Guys my mother who is over 85 years old and a window who had tags that were expired over a year old and that officer was kind enough to follower her home and let me and family update her tags thank you Lawton Police Department of Oklahoma for being understanding
@@UpnorthHeregreat idea you have there! Sov-Cits must be stopped as soon as they start their word salad. Sadly Sov-Cits are multiplying like bunnies. 🐰
While the officer has an obligation to protect the constitutional rights of the defendant, he also has an obligation to protect the people of New Hampshire from unlicensed or unregistered drivers.
Let me start by saying I have license, registration and not a sov citizen. What are they protecting from unregistered driver? registration makes you safer?
@@TexasSandSailor Yes. Vehicles must be safe to drive (generally through inspection) before they can be registered and in general, registration also allows tracking of the driver in the case of them breaking the law.
@@TexasSandSailor the sovereign idiots' argument that there has to be a singular, human victim is fallacious. Period. That's simply not the law. By breaking laws and acting in contravention to state or federal statutes, you are violating the inherent terms you implicitly and absolutely agreed to by operating a vehicle on the road, no engagement in vehicular "commerce" necessary. Thus, the presumed victims are the people of the state. I don't understand why the sovereign morons can't get it. They've been told this time after time after time, but much like their jurisdictional and other arguments, they're entirely invalid. As long as you're intelligent enough to comprehend simple wording, you understand when someone tells you something in plain English. If the sovereign jerkoffs were like you, and could ask a question with reason and maturity, we wouldn't have these case examples of the sovereign's collectively diminutive IQ's, and Mike would have to make videos on other legal topics. But this is more fun, so I'm glad you're not a sovereign dipshit, while simultaneously being glad that they're still out there somewhere, misunderstanding legal concepts, misreading state and federal laws, lying, whining, begging and bragging about how smart they all are. 😊
@@champagne213 Exactly! Additionally, courts have continuously and routinely ruled that enforcing traffic laws, regulations and statutes that are part as parcel of your acceptance of the privilege of operating a vehicle on public roadways, is in no way violative of your 4th amendment rights. Too bad sovereign citizens don't believe in the Constitution they so immediately hide behind. The Articles of Confederation didn't afford people the protections the Constitution does. Convenient how they switch sides so quickly.
It's literally mandatory to display it in such a way that other people can clearly see it. That anyone would think they're due privacy over it is utter insanity.
I got a no registration ticket in N. CA. When I went to court there were no lawyers, just the judge, his clerk, a bailiff and cops as witnesses. It was quite entertaining, no nonsense, no nothing. When he called my case, I went to a podium and the judge said, "What do you want to tell me?" I told him my car was parked and I had temp tags in the front window, but the officer must not have seen them." He asked if I had the documents, I said yes, he said to show them to the clerk, and we were done. Before me he must have done about a dozen cases in about an hour. One girl with an open container violation tried to say it wasn't hers and she didn't know it was there. He suspended her for 6 mos. and told her to give her license to the clerk. She said she didn't have it with her. He said, "Go get it.", she told him she lost it. He said, "Fine, the 6 mos will start when you turn in your license, Next!" I don't know his name, but I would love to see a sov cit before him.
My teacher had a friend who was stopped for speeding. He went to court with detailed info on the gear the cop used and meteorological data on that place on that day on that time. Turned out it was raining and the cops gear was so unreliable in rainy weather the results couldn't be admissible. Imagine the cop claims you were doing 60 on a 55 when the gear had a +/- 15 mph error margin. So my teacher's friend won his case and didn't have to pay a fine or lose points.
@@destroyerinazuma96 Was it a radar gun? I didn’t know speed detection gear can be so heavily influenced by rain! That’s a crazy big difference being +/-15! That isn’t reliable to use for any cars in the rain! Wtf.
I like this trooper, yeah he's frowning, furrowed brow, obviously disagrees with the defendant, but maintains a professional demeanor and shows nothing but respect to the defendant, which is actually showing respect for the court AFAIC.
In civil traffic hearings, it's common for there to be no prosecutor, at least in my jurisdiction. The cop presents the State's case in narrative form with the judge being able to ask questions and the defendant able to cross-examine. The defendant then presents his case in narrative format. The cop cannot cross, because he's not an attorney, but the judge can ask clarifying questions.
They are infractions which is a special category of crime that have a lower burden thn misdemeanors. The latter require beyond a reasonable doubt, Infractions are just preponderance of the evidence. Whether infractions should ever have been allowed to be created is a VERY esoteric constitutional discussion.
Mike, 21:51 when you "hear a voice"... It's the officer🤭 In many small local jurisdictions the cop IS the state. There's no one else there. That's why the judge was asking the cop questions.😂
Kansas v. Glover just passed in the Supreme Court. Law Enforcement can run a plate without probable cause, then pull them over for no license, warrants,etc., even if no traffic violation happened.
No, it reversed the finding of the Kansas Supreme Court that it was unreasonable to stop a vehicle merely because the registered owner's license was suspended. "We hold that when the officer lacks information negating an inference that the owner is the driver of the vehicle, the stop is reasonable", i.e., the "reasonable suspicion" is sufficient to justify an investigatory stop, unless he clearly knows it's not the suspect who is driving, but even without observing any other violations. 140 S.Ct. 1183, 589 U. S. ____ (2020)
I have only been in court a couple of times (complaint over our loathsome neighbour and his head banging "music".) It astonishes me that people appear in a court looking as though they have just been doing the gardening. PS: I noticed that none of those sitting stood up when the judge went to leave the court.
Yes, that really bothered me - I wondered if they were a bunch of his Sovcit followers, but they didn't seem that interested in what was happening. Shouldn't that be contempt? Or is it only enforced in the well?
If I recall from when I was a kid, Stuart Little never registered his vehicle. I don't even recall his having a license or insurance. The defendant failed to bring that up.
