Trying to Make a 1959 Santa Fe GP7 Run Again

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  • @magform
    @magform 2 роки тому +5

    The pre-Blue Box Athearn Pittman style motors were not the smoothest, nor was the gear drive. The rubber band drive units were slightly less expensive, and my more common, the rubber bands smooth out the pulses of the three pole motor. But all locomotives of that era lack the smooth low speed action we've become accustomed to,, emulating the O guage toy trains they were meant to replace. Homes we're getting smaller, and room was at a premium. Great job. The loco seems to run about as good as I remember back in the day.

  • @randallellison6421
    @randallellison6421 2 роки тому +13

    Cool restoration Harrison! Interesting story on these old Athearn geeps is that they were sometimes referred to as 'wide body' GP9s as the car body was much wider than the prototype measurements. It actually wouldn't be until Life-Like released its Proto 2000 model that model railroaders would get a much more accurate model of these locomotives. Athearn currently has a very nice GP9 model in it Genesis line with road name accurate details, LED lighting, and Tsunami2 sound. All that being said, these 1950s Athearn units don't pop up all that often and it's great to see one here!

    • @MattKonsol
      @MattKonsol 2 роки тому +2

      Athearn models do have pretty cool drives they’re built like army tanks especially the blue box to genesis era which I currently don’t own any genesis models at the moment.

    • @tommurphy4307
      @tommurphy4307 2 роки тому +2

      back in the days most model geep makers cheated on the hood widths

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +2

      I had no idea these were the best you could get for so long.

    • @wildfire19861987
      @wildfire19861987 2 роки тому +4

      There were correct width GP7/9 body kits you could get in the 80's. They were made by Front Range and were designed to fit on Athearn chassis (ones with the narrower motor of course) with some modification to the frame. I have 5 I bought from someone many years ago (and all were custom painted Santa Fe). I'm sure before that some modelers took AHM's GP-18 and did some kitbashing to make a 7 or 9 also.

  • @davidwatts9025
    @davidwatts9025 2 роки тому +11

    The original Lionel corporation sold a magnetizer to service stations to remagnetize HO motors.
    You might be able to restore the magnets strength by laying a strong magnet on the motor magnet over night.
    Good video. Thanks

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +2

      I'd like to buy a magnetizer, it could help these kinds of locomotives a lot.

  • @az80311
    @az80311 Місяць тому

    Just anothther excellent job of restoring the Locomotive. I enjoy so much watching your videos and listening to you talk about these trains. Thank you Harrison, you are a good man.

  • @washingtonrailfan889
    @washingtonrailfan889 2 роки тому +7

    I love to see when you make these videos, the repairing old Locos makes me smile

  • @robertbowman3406
    @robertbowman3406 Рік тому

    I have a Athearn A unit with the same drive shown here. I was given this unit about 50 years ago but I was not told that the teeth on one drive gear were all worn off. I took it apart the other day and found that to be the problem. Its too bad that I cannot find that drive gear so I just put it back the box and maybe one day I might find what I need. I really wish I had the room like you have. Keep up the good work.

  • @fuzzyworld3
    @fuzzyworld3 2 роки тому +1

    I bought a F7A of similar vintage -- the drive has the same motor, and the frame the same truck mount tabs. Alas, one of the tabs broke off, possibly in shipping, but I swapped in a much more modern drive chassis!

  • @casstelles
    @casstelles 2 роки тому +4

    I've seen the old style Athearn motors disintegrate around the magnet to powder. So, I'm not too surprised to see it be a little weak. You could try to remagnetize the core to make it stronger, but, in the end, it is what it is for the age. So far, it works, and I would roll with it until the issue needs to be truly addressed. Also, it's nice to see this drive being repaired if I would run across one. It's not the first time seeing this drive, but my experience dates to the rubber band era of Athearn before the flywheel drive.

