Why Obi-Wan was Actually a lot Colder than MF’s Realise: Star Wars Tactical Breakdowns

[@neofulcrum5013]

Obi wan is a prime example of how the worst days that life throws at us doesn’t have to break us down. This man lost his mentor, his lover, his brother and the order he devoted his life too. Yet none of these things destroyed him.

[@santi_super_stunts2573]

Let’s see the joker get a try on obi

[@tidewater5679]

@@santi_super_stunts2573 Jim Gordon has already proven that

[@BladeMcCloud]

@@santi_super_stunts2573 The Joker has literally nothing on a Jedi.

[@minicle426]

@@santi_super_stunts2573 The Joker is overated and relies on ludicrous plot armour frankly. One bullet is all it takes.

[@paria1763]

@@BladeMcCloud it would fun to watch them taunt each other though

[@sirsplintfastthepungent1373]

Why did Kenobi always offer his opponents a peaceful surrender?
Because he had the moral high ground.

[@jonahmann]

ba dum chsh

[@mr.boomguy]

Finally, a deferent perspective on the meme. Seeing dozens of the same comments on multiple can get really stale really quickly

[@mukkaar]

Obi-Wan was basically perfect example of Jedi, he was not emotionless, he felt like everyone else, but he was in perfect control of those emotions. This is how he could be both kind and coldly pragmatic at the same time. Basically realizing that kindness trough most efficient manner.

[@ramblinnernd5905]

If he was truly cold he would’ve exposed Anakin for his forbidden marriage. But he remained a bro and the most ideal Jedi ever, to the end.
Hmm… Bro + Jedi = Brodi
Yes he was THE BRODI!

[@MonkeyJedi99]

To borrow from another sci-fi property:
“Demons run when a good man goes to war. Night will fall and drown the sun, when a good man goes to war. Friendship dies and true love lies, night will fall and the dark will rise, when a good man goes to war.”

[@AndrewAce.]

I agree, Obi Wan was pretty much the Jedi ideal...

[@earthgrazer2164]

@@AndrewAce. Aswell as Grand Master Luke (in legends)

[@AndrewAce.]

@@earthgrazer2164 Like Master, like student...

[@JettQuasar]

Obi-Wan is one of the most popular characters in Star Wars, even topping Luke Skywalker on some lists I've seen.

[@MusicFan752]

Out of all the Jedi, Kenobi is easily my all time favorite.

[@CartesianNullification]

One word Ewan!

[@Dwendele]

Clone Wars era Obi Wan has become probably my favorite character

[@f0rtunat010]

anybody’s better than luke

[@geetslys]

He is definitely Top 5!

[@zexalbrony4799]

Another good point that shows off his pragmatic side, but also shows how he still doesn't compromise his beliefs is seen in both the Citadel arc and the unfinished Utapau arc.
In the Citadel arc, when Master Peil died, they took time to have a funeral for him, while Obi-Wan did say they had to be quick because they didn't have much time and Peil would have wanted them to complete the mission, they still took a bit of time to give Peil a proper funeral.
And on Utapau, even though he and Anakin were trying to escape with the giant Kyber Crystal, they still took time to bury the dead enemies they had killed, even when Anakin disagreed, Obi-Wan pointed out they were still living creatures who deserved some form of respect.
Obi-Wan was willing to kill and sacrifice if it was absolutely necessary, but when he did, he always did so compassionately and gave the dead the respect they deserved. He did care greatly about living creatures no matter who they were.

[@geetslys]

Yes, it was even shown when he beat Anakin on Mustafar. He let the force choose the path for Anakin's future instead of killing his brother.

[@zexalbrony4799]

@@geetslys True.
But that decision also lead to Vader, who caused like millions of people to suffer and die. But it also eventually lead to Anakin's redemption and him killing Sidious, thus saving billions of lives, so overall I think we can say Obi-Wan broken even on that descion.

[@ziaali319]

Yeah remember when he cared about his padawan who was burning at the edge of a lava lake on mustafar?

[@darthsquid2107]

@@geetslys Yeah I think he left Anakin partly because he couldn't bring himself to finish it. He could've shown mercy towards Anakin. He would have known that if Anakin were to die on Mustafar it would've been slow and agonizing as he is burned alive. I even believe there was a cut scene where Anakin begged for his master to help him. Yet Obi Wan still just left him there to hopefully die from his injuries, but not after suffering immensely. Obi wan would have been losing his composure, but quite honestly I feel like if he would have led with Anakin being like a brother to him, instead of lightly mocking(trolling) Anakin when Anakin is already on edge, then maybe they wouldn't have fought in the first place. Then perhaps Anakin could've helped destroy the final Sith Lord instead of being the foundation of a tyrannical empire. Could've raised his kids with padmé at his side. Instead Obi Wan walked away without finishing the job causing him to fail what he was sent there to do just as Yoda had failed to stop Sidious.

[@reddeaddude2187]

The Original trilogy was already a thing. Vader had to exist, they wrote themselves into a corner.

[@alwaysplotting2096]

Hard to believe such an ideal Jedi was trained by a maverick of that order.

