Can We Make This 1978 E7 Locomotive Run Again? - Seized & Burning Motor
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- I picked up this 1978 TYCO E7 locomotive off eBay over a year ago. The drive appeared at the time to be in poor condition with tons of grease and saw dust over the gears. Until now I didn't understand the full extent of the condition of this loco - The whole drive was completely seized which may have also damaged the windings on the motor, causing it to start burning. This is certainly one of the more challenging repairs I've seen.
🎵Smooooke on the motor, fire in the sky. 🎵 I admire that you didn’t give up. If those wheels could talk.
That's a lovely looking loco, many hard h o miles over the years, well done for saving it 👏
So glad to see it running. I don't think I have ever seen one in such bad shape in all the times I have been watching. Great job Harrison. 💕😊💕
You certainly have the "knack", patience, and optimism when working on there old engines. Very enjoyable watching you.
Not giving up is also a skill.
Seeing thet even you have setbacks gives me hope.
Thanks, there were a few attempts I didn't show too. I initially attempted to rewind the motor however there were a few problems with this since I didn't have the right gauge of wire so in order to pull the same torque I put 350 turns which made the coils too large to fit inside the casing...
@@SMTMainline Rewiring a motor is on another level, i would love a video about it too, too bad you did not recorded it, even with the wire being too thick.
you certainly are the "Engine Whisperer" : )
That was a great repair. It is a beautiful engine glad to see it running again
Just a thought, use rubbing alcohol and a stiff toothbrush to clean the goop. Dries fast and doesn't risk a short.
Those springs are a tell...the temper was cooked out of them, the first sign of really serious overheating.
That beautiful McGinnis paint looks great running again... good show.
I love the fact you got this one running. It's a shame the old motor was neglected however it's good to see it running once again good work.
"Out for a Rip!" Nice lol That's a nice E unit 👌 🚂🇨🇦
Nice looking engine, so glad is a runner again.
Next week on My Strange Addiction:
Harrison of Quebec and his E7 Tycos.
I don't know why I like these things so much.
I love what you did with that mess. Enjoyed watching you bring it back from the dead. Great job
OMG !! I almost fell on the floor !! When I saw the New Haven engine, I thought right away, that it was a Lionel EP5. Oh, BTW, I do, own a 1957 New Haven 'O' gauge EP5. I've owned since 1957, when I was 14 yrs. old. Sorry for going off topic. But, you did surprise me !
A real challenge well met, Harrison. Each of your repair and restore videos provides a "how to" lesson for further reference if encountering something similar in the future. Many thanks.
that motor is strikingly reminscent of the aurora pancake motors used in the h/o slot cars.used to rewind them for more speed.brushes were the same though notched for the pick up on the bottom.as this came from tyco i betcha thats what they used.tyco also had h/o slot cars,gheez i just gave my age away.saw that motor and wham out came those days.
Great save Harrison
Nice vid!! The New Haven Railroad never had EMD E7 units. Instead EMD FL-9 locomotives were the main power source for passenger service from late 1950's, through the 1960's.
Yes, IDK why makers do stupid stuff like this using the wrong paint scheme on a loco. Charles is right about the FL-9.
@@calrob300 probably just for prototypical purposes and creating locomotive that aren’t real. I really like when they do that
@@DanTDMJace Ah, different strokes. Thanks for weighing in, Dan!
Well, they could have had them. They had Alco PA's and FM CPA-24-5's, so why not E units? I'm not a big fan of the McGuiness paint scheme, but I'll admit it looks good here. BTW, NYNH&H was `a devoted Alco customer `(`with a few FM's` and a group of Lima 1200 hp switchers working Maybrook yard) - not buying its first EMD until 1956.
@@calrob300Not so stupid, the McGuiness livery is striking and attracts the customer. And there are` the folks who don't mind playing "`what if" on their layouts
Out of all of my years of being where I'm at, I have never seen a Tyco E7.
Ted - Tyco only offered the E7 for a couple of years. They also had one in a Union Pacific scheme & a Burlington Northern scheme, as Randall Ellison pointed out.
Nice Job Harrison.
The New Haven is the best Haven 😁 Seriously tho I love the New Haven
I have mine running smooth as a top.. we have about 30 of these .. I guess they’re getting old but these were very nice at the time except the wrong trucks which they put the Alco trucks on every 6 wheeler. I do have Proto and Brass versions PFM of these also. Nice to see the younger generation discover these ild girls.
Nice locomotive E7 in HO scale.
Good job in repair the locomotive.
Run in the layout.
Another successful repair!
Looks like you got another good one SMT, nice work! By the way, there's a BN version of this locomotive and what's so unusual about it is the paint scheme. It has this almost Neon green and white scheme, I saw it on jlwii2000's April Fool's video.
