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ASUS ZenWiFi AX XT8 vs ASUS ZenWiFi AX Mini XD4
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- ASUS XT8 vs ASUS XD4 Mesh Wifi 6 System. Covering the following topics; speed tests, range tests, dual-band vs triband, USB ports and more. This tri band ASUS Wi-Fi 6 AX6600 system works well in terms of range and speed to improve wireless backhaul speeds. Where the dual band ASUS XD4 AX1800 works very well considering its price! Answering the question, which one is right for you! XT8 can potentially be best mesh wifi 2021
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ASUS ZenWiFI AX XT8 (AX6600): amzn.to/2QPMu6i
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Network 101: Home Networks Explained: • Network 101 | Simplifi...
ASUS ZenWiFi XT8 Network Drive Setup Tutorial: • Asus ZenWiFi AX XT8 Ne...
ASUS ZenWiFi XT8 Review: • ASUS ZenWiFi AX XT8 Un...
ASUS ZenWiFi AX XD4 Review: • ASUS ZenWiFi AX Mini (...
ASUS ZenWiFi XD4 Setup Guide: • TP-Link Deco X60 Unbox...
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0:00 - ASUS XT8 vs ASUS XD4 Specs
4:29 - Tri Band vs Dual Band
7:23 - Speed Ratings
7:48 - Testing Environment
9:33 - Single Router Speed Tests
9:55 - Wired Backhaul Speed Tests
11:21 - Wireless Backhaul Speed Tests
13:25 - ASUS XT8 and ASUS XD4 Range Tests
16:40 - ASUS ZenWiFi Features
17:33 - ASUS ZenWiFi Final Thoughts
![Testing my ASUS ZenWiFi XT9 Mesh System [Speed][Range][Roaming] & ...](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IxCfaAfDx_E/mqdefault.jpg)
Product Links:
ASUS ZenWiFi AX Mini XD4 (AX1800): amzn.to/3N7bCka
ASUS ZenWiFI AX XT8 (AX6600): amzn.to/2QPMu6i
16 Port Gigabit Ethernet Switch: amzn.to/3frkSi8
8 Port Gigabit Ethernet Switch: amzn.to/3waDJDP
Network (Ethernet) Cables: amzn.to/3w9czNH
Cable Modem: amzn.to/3dmUnrg
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Unlike other youtuber's reviews, this one had so much detailed information. I love the fact that you tested wireless and wired backhaul. And Ai Protection Pro vs Classic differences. Thanks!
Appreciate it!
You explain the mesh wifi connection well to me, especially the wireless backhaul and wired backhaul, even able to be connected via a Switch. Connection illustration really helps. Not like other UA-camrs, they rarely explain wireless backhaul band, not even mention wire connected each other via a Switch. I also like the comparison of hardware and feature differences. Thank you !!!
Thanks! I go into super detail here and show all the connections: ua-cam.com/video/EgflfacpDgI/v-deo.html
Very nice, detailed review! Exactly the level of information I was looking for. And presented in a nice, uncomplicated way.
Thanks!
Great video. Any idea or suggestions regarding the ethernet/wired backhaul instability? It seems that firmware updates tend to break the ethernet backhaul feature. Do you have any suggestions to prevent or any way of knowing if if a firmware update will break a feature when the system is working well? Should we turn off auto update for the firmware or do you recommend leaving it on for security updates?
Either way thank you for the detailed review.
Wow! You're videos are soooo thorough...really appreciated!
Thanks!
Great video, I love the way you keep complex concepts plain without oversimplifying 'em!
A qeustion for you: Has it any sense to mix the two products? I mean, I have a huge old house (italian one) with very wide walls so I was thinking to cover the interior with 2 to 4 XT8 and the garden with 3 XD4 but I was wondering if the wireless performance degradation I will have due to the XD4s will affect also the traffic through the XT8s...
Thanks in advance,
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Thanks! That can work, check out the Asus ET8 as well, that seems the be the fastest one. I did a video on that recently: ua-cam.com/video/cqcJ6oP6Ky0/v-deo.html
The 3 XD4's will not effect the 3 XT8's speed at the home. Every device tries to go as fast as possible. If you add a slower one like the XD4, it only effects the XD4.
I think I've read that the XT8 falls back to dual band to talk to the XD4 so you lose the tri-band benefit 😕
Great review! 5/5, excellent information. I'm opting for the XT8, going to the store tomorrow.
Thanks!
Just as a heads up, the ET8 is the XT8 successor: ua-cam.com/video/cqcJ6oP6Ky0/v-deo.html
But probably won't be too different for wifi 6 and below devices compared to the XT8
Thank you for a great review! It really helped me understand mesh networks!
You’re welcome!
Great comparison. Really helpful! Here’s my question: could I mix the two? I’m thinking using two of the xt8s for the main and where I can’t wire them and another two CD4s wired to the main XT8. Would that work? Do they mix seamlessly?