[@skatingforjesus2410]

Exactly the reason why he is my guy

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

I understand that it was by design. Young Obi-Wan was a bit of a rebel himself, and so he was paired with a master who never followed the rules so that he would rebel against his master and become a stickler for the rules. 😄

[@jimmysmith2249]

@@ThinWhiteAxe A tricky little guy, Yoda is.

[@rustyshackleford9811]

@@ThinWhiteAxe this guy gets it. May the Force be with you my friend

[@blackc1479]

It's also a sign of that stagnation of the order as a whole, when those considered maverick are the best examples of what the order should be.
Damn. That just gave me a great speculation. Posting it as a new thread...

[@keatoncampbell820]

Dude his venator being named "The Negotiator" was one of my favorite things from the clone wars! That animated series did a lot more narrative building than the prequals as far as characters are concerned.

[@SuperGreyWulf]

Well it added more context for the prequels and more story, while developing characters further.

[@datboyhimself5674]

i wish it never got destroyed

[@FoxHound-ut1hu]

Negotiations always go better when you have big guns to back it up.

[@tylerriddle7748]

The third movie he's called the negotiator by grievous the line ah yes the negotiator

[@sanddagger36]

Obi-wan went from being unable to properly duel against Darth Maul even with Qui-gon's help to being confident enough to jump down in the middle of an enemy base and face a cyborg wielding four light sabers.

[@darkprinceofdorne]

Obi-Wan withstood the battle against Anakin, who is basically the Force Jesus, and emerged victorious after literal fiery hell with lava waterfalls. He’s The Jedi.

[@sanddagger36]

@@darkprinceofdorne lol, most people say ewon McGregor looks like jesus in episode 2

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

@@darkprinceofdorne his saver form was literally designed for offence mainly. Everything about the way he did things was to save and not take lives. Unlike many Jedi, he was willing to admit his mistakes, and did it openly. He was a Jedi we all should try to be like.

[@Themfeels101]

@@TeenWithACarrotIDK Obi-wan's main form is Soresu which provided maximum defensive coverage, making it a mainly defensive form. it was Kenobi's mastery of Soresu had developed to the point where he could compete with Dooku.

[@belgarath6508]

@@sanddagger36 Jesus looks like McGregor in AoTC.

[@GnarledStaff]

Note that Sun Tsu warns that an enemy will fight harder if cornered. Offering foes an opportunity to surrender is a useful way to undercut the enemies willingness to fight. Even if the leaders refuse, the offer gets the enlosted folk thinking that maybe they dont need to fight.

[@chrisjames1601]

Id like people to talk more about how they treated kenobi and skywalker as celebrities it gives new context to alot of things in the shows

[@benjaminbierley2074]

Since they were a pair Palpatine couldn't avoid Obi-wan getting some of the publicity he was throwing Anakin's way to pump him up, though he was probably confident that his end game with order 66 would wash away any popularity Obi-wan had, while leaving Anakin with all the accolades when the dust settled...if Anakin hadn't lost on Mustafar and forced Sidious to trash that plan.

[@minnumseerrund]

Myea, like how did Luke never hear about that other Skywalker who was a galactic celebrity war-hero ? Or instead of going "Obi-Wan Kenobi? I wonder if 'Old Ben' Kenobi knows this guy." he might have, ya'know, recognized a Jedi-General known through-out the entire damn Galaxy? But okay, nobody knows about the Jedi and the Force a mere 17 years after the rise of the Empire, so sure, bring on more plot holes I guess :p

[@justacryptid4687]

@@minnumseerrund to be fair, luke grew up in a moisture farm on Tatooine, not the most connected of all societies, and the empire had complete control of information

[@WileeCoyote1516]

@@minnumseerrund well like Benjamin said above Palps didn't expect Anakin to lose on mustafar and the goal was for Anakin to emerge from the clone wars as a hero who fought to protect the Republic against the corrupt Jedi order but that wasn't really an option after he became Vader so the emperor likely suppressed tales of Anakins exploits instead.

[@CollinMcLean]

@@WileeCoyote1516 Plus Luke was born post order 66. It's likely that Palpatine may have had a much more difficult time slandering Obi-Wan's name than he did the Jedi order and so may have opted to just avoid mention of Obi-Wan entirely. On top of the fact he grew up on a rural farm in Hutt controlled space.

[@u.v.s.5583]

Master Kenobi was a dark master of negotiation. He was so skilled he could even negotiate legs and arms off commander Skywalker.

[@valmid5069]

*What sets Kenobi from many wise mentors/heroes archetypes is that most of them would be discouraged and disillusioned when highlighted by writers with anti hero shades and post western themes (ex. Sequels Trilogy’s Luke or X-Men’s Logan), Obi Wan faced such hardships and still trolls his opponents with style*

[@goodmind4940]

prepare for disillusioned Kenobi in the show tho

[@lawrencegreen7191]

@@goodmind4940 Well the interview said Obi-Wan was discouraged at the beginning of the show, so that's not a big deal, I guess?

[@7ylerD]

You could’ve just said: “He cut off a dude’s arm in a bar fight with a laser sword, and just walked away like it was no big deal.”

[@wompastompa3692]

Twice.

