this is exactly how I set up my sessions ..I have a template for every channel strip I have and now that I have this hi power comp I can actually get away with it..thx once again David
I have tried it both ways, tape first and tape last, and I settled on tape LAST...you're right, it's a very personal choice and there's no correct answer... Excellent as usual, Dave...
Hey Dave. You taught me this setup a good while back, but someone sent me this video and I decided to watch it anyway! All I can say is great video, and even BETTER courses. 👍🏾
Will try btw it's better choice to send all audio tracks to stereo bus and put tape & VCC on them instead of putting on all tracks don't know if it's possible in studio one but pro tools does very well
@dragon-id5uj I believe the idea is that ; there is first the tape which each unprocessed recording/sound source goes to (like in analogue pre modern studio) and then that goes though desk/processing/effects (channel strips, VCC ect), THEN it all goes to a master mix bus to the Master tape, which has different tape style and settings. the idea is to get max analogue saturation by mimicing the same signal flow enmasse (on mass) I Just think that you could also put a pre amp channel strip + etc - BEFORE the FIRST taping instance beacuse there would always be the desk between the tape and the original sound source in any chain . So (& to save on cpu)( , make that chain first for each track, then bounce each track(bake it in) as if that was the first recording, before then going back through the desk and eventually to master tape Unless I am misunderstanding you, of course, and but i do not think so..
you may want to consider this course, if you are interested in working in the analog workflow. www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com/mixing-with-analog-style-plugins
Interesting. I use a similar setup, but with slightly different plugins and order. Channels usually start with Kazrog True Iron (transformer emulator), then through my console of choice, your very same Bx_SSL 4000E. Then I add VCC, usually the Brit 4K that you also use and finish off hitting tape with IK’s Tape 80. Now, this is a resource hungry plug, so I freeze my tracks. On the buses, I also use VCC and no tape. For the master bus, instead of the Waves Bus compressor, I use Brainworx’s Townhouse, which is awesome and in the same ballpark compression wise. Nice video, mate.
Sorry for my ignorant question but if I want to apply some corrective eq with a different plugin than the channel strip's eq, where should I place it in the chain?
I use an Apollo for recording. So, recording in, would I do unison preamp/EQ to compression to tape emulation going in? And then insert a channel strip on the individual track?
Hello, I really love the video! Very nice! Really. But i still have a question... Should I already do this while producing or only in the mixing phase? Thanks!
Season's Greetings! Great tutorial man, i learn a lot. Can you help me out? for example, I'm done with one track ( dealing for my taste ) this is assumed to be bounced? so I can start the mixing part and get rid of all the analog emulation plugins? Thanks in advance Man, I appreciate it. Bassty of Philippines..
Hi Dave, I'm using my Waves plugins to emulate this template. If I'm going to use Auto-Align on the drum tracks with this template, I'm guessing I should put Auto-Align first, before the Tape Machine. Is this where you would recommend?
But isn’t using the console plugin *and* a channel strip redundant? Channel strips provide their own console emulation on their own, going console-to-console seems like it might cause issues with a faithful emulation and introduce additional processing that wouldn’t be there in a real analog studio workflow.
Yeah I do the same thing. Just put one of my Neve/SSL/API channel strips as the first thing. I put my tape & master buss compressor on the master out. Something tells me my poor 13” MBP is going to crap out with that many plugins running before I’ve even gotten to the specialized ones I usually add. Lol.
At the start you said you'd show us another method that reduces CPU load...but you never did! That's what I'm here for because all those tape plugins is killing my computer 😕
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy I find that what it does to the 3D soundstage is pretty reminiscent of when I worked on a console for a year (specifically the CTC1 Custom and the new SSL emu that just came out). Im about to try and avoid using them though, because the CPU hit is just insane!
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this is exactly how I set up my sessions ..I have a template for every channel strip I have and now that I have this hi power comp I can actually get away with it..thx once again David
Thanks Doc!
I have tried it both ways, tape first and tape last, and I settled on tape LAST...you're right, it's a very personal choice and there's no correct answer...
Excellent as usual, Dave...
Thanks my friend!
Hey Dave. You taught me this setup a good while back, but someone sent me this video and I decided to watch it anyway! All I can say is great video, and even BETTER courses. 👍🏾
Rock on!
I’ve been using this method and never turned back
I add a preamp first, then tape, use transform in studio one (because I use an Mapro 3.1) then channel strip and the rest is like you.
Thanks for watching!
Will try btw it's better choice to send all audio tracks to stereo bus and put tape & VCC on them instead of putting on all tracks don't know if it's possible in studio one but pro tools does very well
You can certainly do that. Thanks for watching
right, that's how i saw it too... glad i'm not the only one thinking so.
@dragon-id5uj I believe the idea is that ; there is first the tape which each unprocessed recording/sound source goes to (like in analogue pre modern studio)
and then that goes though desk/processing/effects (channel strips, VCC ect), THEN it all goes to a master mix bus to the Master tape, which has different tape style and settings.
the idea is to get max analogue saturation by mimicing the same signal flow enmasse (on mass)
I Just think that you could also put a pre amp channel strip + etc - BEFORE the FIRST taping instance beacuse there would always be the desk between the tape and the original sound source in any chain .
