Moebius' Comics and How He Inspired Western Films - Comic Tropes (Episode 63)

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  • @brianoconnell6459
    @brianoconnell6459 4 роки тому +278

    He was a sweet man. I met him at a signing at Forbidden Planet in NYC, brought a postcard because that was all I could afford, and he did a full sketch on the back.

    • @facespaz
      @facespaz 4 роки тому +11

      That's awesome

    • @alisa_hanes
      @alisa_hanes 4 роки тому +5

      Jealous 🦦

    • @harshvardhanshinde7657
      @harshvardhanshinde7657 4 роки тому +3

      wish I could met him

    • @ELPlop
      @ELPlop 3 роки тому +4

      What a down to earth artist !

    • @jensknudsen4222
      @jensknudsen4222 2 роки тому +3

      Omg! Would you like to trade that postcard? I don't have money, but you can have my right arm.

  • @720zaka
    @720zaka 6 років тому +431

    Moebius is also a major inspiration to Otomo, the artist behind Akira

    • @s3lfFish
      @s3lfFish 6 років тому +27

      not sure about that
      Moebius went on to Japan
      and came back with tons of manga he got fascinated
      he promoted manga in france
      and then there are influences on both sides
      even before that with cubism and japonism
      but most of all, Miyazaki and Moebius seem to share a lot in common
      more than Otomo

    • @720zaka
      @720zaka 6 років тому +36

      Yea, well it's been quite documented, and OTmo has been outspoken about it. See:
      www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-04-09/akira-katsuhiro-otomo-remembers-french-artist-moebius
      Or:
      biblioklept.org/2015/03/05/flowers-a-short-moebius-inspired-comic-by-katsuhiro-otomo/
      And if you haven't read it yet, I highly recommend Domu (the manga that precedes Akira), which is quite clear in its homage to Moebius, but also the beginning of Otomo developping his very own style and universe.
      As for Moebius and Manga he was surprisingly old school, conservative and very critical of the manga industry, which he did not consider for a long time as true artistry. Of course, I could relay some interviews, but do you understand French ?
      Anyway, it's easier to be sure about things when they are rooted in, you know, facts and examples. Cheers !

    • @FuchsiaShocked
      @FuchsiaShocked 6 років тому +10

      I was thinking of Tetsuo when I looked at the arcturan.

    • @lunarmodule6419
      @lunarmodule6419 6 років тому +1

      Zaka Toto Ha make sense!

    • @cha5
      @cha5 5 років тому +1

      s3lfFish d

  • @tomforsythe7024
    @tomforsythe7024 4 роки тому +207

    Moebius' tales take place in a fantastic world where politicians have brains.

    • @GRedit1000
      @GRedit1000 4 роки тому +5

      Thank you… made my day!

    • @matonmongo
      @matonmongo 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe, but it's our own fault... we elect 'em (aka, "Every country gets the gubmint it deserves").

    • @tomforsythe7024
      @tomforsythe7024 4 роки тому

      @@matonmongo No matter what system you use, politicians run everything.

    • @matonmongo
      @matonmongo 4 роки тому +2

      @@tomforsythe7024 'Politicians': aka, the folks who are actually willing to work to achieve their goals, instead of making excuses, blaming others, and simply complaining about it.

    • @tomforsythe7024
      @tomforsythe7024 4 роки тому +9

      @@matonmongo You win for most unrealistic premise in Sci Fi history, beating out the Matrix.

  • @chrismuskett6867
    @chrismuskett6867 4 роки тому +79

    I once had the pleasure of meeting him at a con in London. He did a con sketch for a friend, and it was stunning watching him work. He drew hands so incredibly easily-just flicks of the pencil and the hand was done, fingers in proportion and in a complicated gesture.
    He also really liked Guinness

    • @brianjones8721
      @brianjones8721 3 роки тому +2

      He was an incredibly fast artist from what I hear, and prolific. I wish I could have seen him work in person. I went to a con panel with Geoff Darrow and he spoke at length of how in awe of Moebius he was, especially how quickly he worked and with such detail.

    • @-Zakhiel-
      @-Zakhiel- 3 роки тому +1

      @@brianjones8721 I wish Darrow and Moebius worked more together. I think they only collaborate on one project wish is impossible to find nowadays because it was a series of rare large prints ("La Cité de Feu").

  • @highsierra
    @highsierra 7 років тому +375

    You didn't mention anything about how Moebius' art influenced the movie , "The Fifth Element".

    • @ComicTropes
      @ComicTropes  7 років тому +129

      It was impossible to mention everything he's done. I just wanted to flavor the review with a few facts and a few opinions. If someone becomes interested, they'll get to discover more themselves.

    • @medicwheat69
      @medicwheat69 6 років тому +12

      ComicTropes plus the creative team form goth element openly stated Moebius as an influence. So. It’s not as unknown.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 6 років тому +11

      Mobley House Video Well.... That is not entirely true... most of the clothes was very much designed by Moebius in his Concepts for the film (as well as the Concepts made by the creator of Valérian te Laureline ) those concepts along with old Moebius design inspired or was used as reference when Gaulthier created the clothes. So it’s more that Gaulthier was inspired (or heavily copied) those design for the movie.
      Reason we hear about Gaulthier instead of the other guys is obvious. It’s better marketing to push a weird bit hip and world renown fashion designer instead of some weird (and perceived geeky) “unknown” comic (oh comic.. the thing only made for kids) creators.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 6 років тому +6

      It was also influenced by concept bt valierian artist.
      www.pipelinecomics.com/valerian-and-laureline-v15-the-circles-of-power/
      Which was originally hired as concept designer for 5th element.
      If he was inspired by Moebius or Moebius by him is hard to say. Still in the timeline a lot of science do design was done in Valérian before Moebius enter the more sci di field. (Actually more after the coloboration on Alien. Remember it was o banning who wrote the script for the long tomorrow.

    • @sylvain7888
      @sylvain7888 6 років тому +17

      More than influenced, he was heavily involved in the design and pre-production of the movie.

  • @tsbirthdeath
    @tsbirthdeath 6 років тому +22

    Fun fact: the demons on the album cover of SLAYER "Hell Awaits" were completely stolen from Moebious artwork from an issue of Heavy Metal by the artist Albert Cuellar. He also ripped of Frank Frazetta and Bernie Wrightson on the cover artwork he did for the SLAYER album "Live Undead."