[@ItsJustVirgil]

“I believe you’re all acquainted with the collection of half-truths and hyperbole that is Obi-Wan Kenobi.”
- Duchess Satine Kryze

[@jacksonyon5276]

The man that’s not brave enough for politics but passionately expresses his allegiance to the republic to democracy

[@geetslys]

Only when it matters 😂

[@scepta101]

Average centrist basically. “I am apolitical. Wait, what do you mean loudly espousing my political beliefs is a political action?”

[@jordyjohn2275]

I’m pretty sure we knew how cold Obi-Wan was when he left his brother Anakin to burn alive on the fiery shores of Mustafar

[@ramblinnernd5905]

He was probably so conflicted with feeling betrayed but also recognizing his partner and friend. I think Anakin fell on those shores through his own choice. While it would be merciful to kill him he must’ve felt he deserved it.

[@abandonallhope.1040]

Dude low-key deserved it though, for slaughtering his colleagues and those kids like lambs.

[@AlystrZelland]

Not Anakin, but Vader

[@abandonallhope.1040]

@@AlystrZelland Anakin chose to become Vader so they’re the same person

[@thered1s276]

@@abandonallhope.1040 I mean... they literally are the same person. Anakin's redemption on the Death Star is proof of this.

[@Meravokas]

Grievous in Episode 3 "Ah, General Kenobi. The Negotiator."
Obiwan "You act like we haven't met a dozen times before. How hurtful, General..."

[@craigharrison2090]

Obi-Wan's internal monologue: "Say ma name bee hatch!"

[@thepuffin4050]

Next up: "Why Hoth Is A Lot Colder Than MFs Realize"

[@JohnIsaacXIV]

Title made me laugh ngl

[@ominouspuppet4556]

Especially General Hoth from the Darth Bane novel.

[@primary2630]

@@ominouspuppet4556 thats prob why they named the ice cold planet after Lord Hoth cause he was an og

[@EntelSidious_gamzeylmz]

@@ominouspuppet4556 was that the jedi general in the first book?

[@antoniobrown247]

😭😂love the tittle man

[@nuyabuisness7526]

That is how you right a good man that is also incredibly deadly. They attempt to find every alternative to fighting first, so that when the moment comes for violence they go into it with absolute ferocity and moral clarity.

[@Scott_the_Celt]

Maybe it's just me, but I see Obi-Wan as a lesser version of Revan. A great strategist but on a smaller scale, a cold general willing to sacrifice but to a lesser degree. Plus he never fell to the dark side

[@placeholdername3818]

Revan is just Clone Wars era Anakin and Obi-Wan fusing.

[@ElendielPlaysEU]

@@placeholdername3818 thats why revans a fan favourite

[@chriscanul4075]

I think the best quote that describes Kenobi is "I will do what I must," since it not only has a bit of sarcasm in the tone but shows he will do what it takes to bring about victory

[@AlmondFisk]