Thanks! That should work
Great video. One of the best reviewers I watched. Thank you for your review.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for all the info in your videos. Quick question. I have gigabit internet. I want a triband system because I don't want to run wires (3 floors in our home). Do all the triband systems you've done reviews on replace the router from my internet provider (I'd like to send that back and save the monthly rental fee). If not, which systems do you suggest that would?
Thanks! Yes, all of the mesh wifi's I have reviewed replace your internet providers router or any other touer. That's definitely a good idea, to return theirs and get your own.
Thanks for an amazing video. I have a question though. I have a wired backhaul and already using a pair of XT8. For additional nodes can I use XD4s w/ my XT8 mesh system. Would I be able to modify settings smoothly as currently (eg. system settings, guest network etc.)
Thanks
Yes and yes and you're welcome
Hi, so to clarify you can use one of the XT8 nodes as the main wifi modem?
Thank you buddy, really appreciate this video!
No problem
Very good video Sir! Was really helpfull and informative.
Thanks
Thanks for the comparison review
Thanks for watching!
Great review - learned a lot. Would be interested in your feedback about where to physically mount the units - some people say mount them as high as possible for more range, others say it does not matter. I have a long ranch-style house but with 2 floors so was thinking about mounting 1st floor on far sides of house with modem in middle. Thoughts?
Thanks! Typically speaking, the higher the better but really what that means is don't place it on the floor. I think anything desk level or higher and you should be golden. Granted mine is typically placed around 7 ft above.
For your second comment, so when you say mounting on the far sides of the house, I'm assuming you mean you are going to run wired backhaul? Since your router needs to connect to your modem via ethernet. If your whole system is wired backhaul, then you can place them just about anywhere but for a wireless backhaul setup, you typically want them about 30 to 50 feet from each other. Hope this helps. I've done a video on how to set this stuff up with examples of showing the connections and everything here: ua-cam.com/video/EgflfacpDgI/v-deo.html
Does either of these routers support nat loopback or hairpin natting
Very useful video - thank you very much.
The fact that the Mini XD4 has only one ethernet port for the nodes is a deal-breaker for me. XT8 is too expensive too, so I'll probably stick to what I have at the moment until the XT8 comes down in price a bit; I mean, a lot :-)
Thanks. Check it the TP Link Deco X60 or X68. They are both great and have good prices as well.
Check out the ax92u. Slightly pricier than the xd4, but cheaper than the xt8, and yet, with all the bells and whistles of the xt8, except the design. If you don't mind the gamer design, you're effectively getting the same product for 100$ less.
Hi! This video is what I was looking for!! One info: do you think in a gigabit internet connection (1000mbps) the xd4 and the xt8 have the same speed over 500mbps? Or xt8 is a little faster??
Over Ethernet they should be the same, over WiFi the XT8 should support faster speeds. The ET8 is even faster, I reviewed that as well
Thanks for the very detailed and informative video!
A question which is slightly off topic: What is the difference getting a ASUS ZenWifi system (pre-configured mesh system) vs combining 2 ASUS AiMesh-enabled routers? Assuming the specifications are similar, say Wifi 6, dual band. I am looking to use wireless backhaul if that matters. The consideration is that the ZenWifi system is more expensive compared to combining 2 AiMesh routers
No problem! In theory, there's not supposed to be a difference but in my mind it's better to get the mesh system. Here's why: when a mesh system is created, it's tested as a complete system so if there are problems, it's easier to find. In addition, when there are updates, it usually involves every device. Where as two separate routers while I'm sure are tested to some degree, I don't think they test them quite as much because it's less likely they will be paired vs the mesh system. In addition, updates for different routers should you go that route will come at different times. I prefer the mesh system and think of it as getting a cheaper price for getting a "combo pack"
Does the wireless backhaul on the XT8 benefit 2.4 GHz devices, like Ring cams?
Ring camera doesn’t need much bandwidth. The wireless backhaul is really for the secondary XT8 device to provide better speeds to every device that is connecting to it. I can say yes, it does but that ring camera doesn’t need much bandwidth. But when you’re on your tablet, laptop, phone etc that may require more bandwidth depending on what your doing, there will be more bandwidth available compared to a dual band mesh like the XD4 making your internet speeds better
Great detailed video !
Thanks
Great video. Can I use the 2 XT8s as nodes for my existing asus rapture?
Thanks! Yes as long as your Asus supports AiMesh
Thanks for explaining everything simply but not over simplifying
I am planing on upgrading my google nest wifi as it has been failing regularly earlier, i will be running around 1 router and 4 nodes, i was planing on the XD4 i have a full smart home and a bunch of devices around 40 devices without guests including the smart devices , so you suggest the XD4 or the XT8 and use only 4 devices instead of 5 or do you suggest another brand, the issue i see with Asus is the wifi roaming and with the google when it’s working it’s seamless do you has it been fixed or not , also all nodes are wired backhaul, I have been studying for week now and I keep going back and forth between brands can’t decide your advice will be much appreciated
No problem.
Every home and use case is different so I will give my general recommendations.
If you want something good that’s budget friendly then I recommend TP-Link like the new XE75, XE5300 or XE75 Pro. They are all very similar to each other, XE75 Pro has a slight advantage which may not apply to you (has one fast 2.5Gbps port) compared to the other two.