Hey Mike. I’m a police officer and this seems to be a local Municipal Traffic court. This is how we all of our civil traffic violations are heard where I am from as well. There we are called present our case then the defendant can defend themselves. / cross. Etc. They can hire an attorney to assist them but most just go at it themselves as it’s only civil. (In my experience)
In my state, several jurisdictions have optical readers mounted on their police cars that run every plate it "sees" automatically and flags the officer on their MDT if the registration is expired, suspended, etc. I've never seen a sovereign citizen around here. Wonder if there is a correlation.
Same here in the UK. It's called Automatic Number Plate Recognition. There are fixed cameras as well, and if one of them picks up a plate that is known to police for any reason, such as no insurance, registered keeper banned or no licence etc. then the cop gets a 'ping' on the screen and knows immediately whether that vehicle needs to be pulled over or not. We don't see all that many sovcits over here, or as we call them Freemen of the Land.
In the UK, many counties’ police forces have automated number plate recognition, which will flash up any outstanding warrants, whether the car is stolen, whether the car is taxed and MoT’d (roadworthiness tested).
If he appeals a fine should apply; I think everyone should have the chance to hang themselves if they choose to hold the reins and lead their own case. This dude crashed and burned so spectacularly that I would wager each other person in that room talked about it at home haha
Coincidentally, the NH law on frivolous claims or defenses (in contract or tort) allows an order of summary judgement and a $1,000 fine (plus costs and fees). Three strikes by pro se litigants (for harassment) exhausts their right to file without counsel or posting bond.
Yeah, they just eliminated tags in Alberta since all police vehicles are equipped with cameras that read the license and determine whether the registration is current or not
@@jonathansim678 Same here in the UK. We used to have paper discs in the front windscreen that gave the expiry date for the road tax. They abolished them and it's now done electronically. As a result, tax evasion has soared. Great decision, government 🙄
The police department I was with, was given all money from traffic infractions to the county library. Thought that was kinda cool. That is also the reason why I never vote to give our library any millages, because I know how much money did getting donations from speeding tickets.
I just bought the vehicle stickers required by my village. I asked the clerk if she was here when that frauditor came in. She rolled her eyes, and said yes. She said there were three of them. They try not to be unhelpful to people, but these guys were something else.
I wish someone would point out to these sovs that they are stealing. They want to drive for free on the roads that the rest of us who pay for our license and registration pay for with those fees.
I've been in traffic court a couple of times and this is always how it works. Cop tells his story, I'm allowed to ask him questions after he's done. Then I tell my story.
@@louistournas120 It's very much like Night Court but without the games going on. Time served refers to the time you've already been in jail. So if you get busted for no D/L (for example) and you spend the night in jail the judge might sentence you to one day in jail with credit for the day you already spent in jail so you don't have to go back to jail.
23:52 The look on his face is priceless when the judge finds him guilty. It’s like he just found out Santa Clause wasn’t real. He thought he had a slam dunk case.
What the heck.........what do these people eat that makes their brains believe they’re even remotely smart Enough to act as their own attorney? Good Gosh!
I really love your channel! I do want to bring to light that though these idiots are entertaining, there is families that suffer from their selfish behavior. My husband was slowly going down this rabbit hole, including all the Covid conspiracies! Sadly, he got very ill, admitted to the ICU and refused to listen to the doctors, convinced they were going to say he had Covid (which he didn't) to get money! He checked himself out of the hospital and died that night! He had a rare pneumonia that was treatable. I just wanted to say that there are many families whose lives are devastated by their actions! Thanks!
That there were 10s of 1000s of deaths in hospitals chalked up to covid when those hospitals were making billions off specifically 'covid" cases - it never crossed your mind to think about their incentives to indeed diagnose covid AND then refuse him know meds but insist on jabs that do not stop infections or treat the virus AND were given under duress to people who were isolated by those hospitals from their support/patient advocates? Amazing he was "going down that road". You know just because you think some government is fine NOT ALL of it is to be trusted & the same especially goes for those medical=pharmaceutical industry. These monsters refused treatment other than the jabs & used a drug on people on respirators that suffocate them. Lawsuits are piling up against hospitals & the drug manufacturer as we speak - Respiridol. Look it up on something other than FOUCI NEWS.
I think he and everyone who goes to court with the argument that they don't have to have registration, should also have their license suspended until they can provide proof of current registration. Otherwise they'll just keep driving without one.
Hey there! From an LEO in NM. Love your videos! I actually really learn a lot. Typically petty misdemeanors or penalty assessment citation fall under officer prosecution. Also there is no expectation of privacy on license plates.
In our community we had a problem with car burglaries. So we established a Police foundation which we donated license plate readers to the main entryways of town. Car burglaries dropped by 80% since the burglars were driving into town to commit the thefts. Thank goodness there is not a probable cause to run the license plate readers!
Sov Cit: “Can I pay the fine to charity?” Judge: “Sure. Make your check payable to the “Foundation for Whiny and Bitter Sov. Cit Losers Without Genitalia.”
The look on his face when he was found guilty was the exact same look of surprise I had on my face last year when my wife told me there is no Santa Claus.
I remember a time when I thought 100 bucks was alot of money. I was 12. A grown man not being able to pay 124 bucks is beyond pathetic. He could easily make small payments on a payment plan.
Sovs in the courtroom sometimes seem like that pathetic flavour of gambler who doesn't want to lose one $100 chip and so stakes five of them to protect the first. The sunk cost fallacy is strong with these ones. But really, when you get down to it, what we're watching in these videos is cargo-cult law.