The Obi-Wan Thesis: or, how I learned to stop worrying and love the high ground
Obi-Wan doesn't need to be on the high ground, the high ground just needs to exist within the battle; Obi-Wan knows that when he has the low ground, he really has the high ground, from a certain point of view.
Look at his battle record:
Maul: Has low ground, wins
Dooku: No high ground, loses
Dooku rematch: No high ground, loses
Greivous: Has low ground, wins
Vader: Has high ground, wins
Vader rematch: No high ground, loses
Obi-Wan with the high/low ground is canonically the most powerful Jedi. This is fact. Had Yoda not denied his request to battle The Senate with typical Jedi arrogance, Obi-Wan could have defeated Palpatine in the Senate building, which housed a variety of different altitudes; this was designed so that the Chancellor could always have the moral high ground in political debates. But Obi-wan didn't fight The Senate, and Yoda soon learned that you can't cleave the Sheev in a normal 1v1. It took the Tusken Raiders years of conflict against Old Ben Kenobi to grasp his superiority in terrain advantage, as you see them visibly flee in A New Hope when they realize he holds the low (inverse-high) ground; this was the optimal strategy against a near-invincible opponent.
Yoda is shorter than virtually every other fighter, which gives him a permanent low-ground disadvantage; however, his saber-fighting style utilizes a flipping-heavy technique in order to negate this weakness for a temporary window. You'll notice that, after falling from the central podium in The Senate's building, he immediately retreats upon realizing he is on the lowest ground. You'll also notice that, while training Luke, he rides on him like a mount, to gain the intellectual high ground and accelerate Luke's training. Obi-Wan's defensive Form III lightsaber style synergizes with his careful military maneuvers; as he only strikes when prepared, he can always hold the strategic high ground. (The business on Cato Neimodia doesn't count.) You'll come to realize that this is why Commander Cody's artillery strike failed against Obi-Wan, when hundreds of Jedi were killed in similar attacks. Cody failed to grasp the strategic situation, as the Jedi Master's elevation was superior to his by hundreds of meters, making him virtually unkillable. (You'll notice that all the Jedi killed in Order 66 were on level ground with the clones, thereby assuring their demise.) Had Cody taken his time and engaged the Jedi on even terrain, he would have succeeded. Obi-Wan subsequently retreated under the surface of the lake, so that he could maintain the topographical low/high ground. This is why Obi-Wan is so willing to fight against impossible odds to the point where he thrusts himself in immediate danger; when your probability of victory is 1-to-10, you have the statistical (and therefore strategic) low ground, a numerical advantage when you use your point of view to flip the value to 10/1 . Almost losing is, in Obi-Wan's case, certain victory.
As we all know, spinning is a good trick. However, only the Chosen One can spin outside of a starfighter. Palpatine tried spinning, but he lost due to this technique (but this was intentional, as losing gave him the emotional high ground when Anakin arrived). The reason for this is that spinning provides a yin-yang approach to combat (based in Eastern philosophy on balance), giving the spinner the high ground from above and below. Only the Chosen One can master the spin, as it is their destiny to maintain balance in the universe. This is why Obi-Wan was so emotional after defeating Vader on Mustafar; he expected to lose the high ground to the spin, but Anakin fell to the dark side and could no longer use his signature trick, becoming the very thing he swore to destroy. Additionally, Anakin told Obi-Wan that, from "[his] point of view, the Jedi are evil". This broadens Anakin's mind to the concept of relativity in the context of the moral high ground, a mere step away from tactical comprehension.
Anakin doesn't hate sand for the reasons he told Padme; all Jedi hate sand, as the battlefield can rapidly change between low and high ground on multiple vectors, so your perspective must be from a certain three-dimensional point of view in order to comprehend who holds the high ground. This is the only reason why Obi-Wan killed Maul in Rebels. This is also the reason why Obi-Wan hates flying; there is no gravity in space, therefore there is no high or low ground from any frame of reference (This also negates the spinning trick). In ANH, Vader proves his newfound mastery by engaging Obi on perfectly even ground. However, Obi-Wan intentionally sacrifices himself on the Death Star, so that he could train Luke from a higher plane of existence, thereby giving him the metaphysical high ground.
Why was Vader so invested in the construction and maintenance of the Death Star? Because he knows Obi-wan can't have the high ground if there's no ground left. As seen through the events of the Clone Wars, Obi-Wan was known to be on friendly terms with Senator Organa, whose homeworld held large quantities of mountainous terrain, the perfect habitat for a Jedi Master. Grand Moff Tarkin was already in position to destroy Alderaan as a first target, as the distance from Scarif to Alderaan was too vast to reach between the escape and recapture of the Tantive IV, even at 1.0 lightspeed. Alderaan had been the initial target all along, as Obi-Wan with the high ground was the primary threat to the Death Star. How? Because a moon-sized space station would have some form of gravitational pull, thereby negating Obi-Wan's zero-gravity weakness; Obi-Wan with the perpetual high-ground in a low-orbit starfighter would easily be able to fire proton torpedoes through a ventilation shaft, although the Empire was uncertain of the specific weakness of the Death Star planted by Galen Erso (who was a good friend).
In Return of the Jedi, you can see that the Throne Room contains a variety of different altitudes; Palpatine placed these there to ensure Vader's defeat. However, Sheev failed to realize that his weakness was no ground, and should have covered that useless gaping pit which does nothing.
A common misconception is the idea of a 'prostrate position' version of the high ground, wherein Obi-Wan lies flat on his back, giving him tactical superiority from his point of view. However, this strategy is futile, as for the high ground to come into effect, there must be a differential between parties on both the x-axis and y-axis to a moderately significant variation from both absolutes (Angles only a Sith would deal in). For Obi-Wan's high ground powers to be in full effect, he must stand between 15 and 75 degrees (π/12 to 5π/12 radians) diagonal from his opponent(s) on any quadrant of the area circle; this has been dubbed the Trigonometric Perspective Diagram. The total effect for conventional high ground advantage can be calculated via the MetaComm Equation, or f(x) = lim 0→x π/12 | 7π/12 5π/12 | 11π/12 Ʃ(x) (2tan(x) / 3sin(x) + (log10Δ)) * cΦ
Δ = distance on hypotenuse (meters)
Φ = Surrounding Force [c (variable) * β (Earth Gravity) * (pressure (psi)/2.2)]
'x' refers to the angle of contact between the two parties on, with advantage being based purely on position on the Y-axis, as the vast majority of force users base their perception on elevation rather than spacial relativity. The power of gravitational force has great effect on the high ground; too weak, and the high ground holds no traction; too strong and the ground becomes the real enemy. Experimentation has proven that the high ground typically holds significant value between .8 and 1.4 β (Earth Gravities) with maximum impact standing roughly equal to 1.05.
Pressure is equally important, as it is a surrounding force attached to gravity (the high ground has famously low impact in aquatic environments). Pressure(λ) is measured in pounds per square inch (psi), to be used as a gravity multiplier (or division if pressure is sub-atmospheric; Φ (Surrounding Force) is a variable defined as β * 2.2λ , with no metric value assigned due to its singular application in the MetaComm equations.
In situations regarding Obi-Wan and his relativistic point of view, you must substitute the Quadrilateral MetaComm Equation (the Jedi Master function), f(x) = lim 0→x minmaxƩ (2tan(x) / 3sin(x) ) * (1.2)cΦ [min = (|cos(x)| = 1) | (|sin(x)| = 1) + π/12 ), max = (|cos(x)| = 1) | (|sin(x)| = 1) + 5π/12 ].
The viable Φ field is expanded, as Obi-Wan has taken advantage of the high ground in so many different environments that he simply uses it more efficiently, and the min/max values apply due to his multidimensional point of view, evidenced by the Trigonometric Perspective Diagram. Additionally, the distance factor does not affect Obi-Wan, as spacetime can be perseptively compressed, giving him the ideal Δ value from his point of reference.
In conclusion, Obi-Wan abuses spatial relativity and Taoist doctrine in order to always invoke his high-ground powers. To properly analyze the strategic genius of Kenobi, one must hold advanced knowledge in Philosophy, Mathematics, and Calculus-based Physics, and be able to integrate these topics together.

