MBTI Perceiving Axes: Se Ni and Ne Si
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- On episode 2 of our introduction to MBTI series, we discuss the four cognitive functions of 2 perceiving axes: Se Ni and Ne Si. Do you use extraverted sensing and introverted intuition or extraverted intuition and introverted sensing?
ESTJ, ISTJ, ESFJ, ISFJ, ENTP, INTP, ENFP and INFP use Si and Ne.
ENTJ, INTJ, ENFJ, INFJ, ESTP, ISTP, ESFP, and ISFP use Ni and Se.
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Short explanation:
Se percieves the present so Ni guesses the consequences.
Si picks and stores the details so Ne relates them.
im fked i do both
As an ESTP, the trick for using Ni is to let it play out in the background, then be ready to grasp it when it delivers connections or creativity. I never like "brainstorming" to me it's like trying to force creativity. I let the data process in the background, then let solutions come to me. Those nuggets are often golden.
Yeah i agree with you! I am an ISFP and i also have noticed conclusions and ideas come when they come.
That's cool dude. I am sure you have very strong reasoning. I have to find a place to throw Ne on like math or mbti, or anything abstract or else I get bored. For some reason Ne doms find pleasure ignoring things in front of their face that they should be accountable to.
Because of my intuition I have a very foggy idea of reality and I understand the things in life that don't matter, but luckily I can make a career out of math doing research, but I would be helpless otherwise if it was the 1800's and I was a poor farm boy.
I think an Se user would be a farmer just like me, but not poor and wouldn't complain and actually get things done and move the economy forward haha.
Sensors truthfully and stereotypically are much more disciplined, I think.
That is exactly how my process works as an ENTP, I am literally always writing shit down that just magically appears in my mind about problems and they are ALWAYS helpful these little NI nuggets, i never used to pay much attention to them regrettably.
I'm an ISTP and I can consciously use ni although I prefer not to most of the time. And ni naturally comes to me when I am sleeping or showering.
@@justina2320 Same! If only I had known this sooner. I am an ISFP previously mis-typed as an ENFP for about 3-4 years. I write poetry as a hobby, and it really hit me hard when I realised that I have FEEL and EXPERIENCE first before I write stuff. And always, my writing contains some sensual descriptions which would otherwise be absent if I were actually an ENFP. I was so stubborn and thought I knew everything about myself.
So... Se is like taking videos and Ni is like watching videos that Se has taken (and making predictions how next film would look like) and Si is like taking still shots and Ne is like browsing photo albums of Si photos? No wonder Ne users eyes roll so much ;)
Excellent summary! The thoughtfulness and work you have put in this video are obvious, and pay off.
It's incredible to see UA-cam being used to share independent study and theories. You are certainly trailblazing a lot of new territory and ideas here in a very young psychological science! As socionics becomes more popular, perhaps your work will be studied in the future no differently than traditional peer-reviewed work.
INFP: Wow thanks for your encouraging comment!
Thanks for this video! I relate the most to the Se-Ni axis. The analogy was really useful. I was really frustrated because most videos just give a description about the cognitive functions without giving a concrete example of how they are used.
I related so hard to the Ne thought example for the red dress 😂 Can‘t wait for the judging axes :)
Si Ne is beautiful and personal❤🌈💯
I used to think I was ENFP Ne-Si, but it appears I am ESFP Se-Ni because I look more at contextual information in the moment. I have learned how to think more hypothetically, but I am naturally more focused on concrete factors that may not be considered in a conceptual question. I do think my Ni is quite developed though, because I can think abstractly and make intuitive predictions that usually come true.
This was pretty comprehensive, thanks for putting it together. Looking forward to the next part!
Thank you for this video--it was so accurately and beautifully done!! The images and graphs were extremely helpful : ) It's so hard for me to wrap my mind around NE/SI and this really helped. I will definitely be sharing it with family: my husband first, who's an INFP.
Si : order
Ne : Chaos
Ni : Overthinks everything
Se : Enjoy life as it is
You gals are better at this MBTI stuff than many people who claim to be experts.
