Thanks for the re-assurance, I've started my gear collection in a similar fashion. I starred work for a large tree company a year ago and I'm climbing almost daily. My city provides a weekly curb side grapple truck service for yard waste, so I"m hedging the truck expense by toting the messy/sharp/awkward gear in a rooftop cargo box, intended for skis.
@@In-The-Trees I sent a comment before but it didn’t post . In it I was wanting to tell you that they make a Milwaukee cord to put the battery on your side . $30 on Amazon
I've done some pretty big removals with no rigging at all. I have a truck and 8 ft trailer a chainsaw (455 rancher )handheld leaf blower some chains are come along and a 100 ft half inch rope
Love Your videos man. My uncle and I are beginning to talk about starting a tree service business since he’s been doing it on his own for a few years now. So starting small is what we need to do and this is excellent !!!
I'm based in the UK and we have some different ways of doing things because our laws are different but as a guy just starting out, this video is amazing. I like the slight differences in kit we have where lots of guys over here don't use slings and rings, we just go straight for pulleys and using unions because lots of our trees have smooth bark. Overall it's refreshing to see that even with different practices, our kit is all pretty universal. A note to anyone who sees this that's in the UK or a place where you have a lot more small to medium sized trees, you can easily get away with saving some money on a big saw by buying something like an MS261 or equivalent 50-60cc saw and running up to a 25" bar. I run an 18" on mine and even on big ash trees, I just double-bar the trunks once they're limbed down. Happy cutting everyone, stay safe.
We have 2 trucks. A gmc 1500 that wasn't in the video, it carries the rigging and the stuff we use for clean up as well as tows the chipper. I didn't do a very good job explaining that in the video. So we take everything at once, sometimes if the trailer is to full after the job we'll leave that and I'll come back to get that.
Out of curiosity…. Why would you not recommend the battery powered echo top handle for somebody just starting off? Pawn shop near me has one with the charger for $300, and I was seriously considering it
That is a good price. Don't get me wrong, I love and hate that saw. My biggest concern if that was your only saw is it being under powered for your removals. Check out the milwaukee top handle, I've used it for the past year and absolutely love the thing. It's worth the extra $200 or what ever the difference is.
I have the 2500T and I love it. The majority of my work is pruning so that changes the dynamics a bit. I do use it sometimes for small removals. I used it the other day to limb out a 16" DBH sweet gum and it took care of all of the limbs and enough stem wood for me to switch to a rear handle with a bigger bar. That did use up all of the battery but it did pretty well. It's my favorite top handle saw to use right now. I have used the 192, 193, 540 gas top handle, Milwaukee top handle, 330t and maybe one or two others. The 2500t is my favorite to use right now. But, if you are cutting in seasoned oak I don't recommend it. You need something with more grunt. Also, my batteries don't seem to like cold weather too much. They have to get warmed up before they operate well. The Milwaukee top handle I have used some as well. It has more grunt but it doesn't have as fast of a chain speed as the Echo 2500T. If it did I would like it a lot more. It's also significantly wider, heavier, and out of balance compared to the 2500T. Milwaukee should be doing a refresh of that saw soon and I am really curious to see what they do. Milwaukee now has a pro-oriented 70cc equivalent rear handle battery saw that makes me want to wait and see what a new top handle can do. I do know their High Output batteries that are the 8 and 12 ah batteries suck. They deteriorate in capacity pretty quickly. The new Forge batteries are supposed to be much better.
I've got a pair of Carolina boots. I look boots that are tall and have a good heel, as well as a steel shank. You don't have to get these hand crafted ones, you can find a good pair for 100 - 150 bucks.
Insurance, if You're not insured against damaging the customers property You're never going to make real money. Almost all successful trees guys have a wife or family who front the money to buy the truck & trailer
Would have loved to have somebody front me money in order to get started! It's not my story tho. Also Insurance is absolutely a must! Thanks for bringing that up!