  • @crabbinmoose8583
    @crabbinmoose8583 2 роки тому +2

    Harrison, you have outdone yourself once again man! History lives!
    I know the older 50's 60's Athearn motors are so temperamental and prone to overheating, but they are pretty stout if you have all the parts in working order.
    You're assessment of current draw was spot on too. Perfect mechanical restoration!
    .....Now try triple heading 3 of those suckers on an old bachmann power pack without tripping a breaker.!!LOL!
    Have fun!

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks. I don't dislike these but their designs seem to have greatly improved into the 70s

    • @crabbinmoose8583
      @crabbinmoose8583 2 роки тому +2

      @@SMTMainline in the 1970s Athearn made improved shell designs with finer details and better handrails. But, If you've ever had one apart on the bench, the best of all the improvements was definitely, to the "clip together" truck design with its worm gear and splined drive shaft transmission, sporting a "thinner" motor.
      With detailed plastic side frames and a simple riveted electrical contact design, it's easy to see why so many mrr repair techs still admire the thoughtfulness that was put into all the bluebox mechanism.
      No surprises that It still works just as good today as 50 years ago and has also been faithfully copied by both Lifelike and later Walthers motive power and is quite possibly the oldest surviving HO scale drivetrain on the maket which is still in continuous production!

  • @aidenfraser9369
    @aidenfraser9369 2 роки тому +1

    Hello Harrison I’m Aiden and you can probably tell from my UA-cam profile pick I’m from the uk but the trains here where I am are awesome and I love to ride them or go to my hometown train station and watch them arrive and depart I think you channel is awesome! and can not wait for future vids keep up the amazing work 😁😁😉😉

  • @johncloar1692
    @johncloar1692 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Harrison this is on of my favorite channels, thanks again,

  • @australianmodelrailway
    @australianmodelrailway 2 роки тому +1

    I like these videos of vintage loco resurrections, my new favorite channel 👍👍

  • @danshobbies13
    @danshobbies13 2 роки тому +1

    Watching these videos gave me the inspiration to dig out all my old locomotives, test them & service them.

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      That's great. Have most of them started?

  • @burgegerm7878
    @burgegerm7878 2 роки тому +2

    don't know if it was already posted, but it would be a good idea to replace/remagnetize the magnet if it is too weak. The weaker the magnetic field, the more current the motor will draw. Imagine if the magnet were to be completely removed, the motor would essentially become a short circuit. The weaker magnet also increases the "balancing speed" and reduces the torque of the motor, similar to how field shunting works in real trains. Though in this case, the magnet may be too weak and potentially will damage the windings.

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      I'm looking into getting a magnetizer.

  • @joallawestervelt6918
    @joallawestervelt6918 2 роки тому +1

    I am not surprised. The "Harrison Magic Touch" has once again paid off. Nice job Harrison. 💕😊💕

  • @kevinb9327
    @kevinb9327 Рік тому

    You never fail to amaze. Consider re-naming the channel to "She's a runner!"

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  Рік тому

      Thanks, also that would be a great name haha

  • @paulbervid1610
    @paulbervid1610 2 роки тому +1

    Great work Harrison.

  • @davebennett8434
    @davebennett8434 2 роки тому +2

    Can’t stop watching your channel! Love it!!

  • @csxrailfan632
    @csxrailfan632 2 роки тому +2

    SMT Mainline, I have been watching since almost the beginning I love you videos and you have inspired me to make my own train table, keep doing what you are doing,
    Sincerely,
    CSXRailfan

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      That's awesome, welcome to the hobby!

  • @Greatdome99
    @Greatdome99 2 роки тому +1

    Yours is a second-generation Athearn gear drive from around 1962. Note that it has herringbone gears and bushings--the original (1960) version had straight gears and no bushings, which didn't last very long. A third gen geardive had much the same components, but white plastic housings.
    You should test the loco without the shell first! Final assy only after all is working well.