Hello from New Hampshire. We have Circuit Courts, and Superior Courts. Circuit Courts have jurisdiction over violation and misdemeanor level offenses, but not felonies. Superior Courts have jurisdiction over all levels of offenses, but exclusive jurisdiction over felonies. Police officers are permitted to serve as prosecutors in violation and misdemeanor level offenses in the Circuit Courts, but prosecutors in the Superior Courts have to be attorneys, regardless of the level of offense. This trial was in one of the Circuit Courts. Many of our police departments will hire attorney prosecutors to prosecute their misdemeanors, sometimes clusters of smaller police departments will contract with an attorney, but they are not required to. The State Police do have attorney prosecutors, but they generally don't use them to prosecute violation-level offenses such as traffic stuff like this. This means even the arresting trooper himself can serve as the prosecutor, and testify in the narrative. As a matter of trivia, in NH private citizens are allowed to file complaints alleging class B misdemeanors (where no jail time is possible) and prosecute them, but the Attorney General has the authority to drop the charge. Which they do, pretty much any time a citizen tries to start a private prosecution.
In Baltimore City, traffic offenses that don't carry jail time do not have a prosecutor at the trial. The judge asks all of the questions of the witnesses, including the officers involved
Any and all unlicensed vehicles should be towed and impounded, until the owner pays fine and costs, impound, storage, and tow fees. Owner should be required to provide current license, registration, and proof of insurance before being allowed to take their vehicle from impound. Unless a legal exemption is proven
I would agree with the exception if the plates just became expired. For instance, all the things you say except that the plates became expired greater than 40 days ago.
The voice near the end stating "no further witnesses for the State" is the trooper. It looks like the same idea as some areas of Pennsylvania or New York (I forget which) where the trooper IS the State. They prosecute cases like this.
The fact that Mike never figured out it wasn't a prosecutor, it was the officer talking the whole time (you can see his jaw move when he returns to the seat and 'rests' the case) is hilarious to me.
Seriously???? I’m a disabled vet and I still have to register my truck. I have DV plates that are mine for life, that I can transfer to a new vehicle but I still have to go through the proper channels for that. So we’re not exempt, but here in Texas, my annual registration fee is $10.
In NY our State Troopers have scanners mounted on their cars that scan your license plate as they drive towards or behind you and automatically pulls up all your info, so no they don't need any probable cause just to run a plate 🤦♂️
Hi Mike. I conduct administrative hearings in my state. In my agency, there is no prosecutor, and I present the department's case as well as question the department's witnesses and cross examine the respondent's witnesses. I then act as the trier of fact and render the decision of the case. Abnormal, yes, but these types of hearings do exist, haha.
@@mrjones2721 the police officer is in charge of "presenting the case", if it is done the same way as states I've lived in. The administrator asks questions, the police officer presents info he thinks is relevant and the defense can ask questions too. The administrator or judge isn't gathering evidence like a prosecutor would nor are they putting on evidence they are just asking questions of the witnesses to figure out what the facts are so that they can make a decision. Just like how in some states the jury can ask questions.
This doesn’t make any sense. How can you be the trier of fact and a interested party? That’s like saying you’re the referee and also the assistant coach of the opposing team.
In NH, officers may prosecute offenses which are misdemeanor or violation level offenses. Depending on the size of the department, they may have a designated police prosecutor or a contracted attorney. For felony level cases, those are normally prosecuted by the county attorney (although probable cause hearing subsequent to arrest may be conducted by the officer in district court).
Blind veterans are exempt from having their vehicles registered?? Whaaa?? While I fully support tax amelioration for my fellow vets, in all honesty, I don't want any blind people driving anywhere. (We have enough sighted people who drive like they're blind).
I have a couple of neighbors who are blind, and they drive better than some of the sighted people around here. Yeah, I'm in a kind of remote place where the law just barely exists.
@@FIREBRAND38 That's what I said - but there was a charge of "driving a vehicle not registered to him" which is what I was calling out as strange. Many of us have driven vehicles that weren't registered to us, individually. Also, I'm very calm.
Also, running the plate isn't a search. It's in plain view. I have not read the case, but I would bet dollars to donuts that the case that there's no duty concerns tort law. In other words, the case stands for the principle that certain failures by the government do not create a cause of action. But that's what engineers call a wild ass guess.
Once again a sov-cit goes to great lengths to avoid being a responsible adult and pay his bills. They all do this and thier sov-cit nonsense always causes them to lose the case.
I think he was saying that he's part of "The Shire Society." A quick browse of their website, you sign a "declaration" of your own sovereignty away from any government, and then rambles on through this guy's talking points about not relying on the government to secure his rights or safety. It's just a more specific flavor of SovCit, rooted in New Hampshire.
Whether cops _should_ be able to run plates without RS or PC is a separate matter. Here in Henderson, the PD has license plate readers on 5 cruisers and they keep the data for 5 years.
Hi Mike, the channel "Caught In Providence" does have a similar set up as this court. No Prosecutor and the superb judge is asking the questions. Quite entertaining to watch. Greetings from Germany.
Not sure how things are in the US but in some (most?) states in Australia, police cars have a video camera plugged into a laptop with direct access to the state DMV. It is always running and will flag the officer if it finds a car that is out of rego or if the owner has a suspended or cancelled license. Once flagged, on goes the red and blues.
Love watching y'all on UA-cam. Also appreciate the dogs. As soon as I can afford it I will be getting one of your pink tank tops to be placed on sovereign patrol!!! Love it...
They're great! I've had one of those pink tank tops since summer-time and they're uper soft and cute AF. Only problem is that the lettering fades over time, but I wouldn't worry too much, cuz that's with a lot of wear and tear 😂
In states like Florida, police have scanners on their cars that run plates while they drive, and alert them to the owner of the vehicle if their license is suspended or if the plate is expired. The scanner doesn’t look for probable cause lol. It just scans.
Yeah, looks like he’s grasping at straws here. First, bumper stickers, then some kind of imaginary consent to follow the laws of the state that he is in. Man.
God forbid he should hold himself accountable. If you want to change the rules by avoiding them then you have to be prepared for the occasional arrest, fine etc... It's kinda gross how people fighting for civil rights put themselves in harms way/were beaten & battered and this guy thinks what he's doing is on par..
This looks like a traffic court format where the trooper is the state's representative, and there is no DA present. The judge, unlike a jury, gets to ask questions to fill in the evidence he's looking for. You won't see anything like that in a case involving anything beyond a fine.