[@LimitBreakr424]

Yeah

[@seaneaston1040]

I read the whole thing, and had a good laugh several times.
Post this bad boy on Reddit and let the karma roll in

[@sidclauwers5945]

This comment is genius and under rated

[@zavhyatta9795]

I love this copypasta.

[@kentan00]

You get a sense of this during the battle of Coruscant when he called Anakin off from helping Oddballs squadron.
"They are doing their job, so we can do ours."

[@lawrencegreen7191]

Obi-Wan's personality decides that he could be both kind and rational. His goal is always to save the majorities(in ROTS he wants to end the battle early by saving Palpatine as quickly as possible)and to get his job done well(as hardeen arc demonstrated ).

[@Claudia-pm7wg]

His stint on Melidaan shaped him and his tactics. He had experience with war and was pretty skilled at it.

[@williamcostigan91]

Being a child soldier at 13 will do that to a guy.

[@rustyshackleford9811]

Everyone should check out the Clone Wars: Wild Space it's really good and shines some light on Obi-Wan and Bale Organa's relationship. It's really freakin good

[@minicle426]

They practically act like a married couple in that. :P

[@rustyshackleford9811]

@@minicle426 lol pretty much.. but I never really cared for Bale until I listened to that book

[@firstofficerrose1588]

The audio book version is really well done! And I do love Wild Space, or, as I sometimes like to call it, "Obi-Wan and the Terrible, Horrible, No-Good, Very Bad Sith Torture Planet"

[@norbertsreignofterror9418]

This is my favourite book i have no words i just love it that much. All the characterization is on point and through Bails perspective we see a much more nuanced version of the Jedi and we perfectly see that balance of cold/compassionate that is obi-wan. Banger book

[@muhamedquraishi]

Thanks again for making a video on Atton Rand he is my favorite character in all of KOTOR his story is one of the greatest stories of redemption in the franchise.

[@SenVerweij]

Wrong vid buddy

[@jaebird3077]

Yeah I've been playing through KOTOR2 again and I was really happy to see that. I started having Atton around more haha

[@picklechin3061]

Are you an angel?

[@MalfosRanger]

Pure pazaak.

[@masteroftheassassins]

It’s unfortunately true, but war changes all people. Especially those who survive war.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

And pray you don't break apart and snap during the peace.

[@noahp67890]

but war… war never changes

[@videocrowsnest5251]

Video idea suggestion: Could you take a look at the various times the Jedi High Councils in different known eras made a call/decision on something major, and how many of those times their call was either the right one, or the wrong one, plus examining why they make said call. As one such person who has that kind of vibe about them, I get the feeling a lot of other people also think of the Jedi High Council as being at times rather stupid/making many serious mistakes that even at the time of making them were done with rather flimsy reasoning or any lack of basic deductive or reasoning skills. So thus It would be interesting to see how much the Jedi High Councils of various ages are actually batting, and how many balls they in reality dropped. Is it just a misconception that they were a buncha ulta orthodox bafoons, or were they actually good at their role when Sith hit the fan and an important ruling had to be made?

[@FastTquick]

I back this suggestion. I remember one of their worst calls was to sit around and do nothing while the Mandalorians waged a swath of destruction across the Republic. This decision no only caused untold civilian suffering, but also lead to the Jedi Civil War soon after.

[@b.johnathanwarriorinagarde7980]

He could also go over how the Dark Council functioned and how they related to the Emperor when he was around, how they dealt with the Imperial Guard and the Emperor's Hands and Wraths. Haven't seen anyone cover that in detail yet.

[@videocrowsnest5251]

@@FastTquick I can't even remember what their reasoning for it was besides "Not any of our business. Too bad for everyone else though lol" - When the Jedi code preached respecting, preserving, and holding life above all else. Considering that, it was only natural that someone in their numbers would not be contempt to just sit idly by (Revan), and thus say no to the Jedi High council deciding to sit on their behinds while the galaxy burned. No decent being would just ignore the suffering of untold billions if they had any sort of ability to do anything to help out. Tis not the Jedi away either, and I really can't see the will of the Force (silly as it might be for me to try and claim I would know what that level of entity would think) either being perfectly ok-dokey with this, especially because war is basically fertilizing the ground for dark siders to pop up.
While war is very bad for Jedi (or anyone attuned to the so-called "light side" of the Force (as there is only the Force, and the dark-side which is a perversion of said Force, so no light side)), but you'd think doing anything would be better than sitting around doing nothing.