  • @michaelmorgan7893
    @michaelmorgan7893 Рік тому

    I had one of those but it had a normal Athearn black motor in it, but every time I'd try to get it to go, it made the motor run very very hot. I got rid of that whole chassis, and replaced it with a regular 1970's chassis with early steel flywheels and cast trucks.

  • @OTRWA
    @OTRWA 2 роки тому +1

    Thats awesome...luv watching the restores...cheers for filming

  • @shanemcguire170
    @shanemcguire170 2 роки тому +1

    You actually made a very good point. I own many Athearn Locomotives. All of the ones that have the motor that you are showing here, mine have been replaced with Athern's newer drive units and flywheels. As for the gear units, clean them out and grease them with Labelle 101, and they should be good to go.

  • @newhavennscale
    @newhavennscale 2 роки тому +3

    Nice work, SMT! Yes definitely a GP7 or 9. I have a very good running Kato Santa Fe GP35.

  • @chrislangdon8182
    @chrislangdon8182 2 роки тому +5

    I've always wanted a Santa Fe GP9, they are really great engines, this one is pretty odd though. When will you do another unboxing video, I've been wanting to see one. Thanks for dropping this vid.

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +2

      Likely very soon. Many boxes ready to go!

  • @lawrenceechols6453
    @lawrenceechols6453 2 роки тому +1

    A testament to Athen workhorse locomotives they are awesome anyhow nice video SMT keep up the good shows man

  • @13thBear
    @13thBear 2 роки тому +1

    Never seen that style of drive so this was interesting to me. Glad you got it running.

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      They are far less common than their Blue box era

  • @andrewferguson5653
    @andrewferguson5653 2 роки тому +2

    Great restoration, SMT. I have a GT 4553 with that style of older Athearn metal frame, but the motor and drivetrain are a "blue box", and it's DCC.

    • @chrislangdon8182
      @chrislangdon8182 2 роки тому +2

      The GT engines are one of the best looking locos around!

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +3

      I think their blue box era was their best.

  • @harperlarry49
    @harperlarry49 2 роки тому +1

    Nicely done.

  • @thoquan4523
    @thoquan4523 2 роки тому +1

    I love your videos your my favorite youtuber

  • @betsymani2734
    @betsymani2734 2 роки тому +1

    I really like like the blue santa fe scheme

  • @avlisk
    @avlisk 2 роки тому +1

    I had an Athearn SD45 in this same Santa Fe livery, just a couple of years newer than this one that we purchased in their first release (1966, Blue Box maybe?). What I remember most was that the factory paint was thick and very poorly applied, making the flared radiators look bumpy and gross. But I loved that locomotive anyway.

    • @heckingaxle6618
      @heckingaxle6618 2 роки тому

      Blue Boxes didn't come out until mid to late 1950s

  • @fsj197811
    @fsj197811 Рік тому

    Yay another one saved! Thanks for sharing.

  • @garysprandel1817
    @garysprandel1817 2 роки тому +1

    IIRC the yellow box/rubber band drive went through to 64 as I seem to remember the Athearn GP30 either changed from band drive to the " modern " blue box drive mid run or was offered as both.
    Neat little bit of Athearn history as the GP30 has a little spotting feature that gives away the fact EMD provided blue prints to Athearn to have the 30 come out at the same time as the real one. look at the back of the hood and the headlight is vertical like the GP7 or 9 indicating the 30 switched to the modern 2nd generation horizontal rear light during that period. Other Athearn models that switched between initial blueprints to Athearn and production are the SW1500 ( Athearn's looks like the standard SW7 8 9 etc) and the DD40 with the standard cab nose though that had more to do with it's only buyer going with the full crew cab rather than what would have been the production model.

  • @Santaanacanyon
    @Santaanacanyon 2 роки тому +3

    For 1959, that was a pretty good quality locomotive. Never compare vintage locomotives with today’s low-voltage Motor, low friction gear, units. Also don’t feel bad if you cannot tell the difference between a GP7 and a GP9; most of us cannot either.