It actually isn't too far off from a few ex-CB&Q E-7s and E-8s the BN inherited. I've seen photos where the cab and nose are in cascade green, the rest of the body is stainless steel. Ever since I saw prototype pics that Tyco was not too far off, I've been trying to find a couple. Go figure, it's just like the blue stripe Amtrak coach (Which also had a one-off prototype!) when I am not interested in buying them, they're everywhere. Soon as I want 'em, no one is selling.
Wow pretty cool these videos help me out a lot
I would imagine with a magnet recharge, that loco would run quite well. Imagine all of the stress that the old grease put on them!
Late But yes another Vintage Train SMT repairs happy to See it Running Again
WELL DONE!
I agree
What a great paint scheme
WOW that was a bad motor though but im glad it worked again!
Good job, Harrison.
beautiful loco. But Kudos to you repaired it.
Nice! I just got a tyco U36-b running again! It was kinda a Frankenstein's monster of different tyco parts but it works great.
Good looking unit. definitely worth the spare parts you had to use. E units are my favorite of the old streamlined diesels.
Hi .
Try Out Orange Cleaner to Clean the Motor parts !
I use it to Clean my Locomotivs.
Take some warm Water and a little Bit of the Orange Cleaner in the Water. Put the drive bogie in it and Clean all with an soft Brush . After Cleaning put it in Clean Water and let it dry.
Greetings from Germany
Sascha
Idea: find a VR class B I think they are called? It's from triang and an aussie loco which might be cool to have and maybe be interesting to repair for a video?
I've been on the market for one of those for a while now. They seem to be kinda rare and expensive.
Huh, really? I've got one myself and I recently found one for around $50 on ebay (might be gone now) and never thought they were that rare.
Or alternately, you can get the TYCO F9A in Victorian Railways livery, numbered S301. The companion caboose is the red wide vision caboose with a VR logo on each side.
SO I have this Rhode Island tyco diesel and the motor for it is odd. I've never seen it before, and I don't know how to fix it because it keeps spinning the rear set of wheels causing it to derail.
He saves anther Tyco! That motor looked as bad as the GG-1 I repaired.
Hey Harrison, Very impressive video of that Old Tyco New Haven E-7. It's a amazing how the Old Tyco Engines holds up after all those years and Last for a Very long time Too! I Really don't think that a Bachmann Locomotives will last that Long! Especially when it's made in China. Tyco Engines are made in the USA and it's more better material than China made! As you can see! Thank You for Sharing that fascinating video! 👍🚂🚂🚆🚉🎥📷🏍️💨🇺🇸
Oh that’s great
Fantasy scheme. NH never had E units. FL9 and EP electrics
It's certainly not the only thing that isn't realistic about these models but I still like the style.
Those vertical motors, man... They run awful, they're hard to replace, and they are WEAK. I give up on them usually, but glad to see you got at least ONE to work.
I once had a NH E9 I miss it :
they make their return..
Nice work. I might actually be learning a little about electric .toots here!
You let the magic smoke out!
You can only do that once.
Good looking engine.
I think all of the New Haven E7s you have were all broken when you got them.
Can you by chance make a small diagram of your layout? I’m planning on making a model train layout myself, and I may need ideas
great video
Thanks!
That lokomotiv looks beutiful.
Nice engine
You could probably use automotive brake cleaner on the metal parts.
It's hot, though, it will melt some plastics.
I should try brake cleaner or possibly starting fluid on scrap plastic to see if it does anything bad.
@@SMTMainline I used it to clean an ABS plastic auto part and it started to melt it.
I would agree. Brake cleaner is not a good idea on those small plastic engines. Carburetor cleaner is a bad idea also. I use Awesome orange from the dollar store or alcohol.
@@dbtech7914 I would only use it on those metal parts when you have big wads of old grease and junk to dissolve. It's good for that and evaporates quickly.
Ultrasonic cleaner
Works well
@smtmainline try taking the disassembled metal commutator without the coils the gears the wires anything else that would get by acid and dipping the disassembled metal commutator in a cup of Coca-Cola because the acid in Coca-Cola will clear all the gunk away
your channel popped up on my feed recently and i know this video is a little old but i have two small pieces of advice in terms of tools to help, one is a proper soldering iron, i work on game consoles and use a hakko fx-888d and i think it would be perfect for this, second is a small sonic cleaner that you can put some cleaner/degreaser in and use it for small parts like those wheels etc to clean all the grease and dirt off, other wise awesome videos!
I rebuilt one of these myself a few months ago. Only, I replaced the front "Fang" truck with the AAR type B truck Tyco made, in effect, making it a bit like the FL-9 wheel arrangement. Also painted the trucks black and painted the grilles on the side. And as usual for me, replaced the dummy truck with a second powered Powertorque motor and added some more weight to the loco. She pulls a train of six prewar American Flyer HO die cast Osgood Bradley coaches without issue.