Tip Top, Number 1 thing you need if you wanna start your own Tree Company is at least very Minimum have 6 Consecutive years of Tree Work Experience and that’s Pushing it. If I was able to make Laws I would make it a Mandatory 10 Consecutive years of Documented experience. There is way way Waaayy Too Many Deaths in Our Industry. I’ve been Fortunate and have 20yrs of Documented Consecutive Experience in Removals and Pruning.
Love the set up.
Another good starter top handle saw is the echo 355t. Has more power than the 2511 and I think it’s the same price or cheaper.
Thanks man! And that's a great thought, I've never ran one so kind of forgot about that saw.
Thank you brother just bought a trailer like yours this should be a nice side hustle
Thanks for the re-assurance, I've started my gear collection in a similar fashion. I starred work for a large tree company a year ago and I'm climbing almost daily. My city provides a weekly curb side grapple truck service for yard waste, so I"m hedging the truck expense by toting the messy/sharp/awkward gear in a rooftop cargo box, intended for skis.
Dude this is an excellent vid.
Thanks man!
Good video big fella! Good to see ya growing!! Stay safe
Haha thanks man! You too! 💪
@@In-The-Trees I sent a comment before but it didn’t post . In it I was wanting to tell you that they make a Milwaukee cord to put the battery on your side . $30 on Amazon
@@ericchristison9680 dude that's sick! Thanks for the tip!
@@In-The-Trees thought maybe fasten to the lanyard? Dunno I thought about getting one . It would make the saw a lot lighter
I've done some pretty big removals with no rigging at all. I have a truck and 8 ft trailer a chainsaw (455 rancher )handheld leaf blower some chains are come along and a 100 ft half inch rope
I started with the manual Stihl polesaw and corona hand saw and 8 ft latter 20 yrs ago
I started a very similar way - old as truck and atv trailers lol. Would do it again. Sweat equity!
Best job in the world!
Love Your videos man. My uncle and I are beginning to talk about starting a tree service business since he’s been doing it on his own for a few years now. So starting small is what we need to do and this is excellent !!!
Glad you're finding value in them!! Good luck man, it's a journey. :)
I'm based in the UK and we have some different ways of doing things because our laws are different but as a guy just starting out, this video is amazing. I like the slight differences in kit we have where lots of guys over here don't use slings and rings, we just go straight for pulleys and using unions because lots of our trees have smooth bark. Overall it's refreshing to see that even with different practices, our kit is all pretty universal. A note to anyone who sees this that's in the UK or a place where you have a lot more small to medium sized trees, you can easily get away with saving some money on a big saw by buying something like an MS261 or equivalent 50-60cc saw and running up to a 25" bar. I run an 18" on mine and even on big ash trees, I just double-bar the trunks once they're limbed down. Happy cutting everyone, stay safe.
Glad you found value in the video! It is awesome to see the different styles over the internet.
Awesome video I’m in lawn care and thinking 🤔 about doing more tree work we already do some but thinking about trying to step up my game
It's a great line of work!
Question..so when you have a job do you take the Avant in the trailer and then come back and pick up the chipper or ,take everything at once...
We have 2 trucks. A gmc 1500 that wasn't in the video, it carries the rigging and the stuff we use for clean up as well as tows the chipper. I didn't do a very good job explaining that in the video. So we take everything at once, sometimes if the trailer is to full after the job we'll leave that and I'll come back to get that.
Really liked what you had to share. Especially how you kept talking about budgeting for your business. A lot of people domt talk about that.
Glad you found some value in the video!
Great video!
Thanks man!
@@In-The-Trees You’re welcome
So what would you recommend first? Chipper or dump trailer? Or something else as a first big equipment purchase
Dump trailer if you dont have a dump truck to blow the chips in already. Shoveling sucjs.
Out of curiosity…. Why would you not recommend the battery powered echo top handle for somebody just starting off? Pawn shop near me has one with the charger for $300, and I was seriously considering it
That is a good price. Don't get me wrong, I love and hate that saw. My biggest concern if that was your only saw is it being under powered for your removals. Check out the milwaukee top handle, I've used it for the past year and absolutely love the thing. It's worth the extra $200 or what ever the difference is.