[@blackc1479]

Ok, Just had an interesting idea re the idea that Yoda paired them intentionally (I could totally see it) from another comment.
So there's the whole arc/idea that Yoda knew the end was coming via visions etc. but still let it happen. And he's also gotten a bad rap for presiding over the sith endgame and not feeling it coming sooner and or being too rulebound and old-school in the running of the order.
But what if he had long since seen how it would play out (i.e. canon) vs what would happen if he did everything "right" and the bane sith were defeated and wiped out.
(In legends, at least) you would have had a bureaucrat nightmare of a govt, still very divided and pacifist,with no large scale combat experience or standing military force, carrying on as usual.
Enter the vong. The galaxy would have been done in maybe a year. No battle hardened (if slightly backsliding) new republic. No imperial remnant. Who knows about the other factions, hapans, etc.
Maybe he saw it all, and took the path that was both jedi in its intent, and sith in its execution.
(To spin it out even further, that would maybe make him the first to go back to the true je'daii path. Willing to balance the light and dark internally.)
That would make the act we see in empire something like a third layer of deception.
Damn. What's the world come to when you can't trust yoda?

[@wildfire9280]

People give him flak for that when they pretend the force just gives him the ability to automatically know things and then disregard that even if he had suspected earlier Sidious was already using the dark side to cloud the Jedi’s clairvoyance capabilities.

[@sammyvillano9502]

Obiwan’s brand of underhand tactics are very very underwhelming when you put him in the same room as his contemporaries.

[@Bbobsillypants]

Especially compared to anakin warcrimes skywalker

[@amanzeihedioha]

Tactical Breakdowns? Please, please don't ever stop these! And please do a few Legends shoutouts?🥺

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Oh, yes, same.
Hmm, a video of Legends shout-outs in non-Star Wars media might be a bit odd, but believe me, it makes a hardcore fan like me so happy; cases in point, the She-ra and the Princesses of Power character Mara being named after, you might have guessed, Mara Jade Skywalker and Xizor's name being mispronounced and then correctly pronounced in the movie Free Enterprise. Hope you're reading this, Geetsly's.

[@amanzeihedioha]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Well Said!!🥲

[@OhOh996]

I’m going to ask everyone to go and watch the Obi Wan Vs Grievous deleted scene. The last part is so messed up and hilarious 😂

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Already did (via Bombastic). Gods, that was brutal as hell. Thank goodness they cut it.

[@Reoh0z]

So uncivilised.

[@justingary5322]

@@michaelandreipalon359 EXACTLY WTFLIP HUH WHAT 🤔😂 💯

[@nicolaschaigneau2001]

I still have a problem withe the false surrender tactics he and Anakin used several times. I mean, yeah it saved lives but what we tend to forget is the CIS army was lead by a buch of tactical droids taht used algorithms to predict the GAR's strategies. For a few well-executed victories, how many times did those droids take real civilian or military surrenders for false ones ?

[@ramblinnernd5905]

I think it was mostly during losing battles. While faking a surrender is a crime it was only towards military targets. Losing a battle could mean more casualties for your side and thus contributing to the possibility of total defeat. But yeah I think people overreact to this topic way too often.

[@abaronofchivalry5176]

He's the perfect example of "Keep your sword sheathed, but know how to use it"

[@marshalllatta2073]

Obi wan Kenobi is going to have the high grounds in his whole series like he in clone wars and revenge of the of the sith

[@dnte0947]

“Capable of ending WARS without firing a single Shot” but those CLAP BACKS he fired hurts more than getting shot lmao

[@MrBracey100]

Kenobi was absolutely ruthless when he felt it was needed. Notice in his final fight with Anakin, that he is the aggressor he ends the negotiation by staying "I will do what I must" and ignites his lightsaber first.
While he does offer Anakin a chance to surrender when he has The high ground, after he severs Anakin's limbs he makes no move to save him, to bring him in for trial and justice. This is a reflection of Mace skirting the same appeal to Justice when he had the emperor at his mercy.
Keep in mind that his opponent is like a younger brother to him, they have fought and bled together and Anakin has saved his life on numerous occasions. Kenobi is unfortunately the perfect Jedi he has no attachments and so there is no hesitation, no other thought than to complete the mission.

[@BRad-cq9px]

Dude your channel is so underrated. I listen to your videos all day at work and don’t ever run out of new content

[@Zeknif1]

It is worth noting that in addition to forbidding his men from killing civilians or destroying their homes… but seeing a perfectly viable alternative to destruction, Kenobi opted to instead lock up the poor, unarmed droid that was tasked with cleaning one of the holding cells.

[@norbertsreignofterror9418]

I think it's intetesting that Obi-wans morality stops rather abrubtly when it comes to droids.

[@ArgentWolf95]

Wartime changes people, I believe Obi-Wan was a man who wanted peace over bloodshed, but he was a leader, and a Commander on the battlefield. Like many Jedi, they had to learn millitary strategy and warfare, to command both fleets as an Admiral, and a General on the field of battle. So they had to develop strategy and tactics, and for these warrior monks, that was a big thing.
For Kenobi, the greater good required some grey areas to save lives.
"Appear strong when you are weak, Appear weak when you are strong." - Sun Tzu.

[@Clarence_Oddbody]

Someone on another video asked “What happened to the Inquisitors by the time we get to ‘A New Hope’?” Obi Wan Kenobi happened…

[@walli6388]

Always nice to here those old bf2 sounds.