  • @SonicUnderground316
    @SonicUnderground316 2 роки тому +15

    Dollie's crazy outfit at 16:48 could absolutely be the inspiration behind Queen Amidala fashion. Both have a Japanese flair with literally out-of-this-world hairdo and accessories.

  • @LordZontar
    @LordZontar 4 роки тому +56

    On Moebius' style: when doing SF comics, Moebius used a fine-nib pen to get the same line weights throughout the composition, both for the essential base drawing and hatching. Although he did rely heavily on colour in a lot of his work, his use of hatching, crosshatching and stipple depended upon the situation. For panels depicting panoramic urban or technological scenes, for example, he'd simply use the basic line as he was already putting in tremendous detail. If his backgrounds were less crowded or in closeups, he'd use hatching and the other techniques to add depth, such as with the panel when Club retrieves the box from the locker. Other times, he'd add in a few hatch strokes or dots just to spice things up a bit in what otherwise would be fairly blank panels with stark linework, or in panels of medium depth, to make the art more visually interesting. As he further refined his style over the years and experimented, his linework became sharper and he leaned more and more on colour and tonal shading to create visual depth and his shading strokes became even more minimalist, as is evident in his later SF works such as The World Of Adena and The Incal, and works he executed when he started using the graphic tablet.
    Now, when doing his Blueberry Western comics (as Jean Gir), he drew with the brush to get starker contrasts, heavier lineweights to emphasize shading direction and foreground objects or figures, economically rendered thick and thin hatch strokes, and to lay down heavy blacks for value. This was also a standard style with a lot of the Western and adventure comics that were being published in France, Belgium, Italy and Spain that was common to those genres (e.g. Hugo Pratt's Corto Maltese; although Pratt, I think, mixed it up with both the brush and the pen for his panels).

    • @whssy
      @whssy 4 роки тому +4

      His hatching was very reminiscent of Dorés engravings and is absolutely sublime. I knew a collector when I lived in France who had some of his original drawings and they were absolutely spectacular.

    • @system-error
      @system-error 4 роки тому

      Yeah the Gir/Moebius distinction is fascinating. There's a cool non-Blueberry western he did as Gir called Mississippi River too, brush inked and much more traditional looking. It was actually published in Metal Hurlant (because Blueberry was on hiatus due to a royalties dispute with its publisher). But it was signed Gir since it was Gir style. The pen really transformed Gir into Moebius, that's where he got magical to me. I like Gir, but I LOVE Moebius. He was actually torn between the two identities, his traditional and avante-garde sensibilities separated out like a split personality. But Blueberry was actually his cash cow. In his own words, commercially Blueberry (ie Gir) was the sponsor of Moebius, the former selling 100k and the latter selling 10k.

  • @rippspeck
    @rippspeck 5 років тому +127

    Knowing how serious the French take their foods, at least one of them got really sad when they saw that baguette.

    • @ProductionARF
      @ProductionARF 4 роки тому +12

      Nah it was the most French food in the video...and it look like the real deal idk if it tasted as good as ours thought

    • @mystymysty3667
      @mystymysty3667 4 роки тому +9

      The bread is no problem, but most will eat it with creamy cheese like camembert, rustique, blue, etc... and a glass of red wine! 🍷🔪 It's like eating pasta with nothing, but freshly baked bread can be good on it's own.

    • @frankknudsen842
      @frankknudsen842 4 роки тому +2

      This host knows his business for the most part,but his annoyance is overwhelming.

    • @mecha-sheep7674
      @mecha-sheep7674 4 роки тому +3

      Yup. And from here it went all the way to the deepest levels of hell, except the fries. Seriously, having to eat that could make him hate France and us French. If one day I have to visit my family in the US, I'm really afraid of what "french" food I may find there.

    • @kukipett
      @kukipett 4 роки тому +5

      @@ProductionARF No certainly not a baguette but some sort of arcturian scum that looks like baguette but has the texture os some spongy fongus, the most horrible baguette i have ever seen!!

  • @TulilaSalome
    @TulilaSalome 4 роки тому +57

    1. Man speaks about one of the most important names in comics and the various ways he influenced pop culture. Perennial favourites like Alien, Star Wars and Blade Runner are discussed.
    2. The audience: BUT TEH FRENSH TOOOAAASSST
    :D

    • @davidvincent380
      @davidvincent380 4 роки тому +2

      That baguette looked very industrial tho

    • @mslightbulb
      @mslightbulb 4 роки тому +1

      david vincent yes, there are industrial baguettes in France and Western Europe to, we eat them everyday and we do not stop calling them a baguette because of that.

    • @thierryregaud7333
      @thierryregaud7333 4 роки тому

      Waaahhaaahhaaa Salvador Dali would have been proud !

  • @jacobkeary6740
    @jacobkeary6740 6 років тому +97

    The french toast didn't look good tbh.
    Seemed like normal toast with syrup 🤔

    • @Kijinn
      @Kijinn 6 років тому +28

      Indeed...looked and sounded like normal toast.
      I'm not sure if he's even aware that it's supposed to be drowned in milk and egg before frying?!

    • @s3lfFish
      @s3lfFish 6 років тому +15

      yeah and definitely not french
      we don't eat fake bread
      and that baguette definitely looked industrialised..

    • @fyodorkaramazov2136
      @fyodorkaramazov2136 6 років тому +14

      To be honest all the food looked like shit and definitely not french

    • @s3lfFish
      @s3lfFish 6 років тому +12

      Fyodor Karamazov
      It's because all the food was shit and defintely not french :(

    • @Phontoz
      @Phontoz 6 років тому +2

      if you woulda said turned in sugar and cinnamon also it would have been what we in sweden call "fattiga riddare" or rougly; Poor (finanicially) knights. Often done on stale regular bread or Wienerbröd/danish pastry/Kopenhagener Gebäck A real quick and easy kids favourite

  • @Temporalmixproductions
    @Temporalmixproductions 6 років тому +139

    That wasn't french toast.

