I am sticking with my laserdisc copy, still looks ands sounds amazing on my high end Sony tube TV. Best part of laserdisc, no clunky menus, no ads of any kind, no compression of any kind. Just press play and movie starts, just how movies should be
2:16 True Lies is released by 20th Century Fox (USA/Canada, France and Italy) and Universal Pictures (through United International Pictures, international).
Just finished watching True Lies on 4K To be completely honest with you I was so focused on the movie that I didn’t see anything wrong with the transfer, I thought it looked amazing! Better then it ever looked!!
I just watched the abyss and Thelma & Louise yesterday. Thelma & Louise was grainy and beautiful. The abyss, not a whole lot of grain, yet it's still beautiful. I get so into the movie I could care less.
Both of those 4k discs look great. That car in the sunlight and the views of the mountains in the background of Thelma and Louise look amazing. The Abyss looked awesome too. I know a lot of people hate things that change but James Cameron is using a technique that removes grain without losing detail. I prefer a little bit of grain but still think The Abyss and Aliens look excellent but not perfect. I haven't seen True Lies all the way through yet but in the first 5 min I watched it looked good.
Case by case basis, but if there is a digital version streaming on a platform you already have on, I’d say check out the new transfer through one of those, or through UA-cam comparisons and then make the determination which version you want
I agreed with your opinion on the transfer. I was so into the movie I didn’t have 8 hours to freeze every scene and analyze it with a microscope so I can cry to strangers on UA-cam.. 😂 But jokes aside, it’s better than anything out there. Appreciate it and help keep physical media alive! Great video brother..
Everyone has a different threshold. Your view is valid; I’m glad you’re not trying to guilt people who are opposed to this on principle. DNR was always an issue for me, but AI image enhancement is way too far for me to accept. Even if this is acceptable on its own, allowing this opens up the floodgates
Just because most people won't go frame by frame to check the details, doesn't automatically mean that people should be denied having a digital presentation that is much closer to the original experience. It was they who put the money down to watch his films. After all, when people have watched a movie on 35mm in the original release, or VHS, DVD, Blu Ray & 4K, what is everybody's favourite way to see a film they like? On Film! A original film print! So altering a movie's presentation is not going to make people enjoy the movie more. Especially when Digital is already gonna have a different image due to the technology being so different to Photochemical. Even the older editions of True Lies already have DNR in them. There's even old Laserdisc magazines from the 90s where Cameron talked about how the DNR process works, so even at that time he was already doing it! So there is no real great edition of True Lies. But there is one thing that can't be denied: The old DVD is far more consistently watchable, warts and all.
The laser disc edition is awesome, I never had a problem with it. Friend of mine just got his 4K copy of True Lies and the transfer is excellent. Each to their own I guess.....
No offense taken at all (coming from a videophile). I’m stuck with the dvd, which admittedly hasn’t aged well at all. Always great to hear your thoughts - keep em comin’!
Took a look on Disney + and enjoyed it. Will have to throw on the DVD and watch a few scenes to compare it. Nice review man. Bill Paxton stole the film.
For me personally, I’ve realized (generally speaking) that I most enjoy watching movies on the format of a FILMS time. I wouldn’t be opposed to buying the new 4k just I have it. But I would HAVE TO include the dvd version. I wouldn’t even by an old vhs version if I came across it.
Detail isn't all about numbers. If you're wiping away so much detail that everybody looks mannikins, number's don't mean crap. Especially when the quality of film isn't about mandated resolution and numbers, it's about good quality and that's it.
Yes that’s correct. There’s more detail on the Blu-ray too. You must not know what detail means. You’re thinking of sharpeness. You can sharpen a white blank screen and upscale it to 8K and you’ll never see any detail.
I get what you’re saying, but I have trouble understanding why Cameron and others aren’t trying to archive their films to match what audiences experienced when seeing a brand new film print on opening night at a premiere quality movie theater. If they want to tinker with it, so be it, but at least preserve the movie in its original state for posterity’s sake.
I wish it looked like that but the truth is Cameron never liked the way a brand new film print on opening night looked like because it was already a degradation of the original image and not an ”perfect” image which is to him an image with no grain, he was forced to because that was the technology and the only way to make and show movies at the time but if he made True Lies today it would undoubtedly be digital with no grain so he’s trying to make it look like that
@@jacobmacdonagh4070 So basically everybody looking like mannikins is his idea of a 'perfect image'. Man, Cameron saying that he never liked the look of a brand new print is rubbish. Every director who made a film back in the day has a personal print of their own films at least! A little word of advice: Never listen to rich Hollywood or corporate hacks like him.