In MA they use this as a type of "show cause hearing" before the clerk-magistrate refers a "criminal traffic ticket" appeal to a criminal prosecutor, when someone chooses not to plead guilty and pay the fine.
Funny, I don’t remember signing contracts with the national, state, or local authorities to follow the laws in place. The only such contract I ever signed was my enlistment contract where I came under the jurisdiction of UCMJ, but no others. Where does this dude get this?
@Stephen Mintz One, a driver’s license is just proof that I have been properly trained and qualified to operate a motor vehicle. Insurance is a contract with private businesses. Even without those, we’re still required to follow the federal, state, and local laws that are in effect where we live, and no individual contract is required for that. Try again.
@Stephen Mintz Insurance is such a racket, especially health care. I own my own business so I pay $1000 @ month outta pocket for me and my son with a $3000 deductible ergo I take him to the doctor but I never go.
Um, they didn't say driver's license but license plate. The vehicle is registered to the owner even if he has a relative or hires someone to drive them. So calm down, Sherlock.
Guys my mother who is over 85 years old and a window who had tags that were expired over a year old and that officer was kind enough to follower her home and let me and family update her tags thank you Lawton Police Department of Oklahoma for being understanding
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I love that the officer says “traveling” in the state of New Hampshire. It kept throwing the sov off 😂
Yep. Really cut him off. Also when he said "operating a vehicle."
Perfect answer.
Sovcits can't manage synonyms or context.
"I'm not traveling I'm driving! Wait, no, ignore that!"
They should add $1000 to these cases for waste off court time.
There should be a sovcit BINGO card for sentencing: $100 per square, $2,000 for the whole row.
@@UpnorthHeregreat idea you have there! Sov-Cits must be stopped as soon as they start their word salad. Sadly Sov-Cits are multiplying like bunnies. 🐰
I have yet to see a SOVCIT ever win a case in a real courtroom.
There is a good reason for that😂
But what if the judge abandons the ship?
@@YuriTheFriendlyRussian😅😂🤣
Mike, use this court video when inviting friends over😂😂
Every time the officer says "Your driving on the streets of New Hampshire"😂😂😂
@@YuriTheFriendlyRussianjumping ship? Think that's covered under maritime law...
Have you ever seen a Sovereign Citizens License Plate? It’s basically a Plate that says pull me over.
lmaooooo
@@molonlave2193 Hehe 😜
They do make it easy.
@@willer3399 Right.
He should also be made to pay $100 for every minute of court time that he's wasted.
Absolutely 💯💯
His look of astonishment at being found guilty is everything!
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he looked like he was having a tiny panic attack
While the officer has an obligation to protect the constitutional rights of the defendant, he also has an obligation to protect the people of New Hampshire from unlicensed or unregistered drivers.
Let me start by saying I have license, registration and not a sov citizen. What are they protecting from unregistered driver? registration makes you safer?
@@TexasSandSailor Yes. Vehicles must be safe to drive (generally through inspection) before they can be registered and in general, registration also allows tracking of the driver in the case of them breaking the law.
@@TexasSandSailor the sovereign idiots' argument that there has to be a singular, human victim is fallacious. Period. That's simply not the law. By breaking laws and acting in contravention to state or federal statutes, you are violating the inherent terms you implicitly and absolutely agreed to by operating a vehicle on the road, no engagement in vehicular "commerce" necessary. Thus, the presumed victims are the people of the state. I don't understand why the sovereign morons can't get it. They've been told this time after time after time, but much like their jurisdictional and other arguments, they're entirely invalid. As long as you're intelligent enough to comprehend simple wording, you understand when someone tells you something in plain English. If the sovereign jerkoffs were like you, and could ask a question with reason and maturity, we wouldn't have these case examples of the sovereign's collectively diminutive IQ's, and Mike would have to make videos on other legal topics. But this is more fun, so I'm glad you're not a sovereign dipshit, while simultaneously being glad that they're still out there somewhere, misunderstanding legal concepts, misreading state and federal laws, lying, whining, begging and bragging about how smart they all are. 😊
@@champagne213 Exactly! Additionally, courts have continuously and routinely ruled that enforcing traffic laws, regulations and statutes that are part as parcel of your acceptance of the privilege of operating a vehicle on public roadways, is in no way violative of your 4th amendment rights. Too bad sovereign citizens don't believe in the Constitution they so immediately hide behind. The Articles of Confederation didn't afford people the protections the Constitution does. Convenient how they switch sides so quickly.
I mean…..are citizens under any more danger if someone doesn’t pay the state their fee? Nah….
Also. Supreme Court has ruled that you have no expectation of privacy to your plate therefor you don’t need PC to run it.
Yeah, he’s trying to bring up Fourth Amendment issues, but the officer didn’t search the defendant’s possessions. He searched the state’s possessions.
It's literally mandatory to display it in such a way that other people can clearly see it. That anyone would think they're due privacy over it is utter insanity.
I got a no registration ticket in N. CA. When I went to court there were no lawyers, just the judge, his clerk, a bailiff and cops as witnesses. It was quite entertaining, no nonsense, no nothing. When he called my case, I went to a podium and the judge said, "What do you want to tell me?" I told him my car was parked and I had temp tags in the front window, but the officer must not have seen them." He asked if I had the documents, I said yes, he said to show them to the clerk, and we were done. Before me he must have done about a dozen cases in about an hour. One girl with an open container violation tried to say it wasn't hers and she didn't know it was there. He suspended her for 6 mos. and told her to give her license to the clerk. She said she didn't have it with her. He said, "Go get it.", she told him she lost it. He said, "Fine, the 6 mos will start when you turn in your license, Next!" I don't know his name, but I would love to see a sov cit before him.