    • @deadowl7709
      @deadowl7709 4 роки тому +29

      That was exactly what I thought. That was some burnt bread with some dark oil on top. Maybe the person that made it knew of the French term “pain perdu," meaning “lost bread." That half education still troubles me. To make french toast, you first dip slices of bread in a mixture of beaten eggs, milk, cinnamon and vanilla. Then you fry the egg-coated bread in a pan until browned. The person who made this version of "french toast" must have started a house fire and somewhere in between the raging flames, decided to toss bread into the inferno. Meanwhile, a large oil tanker crashed ashore and provided the syrup?
      Catastrophe? You bet!!
      French toast? The fuck is wrong with you?!?

    •  4 роки тому +11

      @@deadowl7709 Cinnamon ? Vanilla ? Still an americanized version. I can count on the fingers of a seal the recipes of french sweet cuisine that have cinnamon and vanilla (well, we use vanilla-sugar in some recipes to kil the egg flavour like in the "île flottante" and the only time I've used or seen used cinnamon is on Rice with Milk recipe "riz au lait"). It's sugar, egg and butter (real butter) and nothing else. Still, funny answer ! :)

    • @caligo7918
      @caligo7918 4 роки тому +1

      @ There is a version of that in germany without sugar. It's called "Arme Ritter" (poor knights) and it's basically old, dry bread soaked in milk and egg, fried in a pan with salted butter. And if you were really poor, you left the eggs out.

    • @richardcramer1604
      @richardcramer1604 4 роки тому +4

      @ , DEAD OWL's version is the same as how I've always made french toast, the cinnamon and vanilla are optional, we don't add the sugar with the egg/milk but it is served sometimes with a powdered sugar topping and always with plenty of syrup (usually maple syrup) available and yes I am an American.

    • @steve1978ger
      @steve1978ger 4 роки тому +7

      none of those foods are French by anything but name

  • @davidvincent380
    @davidvincent380 4 роки тому +18

    "The Incal" is one the first things to read from Moebius

    • @49558201
      @49558201 3 роки тому +2

      and the long tomorrow ......... enjoy........

    • @coffeeuwu7127
      @coffeeuwu7127 3 роки тому +2

      Same! I i read the Incal first, then the long tomorrow second. I absolutely loved both, then i eventually read everything else that moebius made. His work was def. an inspiration in my own artworks and he will forever be remembered.

    • @Tsotha
      @Tsotha 2 роки тому +1

      @@coffeeuwu7127 Moebius' artwork in those 2 are basically how I imagine everything to look when I read anything remotely cyberpunky

  • @turinhorse
    @turinhorse 4 роки тому +13

    i am no artist.. but Moebius has captured my imagination since childhood. I read Heavy Metal mag for many years and always gravitated to Moebius. been collecting his prints and books for years. just very evocative.

  • @Astromerc
    @Astromerc 6 років тому +64

    I guess these are the "Arcturians" that were referred to by the Marines, in the mess hall scene, in James Cameron's "Aliens". Corp Hicks laughs at the other Marine for supposedly banging a "male", and since they are shapeshifters, it becomes clear why he would say that, "it didn't matter because it was an "Arcturian"..,Anybody think I'm right? I'm right....

    • @lafortya
      @lafortya 6 років тому +14

      That was Spunkmeyr picking on the guy, not Hicks. But yeah, I thought the same thing. "So THAT'S the arcturiens they were talking about."

    • @futurepig
      @futurepig 6 років тому +21

      That was a nice Easter Egg

  • @OleHeide
    @OleHeide 7 років тому +38

    You should maybe have mentioned, that Jean Giraud / Moebius has two very different Styles. he also signes his Work differently: He allways signed lt. Blueberry with "Gir" and his SciFi/Fantasy Work with "Moebius". His Work as Moebius is much more minimalistic than his work as Gir

    • @remylounissart9688
      @remylounissart9688 6 років тому

      His genious still living through our eyes on his creativity

    • @elonmeuss1857
      @elonmeuss1857 5 років тому

      Actually he nearly have 3, when he worked for editorial comics, kind of humoristic cartoons, he used his Gir name and drew a lot more simplistic, something between Sempé and Peanuts. Definitely a genius

    • @whssy
      @whssy 4 роки тому

      He sometimes signed as "M.", "Moeb", "Bius" and even under his own name.

    • @publiusventidiusbassus1232
      @publiusventidiusbassus1232 3 роки тому

      He also spelt the title of every Arzach comic differently. For example, he'd spell it Arzak, Arsach, Arsac, etc

  • @camembertdalembert6323
    @camembertdalembert6323 5 років тому +16

    when I was a teenager during the 80's/90's, "L'incal" was a big thing amongst french teenagers.

  • @ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293
    @ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293 4 роки тому +12

    That "French Toast" you ate made me short-circuit from shock and confusion.

    • @fellowcitizen
      @fellowcitizen 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes -- invisible egg?? Maybe French Canadian toast...

  • @BigBennKlingon
    @BigBennKlingon 5 років тому +6

    Highly detailed backgrounds is the most salient Moebius trope to me. His backgrounds were often just as detailed as the foreground. There's a "see something new every time" aspect to his work.

  • @henrymach
    @henrymach 6 років тому +101

    Moebius didn't like to draw hair. I read that in an interview back when he drew a Silver Surfer comic for Marvel. You can notice that very few of his characters are seen without a hat. And many are bald

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 роки тому +13

      He could really do some hats, though.

    • @animalpensant8191
      @animalpensant8191 4 роки тому +6

      Not so true, in Blueberry, every character has hair, especialy Bluebery himself who was very a very hairy guy...

    • @davidvincent380
      @davidvincent380 4 роки тому +2

      He didn't like to draw hair... or he was more into hats ?

    • @radoman1234
      @radoman1234 4 роки тому

      Well, well, we here have expert :D Jan do not like to draw many things, but he draw it with ease and with superior quality.

    • @te9591
      @te9591 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe it's because was bald?

  • @glennsimmons5473
    @glennsimmons5473 4 роки тому +11

    The “D” in Giraud and the “T” in Hurlant are SILENT!

  • @lunarmodule6419
    @lunarmodule6419 6 років тому +9

    Quick update - I watched the He-Man Master of the univers documentary (netflix) yesterday and suprise suprise! ... Moebius did the early sketches of the main heros. Of course he redesigned them a bit and Mattel was not too happy LOL. This He-Man documentary is a must watch because we see the creative process behind the toy line, the TV show and the movie.

