart Mathias , thank for sharing what you know , by the way i 'd like to get one of your Pantorouter( aluminum )
They are both very nice machines but I think I'd pick the metal one. Buddy did some job making it. I'm guessing he bought your plans and went off them to make it. It's got some nice features that make it more user friendly.
Only two, I always thought that you guys always built it once as a proof of concept, then once as you filmed it, add in the one from the excellent metal redesign, that should be at least three. What happened to the first one?
I have 2 pantorouter machines. ah ha ha ha ha.. Matthias, you crack me up ! Happy Holidays
How much Aluminium Broo?
donde puedo comprar el de metal. soy de mexico
If you are seeking to incite jealousy, you have succeeded. The precision that is obtained with both machines is very impressive. The tool maker in me would prompt me to purchase the aluminum pantarouter. The tool maker in me would also prompt me to build the wood one, just for the challenge to see how accurately I could make it.
How to buy
The Count from Sesame Street. That's why I like you Matthias.
So when can we expect to see the plans for the metal version??
+raindogred never
+Matthias Wandel i geuss could figure it out from your plan. That t slot aluminium is pretty easy to work with..like a big mechano set
It's actually cos someone else is making and selling the metal pantograph
matthias what motor for this pantarouter tags u.s.a. tank you
+luigi pelliccia Just a router with a removable base
Hi! L want to know if you are the creator of the pantorouter? And if it possible to buy the pantorouter in metal build
Thank and sorry for my english because am french guy.
It's possible to buy the metal pantorouter through Matthias' site by finding the page with contact info. I'd suggest starting with the hyperlink in the description.
good and fair review.
Matthias, if your extrusion has an opening of .320 like our VSC fence then you can use Festool quick clamps to hold anything you want to that slotted table. Very fast and much easier.
I think the festool clamps are much wider than the slots.
While Festool quick clamps are a great alternative, I think that cost could be an issue. At least for me it would be.
You have three! The regular, the XL and the metal!
I love how you have a fortune worth of (mostly self-built) equipment in your shop, but you don't have a metric square :D
Your the man! I'm a big fan
Didn't expect the end. Glad I waited half a second. Hahahaha.
Was this a purchase or a manufacturer evaluation provided unit? Reason I ask is your DIY unit works *so very well* and you usually do not spend recklessly (=A GOOD THING!!!)
The DIY machine is the first/original Pantorouter. Kuldeep made the metal pantorouter after seeing the wooden one and began mass-production procedures. He sent Matthias this metal one for free.
Estimado Matthias como podria conseguir un pantorouter
+samuel pincay El no vende la maquina pero ofrece los planos para que la construyas tu, los planos los encuentras en su pagina. La otra opcion seria comprar la de aluminio que viene desde Japon y la pagina es la siguiente. woodgears.ca/pantorouter/kulde...
Ima gonna own one of these some day!!!
Mesmo sem entender uma palavra, eu fico assistindo tentando encontrar os detalhes kkkk
That evil laugh at the end tho
como fazer pera comprar um pantorouter e qual o valor
.... se i bravissimo ..... complimenti .... tanti cari saluti dall'Italia. Silvano
Como fazer para comprar uma
I loved the creativity but not the last laugh loool
You're a goofy guy but I love your videos. Keep up the good work.
Wow, those machines really are similar, guess geniuses think alike. :D
Someone made a metal version from his plans, and sells them. it's really all Wandel design :D
Andreas Ihring That is correct, Mr. Kuldeep used Mr. Wandel's design and even offered to pay royalties for it. Matthias decided to just have him send a free pantorouter when the royalty owed equaled the cost. Genius' are very rarely so kind and honorable.
Evipicc Tesla was quite kind to George Westinghouse, but yeah, not typical. Like the song says "Money changes everything."
This dude is my new hero.
There are thousands of bearing sizes. Choose your rod first then your bearing. I have used bearings loads of times on 6mm threaded rod. Never had a problem.
Can I have one?
Subtitulos en español Porfavor!!!
Sir i buy your homemade pantorouter how much the price ?
Sulpicio Moslarez
A lot more than buying a metal one... And I'm sure Matthias won't be making pantorouters anytime soon.
When the main link is 24cm than the main link is only 12cm? or not?
one linke 12, the other 24
Matthias Wandel Thank you
good videos you have a lot of Talent👍