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't expect the current draw to be too low but when it's near an amp, it's near burnout territory.

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 2 роки тому +1

      GP7s: three louver sets below the cab. GP9s: one. Otherwise the same. Athearn marketed this as a GP9 but it really was a GP7

    • @donnlowe9129
      @donnlowe9129 Рік тому

      That locomotive would be a GP9 as it has the dynamic brake grids on the long hood. GP 7, no dynamic brake.

  • @joeraderblackrockcentralrr
    @joeraderblackrockcentralrr 2 роки тому +1

    nicely done

  • @CAJONJP
    @CAJONJP 2 роки тому +1

    Loving the old stuff.

  • @sayansaha155
    @sayansaha155 Рік тому

    12:47 : That's a really useful engine.

  • @nitrorrat8190
    @nitrorrat8190 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for a nether awesome video

  • @MattKonsol
    @MattKonsol 2 роки тому +3

    Nice restoration on this athearn gp9 the gp7 here was alittle bit different then this but not sure on that. I believe this might be a yellow box era of this type of model idk. I actually nevered own any athearn yellow box era locomotives except the b&o piggyback flatcar that my dad had when he was little.

    • @yourfellowpancake6335
      @yourfellowpancake6335 2 роки тому +3

      That’s really cool

    • @ErickC
      @ErickC 2 роки тому +2

      It's a GP7... look at the louvers.

    • @MattKonsol
      @MattKonsol 2 роки тому +1

      @@ErickC sorry

    • @ErickC
      @ErickC 2 роки тому +2

      @@MattKonsol : what's there to be sorry about? We're all learning all the time.

    • @MattKonsol
      @MattKonsol 2 роки тому +1

      @@ErickC yup I agree with you know no one is perfect though

  • @magnuswettermark8293
    @magnuswettermark8293 2 роки тому +1

    Athearn is always good. God job..

  • @SJ.Qhknmkk
    @SJ.Qhknmkk 2 роки тому +1

    That’s a cool locomotive! It’s an old one, but I’m exited to see if you can make it run! (I haven’t finished the video yet)

  • @michaelmorgan7893
    @michaelmorgan7893 Рік тому

    Spray stencilled lettering. A remnant from when Lionel was associated with Athearn many decades ago.

  • @haxorouse3265
    @haxorouse3265 Рік тому

    psssst, the way you tell apart GP-7s and GP-9s is the radiator pack, if it has this flared out radiator pack it's a GP-9, if it's totally flat the whole way along the body it's a GP-7... yes I spend too much time looking at this stuff, don't judge me XD

  • @NorthmassRails
    @NorthmassRails 2 роки тому +2

    That looks to be a gp9, I can tell because the dynamic brake vent is slightly risen. Great video! 👍

    • @SlapthePissouttayew
      @SlapthePissouttayew 2 роки тому +2

      GP7. The vents on the doors under the cab and on the battery access doors give it away. Both the 7 and 9 have/had the rise risen like that.

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому

      @@SlapthePissouttayew The debate continues

  • @darrenoftheNorth
    @darrenoftheNorth 2 роки тому +1

    Way to go good work! Can't wait for the next project. Hopefully a steam locomotive 🚂 😉

  • @sergioarroyoguerrero5434
    @sergioarroyoguerrero5434 5 місяців тому

    Good job in repair and clean the GP7 high nose locomotive.
    GP7 my favorites locomotives.
    Grand Continental in the movie Under Siege 2 Dark Territory.
    Where is you 🐱 ?.
    Scooby Doo is a good dog.
    Scooby Dum is a nice dog.
    Scrappy Doo my pup.

  • @gabrielperez8864
    @gabrielperez8864 2 роки тому +1

    Yes, GP7. Three sets of louvers under the cab.