  • @walterendres4829
    @walterendres4829 7 років тому +114

    I don't know how many people already remarked on that, but "French Fries" are actually from Belgium!

    • @MrKylljoy
      @MrKylljoy 6 років тому +13

      Actually not really, some historians said that it is from belgium, others from paris as " Pommes-Frites ", it depends, some said that it existed a long long time ago so no, fries aren't Belgian, at least there are no proof.

    • @NelsonStJames
      @NelsonStJames 6 років тому +3

      My dear old uncle Herman says that French Fries should be German.

    • @s3lfFish
      @s3lfFish 6 років тому +2

      well French fries are definitely not french...
      we call them belgium here, but ulltimately
      Potatoes comes from south america
      Though fried shaped cutted potatoes
      seems to have an unclear origin in the western world, wether in belgium (XVII century) or france (1789) its more than probable that native americans came up with it earlier...
      But they're definitely not seen as french food nor belgium as it seems you guys eat most of them.

    • @zorbeclegras5708
      @zorbeclegras5708 4 роки тому +1

      This is a thorny question. First, in France, the French fries terms do not exist, any more than Belgian fries: They are called simply french fries. For the historical part, I will base my memory on a reading that I made about it a few years ago (and I do not remember the reference). Basically, it was said that the first mentions written on fries come from Belgium, but a menu mentioning potatoes fried in goose fat about a decade after this Belgian writing was found in the region of Toulouse. The written records do not mention how long ago this practice existed in either of the two countries, it is for the moment impossible to decide this oh so thorny question! ;) Can be in a third country? ...: p

    • @zorbeclegras5708
      @zorbeclegras5708 4 роки тому +3

      Google translator made me a bad joke: I wanted to say: "They are called simply fries"

  • @TheGodsrighthandman
    @TheGodsrighthandman 6 років тому +5

    Moebius is my favourite graphic artist of all time. Philippe Druillet comes a good second . . .

  • @FuchsiaShocked
    @FuchsiaShocked 6 років тому +40

    Love how Chris is grossed out by escargot and then cleanses his palate with A HOT DOG, which probably contains a load more disgusting things than the snail does.

    • @te9591
      @te9591 4 роки тому

      Lol.

    • @SonicUnderground316
      @SonicUnderground316 2 роки тому +4

      True but he's use to the taste of hot dog. He seems to be grossed out not by the actual taste but by the idea of essentially eating bugs so he went for something more comforting to him.

  • @calanives3270
    @calanives3270 7 років тому +27

    I wish that comics were respected as an art form in the U.S. Like it is in Europe and the rest of the world. They are an American invention that should be celebrated.

    • @calanives3270
      @calanives3270 7 років тому +6

      I asked my nephew if he read comics and he said ,"no I read real books."

    • @mau_victorino
      @mau_victorino 7 років тому +3

      Ken Ives oh, man! Kids are harsh! lol

    • @fyodorkaramazov2136
      @fyodorkaramazov2136 7 років тому +13

      They're not respected in France. Not at all by the politics or the so-called intellectuals, even the nerds are 65% mangas 30% US comics, 5% others stuffs.
      Most people don't even know who Moebius or Mezières or Jodorowsky are, they think the 5th element came out the mind of Besson by accident...
      French comics used to be something really huge in sci-fi, but they're out-fashioned since decades.
      Simply because the governments never helped them.
      Literature is respected over everything in France, our elits thinks culture is all about books and words. This is why they don't want music, they want french songs, they don't want cinema, they want french dialogues on screen... Our French cultural policy is made this way, and as a result we just had to support more and more stupid songs and stupid comedies. But they hate comics, especially fiction because there's beautiful poetic pictures in it. It tarnish the beauty of the sacred French language... And with science-fiction, imagine... The heroes aren't even Frenchmen, what a nightmare !

    • @LambdaJM
      @LambdaJM 7 років тому +10

      No sadly in Europe comics didn't get the attention they deserve; I always thought it is more respected in the US! hihi :-). But I think in both US and Europe comics are getting more attention

    • @LambdaJM
      @LambdaJM 7 років тому +5

      Yeah pretty much the same here in Germany. Comics are not respected. But lately the comic marked is growing at least in Germany. But Manga is the most read by young people and I am wondering why?

  • @CosmicLantern
    @CosmicLantern 7 років тому +9

    Hey Man, Moebius is my favourite artist of all time, and this was a great video. I have to say your channel is very underrated and super entertaining. Keep it up man

  • @thebigdentist251
    @thebigdentist251 7 років тому +130

    It's "MObius", not "Moybius" - other than that, good video!

    • @rexmundi3108
      @rexmundi3108 6 років тому +12

      It's driving me crazy.

    • @theDangerDudes
      @theDangerDudes 6 років тому +6

      I was just thinking of how to explain the sound to Americans. The vocal in 'Dirt' without the 'r' at the end is the best I could come up with yet. Try it like: Mir-bee-us :D

    • @gst9325
      @gst9325 6 років тому +11

      and also Yodorovsky not jodorovsky

    • @julianstuchlik8588
      @julianstuchlik8588 6 років тому +16

      it's pronounced "möbius"

    • @stevencanales2668
      @stevencanales2668 6 років тому

      Moebius is the correct pronunciation of Jean Henri Gaston Giraud /artist, designer, creator.

  • @LambdaJM
    @LambdaJM 7 років тому +15

    ja, the silver surfer story is great. Also Incal I re-read the series every few year like my personal celebration for Moebius.

  • @gideonsgate9133
    @gideonsgate9133 5 років тому +8

    I think the quiver-shivs are more like vibro-blades than lightsabers but I'm nit-picking

  • @ghuff31
    @ghuff31 4 роки тому +49

    "Influenced by" in Hollywood is a fancy term for copied or stolen...

    • @archive881
      @archive881 4 роки тому +3

      I've heard imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but don't be fooled. So many stick with the mentally that "just because you have an idea what make you think it belongs to you?"

    • @LarixusSnydes
      @LarixusSnydes 4 роки тому +7

      @@archive881 I have no big issues with that, except when they copyright the derivate ( to call it nicely... ) and threaten to sue anyone that makes something that resembles it.