My teacher had a friend who was stopped for speeding. He went to court with detailed info on the gear the cop used and meteorological data on that place on that day on that time. Turned out it was raining and the cops gear was so unreliable in rainy weather the results couldn't be admissible. Imagine the cop claims you were doing 60 on a 55 when the gear had a +/- 15 mph error margin. So my teacher's friend won his case and didn't have to pay a fine or lose points.
So the girl could keep using her license as long as it remained “lost”? 😆
@Destroyer Inazuma excellent point. Unless the judge suspended it in the system
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Was it a radar gun? I didn’t know speed detection gear can be so heavily influenced by rain! That’s a crazy big difference being +/-15! That isn’t reliable to use for any cars in the rain! Wtf.
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Right?! If only we could record in more court rooms, so she could record the judge saying that. ;)
He looks bewildered that his script and magic words didn't work.
Maybe he didn’t read those “spells” right? lol!
He should be made to pay court costs for wasting everyone’s time
Most police have auto plate readers which do it automatically
I bet he drove home with another fake plate.
The pleather jacket 🤣
This dude tipped his fedora at the court and said, “M’lawsuit.”
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That’s a fashion offense, is it enforceable, please, your honor? 😂
I think the Shire Society closed down - all of their members refused to pay their dues!
Funny!
Well, they were all exempt from the fees associated with veterans, prisoners of war, blind veterans, certain vehicles owned by non-Hobbits, etc. 😂
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Bilbo left the Shire. It was too oppressive. He went to live with the elvish folk. No registration, but no cars, either.
I like this trooper, yeah he's frowning, furrowed brow, obviously disagrees with the defendant, but maintains a professional demeanor and shows nothing but respect to the defendant, which is actually showing respect for the court AFAIC.
More respect than the spectators showed. Obviously more of the "sovereign citizen" crowd.
Sorry to bother, what does AFAIC mean? "As far as i..........what"?
@@xxskizzumxx As Far As I'm Concerned
What I found strange was when the court clerk said "all rise" nobody in the gallery moved. Is this normal?
After the verdict,the guy’s look 👀 like he saw a E.T. 😂 😂 😂
Thanks 🙏 Mike ! Good work as usual
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In civil traffic hearings, it's common for there to be no prosecutor, at least in my jurisdiction. The cop presents the State's case in narrative form with the judge being able to ask questions and the defendant able to cross-examine. The defendant then presents his case in narrative format. The cop cannot cross, because he's not an attorney, but the judge can ask clarifying questions.
Yes
You beat me to it!
Damn you beat us to it. I only know this from watching Arty do this case. It’s still fun to watch.
They are infractions which is a special category of crime that have a lower burden thn misdemeanors. The latter require beyond a reasonable doubt, Infractions are just preponderance of the evidence. Whether infractions should ever have been allowed to be created is a VERY esoteric constitutional discussion.
And Mike thinks the prosecutor “rested” but I’m pretty sure it was the trooper. In essence, he’s the prosecutor.
Last I heard, a strange looking plate is probable cause.
Mike, 21:51 when you "hear a voice"... It's the officer🤭
In many small local jurisdictions the cop IS the state. There's no one else there. That's why the judge was asking the cop questions.😂
Kansas v. Glover just passed in the Supreme Court. Law Enforcement can run a plate without probable cause, then pull them over for no license, warrants,etc., even if no traffic violation happened.
Umm, no.
More about is it reasonable for an officer to believe that the registered owner is the actual driver.
This case was decided in April of 2020
No, it reversed the finding of the Kansas Supreme Court that it was unreasonable to stop a vehicle merely because the registered owner's license was suspended. "We hold that when the officer lacks information negating an inference that the owner is the driver of the vehicle, the stop is reasonable", i.e., the "reasonable suspicion" is sufficient to justify an investigatory stop, unless he clearly knows it's not the suspect who is driving, but even without observing any other violations. 140 S.Ct. 1183, 589 U. S. ____ (2020)
Same here in the UK. No probable cause needed to stop someone, either.
I have only been in court a couple of times (complaint over our loathsome neighbour and his head banging "music".) It astonishes me that people appear in a court looking as though they have just been doing the gardening. PS: I noticed that none of those sitting stood up when the judge went to leave the court.
Yes, that really bothered me - I wondered if they were a bunch of his Sovcit followers, but they didn't seem that interested in what was happening. Shouldn't that be contempt? Or is it only enforced in the well?
They also didn't stand when he entered.
Well you are not required to be interested 😂
The police officer was well presented. All polished and shiny.
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If I recall from when I was a kid, Stuart Little never registered his vehicle. I don't even recall his having a license or insurance. The defendant failed to bring that up.
Hey Mike. I’m a police officer and this seems to be a local Municipal Traffic court. This is how we all of our civil traffic violations are heard where I am from as well. There we are called present our case then the defendant can defend themselves. / cross. Etc.
They can hire an attorney to assist them but most just go at it themselves as it’s only civil. (In my experience)
In my state, several jurisdictions have optical readers mounted on their police cars that run every plate it "sees" automatically and flags the officer on their MDT if the registration is expired, suspended, etc. I've never seen a sovereign citizen around here. Wonder if there is a correlation.
Same here in the UK. It's called Automatic Number Plate Recognition. There are fixed cameras as well, and if one of them picks up a plate that is known to police for any reason, such as no insurance, registered keeper banned or no licence etc. then the cop gets a 'ping' on the screen and knows immediately whether that vehicle needs to be pulled over or not. We don't see all that many sovcits over here, or as we call them Freemen of the Land.
In the UK, many counties’ police forces have automated number plate recognition, which will flash up any outstanding warrants, whether the car is stolen, whether the car is taxed and MoT’d (roadworthiness tested).
This must be really painful to watch for someone with any education in law.