I have the 2500T and I love it. The majority of my work is pruning so that changes the dynamics a bit. I do use it sometimes for small removals. I used it the other day to limb out a 16" DBH sweet gum and it took care of all of the limbs and enough stem wood for me to switch to a rear handle with a bigger bar. That did use up all of the battery but it did pretty well. It's my favorite top handle saw to use right now. I have used the 192, 193, 540 gas top handle, Milwaukee top handle, 330t and maybe one or two others. The 2500t is my favorite to use right now. But, if you are cutting in seasoned oak I don't recommend it. You need something with more grunt. Also, my batteries don't seem to like cold weather too much. They have to get warmed up before they operate well.
The Milwaukee top handle I have used some as well. It has more grunt but it doesn't have as fast of a chain speed as the Echo 2500T. If it did I would like it a lot more. It's also significantly wider, heavier, and out of balance compared to the 2500T. Milwaukee should be doing a refresh of that saw soon and I am really curious to see what they do. Milwaukee now has a pro-oriented 70cc equivalent rear handle battery saw that makes me want to wait and see what a new top handle can do. I do know their High Output batteries that are the 8 and 12 ah batteries suck. They deteriorate in capacity pretty quickly. The new Forge batteries are supposed to be much better.
Man I fucking love the 500I that thing will rip thru anything
Facts
Thanks for sharing! Be safe
Thanks man! You too!
Us central Michigan guys need to stick together. Got my trailer from becks too lol 😂
Lmao love it.
3 mins in and your bringing back fond memories of brush chopping..more gp comments to come
Haha if you know, you know.
Look at General Liability ins.
💯 agree cs590 with 24" bar. I like a 200' line of samson true blue for natural crotch and general rigging. 🙌
You're doing great! That's a lot of growth for being in business for a short period of time!
Thank you!
what kind of boots do you wear when you're climbing with spikes
I've got a pair of Carolina boots. I look boots that are tall and have a good heel, as well as a steel shank. You don't have to get these hand crafted ones, you can find a good pair for 100 - 150 bucks.
I still use mt Stihl 193T,, so light and easy to use for smaller limbs.
Yeah I love that one too never had much luck with echos commercial saws
Cool walk through. I started with a bronco and a 12ft trailer.
Haha good times.
Great vid. I remember the days of 'load brush, on the Trailor and cutting it up then burning it. 38 years worth. shredders and Chippers are Amazing.
Amen!
I've been burning the brush as well. What do you do with the wood chips/mulch after you chip it?
@@motomaniac-cw9vy we have a spot in town that will take them for free.
thanks brother , love keeping it real
Appreciate you!
Good on ya !
winter around the corner, especially if your in the u p
Haha I'm not that far up there, but it's getting cold!
That woodchipper laugh makes me want one.
Honesty thank you makes the decision making easier
Thank you, I'm really glad it helps!
I hate when the crew leaves tools on the job
All plastic shovels around the chippers.
Just don't feed it threw
Insurance, if You're not insured against damaging the customers property You're never going to make real money. Almost all successful trees guys have a wife or family who front the money to buy the truck & trailer
Would have loved to have somebody front me money in order to get started! It's not my story tho. Also Insurance is absolutely a must! Thanks for bringing that up!
Potato rake is a great tool for stump grindings
Haha "were never in buckets, honestly"...literally 1 minute later you say "just purchased a new harness for a bucket truck"
Better to have one when you need it than not.
It’ll save your body too! I can set a truck up faster than I can with climbing. Works with palms too F climbing them!
Tip Top, Number 1 thing you need if you wanna start your own Tree Company is at least very Minimum have 6 Consecutive years of Tree Work Experience and that’s Pushing it. If I was able to make Laws I would make it a Mandatory 10 Consecutive years of Documented experience. There is way way Waaayy Too Many Deaths in Our Industry. I’ve been Fortunate and have 20yrs of Documented Consecutive Experience in Removals and Pruning.
I personally think all should need is a can do attitude and a solid plan.