  • @GaryDavis-ir6fh
    @GaryDavis-ir6fh 11 місяців тому

    oh im sure you will have it kickin up the dust in no time!

  • @Gfysimpletons
    @Gfysimpletons 2 роки тому +1

    Looks like a converted ATHEARN band drive loco I have…….
    My two ATHEARN hustlers also have the same motor……

  • @PhillipBrodginski
    @PhillipBrodginski 2 роки тому +1

    As soon as I saw "Athearn", I said "well no s**t it's gonna run".

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      If it was a 70s or 80s model no doubt, I find the 50s era can be slightly less reliable.

  • @heckingaxle6618
    @heckingaxle6618 2 роки тому +1

    you can get a new magnet for it or if you are carefull you can converter it to the newer motor and drive system by drilling the chassis for the motor mount pads, and using a dremel with a metal cutting bit. 3rd option is to get a new chassis, motor and trucks. the shell should be able to fit a GP7/9 chassis.

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      A neodymium magnet would improve it greatly but is also probably worth more than the loco.

  • @jeremyjohnson457
    @jeremyjohnson457 2 роки тому +1

    I believe that would be yellow box instead of blue box

  • @johnellick7362
    @johnellick7362 2 роки тому +1

    I'm a big fan of your channel. I've learned alot how to restore those HO scale locomotives.Quick question. Where did you learn your electronic repair skills ? Just curious. I also admire your soldering skill.

  • @haxsa4467
    @haxsa4467 2 роки тому +1

    Nice!

  • @bobbylee2853
    @bobbylee2853 2 роки тому +1

    The speed seems just right to scale.

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +2

      It is but should be able to go faster.

  • @zyklose8565
    @zyklose8565 2 роки тому +1

    Hey smt can you tell me where you got your carbon fiber brush at im trying to repair a train of mine and I can’t find it

  • @MMRails
    @MMRails 2 роки тому +1

    Anuva runnah gov’nah! Well done chap! Although you ran it backwards. Or maybe not. Who can tell with these high noses? Yeesh. Love the road name and paint scheme though! ;)

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      The Santa Fe's paint scheme rocks - Cheers gov’nah!

  • @caboosech
    @caboosech 2 роки тому +2

    Anything that was made in the early to late '50s the name of the company was called globe as in like your globe like in school then the company name was changed to answer but the original name is called globe I have a few of those engines are easy to work on and get them back up and running I had a couple that were dead now running

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      First time I've heard of this. Did they make other things at that point?

  • @antonbruce1241
    @antonbruce1241 2 роки тому +2

    Seriously, Harrison...is there any locomotive you CAN'T fix???? I mean really - this loco is almost as old as I am!!!

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      Usually the ones missing a lot of parts but just as long as everything is there, it's got a good chance.

  • @PWaco-yq7wr
    @PWaco-yq7wr 2 роки тому +1

    Athearn locomotive are so easy to fix that was a good fix for 5o's years old that is the best you get out of it. now you have a lot of boxes you to open some of them to see what's in there. did you get the other comment's I left you , That Dumass box I had my worker open up for you all Flatcars 5 of them I needed. I got one that derails a lot I can not find the problem. i check the wheels in gage OK still derails, the trucks are OK also. The guy at my club today 8-19-22 said that video was funny. I must be talking behind your back again of nice things;

  • @Kevin_40
    @Kevin_40 2 роки тому +2

    Maybe it runs slow on modern transformer because it was designed with brass rail track in mind and a more powerful transformer from the 1950s? i think the older transformers tended to be bigger and more powerful? A lot of the 50s transformers were huge monsters. Also the light on the loco is sucking some power.

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      My money is on the magnet. Most of the older HO controllers are very underpowered. Mine is super strong, kicking out 19volts and around 5 amps.