I’m not “educated” in law but I have some knowledge and common sense. So it pains me as well. 🤣
Physical evidence is the paper that states it is expired
ALL RISE PLEASE…and nobody rises?!? WTF, no respect!!! 🙄
And there should be $1,000 stupidity fine for bringing up such a case
If he appeals a fine should apply; I think everyone should have the chance to hang themselves if they choose to hold the reins and lead their own case. This dude crashed and burned so spectacularly that I would wager each other person in that room talked about it at home haha
Coincidentally, the NH law on frivolous claims or defenses (in contract or tort) allows an order of summary judgement and a $1,000 fine (plus costs and fees). Three strikes by pro se litigants (for harassment) exhausts their right to file without counsel or posting bond.
Your honor, may I present Gandalf of the Shire Society.
He could sell that boss leather jacket
Many cities have automatic plate readers that read every plate and alerts when an issue arises, be it expired tags, outstanding parking tickets ect.
Yeah, they just eliminated tags in Alberta since all police vehicles are equipped with cameras that read the license and determine whether the registration is current or not
@@jonathansim678 Same here in the UK. We used to have paper discs in the front windscreen that gave the expiry date for the road tax. They abolished them and it's now done electronically. As a result, tax evasion has soared. Great decision, government 🙄
The police department I was with, was given all money from traffic infractions to the county library. Thought that was kinda cool. That is also the reason why I never vote to give our library any millages, because I know how much money did getting donations from speeding tickets.
I just bought the vehicle stickers required by my village. I asked the clerk if she was here when that frauditor came in. She rolled her eyes, and said yes. She said there were three of them. They try not to be unhelpful to people, but these guys were something else.
Nobody likes a kiss-arse, Judy.
Greetings from Arizona to my 🎵Dear Old Granite State.
I wish someone would point out to these sovs that they are stealing. They want to drive for free on the roads that the rest of us who pay for our license and registration pay for with those fees.
I've been in traffic court a couple of times and this is always how it works. Cop tells his story, I'm allowed to ask him questions after he's done. Then I tell my story.
Is it like Night Court, the show? People show up and it is always 50$ fine and time served. I'm not sure what time served means.
@@louistournas120 It's very much like Night Court but without the games going on. Time served refers to the time you've already been in jail. So if you get busted for no D/L (for example) and you spend the night in jail the judge might sentence you to one day in jail with credit for the day you already spent in jail so you don't have to go back to jail.
Then you lose 🤣
Mike, who is that young guy in your outro with the two dogs?
Is that your grandson?
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23:52 The look on his face is priceless when the judge finds him guilty. It’s like he just found out Santa Clause wasn’t real. He thought he had a slam dunk case.
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Wait. What do you mean Santa isn't real?
Ding dongs, ding dongs everywhere 🤭🐶🥰
Wonderful commentary Mike and I love the dogs
I just joined tonight🐶🥰
Awwww 😘
What the heck.........what do these people eat that makes their brains believe they’re even remotely smart Enough to act as their own attorney? Good Gosh!
And more specifically this cop is in the Traffic Unit so it is specifically his job to run plates and look for infractions
I really love your channel! I do want to bring to light that though these idiots are entertaining, there is families that suffer from their selfish behavior. My husband was slowly going down this rabbit hole, including all the Covid conspiracies! Sadly, he got very ill, admitted to the ICU and refused to listen to the doctors, convinced they were going to say he had Covid (which he didn't) to get money! He checked himself out of the hospital and died that night! He had a rare pneumonia that was treatable. I just wanted to say that there are many families whose lives are devastated by their actions! Thanks!
That there were 10s of 1000s of deaths in hospitals chalked up to covid when those hospitals were making billions off specifically 'covid" cases - it never crossed your mind to think about their incentives to indeed diagnose covid AND then refuse him know meds but insist on jabs that do not stop infections or treat the virus AND were given under duress to people who were isolated by those hospitals from their support/patient advocates? Amazing he was "going down that road". You know just because you think some government is fine NOT ALL of it is to be trusted & the same especially goes for those medical=pharmaceutical industry. These monsters refused treatment other than the jabs & used a drug on people on respirators that suffocate them. Lawsuits are piling up against hospitals & the drug manufacturer as we speak - Respiridol. Look it up on something other than FOUCI NEWS.
I wonder if this gem drove to court? And if he did, did he register his car?
I think he and everyone who goes to court with the argument that they don't have to have registration, should also have their license suspended until they can provide proof of current registration. Otherwise they'll just keep driving without one.
They'll just drive with no license, as they're not operating in a "commercial capacity" 🙄
@@nightrat42 exactly. It's surprising that he had a driver's license to be honest
The judge never asked the Officer if the defendants AZ drivers licence was valid.
Hey there! From an LEO in NM. Love your videos! I actually really learn a lot. Typically petty misdemeanors or penalty assessment citation fall under officer prosecution. Also there is no expectation of privacy on license plates.
This guy is a real wing nut! I can't believe these guys go thru all of this over a $75 ticket.
He wanted to be exempt ftom not just reg fees but THE ENTIRE VEHICLE CODE.
This is nothing really. Remember what Blandino did over a $40 ticket?
He's showing one of the symptoms of emotional damage. ...Lack of commonsense
He just got an upgrade to $124
@@justruthie5365 lord how could I ever forget? That was one of the best weeks of UA-cam I’ve ever seen.
And off to the soup kitchen he goes! 😂
"did my bumper stickers affect your decision?"
First amendment gives you the right to be stupid and express you are stupid.
I've got a bumper sticker that reads 'The closer you get, the slower I go..!' Never been pulled over it, though. I hate tailgaters.
In our community we had a problem with car burglaries. So we established a Police foundation which we donated license plate readers to the main entryways of town. Car burglaries dropped by 80% since the burglars were driving into town to commit the thefts. Thank goodness there is not a probable cause to run the license plate readers!
Sov Cit: “Can I pay the fine to charity?”
Judge: “Sure. Make your check payable to the “Foundation for Whiny and Bitter Sov. Cit Losers Without Genitalia.”
That escalated quickly. 😂🤣😂🤣
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Wow, that's some harsh loserphobia and genitalism right there. Are you sure that remark is acceptable under contemporary community standards? 😎
@@Tindometari I’d like to think I’m insult-fluid.
