VFL Comp Signature vs American Bass KING 👑
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- side by side of VFL Comp Signature 12 D2 vs American Bass KING 👑 12 D2.
VFL Comp Signature 12 D2 can be purchased here:
xplicitaudio.com/
American Bass KING 👑 here:
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Bro I remember when I was 18 my first subs was some boss audio 12s on a planet audio 3k amp which was not a 3k amp more like a 300 watt amp😅 and I thought I was the loudest on the block with my 50 dollar Walmart subs lol till this dude with American Bass XR's pulls up beside my car shaking my car 😅😂 that's when I fell in love with American Bass I'm now 26 working my way up I got 2 15 inch HD's dual 1ohm I love them bad boys
That top plate and t yoke is massive, there's where all that weight is coming from. The steel thickness on the sig is probably sufficient the king just has a ton of steel so there's no way it will over saturate that amount of ferrite. Plus the kings thickness in the middle may be because it has a dropped T yoke so it has more room for excursion. Each should deff take some serious power, my custom built 18 has a 620oz motor and it seriously yawns at my 5k amp. I don't even worry about hurting it as long as it doesn't get a clipped signal it's good for anything that amp can throw at it and any type of music because it can not physically bottom out the coil it has a 7" deep coil gap the 5 layer 12" spider and mega roll surround is the limiting factor and it only has a 3x3 8 layer coil so I know either of those monsters will take a lot more than mine.
I'm not sold on the king! Mega surround, more excursion, 600+ oz magnet, and blah blah blah doesn't mean squat. All these Chinese big power subs fail. The King is just another Skar DNR. Just look at the TS Parameters, and you'll see Bob is already lying about the parade when comparing online to the actual manual. US made and Russian made subs like DD, Fi, and Deaf Bounce, just to name a few, are standing strong. Because of quality and engineering over quantity. Not even a Y35 magnet on the king smh. No way I'd pay $1300 for a Chinese production sub. I get it though! You like what you and I'm all for that, but the king just like the other AB subs like the signature, xmaxx, godfather!, and the hd will prove unsuccessful
@me I agree 💯
@me who made your custom subwoofer
We're was ya subwoofer made I wanna buy one
@OTR420 mine was made by Fi with all custom upgrades. Kevlar cone, beefier spider, 7" dust cap, tensile leads and you name it. The omega is specifically designed for 6ths. Mine are just on steroids.
got my cmp sig vfl's for my b-day like 2 yrs ago (black basket) for 533 each (15's) & no tax. was off some random website from florida. i have a vid up if you'd like to check 'em out.
I also like AMERCAN BASE BECOUSE OF THE DIFF FLAVORS and colors
People don't know sarcasm when they Hear it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Does it have rainbow colors? 😂
Those woffers look like they will be around for a while ,they look high quality an very stout . Would probably built a very Strong triple baffle box double walled with large ass duel 6" round ports whoyah
Very nice!
Nice. You got one bro!👏
Bob decided to get on board with the push terminals. Is the King true carbon fiber? I know for the signature down the cone isn't.
i had 2 of the xfl 12 d2 way to much spl for me dropped down to the vxf skar 12's instead for sq quality
You should check out the American Bass Hawks if you want SQL. The Hawks are the XFL and XR combined. You get the best of both worlds. Tons of SPL with NO sacrifice to the SQ. Wish I still had my Hawk 1244s
I scored 2 mint new model xfl 12s for $200 and absolutely love em
Big Jeff Audio?
@@212Tan no got em from a local private sale,both for $200.
Was supposed to be $260 with a DD made 212 box but the box wouldn't fit in my civic so he sold me the subs and I stuck 1 in a single skar box just to see how one would sound on my kicker kxa 1600.1 and I'm really happy
When I get both in I'm gonna be absolutely satisfied.
Wanted my daily to do a 145 to 146 under 40hz and I think I finally got it.
Got a sodium ion Bank to hook up too and it'll be perfect for me.
I'm going back to get the box Friday tho when the weather is better and I can let it hang out of my trunk just to get it home.
Cause the box is over $200 alone on the DD website.
Keep it for when I get a SUV.
@@darknature79 good luck on that 145+ under 40Hz. I had (2) American Bass Hawks on a Taramps Smart 5 and it did 146s in a Skar prefab
@@darknature79 stay tuned for the new build! Let's just say 6 or 8!! 😱
Thx for sharing
You know much about the Godzilla line? Been trying to decide between an Xmaxxx Monster, Godfather, or Godzilla for a single sub build and there is not a lot of info on the Godzilla and I'm not sure its worth the extra money for my needs. I
Looks like the king has the Deaf Bonce Apocalypse motor. Super expensive sub too $1,399 is a lot for a 12. Hopefully it will pound on an 8k
Deaf Bounce 4512R is discontinued to my knowledge. They were also only 4500 RMS. And these have similar features but they truly are birds from a different breed. I do not recall DB using 100% Carbon Fiber cone, 4ga push terminals with triple sewn leads. I also don't like DB the brand because it's like Sundown... Just a bunch of followers IMO
I paid $1275 after shipping and taxes. But I agree price is too high. Could have bought 2 VFL Comp Signature 12 D2 for $1200
@@212Tan Dealer cost? Bob sent me the email that they have em, no pics and no price :d haha, figures
@@devastatoraudio idk what dealer cost is
@@212Tan You bought direct, or from other site?