    • @TheseusPro
      @TheseusPro 4 роки тому +2

      Avon Pendragon i hate to break it to you but all art is stolen. 99% of what you make has been done before, its the 1% you add on that makes it unique

  • @leighfoulkes7297
    @leighfoulkes7297 5 років тому +8

    I've always loved how he made his nature scenes beautiful, peaceful and good, with simple lines and less details. Then he would make technology scenes chaotic, cluttered and evil, with many lines and details.

  • @Leptospirosi
    @Leptospirosi 4 роки тому +15

    "The fifth element" seems coming out of this "Long Tomorrow"

    • @kolerick
      @kolerick 4 роки тому +1

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val%C3%A9rian_and_Laureline from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_M%C3%A9zi%C3%A8res is the inspiration for the 5th element design... but again, Valerian and Laurelin is the inspiration for tons of stuff (Star war being a massive recipient without Lucas acknowledging it)

  • @mollytherealdeal
    @mollytherealdeal 4 роки тому +9

    I met Moebius when he attended my college's museum when it was displaying his work. He was an interesting guy.

    • @te9591
      @te9591 4 роки тому +1

      That's got to be amazing.

  • @lorenaescalier3136
    @lorenaescalier3136 7 років тому +17

    there is this sci-fi comic book called "ficcionario" by Horacio Altuna and Carlos Trillo that is also influenced by moebius but it is way more trashy, horacio altuna by the way is one amazing artist that is very popular in spain and france

    • @mehernoshtarapore8902
      @mehernoshtarapore8902 6 років тому

      Carlos trilo used to work with Eduardo risso in Argentina Lorena escallier

    • @teddyrocker
      @teddyrocker 6 років тому +2

      @@mehernoshtarapore8902 Carlos Trillo used to work with everyone in Argentina. He was one of the most prolific authors ever, along Oesterheld, Robin Wood and Ray Collins.

  • @juanramirez6251
    @juanramirez6251 4 роки тому +11

    The thumbnail drawing looks like a piece from the comic novel “Druuna.”

    • @davidvincent380
      @davidvincent380 4 роки тому +2

      Serpieri is from the same era and was certainly influenced by Moebius

  • @HazelCoffeeNut
    @HazelCoffeeNut 4 роки тому +8

    His art style reminds me of Winsor McCay.

  • @jeremiahcunningham4798
    @jeremiahcunningham4798 4 роки тому +11

    When he said French Fries, I was like 'You Motherf-' then I realized he's being sardonic. Terrific video.

    • @matonmongo
      @matonmongo 4 роки тому +2

      Aka, "Freedom Fries"!

    • @ParadoxapocalypSatan
      @ParadoxapocalypSatan 4 роки тому +2

      Invented in the Netherlands, perfected in Belgium

    • @matonmongo
      @matonmongo 4 роки тому +1

      @@ParadoxapocalypSatan Yep, actually that's true... and then later 'popularized' in the U.S. ("Over A Trillion Sold")!

  • @smallman3381
    @smallman3381 7 років тому +30

    I got unreasonably upset about the French fries

    • @ComicTropes
      @ComicTropes  7 років тому +7

      Loki Lyesmith Oh no! What's bad about French fries? Was it the brand I selected?

    • @smallman3381
      @smallman3381 7 років тому +6

      skunkape you know what you did lol

    • @keithr.4645
      @keithr.4645 6 років тому

      Lol

    • @technopoptart
      @technopoptart 6 років тому +1

      even more than the "french" toast? that shit is /clearly/ canadian toast

    • @trexpaddock
      @trexpaddock 6 років тому +2

      Perhaps if was lamb fries, made in France, that would be OK. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamb_fries)

  • @loaneslone7168
    @loaneslone7168 4 роки тому +2

    As a French and huge fan of Moebius/Jean Giraud, I validate this video. I will add Moebius also worked on several animation movies among those the great "The Time Masters" directed by René Laloux (1982) of course the movie Heavy Metal from Ivan Reitman was widely inspired by his work (among other as Philippe Druillet, Richard Corben...). Have a look I found it in English :
    ua-cam.com/video/zbdJkheFVyk/v-deo.html

  • @shannonolivas9524
    @shannonolivas9524 4 роки тому +10

    To quote James Cameron's Aliens "It don't matter when it's Arcturian".

    • @tomforsythe7024
      @tomforsythe7024 4 роки тому

      Arcturian Lives Matter!

    • @shannonolivas9524
      @shannonolivas9524 4 роки тому

      @@tomforsythe7024 not referring to shooting the Arcturian, at least... not with a gun (Lenny face). Rewatch Aliens when you've got a chance or are so inclined to hear how Cameron worked a reference to this story possibly/probably into the film.

  • @MrShaundra
    @MrShaundra 6 років тому +1

    Interestingly, Moebius’ mechanicals look very hand drawn. No rulers or straight edges at all and yet they look great. By the way if you want to eat escargot go to a REAL French restaurant. It is delicious. NEVER FROM A FRICKIN’ CAN!

  • @demgutts
    @demgutts 7 років тому +18

    Also looks like Moebius inspired Hirohiko Araki.

    • @RyumaXtheXKing
      @RyumaXtheXKing 5 років тому +11

      Moebius inspired every Japanese mangaka that was around in the 70s and 80s. Seriously.

    • @kakyointhemilfhunter4273
      @kakyointhemilfhunter4273 4 роки тому +2

      The literal vampire

    • @johnpaulbruh7909
      @johnpaulbruh7909 4 роки тому

      @@kakyointhemilfhunter4273 he cannot die and also he MUSTN'T

  • @MrRenardbleu
    @MrRenardbleu 6 років тому +29

    it was orson welles, not marlon brando

  • @lostinexplanation612
    @lostinexplanation612 2 роки тому +3

    this guy is really likeable(UA-camr)

  • @nickromano3087
    @nickromano3087 5 років тому +2

    *Obligatory haugh haugh baguette, cheese, and wine comment*
    -The Spy, Probably-

  • @Girthon1
    @Girthon1 6 років тому +5

    Love Moebius. Love Comic Tropes. Keep 'em coming Chris.

  • @sdsneves
    @sdsneves 4 роки тому +2

    Do some CT about other European creators like Milo Manara, Hugo Prat or Sergio topi

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus 4 роки тому +5

    Moebius, one of the my favorites. His rainbow palette is a classic, it's all over US comics and movies.