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I'll pay the fn ticket if he leaves the court room now
The look on his face when he was found guilty was the exact same look of surprise I had on my face last year when my wife told me there is no Santa Claus.
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Then where do all the milk and cookies go?...
@@lilpenguin092 That was my question!
Thanks for the laugh!
I was hoping he'd swallow a fly. He and Tuck Carlson are mouth breathers.
He who represents himself at Court has a fool for a client.
I remember a time when I thought 100 bucks was alot of money. I was 12. A grown man not being able to pay 124 bucks is beyond pathetic. He could easily make small payments on a payment plan.
Where I live, you can make that in less than a week. How badly mismanaged must this man's finances be to sink that low?
@@destroyerinazuma96 Assuming he can't pay rather than simply does not want to on principle...
Sovs in the courtroom sometimes seem like that pathetic flavour of gambler who doesn't want to lose one $100 chip and so stakes five of them to protect the first.
The sunk cost fallacy is strong with these ones.
But really, when you get down to it, what we're watching in these videos is cargo-cult law.
He has already done 12 hours of work on this also. Nuts.
Yup
Certain groups don't have to pay fees...but all their vehicles are still registerd
Man....you mean I’ve been oppressed all these years? Wow! Last I heard of the shire was in Tolkien’s books! 😂😂😂 they didn’t have cars there either!
And never got pulled over for travelling...Orcs, oh yeah, Orcs...LOL
Most of the time the office does not show up and if you corrected the problem the judge will basically expunge it. This like a ticket court.
Hello from New Hampshire. We have Circuit Courts, and Superior Courts. Circuit Courts have jurisdiction over violation and misdemeanor level offenses, but not felonies. Superior Courts have jurisdiction over all levels of offenses, but exclusive jurisdiction over felonies. Police officers are permitted to serve as prosecutors in violation and misdemeanor level offenses in the Circuit Courts, but prosecutors in the Superior Courts have to be attorneys, regardless of the level of offense. This trial was in one of the Circuit Courts. Many of our police departments will hire attorney prosecutors to prosecute their misdemeanors, sometimes clusters of smaller police departments will contract with an attorney, but they are not required to. The State Police do have attorney prosecutors, but they generally don't use them to prosecute violation-level offenses such as traffic stuff like this. This means even the arresting trooper himself can serve as the prosecutor, and testify in the narrative. As a matter of trivia, in NH private citizens are allowed to file complaints alleging class B misdemeanors (where no jail time is possible) and prosecute them, but the Attorney General has the authority to drop the charge. Which they do, pretty much any time a citizen tries to start a private prosecution.
In Baltimore City, traffic offenses that don't carry jail time do not have a prosecutor at the trial. The judge asks all of the questions of the witnesses, including the officers involved
Any and all unlicensed vehicles should be towed and impounded, until the owner pays fine and costs, impound, storage, and tow fees. Owner should be required to provide current license, registration, and proof of insurance before being allowed to take their vehicle from impound. Unless a legal exemption is proven
I would agree with the exception if the plates just became expired. For instance, all the things you say except that the plates became expired greater than 40 days ago.
But i can buy a new used one and stick it to the man haha
States each have their own laws on impounding non-registered vehicles. Some do not allow it. Others mandate it.
Got me binging these videos 😂. Darrell Brooks brought me here. This is like finding a new series on Netflix 👏🏽👏🏽
Very great job trooper 👏 👍 👌
The voice near the end stating "no further witnesses for the State" is the trooper. It looks like the same idea as some areas of Pennsylvania or New York (I forget which) where the trooper IS the State. They prosecute cases like this.
YEP, you are right Mike
The fact that Mike never figured out it wasn't a prosecutor, it was the officer talking the whole time (you can see his jaw move when he returns to the seat and 'rests' the case) is hilarious to me.
Seriously???? I’m a disabled vet and I still have to register my truck. I have DV plates that are mine for life, that I can transfer to a new vehicle but I still have to go through the proper channels for that. So we’re not exempt, but here in Texas, my annual registration fee is $10.
Qualifying veterans disabled while in service pay no title or registration fees in NH.
but you don't have to!!! Didn't you hear him!!!!
In NY our State Troopers have scanners mounted on their cars that scan your license plate as they drive towards or behind you and automatically pulls up all your info, so no they don't need any probable cause just to run a plate 🤦♂️
Hi Mike. I conduct administrative hearings in my state. In my agency, there is no prosecutor, and I present the department's case as well as question the department's witnesses and cross examine the respondent's witnesses. I then act as the trier of fact and render the decision of the case. Abnormal, yes, but these types of hearings do exist, haha.
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Thaaaaat doesn’t sound right. How can anyone be impartial when they’re in charge of presenting one side’s case?
@@mrjones2721 the police officer is in charge of "presenting the case", if it is done the same way as states I've lived in. The administrator asks questions, the police officer presents info he thinks is relevant and the defense can ask questions too. The administrator or judge isn't gathering evidence like a prosecutor would nor are they putting on evidence they are just asking questions of the witnesses to figure out what the facts are so that they can make a decision. Just like how in some states the jury can ask questions.
This doesn’t make any sense. How can you be the trier of fact and a interested party?
That’s like saying you’re the referee and also the assistant coach of the opposing team.
@@ldegraaf Not in my particular state agency. It's crazy, I know, but we present the evidence and rule on any objections at the same time.
In NH, officers may prosecute offenses which are misdemeanor or violation level offenses. Depending on the size of the department, they may have a designated police prosecutor or a contracted attorney. For felony level cases, those are normally prosecuted by the county attorney (although probable cause hearing subsequent to arrest may be conducted by the officer in district court).
Blind veterans are exempt from having their vehicles registered?? Whaaa?? While I fully support tax amelioration for my fellow vets, in all honesty, I don't want any blind people driving anywhere. (We have enough sighted people who drive like they're blind).
Tell me about it. I had more close calls driving in Austin than Iraq. They drive like idiots.