If you want the best of the best, price aside the ASUS ET12 Pro or Netgear Orbi RBKE963.
If you’re using wired backhaul, I think the Deco XE5300 is probably the optimal choice. You can check out other Deco options as well like the X20 or X55 if you want super budget.
Great video, very in-depth! Additional question: I hook up gateway XD4 to a switch to do wired backhaul - clear. BUT If i want to hook up network audio or TV as well near the node XD4, can I also use another switch? So I connect gateway via swith to another switch (different part of the home) and the node XD4 there? :D
Thanks! Great question, simple answer is yes. The most important thing is Modem -> Gateway XD4 -> After this point, it's almost all fair game. So you can go Modem -> Gateway XD4 -> switch -> switch -> XD4 and you will still be fine.
There is a limit that's placed by the Subnet mask but that's getting much more into detail and that limit is 253 (255 but 2 are reserved) granted I don't think the XD4 can handle that many devices so this is not something you need to worry about unless you have a ton of devices.
Awesome video! I have an ASUS 7800 with 6E. Do you think adding a et8 with 6E would be a good solution or would I be better swapping it out for two et8’s?
Thanks!
Generally speaking I prefer the mesh set but with ASUS it may not matter since they both support AiMesh. It's funny that I just posted the RT-AXE7800 review, assuming that's the one you have.
@@landpet oh nice! I’ll have to check it out. I could probably send back the 7800 but was hoping it would do the trick by itself. I have a 1Gb connection, getting 500Mb downstairs and 380 upstairs. Was hoping to get closer to 700-800 downstairs and 500 upstairs.
Quick question. Can I do a wired backhaul on the XT8 using existing powerline adapters I have, or would I be better off keeping it wireless using the triband?
Yes you can use existing powerline adapters to make it wired backhaul. But it depends how fast it can go, you may or may not be better off going over wireless backhaul. It also depends on your internet speeds, for my internet speeds, I can get full speeds over wireless so it just depends based on your location and your internet speeds. You can try both, the XT8 automatically detects one or another, you literally just plug in an ethernet cable or remove it. It will configure it automatically.
I have a 5500 sq foot building, 3 floors (main floor, walk out large basement (13 foot ceilings) and an upstiars. Building is on an 0.3 acre lot with a small backyard and dock about 40 yards from modem. I prefer to hardwire from the modem/router to the basement for some gaming systems. What would you recommend in the ASUS product line? A router like the RT-AX82U and two nodes such as the XT8? Or is buying the router sort of useless? Would three XT8 essentially work the same?
XT9 offers great performance for the price. I would just get a 4 pack of the XT9 and run wired (XT9 even works well wirelessly) should be golden as long as they are spaced evenly.
HI HOW DO I TURN OFF MY HOME ROUTER BACHAUL OFF
Hey thanks for your informative videos. I was wondering if you could do a video with the XT8 router + XD4 wired backhaul satellite? Because there's just 1 room in my house that the main router can't reach. A few questions ahead of time:
1. Would that affect the performance of the main XT8 Router?
2. Will it affect the AiProtection or security software?
3. How many devices does the XD4 support comfortably? I have a dozen of IP cameras and IOT devices that are connected at all times.
Thanks in advance!
No problem.
I can't do that video cause I no longer have these.
1. No it will not affect the performance of the main XT8 router
2. That's a good question, I don't know. You may be able to stick with the AiProtection Pro since that's the main router but I'm not sure
3. It should handle a dozen very comfortably. I don't know what the limit would be but I'll take a very rough guess and say more than 30 but that in connection with your XT8 should handle a lot more devices.
@@landpet thank you! Looking forward to your new videos!
How well the wifi nodes "switch" the connection to devices to other mesh nodes, as you walk around the house ? ( thats most important factor .., i use ax11000 as the main router .. and plan to purchase xd4 3 pack.. to cover the whole house )
The mesh system detects which node has the strongest signal and switches it to that one, in simplistic form.
Very useful video! Thanks very much
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks. What do you think of the new XD6?
I haven’t played with it yet, looks like good specs. I’m playing with the new Asus ET8, that one is really good, gonna have the video up in a couple days
What are your thoughts on running the XT8 2 pack with the 3 pack XD4? I would use the XT8 next to the modem in a closet corner room, switch, then ethernet backhaul to the 2nd xt8, and the 1st XD4. 3370 SQ home, 2 stories. RIght now i'm using the XD4 3 pack. Not sure if i should just get another pack of XD4, or use the XT8 as the main router to extend coverage. THank you so much.
That should be fine and it's good that you mentioned you will make the XT8 the main one since that one is better.
Option 5: 10:52 What if you put your switch after your internet, and go from the switch to the 3 nodes individually. Does this change anything? Is this preferable?
Modem > router has to be first, switch can come afterwards
Super helpful!!
Glad it was helpful!
Great comparison, many thanks! Do you need a seperate modem for both setups or can both of them function as a modem as well? Would you suggest to purchase a seperate modem and connect them to it or not?