  • @carloshuante8508
    @carloshuante8508 4 роки тому +2

    Yup one of my greatest influences as well.. one story which jives with this vid is while I was working on Prometheus and meeting with Ridley the first time.. it was just the two of us meeting to discuss the engineers and ancestors of the Alien creature.. Ridley dropped “The long Tomorrow “ in front of me.. I had a big stupid smile on my face for two reasons. first I hadn’t seen it in such a long time and it brought back all kinds of happy feelings and Ridley was presenting it to my for influence for a certain sequence that was later cut from the film.. but I proposed we use that scene where Dolly transforms right on top of the guy..of course it would have been inverted for the Hollloway love scene ...anyway ...good stuff here..

  • @jacobkeary6740
    @jacobkeary6740 6 років тому +49

    Anyone see Heavy Metal... like the movie?

    • @metalhead805666
      @metalhead805666 6 років тому +3

      love that film. The Loc-Nar lol

    • @chongsfury4358
      @chongsfury4358 6 років тому +2

      It's my Loc-Nar

    • @Zeropointill
      @Zeropointill 6 років тому +2

      or it's sequel, Heavy Metal 2000?

    • @lunarmodule6419
      @lunarmodule6419 6 років тому +6

      Both Heavy Metal were canadian movies. But since we speak french we are very very aware of Mœbius work. Un fact of all europeen french speaking art and culture (popular or fine arts) Thats the beauty of being canadian.

    • @ActivelyVacant
      @ActivelyVacant 6 років тому +3

      The Harry Canyon part of the movie looks like it took a lot of inspiration from this story as well.

  • @MihaiSorohan
    @MihaiSorohan 2 роки тому +2

    The "escar-go away" is enough reason to give this video a thumbs up.

  • @JoeyTCartoonP
    @JoeyTCartoonP 6 років тому +4

    5:15- Most importantly, he trusted his characters, props and settings form and structure to hold their own with limited linework. For me, that's amazing, since I always try to draw lines with varying width. So to see someone pull off simple lines for such dynamic work is pretty damn inspiring!

  • @mikeehrmantraut4695
    @mikeehrmantraut4695 4 роки тому +2

    One of the best decisions i've ever taken as a comic book fan is to subscribe to your channel man, you take comicbooks as a form of art not just as entertainment and i thank you for that.

  • @dacm19801
    @dacm19801 7 років тому +26

    Awesome episode Chris! I wish you would do a Milo Manara or a Paolo Eleuteri Serpieri episode but since they make erotic comics I guess that wouldn't fly here in youtube...bummer cause they are amazing artists

    • @TulilaSalome
      @TulilaSalome 7 років тому +5

      Milo Manara did make at least one album that is not primarily erotic - actually I am disappointed he then decided to just concentrate on butts. Very talented.

  • @TheLobstersoup
    @TheLobstersoup 6 років тому +1

    Incredible how one guy can be this influential and only known to those interested in the subject matter. I mean - people love Star Wars, love Blade Runner, the 5th Element, etc. but they cheer for the directors, not the originators of these stories or visuals. Blade Runner is a P.K.Dick story. Some of his story material and Giraud's visions go together so well - I wish Moebius had illustrated some of Dick's short stories. There is one, for example, where an alien "blob" looking race has their spies transmutated into humans, while the human spies are mutated into blobs. After the war a blob and a human spy marry and miraculously have kids, which are partly human, partly blob. And though the kids are stable in their shape, the parents transform back to their natural shape every couple or hours and just share certain hours of the day in the same form. It's such a crazy story, so I won't spoil how it ends. But just reading this should make you realize how close P-K. Dick's stories come to matching Moebius' visuals. I wish there had been such a cooperation, but alas it is too late for either of them to make it happen.

  • @SeresTheZocker
    @SeresTheZocker 7 років тому +10

    No frog legs?
    You're missing out man, they are super tasty
    Good episode though, I love Moebius

    • @ComicTropes
      @ComicTropes  7 років тому +6

      SeresTheZocker I was too sc-sc-sc-scared!

    • @VorpalDerringer
      @VorpalDerringer 7 років тому +2

      I'd eat frog legs long before escargot.

    • @Kijinn
      @Kijinn 6 років тому

      Don't let that fear get to you. Frog legs have a very mild taste, mostly comparable to something like chicken. The texture is also just that of a tender meat. There's absolutely nothing to be worried about except that, at worst, it may not be your new favorite food.

  • @sdaniels160
    @sdaniels160 4 роки тому +1

    I love your vlog episodes. I love your examination of Mobius. I get annoyed at Americans approaching foreign food with the expectation that it will smell or taste bad - kind of snobbish.

  • @lorenaescalier3136
    @lorenaescalier3136 7 років тому +23

    I have just noticed that dave gibbons also took some inspiration for the distopian reality of Watchmen, specially the cloth looks very similar to the moebius style.

    • @whssy
      @whssy 4 роки тому +1

      Good spot. There are a LOT of similarities.

  • @Shagamaw-100
    @Shagamaw-100 2 роки тому +1

    Besides Moebius, the lightsabers in Star Wars were also greatly influenced by the "blade of flame" in the Spacehounds of IPC in fact Star Wars was very much influenced by the Lensman series and their author E.E. Smith who is considered the father of space opera science fiction.

  • @milhouse777
    @milhouse777 7 років тому +95

    Lots of movies producers and studios loved Moebius artworks, so instead of rob him, why just not hire him?, that's really sad and f*cked up, there's a video in youtube called ''what star wars owes to french comics'' that goes more deep

    • @lokicatman
      @lokicatman 6 років тому +14

      Moebius is dead, so that might be a challenge.

    • @nuikoimikoru6491
      @nuikoimikoru6491 6 років тому +11

      Uhm, I think there's two types of things called like this, it's "Inspiration" and "references"

    • @jide7765
      @jide7765 6 років тому +11

      ELVISFX many directors hired him for movies like Alien, Tron, Abyss, etc.

    • @epsteindidntkillhimself69
      @epsteindidntkillhimself69 5 років тому +2

      There's nothing wrong with taking inspiration. If you want something more in the same style, then hire him for specific illustrations, as many people did.