So (& to save on cpu)( , make that chain first for each track, then bounce each track(bake it in) as if that was the first recording, before then going back through the desk and eventually to master tape
Unless I am misunderstanding you, of course, and but i do not think so..
Thanks. Very helpful. Wondering though how to set up that template you speak of.
you may want to consider this course, if you are interested in working in the analog workflow.
www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com/mixing-with-analog-style-plugins
Loved the video. I'd love to hear the before and after difference after putting these plugins.
you can demo all the plugins and try that for sure. Thanks for watching
Interesting. I use a similar setup, but with slightly different plugins and order. Channels usually start with Kazrog True Iron (transformer emulator), then through my console of choice, your very same Bx_SSL 4000E. Then I add VCC, usually the Brit 4K that you also use and finish off hitting tape with IK’s Tape 80. Now, this is a resource hungry plug, so I freeze my tracks. On the buses, I also use VCC and no tape. For the master bus, instead of the Waves Bus compressor, I use Brainworx’s Townhouse, which is awesome and in the same ballpark compression wise. Nice video, mate.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks, Dave. Another excellent template in my catalog!
Glad it was helpful!
Hey I enjoy what you share but Why not use the Tape multitrack option with the Softube Tape? I saw you use it before...
You can certainly do that. As I said, you can use any plugins you like.
Sorry for my ignorant question but if I want to apply some corrective eq with a different plugin than the channel strip's eq, where should I place it in the chain?
Before the channel strip
I use an Apollo for recording. So, recording in, would I do unison preamp/EQ to compression to tape emulation going in? And then insert a channel strip on the individual track?
No that's double dipping.
Should I put a tape machine before or after Izotope Ozone in a signal chain?
Before
Ok thanks 👍🏼
when my pc cant handle any more plugins can i buy more ram or this dont work?
it's more than just your RAM, its also your processor
Should I put the tape machine on my instrument busses as well?
Sure, you can
Hello, I really love the video! Very nice! Really. But i still have a question... Should I already do this while producing or only in the mixing phase? Thanks!
Mixing
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy thank u! 🙏🏻
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy I still use this method till this day, and it’s thanks to too🔥🔥🔥
Interesting but I would have loved an A/B comparison without any plugins and with all the plugins to hear the impact.
Thanks for watching!
If I use Softube Tape in Studio One as a mix fx can I still use Slate Digital VTM on the master bus as the master tape?
You can, sure. Try it
Season's Greetings! Great tutorial man, i learn a lot. Can you help me out? for example, I'm done with one track ( dealing for my taste ) this is assumed to be bounced? so I can start the mixing part and get rid of all the analog emulation plugins? Thanks in advance Man, I appreciate it. Bassty of Philippines..
Have no clue what your question means....sorry....LOL
If you bounce or transform the new track will have the inserts printed on the track so yes you could get rid of the plugins to free up CPU after
Pretty interesting!
Thanks for watching
Hi Dave, I'm using my Waves plugins to emulate this template. If I'm going to use Auto-Align on the drum tracks with this template, I'm guessing I should put Auto-Align first, before the Tape Machine. Is this where you would recommend?
That is correct
But isn’t using the console plugin *and* a channel strip redundant? Channel strips provide their own console emulation on their own, going console-to-console seems like it might cause issues with a faithful emulation and introduce additional processing that wouldn’t be there in a real analog studio workflow.
It depends on the channel strip.
Yeah I do the same thing. Just put one of my Neve/SSL/API channel strips as the first thing. I put my tape & master buss compressor on the master out. Something tells me my poor 13” MBP is going to crap out with that many plugins running before I’ve even gotten to the specialized ones I usually add. Lol.
At the start you said you'd show us another method that reduces CPU load...but you never did! That's what I'm here for because all those tape plugins is killing my computer 😕
Sorry.....put the plugins on the busses only. Thats how you do it
No (colour) channel strip or other flavour on fx channels?
nope
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy ok thanks
Great video! Keep doing a great work! What waves plugins would you use in the same scenario? Can you please recommend?
NLS, Kamer Tape
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Thanx! I have Waves NLS, J37 and SSL 4000! I will definitely try it out. Keep doing a great work!
Thanks for the tutorial! But, let's say I only have 1 bass track, do I still need to sendvit to a bus?
No need too
Another question (hope you don't mind): is the master bus the same as the master track on REAPER?
@@andriealinsangao613 in reaper you can bus to anything so your master track can be you master bus or any other master bus if you're doing submixes
No mixfx? For me, thats the most concole sounding thing out there!
I'm not a fan of the Mix FX myself, but if you like them then that's all the matters! :)
@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy I find that what it does to the 3D soundstage is pretty reminiscent of when I worked on a console for a year (specifically the CTC1 Custom and the new SSL emu that just came out).
Im about to try and avoid using them though, because the CPU hit is just insane!
@@Lucidaydreamer
What SSL emu are your talking about?
No pre? in in the chain? hmmmmmm
So I guess you don't realize that the Channel strip plugin emulates the preamp of the desk.
Can’t we just put all those plugins in a Aux/Send Channel instead of putting it on each track???
That;s missing the point but yes you can do that if you like