Nice
Those are some very nice subs.
I want the godfather 8000 watt 15 I love to have two
One is probably motor structure specs and the other is just a magnet specs those extra answers that go from 600 to 750 probably make up the rest of the motor structure but that's just my opinion
No you're wrong bro. This makes worth listed improperly. I called Bob and if you go on website now they are updated. Motor structure is 613 oz
@@212Tan I always search for specs from multiple places and find them differing a lot. That's always disappointing.
Lets git'r in a box, & lets see what it can do!
Still financially recovering from this purchase 🤣 bought VFL Comp Signature 12 D2 and (2) AB XR 10 D2 all in same week. $1275 + $650 + $300 = $2,225 🤦🤦🤷. The VFL Comp Signature 12 D2 will make me a pair (already have 1). I want to switch Xmax 12 D2 out for them on VFL Comp 8k
They're made in the exact same Guangdong China factory as the Deaf Bonce subs hell the manuals are even the same and specs being off like the similarities are astounding other than the price being doubled 😂
Can you show a Chinese American Bass King or Deaf Bonce 45r I mean yeah the parts come from China but never seen one built in China
Wow, that king 12" has an Fs of 47? I guess it is stiff. I imagine that will come down quite a bit over time
Any updates on the sound comparison to the Comp Signatures?
How much does it weigh?
112lbs
Could you possibly provide me with a guide to help me with my install of my subwoofera through output converter.i have everything g hokk3d up but no sound what may be my problem
WHERE DO YOU GET THE KING VERSIONS?
Call Bob or look at the links in description. I forget where. I believe All the links are posted in the videos so look at the comments also
@@212Tan ok thanks
AB has issues with reporting ts specs and accurate motor weights. The Godfather 12" is listed as having a 400oz motor and a 450oz motor on the same page. Its easy stuff and there really is no excuse for their inaccuracies and not knowing the spec of their own subs. Should have to get DATS to have an idea what the sub is about. I do like the brand but its slowing looking more like scuzzy business practices and less like incompetent marketing
Have you had the King metered? How much wattage can that beast take?
How is it sounding
I see you're running the xmax 12s right now. Which ones do u like more the vfl comp signature or xmax for lows and sound quality
VFL Comp Signature all day overall
That KING and the new DB drive G7 are both carbon copies of the Deaf Bonce apocalypse DB4515/DB3515'S the 35 having a 3.5in coil and 45 having the 4.5in coil also their half the price and have been out for a couple of years already! My 3515's weigh in at 90lbs each the Japanese 3.5in coils can take 25k watts all day long IFFF you have clean power! Love to see ya try that with the American bass or DB Drive lol-ol-ol
I've clamped 16 000 out of this one so far already. And as far as deaf bonce goes, good luck finding 12s (4512r) in stock. They're never in stock. Trust me, I've looked for 4512r never instock
The 4515r is also only rated 4500 RMS and King is 6500 RMS. And they are $50 price difference FYI
@@212Tan I honestly don't think they make 4512. I've never seen them. And not on db website or d4s either. I think the biggest 12's are 3512
@@PeterFeltersnatch852 yeah you should do some more research bro cuz you're wrong about 3 years ago they had them everywhere
@@PeterFeltersnatch852 If you know anything about death bounce, you will know that the first two numbers in series are the size of the coil and the second two numbers are the size of the sub. So a 4512R is a 4.5 inch coil on 12-in surround. 3512r is 3.5 inch coil. HUGE DIFFERENCE
nice walmart sheets and blanket
Thanks for noticing and the views. I stay warm and cozy 🤷💯
Oh, and for the record, that's an Allswell mattress aka Walmart bed 👀
I just bought a vfl comp signature 12 d2. By any chance do u know how many cubic feet and tuning the box needs to be for this sub. I'm surprised american bass dosnt have box specs
2.5-3.3 CUFT Net tuned to 30-36hz. 1 inch thick wood minimum or use double layers. As far as tuning goes, it is more or less personal preference. I like 28-32hz. The sub will do fine 30-40hz tuning but will get loudest around 30-36hz depending on your cabin gain
Watch my King Build update video. That box is basically what you would want/need
the ratings are so different because they don't base it on anything. I can't believe they are still using max specs even though everyone knows they are a lie. Like you said it has more to do with the warranty anyway. They just wanna be able to say whatever they can so they don't have to replace your subwoofer if you blow it based on those ridiculous ratings...