AMAZING VIDEO!!!! I love how you described the associations that Si-Ne users make that make no sense to me as an INFJ!
right it’s so interesting cuz i don’t understand how Se-Ni works
Can't wait to see your judging axes video! I have ALOT of questions about this concept
Really good job, wayyyyy better than most of the carp shoot mbti videos on youtube.
Honestly the first video which I actually understood and learned something from
I am now 100% sure I have Se Ni in my function stack and Im very thankful
I am definitely an Ne dominant and Si inferior user, this video made it more clear to me, so fascinating.
I LOVE THIISSS!!
Why is this so godlike lol, thank you for this.
omg this makes so much sense now, especially Ne, like sometimes I'm literally staring at a question or in a situation or smth and I'll literally not know what to say because there's just too many ways to interpret it and they're all equally likely imo and then other people are like "it's obviously this one??" and I'm like "HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU F**KING WIZARD??"
The best and easiest explanation I have seen so far! Now I am truly sure I have Ne/SI axis instead of Ni/Se!
This makes so much sense! Thanks!
Very well done!! You seemed to put a lot of thought in this analysis, so thank you for sharing it with us :)
You put so much work on this !🤣much Respect
This is definitely a great summary of the perceiving axes, and your voice makes this video really enjoyable. Wonderful job!
thank you, this helped me a lot💘💘 i’m almost sure i’m se-ni. i’ve already mistyped too many times as intuitive 😂
Se Ni makes total sense but Ne Si seems so weird lol. I didn't know some people work like that.
Ne Si feels very good. Its almost like a movie inside your body.
Infp’s and ENFPs.
I like my NeSi, it's so random that I liked it so much 😂
The way the frickin Ne mind works though... it’s hella funny XD My ENFP friend keeps spouting ideas and associations and I’m often like “uhh wow how the heck did you even come to these conclusions”
I want to use both because they’re both very useful to me. Though I’m an Ni-Se user, I wish I could spout out as many creative ideas with the power of Ne-Si.
I definitely use SeNi axis... Veeeery informative video.
I have watched many of your vids and learned so much. Thank you for them! I’m just wondering if you plan to do more of the functions in each spot series? I looked through your channel but couldn’t find one for Ne and a couple others.
-INFP
That was a really nice, clear way of explaining it, much better than some other videos I've seen ^_^
This is so well-explained! Love this
I can't wait to see the video about the judging axes :)
@ from 7:17 to 7:58 i can totally see why as an intp why people look at me crazy when i try to diagnose or deconstruct things.
Great Job. Best explanation I've heard. 👌Keep it up.
I love your Visual representation! Graphs speak to me lol.
This makes high Ni users seem so useless but there predictions are usually the most accurate out of everyone else and that’s very valuable.
So, if I see an image of a man and a girl eating in a restaurant, and my thought process is: "they may be father and daugther, and they are eating out because it may be an special ocasion, probably her birthday, but the mom is not there so maybe the girl doesn't have a mom or they may be divorced" is that Ne/Si or Se/Ni?
Great video! One question though: do sensory experiences not trigger memories or associations in Se-users PERIOD, or just not most of the time? I ask because the Se and Ni stuff seemed very familiar to me, while the Si and Ne stuff seemed very novel, but sensations do sometimes spontaneously trigger memories or associations for me. Not most of the time, but occasionally.
INFP: When Alex and I are discussing a concept, she usually drills deeper into the concept with Ni, supported by past Se examples that are related on a physical or experiential level. Since the connection is evident, I hesitate to call them associations. My Si tends to make personal and symbolic associations, such that the connection doesn't make sense to others (unless I explain it), leading my Ne to veer away from the original concept into new concepts. Hope this answers your question :)
Hehe that cat's face I know what you want made me laugh.
Me, an INFP: "This is getting boring, what if a horde of zombies busted down the doors? What if I sacrificed myself so my date could escape? Considering I'm already in love with this woman, my last moments staring into her eyes before the zombies started taking me would be so poetic...I wonder what I'm gonna do for my novel I'm writing? Should I incorporate that? Man, I'd make a great writer. I'd be the next George R R Martin! But I can finish anything, I get too bored, sometimes! Art? No, I get too impatient, plus it dosen't feel right guy, exploiting my talents for money. I guess I'll di-"
My date: Have you even been listening?