    • @Kevin_40
      @Kevin_40 2 роки тому +1

      @@SMTMainline What about those very large transformers from the 50s and 60s that weigh 10-20 pounds. a lot of 50s models were heavy diecast or brass and needed lots of power. and they were not as concerned about prototypical speed back then either. its actually normal for many 1950s models to run slowly now, so many years later. most of em been frozen up for a good 50 years some plastics and metals warp after 50 years

  • @trainfan998
    @trainfan998 2 роки тому +1

    So I have a Athearn model just like this one and it runs, but it's leaning to much on one side for some reason. Anyone know how to fix this?

  • @chuckwalters4759
    @chuckwalters4759 9 місяців тому

    There are plenty of cheap ultrasonic cleaners out there for your train parts.

  • @franklincarlson4939
    @franklincarlson4939 2 роки тому +1

    Nice to see smt

  • @C-O1309Production
    @C-O1309Production 2 роки тому

    That’s pretty nice

  • @rickygarrett6508
    @rickygarrett6508 2 роки тому +1

    I don't think I've ever clicked on a video so fast

  • @Petemonster62
    @Petemonster62 2 роки тому

    SMT - The large gear with the teeth forming a " V " is called a " herringbone gear ". The advantage of the herringbone gear is that it doesn't put any sideways pressure on the axle. This is because the arrangement of the teeth causes any sideways pressure on the axle to occur in both directions - thus cancelling the pressure. Maybe you should consider cleaning the wheel treads with the fiberglass pencil?

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for explaining that, the design seems kinda genius. I had a good look at the teeth and didn't see any dirt or oil. I think it was just dry.

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 2 роки тому +1

      No. Straight involute gears do not impart a sideways force. Helical gears do, but in opposite pairs, make for a smoother engagement. Tolerances on model locos is pretty sloppy--newer locos have finer teeth, which are smoother.

    • @Petemonster62
      @Petemonster62 2 роки тому

      @@Greatdome99 - You Sir are correct!

  • @RapidTransitFan
    @RapidTransitFan 2 роки тому +2

    Do a compilation where are you include every time you say: we’ve got a runner

  • @mercuryoak2
    @mercuryoak2 2 роки тому

    Nice restoration. Lack of oil and grease.. wow then you got Bachmann trains that puts too much. Interesting model I have one similar I think it was by lifelike many years ago. Not that I pay attention of whether it's a gp7 or a gp9 I'm not a rivet counter so it doesn't matter to me LOL

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +2

      It might have had oil which slowly drained out over the years.

    • @mercuryoak2
      @mercuryoak2 2 роки тому +1

      @@SMTMainline yeah true. Its just that it was so clean like it never existed. First time ive ever seen it do that.

  • @doggerbendrailway6002
    @doggerbendrailway6002 2 роки тому +1

    Do u still want a blue B class? I got a mate who’s selling a kit bash dcc sound for 80 Australian plus postage

  • @JBofBrisbane
    @JBofBrisbane 2 роки тому

    See if a neodymium magnet will go in that motor - she'll go like the clappers, then.

  • @agressive_cementbag
    @agressive_cementbag 2 роки тому

    Nice loco

  • @Train_Master_4014
    @Train_Master_4014 2 роки тому +1

    Nice I will use a Santa Fe passenger train in RO-scale central railroad on ROBLOX later

  • @GaryDavis-ir6fh
    @GaryDavis-ir6fh 11 місяців тому

    yeah! thats what im talkin about!

  • @chrisdaniell2990
    @chrisdaniell2990 2 роки тому +1

    How do you differentiate times when you use grease versus oil? Do you use grease for plastic against plastic or oil? Plastic against metal?

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      The more friction the thicker the lubricant. Metal parts usually require more grease, plastic parts usually just need a bit. A bit of oil for each.

  • @Toontrain
    @Toontrain 2 роки тому +1

    As the motor in this loco seemed a little weak perhaps in future you might think about investing in a magnet re-energizer machine perhaps?

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      I'm interested in getting one

  • @RDC2003
    @RDC2003 Рік тому

    im trying to buy one of these, as well as a gp38 off of facebook.