@unquiet riot Um, the vehicle is registered to the owner even if he has a relative or hires someone to drive them? So calm down.
I have a couple of neighbors who are blind, and they drive better than some of the sighted people around here. Yeah, I'm in a kind of remote place where the law just barely exists.
Blind drivers sound as safe to be around as blind hunters!
@@FIREBRAND38 That's what I said - but there was a charge of "driving a vehicle not registered to him" which is what I was calling out as strange. Many of us have driven vehicles that weren't registered to us, individually. Also, I'm very calm.
In Connecticut we say YUP. & Nope. In Maine we say Ayup= yes and Naa=no. Love you Mike.
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$124 is cheaper than my actual registration cost 😒
You only register annually. You can be fined daily for no registration. $45,260 per year?
Also, running the plate isn't a search. It's in plain view.
I have not read the case, but I would bet dollars to donuts that the case that there's no duty concerns tort law. In other words, the case stands for the principle that certain failures by the government do not create a cause of action. But that's what engineers call a wild ass guess.
He didn’t pledge allegiance nor sign any consent forms like the rest of us have to do every time we pull out our car keys, so case dismissed!
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Phew 😅 glad I live in Australia where we don’t need to sign contracts every time we go for a drive 🤣😆😂
They may do it like in PA. Traffic offenses that go before a magistrate don’t have a prosecuting attorney. Just the officer and the defendant.
Guilty - fines x4 for wasting the courts time, next..
In my state most highway patrol, Sherrifs and city police have auto scanners for license plates.
Very different rules in NH.
running a plate you can see is like when you see a gun laying on the seat of a car. Once the cop has seen it, he can investigate it.
Once again a sov-cit goes to great lengths to avoid being a responsible adult and pay his bills. They all do this and thier sov-cit nonsense always causes them to lose the case.
I think he was saying that he's part of "The Shire Society." A quick browse of their website, you sign a "declaration" of your own sovereignty away from any government, and then rambles on through this guy's talking points about not relying on the government to secure his rights or safety.
It's just a more specific flavor of SovCit, rooted in New Hampshire.
I think it was the officer who rested the case.
Whether cops _should_ be able to run plates without RS or PC is a separate matter. Here in Henderson, the PD has license plate readers on 5 cruisers and they keep the data for 5 years.
He was super pissed at having to pay the Court. lol
Running a plate is not a search in any case...plain view😊
Hi Mike,
the channel "Caught In Providence" does have a similar set up as this court. No Prosecutor and the superb judge is asking the questions. Quite entertaining to watch. Greetings from Germany.
This guy is a legend in his own mind! He is also quite tedious.
Wanna bet the charity he wanted to contribute was his little Sovcit Club, for which he's probably the Treasurer.
24:00 - Oh God! On top of everything else, the man's a mouth-breather! Why am I not surprised!
Well, if the plate looked strange to him, that’s good enough. I mean, look at all these sovcit sites selling illegal plates.
Not sure how things are in the US but in some (most?) states in Australia, police cars have a video camera plugged into a laptop with direct access to the state DMV. It is always running and will flag the officer if it finds a car that is out of rego or if the owner has a suspended or cancelled license. Once flagged, on goes the red and blues.
Love watching y'all on UA-cam. Also appreciate the dogs. As soon as I can afford it I will be getting one of your pink tank tops to be placed on sovereign patrol!!! Love it...
They're great! I've had one of those pink tank tops since summer-time and they're uper soft and cute AF. Only problem is that the lettering fades over time, but I wouldn't worry too much, cuz that's with a lot of wear and tear 😂
In states like Florida, police have scanners on their cars that run plates while they drive, and alert them to the owner of the vehicle if their license is suspended or if the plate is expired. The scanner doesn’t look for probable cause lol. It just scans.
Yeah, looks like he’s grasping at straws here. First, bumper stickers, then some kind of imaginary consent to follow the laws of the state that he is in. Man.
The state he is in is non-competent
God forbid he should hold himself accountable. If you want to change the rules by avoiding them then you have to be prepared for the occasional arrest, fine etc... It's kinda gross how people fighting for civil rights put themselves in harms way/were beaten & battered and this guy thinks what he's doing is on par..
This looks like a traffic court format where the trooper is the state's representative, and there is no DA present. The judge, unlike a jury, gets to ask questions to fill in the evidence he's looking for. You won't see anything like that in a case involving anything beyond a fine.
In MA they use this as a type of "show cause hearing" before the clerk-magistrate refers a "criminal traffic ticket" appeal to a criminal prosecutor, when someone chooses not to plead guilty and pay the fine.
Funny, I don’t remember signing contracts with the national, state, or local authorities to follow the laws in place. The only such contract I ever signed was my enlistment contract where I came under the jurisdiction of UCMJ, but no others. Where does this dude get this?
From that idiot society he's a member of. Their slogan must be I DO NOT CONSENT!
Ask the cashier for the bathroom key; contract! Lol
@Stephen Mintz One, a driver’s license is just proof that I have been properly trained and qualified to operate a motor vehicle. Insurance is a contract with private businesses. Even without those, we’re still required to follow the federal, state, and local laws that are in effect where we live, and no individual contract is required for that. Try again.
@Stephen Mintz Insurance is such a racket, especially health care. I own my own business so I pay $1000 @ month outta pocket for me and my son with a $3000 deductible ergo I take him to the doctor but I never go.
“BLIND Veterans” ? Are Exempt from Purchasing a DRIVERS License in New Hampshire ? 👀🤔😱🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏽❤️🇺🇸🤠🌵 Great Job @Law Talk with Mike 👍🏽
Um, they didn't say driver's license but license plate. The vehicle is registered to the owner even if he has a relative or hires someone to drive them. So calm down, Sherlock.
$100.00 fine after wasting all of the court’s time?? And then he tries his best to get out of paying it to the court??
I never signed anything that said I wouldn't smoke crack so why do I still get arrested when I get caught with it?!
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