I think expectations were way too high for this, even if they had left in all the thick grain with no DNR/A.I. tinkering the color grading would still be different and people would still complain about it either way. This is an advanced modern format, none of these old movies are going to look 100% the same as they did in theaters and VHS, it's just not going to happen. People need to be more realistic about this 4K thing, even the releases where it looks very accurate to the original sources will still have some major differences, compare them side by side to your older releases and you'll see what I'm talking about.
I completely agree. I watched mine the other day and loved it. Sure it could have been better. But I am not going to complain about it. I recommend it.
If the 'official' releases can't compete with the D-Theatre rip, then they've got no business having my money. This isn't a low budget, independent movie. It's a Studio backed Schwarzenegger blockbuster. There are no excuses for messing up a film of this magnitude considering the technology we have at our fingertips. Anyone defending or even buying this shit, is condoning big studios putting out crap discs, and signifies the end of physical media. The whole point of physical media is that it is better than streaming. How can so many boutique labels like Arrow, Capelight, Vinegar Syndrome etc. give us the best versions of a movie yet studios serve us up this huge slice of shit flan?
There's an official bluray Spanish release of True Lies. It also includes English audio. Anyways the usage of DNR by James Cameron is just him been very lazy and careless. Is kind of an insult to the fans to be honest. Without us the fans this people wouldn't have careers and millions of $$$ in the bank. That's a fact!
"It looks better than a dvd" and "I am just happy to have it" are dangerous routes to go down. Like no way it looks better than a DVD....like thats not praise worthy....
The real underlying problem with the movie is not the 4k transfer, laserdisc or DVD or VHS it’s the fact that it has a stupid plot and makes no sense !! lol 😂. Of course that’s not your fault!
You had a problem with the T2 color grading? The color grading change on True Lies is the BIGGEST sin for me and what makes it unwatchable. All the skin tones are dead, everything looks washed out. It doesn’t fit the vibe AT ALL. There’s way more “California” vibes in this film. It’s not a spy thriller, it’s an action comedy lol. The teal grade actually fits better with T2.
I am not interested in ' True Lies' on 4K bluray because I have no interest of replacing my regular bluray players in my house. I am , however, interested in the regular bluray copy of the movie. I have only 1 4K UHD TV in my house and it's a Samsung that does an excellent job upscaling full HD source to near UHD. They don't sell it separately so I have no choice to buy the set.
@@Ichabod_Jericho My son already has a Nintendo Switch with Super Mario and Zelda. I am not buying a video game console just to watch movies. Also, most 4K bluray disc of movies are way more expensive than a regular bluray disc of the same movie. I am really satisfied with how regular bluray movies look on my Samsung 4k TV. The upgrade to 4k is no necessary for me.
@@misterlexx2721 to each their own🤷♂️ a switch won’t ever tell the stories a PS5 does. I’d argue you get even more entertainment per dollar spent with video games, these days they average 40-80 hours for a play through. The kind of stories that can’t be told in a movie format. Might help you enjoy more bang for your buck, Check out God of War + GoW Ragnarok, or Ghost of Tsushima. You’d be shocked with how they can tell a story these days, only thing is boomers can’t separate the idea that it’s not Mario or Donkey Kong.
@@Ichabod_Jericho I grew up on video games from Nintendo and Sega. I play ACTUAL video games with my kids not INTERACTIVE HOLLYWOOD MOVIES. I prefer to just watch the ACTUAL Hollywood movies.
12:20 If the old DVD and Laserdisc has more detail as you admitted, then why is the 4K the 'best way' to watch the film then in this 'day and age'? Repurposing a pre 21st century movie to look sterile and devoid of detail like today's movies is not something that anyone asked for. It's a bit hilarious that the same filmmaker who became famous with a movie about the dangers of AI uses AI to ruin his own movies. How corporate & ironic 😉😉
Transfer is good. The Bluray disc looks a bit better than the 4K disc in my opinion. DNR is always a hot topic, but thats just people who want to complain about every damn minor issue with any release that comes out. It's not as distracting as some other releases who used DNR heavily. I'm happy to have it in the collection now.
An opinion is like an anus . Everybody has one. I am a 43 year old man. I grew up as a kid in the 80s and 90s. Schwarzenegger is an action movie hero. His movies are pure masculine entertainment. I am a straight man so testosterone driven movies are what I love! He never claimed to be a dramatic kind of actor running down Oscars. His movies in his hey day were BLOCKBUSTER BOX OFFICE HITS. His movies have great repeat watching abilities unlike some boring drama that got some movie award for best picture. Some of those boring award winning movies never even did well in the theaters. I can't count how many times I watch ' Commando', Predator , T 1 and T2 etc.
I have to disagree that Arnold Scwarzenegger isn't in good movies. He's starred in great movies. Action movies like Terminator 1 and 2, Predator and comedy/action like Kindergarten Cop are well acted, excellent movies. Most of his movies are fun to watch, which in my opinion, makes them good enough to own.