Thanks! Yes you need a separate modem for either setup. You can purchase those or ask your ISP to provide one assuming it’s included with your monthly fee
@@landpet Thanks for your reply, is it true that one of the nodes has 2 ethernet ports? And do you connect that specific node to the modem?
Would you recommend to purchase and use the ASUS RT-AX55U for the XD4 setup?
@@marnix9800 You don't need an additional router (well it's optional I should say). The XD4 comes in a 3 pack, you connect the main one to the modem and the other two nodes connect to the main router. I actually have a setup video on this where I demo everything. ua-cam.com/video/EgflfacpDgI/v-deo.html
great video, very useful, thanks!
No problem!
Very clear video but i have a question about coverage. The XD4 3pack is cheaper than the XT8 2pack. Im planning to use wired backhaul so what option would be best to choose to have the best coverage? 3 XD4 or 2 XT8? Thanks!
Depends on the size of your home, I would say if you’re home is larger than 2400 sq ft, then I would go with the XD4 otherwise 2 XT8 should get you good coverage. Wired backhaul makes even budget systems amazing.
@@landpet Thanks for your reply, I will go for 3 XD4 then but on one of the nodes I would need 1 extra LAN port. I was thinking of buying 2 routers and 1 node to avoid an extra switch. I would configure the second router as node. Will the WAN port of this second router work as an extra LAN port when placed as a node or is this wishfull thinking? Thanks
Really love your reviews and regular watcher. I have an Zenwifi AX system and just moved to where I now can get 1 gig home internet speeds. I have done a test of the speed coming into the router and I am getting 950-980 down and over 1 gig up. However, the Zen is only giving me 500-700 mps down and even lower up. I am wireless backhaul due to my house setup. I don’t have ability to use coaxial connection. I was wondering about your thoughts on opening up the second 5 ghz band for wifi device use. Is there something else I can do to improve the speed or do I just need to get a newer system? Note: when I am doing my wireless speed test I am only 7 ft away directly in front of the router. Any thoughts? I just have the base configuration and connecting to the 5 ghz band. I am quite disappointed at the speed that close. I am using a IPhone 12. Thanks for any insights.
Thanks!
WiFi devices can’t typically get full speeds, that’s been my experience. Assuming you connecting a computer via Ethernet gets you your full speeds, WiFi will almost always be slower. The issue is that WiFi uses half duplex and shares across other WiFi devices, so there’s bound to be slowdowns. Sounds like you’re doing everything right
I live in a 330m2 condo with many walls. Can I mix and match between XT8 AND XD4? Example XT8 is router and 2 XD4 node? Do you recommend such setup?
Yes you can mix and match. If you’re doing wireless backhaul, I wouldn’t mix and match. If you’re doing wired backhaul then mix and match is fine. For wireless backhaul, there will be more speed loss on the nodes if you mix and match
Can you please do a comparison of these two systems with the XD6? Thank you!
I don’t have these anymore and I don’t have the XD6.
Hi Mate,
Really good video and appreciate the info.
Was just wondering if it's possible to just plug the ASUS XT8 into an existing router (The ISP won't let us not use it) and use that and additional Asus XT8 in a mesh config?
I'm just hoping the Asus devices will extend the existing Wireless signal coming in from the ISP original Modem/Router combo
Thanks!
Yes you can do that, there’s an option in the asus app or browser settings to run this in access point mode
@@landpet Most appreciated, will buy two shortly ;)
My main one has a white light on it but when I moved the other two the light is blue and blinking. WHY?
Make sure you setup the other two near the main one within the asus router app. Then you can move them to your desired location and it should reconnect automatically within 2 minutes
Thanks for this review. I currently have a Nest wifi router with three old google wifi pucks as points. I have been frustrated with the drop in speed on the google system that a lot of users are experiencing after an update a year ago, it almost seems like its being throttled. Google doesn't know or care what the problem is and just suggest a factory resets which works but only temporarily. Anyway, I am done with them and moving on. I currently have Starlink beta (thanks Elon!) and while they target 150mbps down right now they are aiming for 1gbps (with a long term target is 10gbps!) so I'd like a little future proofing for 1gb speed. I have cat6&7 cable to all areas I would like a mesh point to be so judging by your video it seems the best choice would be the ZenWiFi AX Mini XD4 (I don't have enough devices to warrant the need for a 2nd 5ghz band if not using for a wireless backhaul on the XT8). I can't seem to find a one pack of either the router or the point/node to expand coverage if needed, but I guess with the Asus AiMesh I could just add any compatible Asus router to expand reach.
Yup you should be good with the XD4 since you have wired backhaul. XD4 is good but I will also mention that I also like the TP Link Deco X60 for dual band mesh wifi.
Good info ..thanks
No problem
Very good content! So correct me if I'm wrong - But I can As I understand connect my main desktop to the second ZenWiFi XT8 via ethernet when I'm on wireless backhaul and get a decent speed ? I Don't need any usb wifi adapter ?
Yes on wireless backhaul.