  • @Stephen09479
    @Stephen09479 6 років тому +1

    Just gone and bought a copy of Heavy Metal from 1980 which was at the time The Airtight Garage was first printed (I think haha). Didn't know anything about Moebius so thanks for this video!

  • @BulkBrogan.
    @BulkBrogan. 4 роки тому +17

    I feel assaulted be all the "MWUY-BEY-YUS"
    Isn't it "Moe-bee-us"

    • @RetroRockGamer
      @RetroRockGamer 4 роки тому

      I was wondering that too. I always thought it was MOH-bee- us. Is it really pronounced MOY-bee -us?

    • @kamuelalee
      @kamuelalee 4 роки тому +1

      Mow-Be-Us!

    • @MikaelLevoniemi
      @MikaelLevoniemi 4 роки тому

      @@UCKY5 Indeed i'ts Möbius. That vovel is rarely used in english at all. I can find only one old english word coördinated, but even that is not used anymore with the vovel. Example of the vovel in wikimedia: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Close-mid_front_rounded_vowel.ogg

    • @christophermoebs5514
      @christophermoebs5514 4 роки тому

      My last name is Moebs (German-French border area origin) and it's pronounced like MUHRBZ. So it's pronounced MUHRB-EE-US

    • @davidvincent380
      @davidvincent380 4 роки тому

      Three 147 is right
      fr.forvo.com/word/m%C5%93bius/

  • @christopherpardell4418
    @christopherpardell4418 4 роки тому +1

    How single most influential effect was on Fifth Element- the visual style of which is essentially identical to his original Heavy Metal comic “Blade Runner”. From which Ridley Scott stole the name, but nearly none of the aesthetic. And you don’t mention it. And don’t SHOW it.

  • @afonsolucas2219
    @afonsolucas2219 7 років тому +6

    I don't think that's how you pronounce Moebius. I think it's Moe (like Simpsons Moe)- bi (like the bi in bisexual)- us (like... Us.) Otherwise, great video!

    • @ComicTropes
      @ComicTropes  7 років тому +2

      You are correct.

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 6 років тому

      Myer-be-us
      Afonso, where bi as in bisexual from? It's more like "bee".

  • @AndresFigari
    @AndresFigari 6 років тому +1

    Moebius was probably influenced by metropolis... (the black and white silent movie)..
    .

  • @rowanbadhwar877
    @rowanbadhwar877 5 років тому +4

    I enjoyed this! Gotta love Moebius. His art is phenomenal. Feels like a portal into another reality.

  • @Watdiggity
    @Watdiggity 4 роки тому +1

    You are amazing, I love your rundown. And insight.

  • @anneadler8944
    @anneadler8944 6 років тому +4

    Great video! I love Moebius.
    I recomend the French SciFi animated film "Les Maîtres du temps" (The Masters of time) for which Moebius did the design and co-wrote the script. Has a lot of the tropes you presented. Very trippy at parts and it scared the hell outa me as a child.

    • @whssy
      @whssy 4 роки тому

      I really didn't like it.

  • @AntoineDennison
    @AntoineDennison 4 роки тому +1

    Your pronunciation is off. Giraud is more closely pronounced: 'Ghee -row', the 'd is silent'.
    ua-cam.com/video/dv8Ud_F5tZ4/v-deo.html

  • @Lordoftheflyfilms
    @Lordoftheflyfilms 7 років тому +3

    Watched your Love and Rockets video and was reminded I'm an alcoholic lol. Would be cool if you did something on Tim Vigils "Faust" and "Druuna" from Heavy Metal magazine. Might be pricy to track those 80s issues down, but both are amazing.

  • @friendsofthegerund7693
    @friendsofthegerund7693 4 роки тому +2

    Credit for pronouncin Moebius.

  • @jordanthomas4379
    @jordanthomas4379 6 років тому +3

    fun fact, "french toast", is not French, the ancient roman were eating it thousands of years ago, the more modern version of it was being made in England in the early 17th century, the only reason why we call in "French toast" is because it was the French who brought the recipe to America.

  • @Kitsunekun2
    @Kitsunekun2 4 роки тому +2

    French fries are from Belgium :)

  • @mau_victorino
    @mau_victorino 7 років тому +4

    The episode I was hoping for!
    Moebius is just some brilliant stuff! Apart from that, you gave a look of genuine discomfort while preparing for a bite o escargot lol 😂
    I don't blame ya, I never tried it either

    • @cha5
      @cha5 4 роки тому

      Maurício Victorino I love escargot myself, but I’ll admit it’s not for everyone.
      Kind of like pizza with anchovies isn’t.

  • @edwardperez315
    @edwardperez315 6 років тому +1

    Finicky eater? Dude ... corn dog on a stick with yellow mustard?

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
    @lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 роки тому +3

    6:33 “Pete Club” -- no, no resemblance to “Sam Spade” whatsoever ...

  • @smileyp4535
    @smileyp4535 2 роки тому +1

    10:45 quiver-shivs might have helped influence lightsabers a bit but this probably came out after the dune series where they have those vibrating knives that at least in name sound like inspiration for quiver-shivs as while they glow (possibly from heating up or from being made of plasma blades) the name makes it sound like they vibrate or make a really fast movement in the blade that aids cutting

  • @johnthefool
    @johnthefool 5 років тому +2

    Comic Tropes : hello, i'm french, i love Jean Giraud 's work an i think he is "the" master of "Bande dessinée" ;). I didn't know that he has influenced Gibson and Carpenter, thank you for this video.

  • @theflyingninja1
    @theflyingninja1 5 років тому +1

    You make a decent, insightful video about an iconic French artist and all the arseholes in the comments can moan about is your pronunciation of Moebius and the food you're eating? Jesus, make your own videos and see if you can do better..

  • @nick1428
    @nick1428 5 років тому +3

    He is one of my most treasured inspirations and favorite artists, I miss him.

  • @trukeesey8715
    @trukeesey8715 4 роки тому +1

    White flour is deadly. Cumulatively deadly. Better switch to whole grains.
    12:59 Look at you! Delightin.