I always thought Tyco went too far with some of the "artistic license" they took when marketing their products in the 1970s. It did save them money to use the trucks and power unit from the C-630, but the average modeler was not impressed. Model railroaders, however, were not their market. They sold toys! Having worked for a toy store in the mid 1970s, we sold thousands of Tyco starter sets, and additionally had many after sale purchases of their accessories and cars. Neither Bachmann or Life-Like were as big in North America back then. These were also the years of the Lionel HO line that Bachmann later incorporated parts of. Their big? competitor then was AHM, at least in our stores. From a repair standpoint, Tyco was fairly easy due the commonality of parts. But our store had a 90 day guarantee, and many "aftermarket" Tyco locomotives were acquired by customers "for free." Tyco did not want their "failed equipment" back, and most issues were due to over-oiling, pet hair, and running on the carpet. Usually, the store would just dump them, but I did repair a few, and with proper cleaning they ran like new. We would put them in the used cabinet at half the price of a new loco. Essentially, people got a new loco, for half price, sans box. Should you have the opportunity, pick up a Model Power E-7 from that era, which I found to be a much better loco.
Great content, thanks! Any chance you might be doing a beginner's guide for purchasing a first time train set? My grandson wants a set for Christmas and I don't have a clue, thxs!
I think I eventually will. My suggestion for the time being would probably be to buy the cheapest Bachmann train set on the market. ($100 or less) They aren't the best but they are the cheapest. If you have the budget you might want to consider a Walthers Proto train set. I would avoid the larger Bachmann train sets, they are much more expensive than their cheap ones but not higher quality.
If you buy a cheap Bachmann set I would probably also get 1 or 2 Walthers train line locomotives to go with it. They are good locomotives for the money. Used Athearn and Kato engines are good too if you're buying from a train store.
@@SMTMainline thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate your advice! Now I can start the daunting task of sourcing out the items that you suggested lol cheers from the West coast of Canada!
@@heavymetal19610 You can find the stuff I mentioned on Amazon but honestly old school hobby shops usually have people who can give you good advice and it's good to support them.
@@SMTMainline I was thinking that might be a fantastic idea, however the closet hobby shop is a 6 hour round trip lol.... Amazon might be the way to go!!
Looks like you got a really nice model of a New Haven locomotive. She ran pretty fast towards the end of the break in test.
Hi could we see some pictures of your layout as I need some inspiration for mine and yours looks great
Cool. Do you have any of them trains I not sure what it is called where the men do the pumping the bar like the one you did on the real rail road. that can go around the track just curios
I think SMT has an HO handcar that was made by Bachmann.
Need some traction tires.
John
Hi
Ello
Too bad we can't swap an old bluebox drive under the hood. That would be the best!
I don't think it's impossible since everything in this model is removable.
@@SMTMainline the kids and have talked about attempting to make it happen. My son and I both have a few beloved tyco locomotives that just can't handle running with our athearn bluebox!
Oh btw there worth about 6 to 10 dollars depending on on the shell .. most guys just Re power these with a tsunami motor.
For these types i use a ultrasone bath for extreme gross locs.
I don’t think that’s an e7 it was prob one of the NH’s weird specialized units
Yeah unless it's got a smoke unit smoking is generally not a good thing. Having gotten into a bunch of will it start and junkyard resurrection videos of late at least you don't have to deal with rat nests and racoon poop.
You have toooooooo many NH E7
Though NH never had E units, you should have at least painted the trucks black.
can you do a livestrem over the weekend?
Can you get a nother go train
I might.
This is an exaple of why you never run a train on bare carpet.
Great video. However, I am wondering why the table is black and not a bright color? Would a bright color make it easier to find small pieces?
@smtmainline Have you ever seen what Coca-Cola can do to a penny with years of old gum on it you'd be surprised at home at how the penny will be after sitting in the cup of Coca-Cola just try to give you a future but make sure you deep rinse the metal on the commutator off in Hot water after sitting in the cup of Coca-Cola so it doesn't get sticky
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Can you do a video of getting a ho scale train 🚂
I got 2 motors in bad shape
They are not well built and the drives usually end up burning them out.
@@SMTMainline when you do a video I watch it all the time I 3 locomotives on the way
Hey I got a brand new Tyco E7 model that I am going to use the body on to a Model Power / Roco chassis, I could trade you the complete chassis with trucks and motor. if you are interested as I will never use the motor, as I I want is the body itself.
The railroad is New York central steam train 🚂
Yummy! fried armature
Why did the ols owner buy an engine if he doesnt know how to actually care for an engine bc engines actually need care
its an fl9 not an e7
U shouldve got an new engine from the beginning
This me Peter I would like you to look at my video of that bike tell what you think of it.
Hi SMT can I have a shout out in your next video?
I'm just asking if I give 20 dollars would you get me some ho tracks and or rolling stock but like I said I'm just asking
Ma chi ti ha insegnato a lavorare???topo Gigio????...
Just a thought, use rubbing alcohol and a stiff toothbrush to clean the goop. Dries fast and doesn't risk a short.
Those springs are a tell...the temper was cooked out of them, the first sign of really serious overheating.
That beautiful McGinnis paint looks great running again... good show.
Hi