You can connect your desktop via ethernet to the secondary ZenWiFi XT8 that's wirelessly connected to the main ZenWiFi XT8 router that's connected to the modem
@@landpet Very quick answer, thank you! One of the most informative channels out there, thanks.
@@drownd this one's even quicker :) you're welcome
Very good and understandable. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Good content. Your points were good. I have 7mb internet connection, so speed is going to suck.the performance areas and use the existing XD4s for low performance areas.
Thanks, yeah the XD4 should be fine
I am using Asus Lyra 2200 with one node burned and thinking get XT8 or XD4 as replacement...not sure will it work together
It should work cause it has AiMesh
Can I use the 2nd 5GHz band for my devices or it only works to communicate to the satellite?
I forget off the top of my mind for wireless backhaul. In wired backhaul you can use it for sure
Can I use a second Asus ZenWifi AX Mini Xd4R as a node instead of router? If so, what do I need to do? Thank you! Ben Franklin
You should be able to, all you need to do is add it to the existing network using the asus app. Asus should switch it to a node automatically
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like tri-band is probably more important than wifi-6?
Depending on the scenario, speed ratings matter as well. You typically get the most gains from triband during wireless backhaul and if you have a ton of devices. Wifi 6 is important as well cause you can go faster and further. Long story short, they're both important and one can be more important than the other depending on the scenario
Does mesh works perfect with AX 3000 or ax55 models as it does in zen models?
Asus mesh wifi's work with any Asus router that supports AiMesh
Is it the smaller black ones for wifi hot spots or for people traveling around?
Just to expand coverage, you can put them in the corners of the house to get more range outside as well as the inside.
can you connect the xt8 to the xd4 and use them together?
Yes
Thanks so much!
No problem!
Great video. I just set up the XD4 for my brother at his house. 2-story long house with detached garage. Hub at one end of the house, node-1 at the far end (35') of the house and node-2 in the garage (behind house to one end, think L shape). Without node-1, the bedrooms upstairs and at the far end of the house, had poor coverage. With it, signal strength is flat (good) across all floors and even outside in the front and back yards.
Now I'm wondering how this system would work in my more square house, with the hub in my basement (where my current WAN connection is), node-1 on the first floor (where my AC-RT68u in AP mode is) and node-2 on the 2nd floor where I don't have an AP. So signal from there to the AP is about 90%.
Thanks! Seems like it will work fine (assuming when you say hub you're referring to the router, cause hub is actually just like a switch but slows down since the connections are shared).
@@landpet Cool. Yep, I meant the main unit.
Does it come with Poe? Power over Ethernet xd4
No
How many equipments can you connect to the AX XT8??
I don't see a number, I'm estimating probably around 100+ wifi devices for a set of 2. More if you count ethernet connections.
Hi I have the ZenWiFi AX XT8 can I extend my network with the mini? Are they compatible?
Yes you can, they are compatible
Great video just ordered the XT8 and will be returning the Eero pro 6 which really was not great for the satellite speeds.
Thanks! XT8 is better than the eero Pro 6 for wireless backhaul speeds.
@@landpet do you find even though its 1 main router and only satellite its faster than the Eero pro that has 1 main router and 2 satellites?
@@joeburns7819 eero Pro 6 with 2 satellites will provide more range but in terms of faster speeds if you're closer to the router or satellite, the ASUS will be a bit faster.
Can the xt8 have one as router, one wireless, and one pugged into another building via ethernet.
Yes as long as the ethernet cable doesn't get past 100 meters. Yes you can mix and match wired and wireless
great video thanks
Thanks
Can you get in to the settings of the XD4 node by itself and make it a bridge?
Idk, I don’t have it anymore
So I have a ASUS Gaming router already. The AX5700 WiFi 6 dual band. Can I use the XT8 or the XD4 using 2 or 3 extenders ?
Yes they all support AiMesh
@@landpet any idea after install how far apart you can roughly put them to still get signal between mesh extenders ? Trying to reach out about 500 feet to back shed.
@@christopher41cove that entirely depends on how much interference there is, doesn't sound like much interference if your shed is 500 feet away. These things are designed to be a lot closer than that to each other. My current units are typically 40 to 50 feet away but that's with some walls in between. That typically gets me some good speeds. I don't know if that will work, might be a stretch, but it's not impossible if there is literally nothing else around. You need the more powerful XT8 or ET8, forget the XD4. I don't even know if the XT8 can do that, maybe if there is nothing else around.
Hello landpet, I am not sure if you tried setting Guest Network in your XT8. I tried it and connect my cellphone into it. After 8 minutes without activity XT8 will drop my connection. Then if I re-connect, I have error message "The request "Guest SSID" has been timed out." Not sure how to fix this issue. Please try and check if you can see what is wrong here. Thanks in advance.
I didn't have any issues with the guest network, some of my devices are permanently on the guest network and everything was fine. It does suggest to turn off the guest network for more security but there's no notification of it, so that doesn't bother me. Does it try to turn off your guest network, try it with another device as well to see if the problem is tied to the phone or the XT8
What are the maximum no of devices can asus XD4 handle when using only 2 nodes?
Not sure, it could do at least 75
@@landpet Oh that's pretty good. Did you notice any heating issue on this?