  • @JohnAquariusPodcast
    @JohnAquariusPodcast 6 років тому +4

    yes thank you for the moebius vid

  • @jamesclukey7488
    @jamesclukey7488 4 роки тому +2

    Nice job ! Watch the "Heavy Metal" movie, you'll see a version of the story you reviewed where the main character is a cabbie, not a detective. Which also happens to be the main character in "Fifth Element". Hmmm, ... I think I see a pattern here ...

  • @tlotpwist3417
    @tlotpwist3417 4 роки тому +2

    I shed a tear everytime is see an american eating "french food" that looks like it's made in china.
    Because we really want you to taste the real deal.
    Imagine if every US grandma made [Typical Grandma Dessert] and i went by eating a knock off of it, knowing little; you would be sad too :P

  • @animalpensant8191
    @animalpensant8191 4 роки тому +1

    Today, nobody eats snails anymore, in France... ;-)))))

  • @mattlerch531
    @mattlerch531 7 років тому +4

    Damn, a lot of info I didn't know, and knowing is half the battle.

  • @ShempDavidNiven
    @ShempDavidNiven 4 роки тому +1

    Love the man's work....but are we sure it's pronounced MOY-bius? As opposed to MOE-bius? Whatever; carry on, sir.

  • @melangesvolatils6506
    @melangesvolatils6506 4 роки тому +3

    Sorry, i'm french guy, and i don't even seen something like a "french toast" in my whole life like this thing 8:18 made with sirup...
    But for all the video, everything's fine nice

    • @melangesvolatils6506
      @melangesvolatils6506 4 роки тому

      10:28 14:30 17:57 sirious ? Why all that things has to be french ? it's hilarious, thanks :)
      We don't eat snails, it's just to sell some disgusting things like shrimps, but some person continue to buy it.

    • @dcrenshaw42
      @dcrenshaw42 4 роки тому

      Well being that you're french, is he pronouncing Moebius correctly? Because in English it would be MObius, not Moybius. Just curious.

    • @melangesvolatils6506
      @melangesvolatils6506 4 роки тому

      it's completly mo -é -biu -sss
      Moebius. 0:48
      it can not be "mouille biyuss"
      entre autre j'adore fluide glacial, phillip geluk, franquin, edika,

  • @joer1402
    @joer1402 5 років тому +1

    Great video. Any idea were I can get that boxed set that was shown at 0:56?

  • @Quiro26
    @Quiro26 7 років тому +3

    Great video! Next ( i hope) Valiant Comics

  • @BastienHell
    @BastienHell 6 років тому +2

    The baguette looks disgusting, the bread is way too dense and the crust not crusty enough.
    Your french toast isn't anything close to french toast, it's a regular toast with syrup.
    Macdonald fries, no comment, of course they're disgusting.
    Your mustard is actually sweet american mustard, french only by the name.
    All kinds of wrong here.

    • @johnthefool
      @johnthefool 5 років тому

      Oui, c'est vrai, mais ça part d'un bon sentiment mon pote. ;)

    • @Captain_MonsterFart
      @Captain_MonsterFart 5 років тому +1

      Duh, that's the joke.

  • @Eliphasleviathan93
    @Eliphasleviathan93 6 років тому +6

    Why in gods name did you duct tape your posters on your wall?

  • @waddlehi
    @waddlehi 5 років тому +1

    You mentioned adventures of tintin but I don't think you ever made any videos on that comic sadly. It is one of the only comics I read as a kid and I would love to see you disect it.

  • @doodletime9041
    @doodletime9041 6 років тому +17

    French fries aren't actually from France. They were invented in Belgium

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 6 років тому

      IKR...

    • @sacend1
      @sacend1 6 років тому +1

      May be they are may be they aren't both nations claim them without ever proving anything, but one thing is for sure they are better in Belgium.
      I'm French from the Belgium border.

    • @futuredirector999
      @futuredirector999 6 років тому +3

      That's the joke

    • @zorbeclegras5708
      @zorbeclegras5708 4 роки тому

      This is a thorny question. First, in France, the French fries terms do not exist, any more than Belgian fries: They are called simply fries. For the historical part, I will base my memory on a reading that I made about it a few years ago (and I do not remember the reference). Basically, it was said that the first mentions written on fries come from Belgium, but a menu mentioning potatoes fried in goose fat about a decade after this Belgian writing was found in the region of Toulouse. The written records do not mention how long ago this practice existed in either of the two countries, it is for the moment impossible to decide this oh so thorny question! ;) Can be in a third country? ...: p

    • @zorbeclegras5708
      @zorbeclegras5708 4 роки тому

      . The written records do not mention how long ago this practice existed in either of the two countries, it is for the moment impossible to decide this oh so thorny question! ;) Can be in a third country? ...: p

  • @blakecastillo2474
    @blakecastillo2474 4 роки тому +1

    I like what you have to say about the comic world, but if you eat your lunch over another comic video while doing another poor reading of someone's beautiful Art, I might need to slap you via dictation!

  • @fanooch1
    @fanooch1 6 років тому +4

    Is it Moi-be-us or is it Mo-be-us?

    • @Qwerty-ks8dn
      @Qwerty-ks8dn 5 років тому

      If you speak German you'll know how to say it.

  • @MarcoPolo-xu9te
    @MarcoPolo-xu9te 6 років тому +2

    I love Moebius! I discovered him back in thhe 90´s, and have his series Incal (published in Portuguese by Meriberica), something in Spanish, and once I got an isseu by Dark Horse comics that is a collection of many pieces (Is the man good?, Trip to Pharagonescia and others). He´s one of the best ever! Thanks for the tribute. Bye!

  • @alexanderlindner5808
    @alexanderlindner5808 6 років тому +25

    Hi, Jean never took acid. He smoked pot. Greets from Europe.

    • @ThoughtPumpkin0
      @ThoughtPumpkin0 6 років тому +4

      Alexander Lindner he took mushrooms

    • @nathanb5579
      @nathanb5579 5 років тому +2

      Yes, he did take acid.

    • @Visual_Writer
      @Visual_Writer 5 років тому

      Hi Alex! 😂 I see we share a livelong hero of Comics.

    • @hingeslevers
      @hingeslevers 4 роки тому +1

      I think he used peyote sometime, changed his whole outlook on life

  • @trukeesey8715
    @trukeesey8715 4 роки тому +1

    "...for financial reasons." Can you name at least two of those reasons for us please?