[@blakeneville8814]

I'd love one on anikan skywalker and his battle mindset and strategy

[@Emberson-9000]

Thank you, Eetsly. Very cool video.

[@bassmantjox1299]

Hey, I just got Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2005) and it’s pretty good.

[@robertlinke2666]

and i have no doubt padawan Tono went, knowing what she went into, serving as the vessel of the force, allowing her own death if it is the will of the force.
the jedi had the good in mind but were in all accounts still a cult

[@schnoz2372]

I mean as long as it’s a choice and she knows the possibilities then that’s not bad

[@camthegamingking490]

I looked it up and there is no tono, there is tano, ahsoka tano. She and another padawn infiltrated a geonocian Droid factory by going in alone while the others were distracting them above. Both ashoka and Barris survived.

[@BlueSoulGamer]

@@camthegamingking490 you are referring to the TV series, tono is more than likely from a comic. Not everything in star wars is shown on TV.

[@Slurptacular64]

@@BlueSoulGamer nah, look at the original comments bad punctuation and capitilization. Much more likely they misspelt the widely known tano than knew about a rando char from an obscure reference.

[@Slurptacular64]

Sure but like, in a world where there is CONFIRMED and demonstrable evidence of the force existing, I think it unfair to lump it in the same catagory of cult as you would see with cults of faith in our world.

[@brettmccollet]

So I know it's off topic but I just finished listening to several of the ancient sith stories, where you've mentioned many different sith rituals, could you go more in depth on those? Maybe talk about why they weren't utilized by Palpatine, they seemed so useful but we don't see them enough to really know about them

[@kyuss89]

He is what a Jedi should be. Excited for the show!!! Just hope KK didn't mess it up to bad

[@Astralwolf23]

"Everyone's favorite Jedi master" Geetsly, you are a bold one.

[@demi-femme4821]

Geetsly's not holding anything back

[@michaelandreipalon359]

They're still doing that a bit, especially on lore eras like the Legacy era and the Yuuzhan Vong War.

[@goldeagle6431]

The High Ground would stand no chance against the Senate.

[@Reoh0z]

Sidious beat Yoda because he had the high ground in the Senate.

[@lifotheparty6195]

Obi wan Kenobi set the basic personality standard for how I handled situations when I was in the service and later working as a bouncer.
Use absolute minimum force, try to understand people and speak with them, come to terms or solid agreements.
If an agreement is not forthcoming than execute swift and brutal force in order to bring any physical altercation to an end quickly so that other people are unlikely to get hurt .

[@topdog5252]

Damn I really have to read the RotS novelisation. Also you should do another video on Quinlan Vos

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

yes, you really do. it's brilliant, 66/10 recommend.

[@sam.horgan35horgan33]

He brought balance to the force.
He was the perfect Jedi at the time.

[@goncalovilhena2139]

Funny how he spent so many time of his life looking out for the chosen one either anakin or luke, but in the end he was the chosen, not even G. Lucas realizes this

[@Roka_Rolls]

I want to see a tactical breakdown of count dooku since he is regarded as a brilliant tactician and a master of makashi. I want to see how that played into his overall strategy throughout the Clone Wars.

[@lerneanlion]

After seeing General Grievous engaged the Jedi like Obi-wan in combats time and time again, it made me wonder why the Republic never considered invading Grievous' homeworld like at all, especially after the Battle of Coruscant. I know that the Jedi will objected, deeming this as nothing but revenge. But those like Tarkin and Yularen may be completely fine with launching an invasion of Kalee to make a payback for what Grievous did to Coruscant.

[@isoldam]

Because Palpatine did not want that to happen. Grievous was working for Dooku, who was working for Palpatine.

[@30AndHatingIt]

Kenobi was cold AF on the battlefield? No kidding, check out his limb count video…

[@413Jesse]

I'd love to see a tactical breakdown of dooku

[@arlo9754]

why was the opening zoomed in

[@johnnytherobotontheledge]

he's not holding anything back

[@justingary5322]

Obi Wan Kenobi was A SAVAGE MF 😂👊.

[@Azzie420]

He’d literally let you fuck him up just to underestimate him then bam you’re pinned to a wall while staring at the sexiest beard In the galaxy

[@RedSox3149]

"Our beloved space Jesus" love it 🤣🤣🤣

[@bloodred9857]

I like how I’m watching a video about obi-wan and up comes an ad with Ewan McGregor in it and it’s such a funny coincidence

[@brother_bear_one7340]

Kenobi: the true protagonist of the Clone Wars era.

[@Thundenix780]

"Our beloved space Jesus"
Well starting off great aren't we?

[@minicle426]

* R4 gets decapitated *
"Oh dear...anyway."

[@47jakobi]

Classic case of "The best leaders are those who do so not because they wish to, but because it has to be done"

[@Savaker32]

First time watching this channel. That BF1 intro gave me war flashbacks.

[@kingbubbafatt9945]

Do Mace Windu!

[@titojdavis8374]

I wish you'd cite where each story is from. A lot I recognized, but some I didn't and I'd like to be able to seek out the material that had some of it

[@geetslys]

The Battle of Zaadja is from Star Wars Republic issue 67, the Battle of Jabiim is from Republic issues 55-58, the Battle of Muunilinst is from the '03 Clone Wars microseries, and all other examples are from SWTCW.
Hope that helps.