I plan on getting an ethernet/coaxial adapter to connect my mesh routers together via the cable wiring.
ASUS MA-25 is good for that, i've done a video on that as well
@@landpet Thanks. Looks like I'll probably go with a different brand than ASUS MA-25 since two of those MOCA's are pretty expensive.
Also, I have multiple coaxial/cable ports that all exit into a cable box thing. And so I'll get a dual female 3Ghz connector to connect the two cable wires that will be next to the two ASUS wifi mesh units so I can use coaxial to connect the two wifi units.
Also, this line won't be connected to cable signal as that will be bypassed in the cable box, so should be a cleaner signal and not have to worry about signal going out into the neighborhood, even though they make filters for that.
Maybe a dumb question if it was explained in video and I overlooked it. If I have the Asus XT8, with one connected to the modem directly, and the other other side of a 2 story home with only power, because it's a Wireless backhaul and it has a Tri-Band, on wireless devices (like phones, tablet, laptops) it was getting full speeds. But what about a desktop connected to the secondary node via ethernet-- Would that device get full speeds too being wired ethernet? Pretty much can't do a wired backhaul in my home, and having had the Asus ZenWifi mini, wired to the satellite via ethernet on desktop PC across the home, I was getting around 180Mbps where I too have SPectrum at 400Mbps. If I just got the Asus XT8, because it's a Tri Band, it would give me full speeds on both the main router and the node?
1. If you connect your desktop via ethernet to the secondary device, you will basically get the equivalent speeds of some WiFi devices being right next to it.
2. If you get the Asus XT8, you would get full speeds on the main router, you "can" also get full speeds on the secondary one however this is dependent on how close the secondary XT8 is to the primary XT8. In my case, it was about 40 ft away with a couple walls, if you place it farther away, you may not get those full speeds. Placement is important, if placed correctly, you can absolutely get full speeds on the secondary ASUS XT8 as well.
@@landpet Okay, so just wanted to say you have an ideal condition home. My home, 2,700ish two story home. From looking at front door, back left corner is the modem now, and I'm front top right of home-- COmplete opposite side. I decided to get the TP Link Deco X68 from your review as it offered good Triband performance, even if lower than other devices. Also was $200 less. Set it all up as a Wireless backhaul, thinking that dedicated 5Ghz would do some magic as it did for you. Nope. All laptops were getting like 45-65 Mbps down, and I got Spectrum which is 400/20 speeds. Wired ethernet to the unit in my room with that wireless backhaul I was peaking at around 110Mbps for the first 2 seconds of the speed test, and would ALWAYS go down and finish at around 70-80Mbps. Yes, I did the firmware update it needed, and checked for updates and it was up to date. Revert BACK to my old setup-- The 2017 Google Wifi 3 pack. Same kind of thing, but as you explain, it's just one acting as router, and two acting as a node or satellite. Wifi devices in the same spot were getting 50-78Mbps, so about same speeds, but the wired desktop to the one node was getting consistently 97-102Mbps. EVery time, no weird peaks and dipping down. So a (now) $199 made in 2017 AC1200 Dual band mesh wifi performs better than a 2021 AX3600 Triband mesh system? Makes no sense to me, and TP Link made the original GOogle On Hub in collab, and does good routers, so I'm just at a loss. I figure my solution is in the fall, when we can give up the fax my Dad needs, just move the modem into my room since I have a coax line here not being used and I'll get the 400Mbps in my room, and his simple needs can do the 80ish Mbps and be fine. Regardless of me not understanding why MY setup isn't getting anywhere near your benchmarks and all, I truly appreciate your thoroughness and honest reviews. Earned and will keep a sub!
Very Good Explain Everything
Thanks
Is asus zenwifi XD6 the new version of the XT8?
If my speeds were only 100mbs, and I used the dx4 and the nodes, could I expect to get full speeds with the nodes? Essentially do the dx4 nodes cap out vs a raw percent of the orginal router speed.
Thanks 😊
I think speeds will get halved roughly, with a triband system, you will most likely get full speeds on the secondary node.
Have you tested?
Hi! What about r/w usb speed?
I did that test on my Asus XT8 video. Can't remember off the top of my head. ua-cam.com/video/4K7qMqSVlGk/v-deo.html
Very well explained even for laymen to understand.
Thanks!
As it concerns the smaller system with the router and two nodes...couldn't you just hook up a basic unmanaged 5 or 8 port switch to each node...and then run an ethernet cable from the router to node one's switch...and then from THAT switch to node two's switch, daisy chaining them together?!?
I would think that that would work just fine and you wouldn't have to run a switch as the central point between all three.
That would work fine as well. I did a whole tutorial video here and I explained how to achieve wired backhaul, there are several ways with the use of one or more switches. ua-cam.com/video/EgflfacpDgI/v-deo.html
Hi, if my internet is not fast enough, like my download speed is around 100mbps, so the peak speed is limited by my own wifi, so should I choose the XD4?
It really depends if you want to use wireless backhaul or not. Generally speaking the XD4 will be fine.