Bigzbe
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Are you saying that they give a high rating max so they can not warranty you if you go that high or below? Sorry you lost me but I'm not the brightest bulb or anything.
@@bgriffis420 man it’s probably not you sometimes I clearly know what I want to say then jumble it up when it comes out. I just mean that they lie about the limits of what they are able to handle so they have tons of reasons not to help when they break.
Nice! A bit overpriced though bro! Want to see if it can handle 6500 rms....what amp you plan to push?
Wanted to do American Bass GF7D but I don't know if I'll be able to get 1. I have Slaps Audio Shock 8k.1 currently that I plan to install. It is a Full bridge 8K "Brazilian" style amp. It is similar to Sundown SFB, Deaf Bounce AAB, Black Brick, Audio Ace, ect... I got it for a good deal so it was hard to pass up.
I currently own godfather wanna know of it's a true upgrade and was it $1349
VFL Comp Signature is a "true" upgrade lol
@@212Tan the king ain't it lmk I'm trying to buy one now
@@kidsavage86 not really too sure what you're implying, but you're going to need a 7 to 10,000 watt for each king that you buy. They are not even comparable to godfather's. Bro. Godfathers are babies compared to these
@@kidsavage86 $1300 per king subwoofer is going rate. If you can get them cheaper, cool 😎
@@212Tan oh my bad down for sound is charging 1349 pur subwoofer who u go through to get that price
I read the sig has 10 gauge leads am I wrong?
Ya it's 10 gauge... My bad I said 8ga 🤷🙄
If you compared 8ga vs 10ga we are talking about a 0.7mm difference. To put that into perspective, that is how thick the lead is on a mechanical pencil 😂
I just got 4 of the vfl comps signature series dear lawrd these MFS are heavy as f
I like amercan bass subs becouse they continue to swich up ther subs OFTEN!!
Where country are they manufactured?
My guess is China like all other subs and equipment.... Only very few select subwoofers and amplifiers are made in USA today 🤷😁 that is for all brands. Sundown and DD only offer certain subs that are USA made. DC audio is probably most USA brand to date
@@212Tan right on! Thanks for the info
@@manny4486 there are a few other brands that are USA made and built to order as well. Like FI Audio and NEP Audio. But NEP audio currently seized operation in March so we are still waiting to see what happens
How do you not know what a t yok is Or the top washer ,, Don't compare any of the specs that actually count, And then say The subwoofer is worth the money,, Go over to PSI Audio D C Or Sun Down Compare the specs, , Compare the price And then Realize How bad you got screwed
I would not touch a Sundown or PSI sub. If I do American Build I will be using FI Audio sub and US Acoustics amps. I like DC Audio but everyone has DC it seems. NEP Audio went down in March, they were originally my first choice over FI Audio. I like how they weren't as popular and they had tons of color options which was cool
Nothing wrong with Sundown just like being different. As for PSI the owner was a dick to me so, hard pass 🤷😂💯
The xmax is bigger then both thoe i own the 15”
-Xmax 12 is 3.5 inch coil and 450oz motor
-Xmax 15 is 4 inch coil and 450oz motor (Xmax is only American Bass sub that uses 2 different coils for 12 & 15)
-Godfather 12 is 4 inch coil and 400oz motor
-VFL Comp Signature 12 is 4 inch coil and 505oz motor
-AB King 12 is 4.5 inch coil and 613oz motor
King is by far superior to Xmax... Xmax weighs 65lbs. King weighs 112lbs 😂💯
I also own Xmax, VFL Comp Signature, and the King.... Check out my other videos...
On a HD 15 BUDGET OVER HER
HD was the first American Bass sub I owned. Turned me into a fan 4 life lol
@212 Tan I'm running 415 hawks now and they poun ding and the red baskets is nice
@@djkeys415s I had 2 Hawk 1244s on a Taramps Smart 5 in a Skar prefab box previously. I did 145s on music just messing around. They are good looking subs that sound amazing, got low AF, and took 2500 RMS each
Lol have fun paying 1300$ for a sub that I'll be buying from you in a year for 200$
You won't be buying mine for $200 🤷
I would not sell this sub bro. I have a pair of X-Maxxes, a pair of VFL comp sigs, and I will probably end up with the pair of kings too 🤷 only time I sell my equipment is if someone is willing to pay the price so I can upgrade 💯
Bro, why are you huffin n puffin n talking so slow? You need to take some of your dollars n hit the gym, hommie. Health is wealth.
It's a 112lbs sub and I got asthma. So fuck you too 🤣