[@justingary5322]

@@geetslys Obi Wan Kenobi was A SAVAGE MF 😂.

[@chandarchaudhary2988]

At 0:33 when you called Obi Wan Kenobi “Our Beloved Space Jesus” I lost my shit!!! 😂😂😂 I LMFAO!!! 😂😂😂 Easily one the best Star Wars jokes AND Christianity references I ever heard.

[@descendit8622]

Jesus lord that old school battlefront sound effect and visual hit right in the nostalgia feels. Holy fucking shit

[@tweso1499]

I’m thrilled that you got to cover the Negotiator during the Clone Wars!
I’m curious to see that, as “Kenobi and Skywalker” is a pair that’s practically inseparable (at least prior to TCW), would you be covering “the Hero of No Fear” next?
Especially when the Republic compares Skywalker to Grievous of the CIS as one of its greatest generals

[@dianesinger9729]

Got to love Kenobi he is something else

[@andrewgeorgecomeau4066]

Id like an assessment of Master Mace Windus tactics.

[@yungswim3772]

I subscribed after the instant blast of nostalgia from the intro

[@Uf7f7d6cufihud6dgco]

i enjoyed listening to this. i didn't learn anyth9ng new but i really adore listening to Star wars things in general and anything about Obi-wan in particular. the next logical step seems to be Anakin to me.

[@baronvonbrunn8596]

I still think that the false surrender was a stupid idea. It looks smart and cunning at first, but this would make Separatists hesitate to accept surrender next time, which would cause many future battles and propably the whole war to be much longer and bloodier.

[@whatsup2318]

Who knows how many people Obi-wan got killed who were legitimately trying to surrender but were unbelieved because of his stunt.

[@TsuriaDragon]

Can’t help but wonder in all of kenobi fights with Maul Maul respect Kenobi as an warrior despite his hatred for him.

[@nagollnosegrobbb2165]

I could see Maul feeling that way.

[@RigbyWilde]

"So, how was my funeral?"

[@atlasnorris8670]

Can you please do a clone d&d alignment chart?

[@jcoates32]

Subbed to the channel. Excellent description of Obi wan

[@reaperxxzify]

"Do not mistake my kindness for weakness." He never said it but that is obi to a T. And all this we wouldnt know or care if not for the prequels. Thank you george, regardless for all the flakk you got.

[@Agawin007]

Title had me crackin 😂

[@sicksadworld765]

0:44 *literally cuts Darth Maul in half, brutally kills Grievous by shooting his organs and crippled his former apprentice and left him to burn*

[@ImTheReverse]

Yay another excellent video from EETSLY’

[@Scrubermensch]

Objection. My favorite Jedi master is Qui Gon

[@CelestialNighthawk-wb6os]

"Everyones favourite jedi master", well some people like anakin more... oh wait nevermind.

[@Chris-zo4vu]

"Nom de gwair" well done

[@jeluenhayo2410]

Kenobi is a man of simple math. 2 lives > 1 life.

[@nadiahapsari3359]

2:49 I guess Ahsoka got that from Kenobi

[@butcherpete2286]

We need a kit fisto video like this

[@bsg5467]

i think ahsoka was one of the most grounded characters in star wars, she had equal parts anakins tenacity and obi wans cunning . That blend of characteristics was something wholly unique in the student teacher relationships the jedi possesed up to this point. Ahsoka having her assigned master anakin who was rash and quick to act on his feet playing against his own master obi wans teaching of a more subdued tactical approach was a great dichotomy for ahsoka to see first hand and then for her to try to use both jedis teachings in tandum. Ahsoka and the collective masters had a great deal of internal conflict recollection and resolution that never felt forced it always progessed in what felt like a natural manner, the clashing teachers and an open mind trying to see why both sides could be useful is exactly why ahsoka went gray in my opinion since the start ahsoka saw the lawful good and chaotic evil of the force no wonder she hit the center.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Oh, I'm not worried about the outcome at Zaadja. The needs of the many truly outweigh the needs of the few, remember, and then there's the "railway conundrum", where most people would save the many tied up sods and not the one fat man.
Of course, there's the "Koris scenario" (named after the quarian admiral from the Mass Effect universes; fans who played that ME3 sidemission will probably know what I mean), which is a bit hard to stomach, but still necessary... to clarify, save one man and sacrifice his crew so to keep morale up and inadvertedly save more lives in the long run.

[@roger632]

"Besides... someone has to be the poster boy."

[@racobjeba]

This obviously isn’t an unpopular opinion by any means but considering that Obi-Wan is by FAR my favorite character in Star Wars this video just made me EXCEEDINGLY happy

[@coreymez241]

This was my favorite thing about TCW and the prequel trilogy. Obi and Anakin were stone cold military generals. Ordering deaths by the thousands. Also why I like the movie Solo. Real, adult stories of warriors and politics. As opposed to the clear cut good vs bad.

[@sebastianmartellisr.3587]

As a whole... Obi-Wan Kenobi was a flawed man, but the best damn Jedi Master that they've ever trained during his time.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

I would love to see General Kenobi the Negoatator vs Thrawn the Arch-Strategist. who wins? High Ground or Chiss Club?

[@PointnShootMovies]

This title is gold