@@landpet I'm a student and I rent houses with other people, so I can only use wireless backhaul because there is not internet port in my room. Yesterday through your video, I didn't understand fully and I think if my network is not fast enough, it doesn't matter whether it's wireless or not, but after watching many videos from your channel, I notice that dual band's wireless backhaul will likely cut the speed in half no matter what the maximum speed is. But I still choose the XD4, because of the price. Maybe in the future when I can afford a fast enough internet, I can live by myself and use wired backhaul.
But I still have a question, if I do not use the wifi at all, I just use ethernet cable connect the node to my computer and I do not use any other device. Will it be better in speed?
can i combined Asus xt8 and xd4 via ethernet and wirelessly?
Yes
@@landpet thank you
Do you need a pc for these?
No
you could do a local iperf test and tell us how much wireless backhaul can give us
I started using a local speed test server starting with my latest router video, the new Asus ET8
Should I consider the CT8? (I asked on an older video but then saw this)
I would rather get the TP Link X68 than the CT8 if you're looking for a great deal on a tri-band mesh wifi 6 (better than the CT8 which is wifi 5). Nest wifi is a solid choice as well but you're right, it's getting dated (answering your other comment here also lol). I did a video on it: ua-cam.com/video/-copWVogcvI/v-deo.html
@@landpet thanks. I'm in Canada and I can only seem to find the Tp-link X60 or X90 models. Price wise the 2pack X60's and CT8's are similar.
@@justins4746 Probably worth trying the CT8 than like you mentioned. Hopefully it works well, I haven't tested that particular model but I imagine it's good.
Great review, thanks
Does the XD4 have the option to schedule turn off the wifi in one of the nodes¿
Thanks! I don't have the device anymore to check, you can turn off specific devices for sure through the parental controls, maybe the nodes as well.
Are those little Black wifi routers ,for Traveling out side the 🏡🏠?
Just to expand coverage, you can put them in the corners of the house to get more range outside as well as the inside.
I got less than 10 devices and only 1 wifi 6 device, i am going to do wireless backhaul and connect my gaming pc to the node. I suppose the XT8 is the way to go even though the xt4 is on sale right now. My apartment is 1300 sq ft. on two levels with a killer wall to the room where i need to hook up my pc.
XT8 is the safer choice because of wireless backhaul
Can you do a review about xt8 vs ct8? Thanks
I don’t have the ct8 nor the XT8 anymore. I have the ET8 which is great
@@landpet i see no ET8 here yet....anyways thanks
@@whip187 ua-cam.com/video/cqcJ6oP6Ky0/v-deo.html
I have 500mb/s up and down internet but the price difference between the two is crazy. Should I go XD4 or XT8? My router is an Asus AX86U
I recommend xd4 for wired backhaul and XT8 for wireless backhaul
@@landpet I don't have ethernet wires anywhere, and I saw the XD4 router has to be connected with wire, isnt it?
So I cant make use of any mesh wifi system?
You don't need to connect the XD4 with a wire, it will work via wireless as well, it just slows down.
@@landpet After reading for hours online, I understood better take tri-band Mesh otherwise I am going to have serve bottleneck because I will be using wireless backhaul.
Please try to help me and let me dig a little bit more ..
I currently use the AX86U as main router and it's running great. However the placement in my house is pretty horrible and the router is basically on the "Edge" of my house.
I want to add one more piece to my WiFi to create AiMesh network.
I thought about selling my AX86U (Losing some money obv) and going two XT8?
Or better stay with the AX86U and go with a single XT8? I know I can also buy the AX68U which is cheaper but for wireless backhaul I think there's going to be bottleneck with my 500mbps up down internet speed.
What do you think?
Have you tried the XT8? It seems like there are mixed reviews for it some negative and some positive. My area has almost no wifi networks so theres not gonna be interferences
Yes, that’s exactly it. For wireless backhaul, I recommend triband because it’s less or no slow down depending on your internet speeds whereas with dual band, there will most likely be a slowdown.
All the speed tests are limited by your internet connection, so it would be better to test by downloading a file from your router (connect an USB SSD for example). That way the test results become more meaningful.
I agree. All my tests from the Asus ET8 have been mainly local speed tests. So the last year and a half or so.
Can you do a comparison video of Deco X20 vs Asus XD4 please. Thanks
I'm probably going to skip the Deco X20. My next one is going to be the Deco X68. X20 and XD4 are similar in specs, can't go wrong either way. I may lean more towards the X20 because they advertise more range (X60 was phenomenal, still my favorite dual band mesh) and they have 2 ethernet ports on each.
can i just use one ASUS ZenWiFi AX XT8
Yes
I have bought this product but unfortunately I am deeply disappointed. The units keep disconnecting from the each other and in some cases they go back to set up mode. Speed is all over the place. I am not sure what is wrong since I did an extensive search before I buy them but I am now deeply disappointed
Possibly a defective unit? Can you replace it? If you lost confidence in Asus, the Eero Pro 6 and TP Link X68 are other good choices as well.