Me: ...(*casually slithers under the table out of embarrassment*)
ok this si rlly helpful im 90% sure i use ne
It's just funny how no matter how you put it, Ne Si always seems so absurd in comparison to Ni Se
That was both confusing and interesting.
After seeing that example: Yeah I don't think I have Ne.
Wow! Like Elvin bread in Lord of the Rings- packed with enough informational nutrition for days of digestion! Thanks for creating this excellent product. Can you provide the link for the comparable Judging axes description video if it’s available?
INFP: Wow thanks! Unfortunately that's... still coming. The pace of our video releases slowed down a lot after I had to get a job. We'll try our best though!
Looking forward to it, whenever it comes out.
As a high Ne user, Ni seems kind of weird...but I think I'm seeing it now in terms of two of the big quantum theories. The Copenhagen interpretation seems like it could be the Ni version: waveform collapse into one path whereby the other possibilities cease to exist once an observation is made. In contrast Ne strikes me as the Many-Worlds interpretation, whereby the other possibilities exist elsewhere once an observation is made, even though one observation constitutes YOUR current reality. Needless to say I have always found the Copenhagen interpretation annoying on a personal level. XD Does this sound at all like a useful metaphor? --INFP
I've always considered myself as an ENFP, but I must say I do share many of the qualities of Se. I will be the first to respond to a phone ringing (even though I'm easily startled) and am generally more in the moment when i choose to be. I am observant of reality as it happens, while one of my friends will be completely unaware and preocuppied with her own thoughts and goals, focusing more on the end-result I guess than just enjoying the physical environment of a place, which I am able to do quite naturally. Yet I do have moments of conceptual lala land and can get quite wrapped up in my own imagination and philosophical pondering about the meaning of life, being more drawn to fiction and fantasy-based movies. Does this make me an Se-Ni/Ni-Se user? Because I can also relate to the Si-Ne axis somewhat, having a very vivid imagination and an ability to recall past events that made me laugh, or is there less of a connection between recalling memories and Si? Just curious and intrigued.
You sound very se ni to me
Se users are more about enjoying the now and ne is more about putting dreams into motion.
@@rosabscura thanks for your opinion! Yeah I figured.
noticing what's happeing isn't really the quality of Se, it's more Si, honing in to details and what's different from one another. Se user and Ne dominant can be quite adsent minded and forgetful, actually.
Wow!! Your best video
When I saw the winding staircase I saw shell before they put up the picture of the shell. Which one would that make me?
That was excellent!
Now I'm sure that I'm NeSi user :)
this video is really good. The examples are very helpful. I just would recomend talking slower, sometimes it's dificult to keep up. =) but my congratilations for a video with examples instead of a very conceptual explanation
you can slow down the player speed of the video, I did that when making notes.
Thanks i love it
I would like to see the judging axis video.
Ni - Se
I liked you video alot and it helped me understand more but i still dont know which ones i use. For example im given a challenging math problem. Usually my first instinct after attempt is to look at the problem and compare it to the problems we did during the lectures or other examples until i find the equation or steps that fit the problem. While i do the problem i think about how we did this before in class and what the problem is asking for. I predict several outcomes that might work for the problem and go with the one that seems right.im bad at brainstorming on the fly and get ideas from nowhere but think about 100 completely different things a minute. but make connections with the past and how i felt. Idk which one i use someone plz help me
Seems to be me I'm an Ni Se user, does that mean I'm an INFJ and not an INFP? I'm so confused.
Well yes definitely possible since INFJ is Ni dominant and Se inferior. They also have Fe Ti judging axis.
Ahhh. So Se-Ni is like wine tasters or art critics. Me as an Ne-InferiorSi user: "how can they project such nonsense onto a simple taste or appearance?"
im se ni lol lemme give u a description.
hmm this orange juice is sour and jumps right on your tongue, overwhelming you with its taste. its as if it has the power of bitterness but presents itself explosively
Ne+si
So how much do you charge per Axe?
i dont care about fashion therefore when i see a red dress nothing goes into my mind im too busy being anxious and overthinking something more important thats somewhere else
Dat michael pierce influence
Still waiting for the thinking-feeling axis video
INFP: Yup. They take a long time to produce.
This was dense!
rolina painter why
How
Next month haha
SI squad, where are you? :)