  • @dylanmatros5877
    @dylanmatros5877 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Harrison How are you lately? I would like to meet you one day

  • @scottaworth3102
    @scottaworth3102 2 роки тому +1

    When are you going to do a restoration on the T1?

  • @Guccimanny
    @Guccimanny 2 роки тому

    1959? ai carmaba! cant wait to watch this :)

  • @williammcgeehan3424
    @williammcgeehan3424 2 роки тому +3

    Athearn listed this for decades as s GP-9 when it's clearly a GP-7. The placement of the louvers give it away. Athearn also listed their SW-7 as an SW-1500 for decades. 😳

    • @randallellison6421
      @randallellison6421 2 роки тому +2

      Correct, Athearn also did this as a bit of a cost cutting measure by simply using the GP7 tooling, adding the dynamic brake blister and painting them in the colors of the roads that owned them rather than just create all new tooling for the GP9. Since model trains were still pretty much aimed at the toy market more than hard core model railroaders, Athearn got buy with it for several years up until people started demanding more prototype accurate models, which Athearn delivered in the blue box era and Life-Like ultimately bringing out a truly dimensionally accurate model in the 1990s as part of the Proto 2000 series.

    • @suppylarue220
      @suppylarue220 2 роки тому +2

      @@randallellison6421 when this model was originally marketed, it was labeled as a GP9, even though it was actually a GP7. The reason this came about is because Athearn used a diagram of a GP7 but photos of an SP GP9 to complete their (his) dies. The dies were in three parts. Body/walkways-sills; cab; and dynamic brake "blisters". The first production model was as an SP GP9 black widow. The picture on the box was that SP GP9. It was labeled as a GP 9 for about 20 years. To this day the original dies have not been retooled. Sometime during the late 1970s or early 80s boxes were labeled GP7. The reason it has a winterization "hatch" is because it too was copied from that diagram. The incorrect truck sideframe curvature was taken from the same diagram.

    • @williammcgeehan3424
      @williammcgeehan3424 2 роки тому +1

      @@suppylarue220 Uncle Irv, ( Irv Athearn ) chose some real oddballs to replicate as ho scale models. His EMD SD-9 was another SP prototype with the odd fuel tank. The SDP40, DD40 etc.

    • @suppylarue220
      @suppylarue220 2 роки тому +2

      @@williammcgeehan3424 he was always influenced by the ESPEE , EMD advertising, and Kalmbach,
      his brick " factory " on S. Western ave. had that old time feel to it. the jet motors were stored on trays carefully oriented to maintain their magnetism. that's when you could buy a 40' boxcar frame for 15c!

  • @Xtream__Attitude
    @Xtream__Attitude 2 роки тому +1

    Hey SMT with the fiberglass pencil have you ever get pieces of the fiberglass in your hand? Thats the most annoying thing with it lol

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      Haven't had that problem but it is a risk.

    • @Xtream__Attitude
      @Xtream__Attitude 2 роки тому

      @@SMTMainline sorry if I just jinxed you now lol

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому

      @@Xtream__Attitude Hopefully not haha

  • @ronaldrondeau7870
    @ronaldrondeau7870 2 роки тому +1

    Good Harisson thats a very old athearn engine

  • @philipvandyke5980
    @philipvandyke5980 2 роки тому +1

    Thought real old Athearn were rubber band drive

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому

      Apparently the production of the band drive and regular drives overlapped for a while.

  • @windycitysirens
    @windycitysirens 2 роки тому

    awesome!