Sorry for the stupid question: honestly I never understood what means the number after “ax” (1800,3000,6000). A major value correspond to a faster internet connection or only a major speed in local network data transfer?? If I want a mesh system only for internet usage (with a gigabit connection), an ax1800 system is enough or it limits my speeds? Thank you!!
That's actually a great question. Almost want to make a video to explain it. I just may lol
Short answer:
The AX1800 will limit your speeds over wifi, if you want to get closer to your max speeds over wifi (which it still won't get you gigabit). Get the ASUS ET8 (ua-cam.com/video/cqcJ6oP6Ky0/v-deo.html)
Long Answer:
Wi-Fi AX is the Wi-Fi standard name, otherwise known as Wi-Fi 6.
The previous generation was known as Wi-Fi AC or Wi-Fi 5.
The newest is Wi-Fi 6E which is the ASUS ET8
So every router has a speed rating, AX1800 is an example of this.
-The AX portion tells the user that this is a Wi-Fi 6 router.
-The 1800 is a summation of either 2 numbers if it's a dual band router (like the XD4) or can be a summation of 3 numbers if it's a triband router (like the XT8). "Typically" 1800 indicates it's a dual band router because it's a low number for Wi-Fi 6. Tri-band routers typically have higher numbers when it comes to Wi-Fi 6.
-Breaking this down further, the 1800 (in the case of the ASUS XD4) is the fastest speed of both bands since it's a dual band. The XD4 supports 2.4GHz and 5GHz, each of these bands (or frequencies) support a theoretical maximum speed. Again specifically on the ASUS XD4, on Wi-Fi 6 (2.4GHz), it can support a wireless speed of 574 Mbps and on the 5GHz band, it can support a maximum speed of 1201 Mbps. When you add these two numbers and get them close to a nice clean round number, you get 1800. 574 + 1201 = 1775 or 1800 if we are rounding up.
Devices like your phone, tablets, laptops typically use the 5GHz band to connect to your mesh wifi, therefore they can take advantage of the faster speeds (a theoretical max of 1201Mbps). Whereas security cameras, smart switches, things of that nature typically connect on the 2.4GHz and are limited to a theoretical max of 574Mbps. In reality, over Wi-Fi, you almost never see speeds that close to the max, they're typically a lot less. So if you have fast internet, something like gigabit, then getting a router like the XD4, even though it can in theory support the full gigabit speeds over wifi, typically the speeds you get are a lot less. In addition, your device like your phone also has its own limit of the fastest speeds it can support, so even if the router can support faster speeds, it doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get full gigabit speeds over wifi.
As if that wasn't enough, there's more. If you get a dual band mesh wifi like the XD4 and you connect them via Wireless Backhaul. Well now, the XD4 devices need to connect to each other to create the network. In this case, there is no third band, a dedicated channel where they can talk to each other. So they are sharing the other band(s) with all the other wifi devices. Well this results in slowing down wifi devices even further because unlike ethernet, wifi devices actually share local bandwidth. The more wifi devices you connect, the more the local network itself slows down (including the internet speeds, cause that's shared as well). On top of that, some mesh wifi's have "recommended" limits for the number of wifi devices it can support. Getting a triband in this case, you have an extra band that's typically not shared and that doesn't slow down your wifi devices as much, again over wireless backhaul. Even in wired backhaul, the triband routers can use that third dedicated band to allow wifi devices to connect to it, to alleviate some burden on the other bands.
Getting gigabit speeds over ethernet is a lot easier cause there is no interference from anything, it's a digital cable that pretty much delivers amazing speeds.
Thank you!!! I will wait for your new video about this!! So, if I understood well, if I have a download speed (on internet) of 800/900mbps, a 1800 will be enough I think, right?
Can you create a mesh of the two systems?!
Yes because they both support AiMesh, granted I didn't try
@@landpet can you try it for me please . Will highly appreciate it, am planning to buy both systems and create a mesh of both systems but hesitant since I am not sure if the will work together
@@ijamaaal8542 buy it and try it, if it doesn’t work, return it.....
A mesh system between XT8 and XD4 is no problem (i have both in one mesh), but they must have the latest firmware. But a mixture between ethernet backhaul and wifi backhaul is only possible when one band on each is sacricifed.
Don't waste your time running Wifi as it is very slow and not consistent!! I run cat6a cable throughout my house. Have a Synology 8-bay NAS with 8 Seagate fast exnos drives running raid 6 array with intel dual 10Gbe ethernet in running link aggregation on both ports to my 10Gbe switch. All my pcs are also connected to 10Gbe network switch and they are running fast Samsung M.2 SSD along with intel dual 10Gbe ethernet cards. I get SUSTAINED transfer speeds of 1,200 MegaByte or 1.2GB per second!!! With that speed that can move a 4.7GB DVD movie through the network in under 5 seconds.
Thats great for wired devices although not very practical for laptops that get moved around the house, mobile devices, tablets and iot
ur wan speed is limited by ur Internet, thats why ur results are so close.
Yup, my internet speeds cap it but I do mention that. I now have faster internet and in the future I plan on setting up my own speed test server
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I didn't realize that, thanks for the info
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