  • @PWaco-yq7wr
    @PWaco-yq7wr 2 роки тому +1

    Iam going to run some trains on SUNDAY 8-21-22 try to find people to run on Sunday with me and do video's, We want you to join are club tell how good you are with DCC you would be good with DCC

  • @souris_62
    @souris_62 2 роки тому

    belle vidéo

  • @YourLocalRailfan
    @YourLocalRailfan 8 місяців тому +1

    I’ve got the dummy version…

  • @TexasandPacific
    @TexasandPacific 2 роки тому +1

    My ten wheeler can pull the circus train because my ten wheeler can pull short amount of cars

  • @PWaco-yq7wr
    @PWaco-yq7wr 2 роки тому +1

    Some one left me a comment said did you my girl open a Dumass BOX? I look for it I cannot find it. I thought you left that comment. I put up 5 videos today 8-22-22 , I got a lot of comments on the new video's , I had a good day,

  • @James-k3z7f
    @James-k3z7f 9 місяців тому

    ❤❤❤❤😊

  • @mannyfernandez2921
    @mannyfernandez2921 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Harrison do you fix n-scale? if so how do I get them to you? Thanks Manny Fernandez

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +2

      I do work on N scale but no longer do repairs that involve shipment.

    • @mannyfernandez2921
      @mannyfernandez2921 2 роки тому +1

      @@SMTMainline Even if I pay for shipping?

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +2

      @@mannyfernandez2921 Yeah. I was taking repairs for a while but I usually ended up running into problems which would take a lot of time to fix. Most of the problems were dealing with shipping companies.

    • @mannyfernandez2921
      @mannyfernandez2921 2 роки тому +1

      @@SMTMainline Do you know anyone that can help me?

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +2

      @@mannyfernandez2921 Check train stores in your area or on facebook

  • @johnblair8146
    @johnblair8146 Рік тому

    It is a GP9.

  • @yourfellowpancake6335
    @yourfellowpancake6335 2 роки тому

    Hello SMT

  • @mattsfax
    @mattsfax 2 роки тому

    I have a older model

  • @northwestrailfanofficial
    @northwestrailfanofficial 2 роки тому +2

    That is a GP9 not a GP7. One way you can tell is the radiator vents on top.

    • @yourfellowpancake6335
      @yourfellowpancake6335 2 роки тому +1

      That looks to me like a GP7, because of the cylindrical tanks after the fuel tank

    • @northwestrailfanofficial
      @northwestrailfanofficial 2 роки тому

      @@yourfellowpancake6335 GP9‘s had that too

    • @yourfellowpancake6335
      @yourfellowpancake6335 2 роки тому

      @@northwestrailfanofficial good to know, thanks!

    • @colbeausabre8842
      @colbeausabre8842 2 роки тому +1

      @@yourfellowpancake6335 Three sets of louvers on the battery box = DGP7 1 set or none = GP9

    • @colbeausabre8842
      @colbeausabre8842 2 роки тому +1

      @@yourfellowpancake6335 No, the GP7 and almost all GP9's had four 36 inch fan (late GP9's had two 48 inch fans, the same as GP18's. . Three sets of louvers on the battery box = DGP7 1 set or none = GP9.

  • @MangoTheOne
    @MangoTheOne Рік тому

    I was your 1,200th like!

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  Рік тому

      Thank you!

    • @MangoTheOne
      @MangoTheOne Рік тому

      @@SMTMainlinewow! I didn’t think you would actually reply to my comment 😅 love your videos! Keep doing a great job 😁

  • @PWaco-yq7wr
    @PWaco-yq7wr 2 роки тому +1

    I did 2 videos today 8-21 -22 no one was there but me today I am going to finish on Monday -22- I will 5 videos to be put up. I need more people to get in are club younger ones so they take over the older people in the club; It's getting out of hand are President is got his hands tide now he wants to get out it . that looks bad on other clubs; We have a bad reputation now Tom cat is not talken to me at all do with things going on in club, DCC is way for younger people to get in to'. get back to me , You have a lot boxes to open up now .

  • @randomrazr
    @randomrazr 2 роки тому

    ever thought about being a mechanic? ;)

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline  2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely. Took a corse on small engines and am currently trying to develop my skills working on boats and classic cars.