I am sticking with my laserdisc copy, still looks ands sounds amazing on my high end Sony tube TV. Best part of laserdisc, no clunky menus, no ads of any kind, no compression of any kind. Just press play and movie starts, just how movies should be
2:16
True Lies is released by 20th Century Fox (USA/Canada, France and Italy) and Universal Pictures (through United International Pictures, international).
Agreed, I enjoyed it. Not as much as Aliens, but still steller
Just finished watching True Lies on 4K To be completely honest with you I was so focused on the movie that I didn’t see anything wrong with the transfer, I thought it looked amazing! Better then it ever looked!!
I just watched the abyss and Thelma & Louise yesterday. Thelma & Louise was grainy and beautiful. The abyss, not a whole lot of grain, yet it's still beautiful. I get so into the movie I could care less.
Both of those 4k discs look great. That car in the sunlight and the views of the mountains in the background of Thelma and Louise look amazing. The Abyss looked awesome too. I know a lot of people hate things that change but James Cameron is using a technique that removes grain without losing detail. I prefer a little bit of grain but still think The Abyss and Aliens look excellent but not perfect. I haven't seen True Lies all the way through yet but in the first 5 min I watched it looked good.
Should you buy bluray and let your system upscale the image or should you pay extra for an upscaled 4K disk with inferior quality?
Case by case basis, but if there is a digital version streaming on a platform you already have on, I’d say check out the new transfer through one of those, or through UA-cam comparisons and then make the determination which version you want
I agreed with your opinion on the transfer. I was so into the movie I didn’t have 8 hours to freeze every scene and analyze it with a microscope so I can cry to strangers on UA-cam.. 😂 But jokes aside, it’s better than anything out there. Appreciate it and help keep physical media alive! Great video brother..
Everyone has a different threshold. Your view is valid; I’m glad you’re not trying to guilt people who are opposed to this on principle. DNR was always an issue for me, but AI image enhancement is way too far for me to accept. Even if this is acceptable on its own, allowing this opens up the floodgates
Just because most people won't go frame by frame to check the details, doesn't automatically mean that people should be denied having a digital presentation that is much closer to the original experience. It was they who put the money down to watch his films. After all, when people have watched a movie on 35mm in the original release, or VHS, DVD, Blu Ray & 4K, what is everybody's favourite way to see a film they like? On Film! A original film print! So altering a movie's presentation is not going to make people enjoy the movie more. Especially when Digital is already gonna have a different image due to the technology being so different to Photochemical.
Even the older editions of True Lies already have DNR in them. There's even old Laserdisc magazines from the 90s where Cameron talked about how the DNR process works, so even at that time he was already doing it! So there is no real great edition of True Lies. But there is one thing that can't be denied: The old DVD is far more consistently watchable, warts and all.
The laser disc edition is awesome, I never had a problem with it. Friend of mine just got his 4K copy of True Lies and the transfer is excellent. Each to their own I guess.....
No offense taken at all (coming from a videophile). I’m stuck with the dvd, which admittedly hasn’t aged well at all. Always great to hear your thoughts - keep em comin’!
DVD still offers advantages over the 4K as mentioned, so either version in my view is decent.
Took a look on Disney + and enjoyed it. Will have to throw on the DVD and watch a few scenes to compare it. Nice review man. Bill Paxton stole the film.
@stonesfan285 It's available in Australia, should be worldwide I'd imagine?
For me personally, I’ve realized (generally speaking) that I most enjoy watching movies on the format of a FILMS time. I wouldn’t be opposed to buying the new 4k just I have it. But I would HAVE TO include the dvd version. I wouldn’t even by an old vhs version if I came across it.
I got my copy a week ago love it
Hey Jamie , love your videos mate , may I request you increase the volume on your mic? the volume is super low.
More detail with DVD/Laserdisc? You lost me there, sorry.
Detail isn't all about numbers. If you're wiping away so much detail that everybody looks mannikins, number's don't mean crap. Especially when the quality of film isn't about mandated resolution and numbers, it's about good quality and that's it.
Yes that’s correct. There’s more detail on the Blu-ray too. You must not know what detail means. You’re thinking of sharpeness. You can sharpen a white blank screen and upscale it to 8K and you’ll never see any detail.
I get what you’re saying, but I have trouble understanding why Cameron and others aren’t trying to archive their films to match what audiences experienced when seeing a brand new film print on opening night at a premiere quality movie theater. If they want to tinker with it, so be it, but at least preserve the movie in its original state for posterity’s sake.
I wish it looked like that but the truth is Cameron never liked the way a brand new film print on opening night looked like because it was already a degradation of the original image and not an ”perfect” image which is to him an image with no grain, he was forced to because that was the technology and the only way to make and show movies at the time but if he made True Lies today it would undoubtedly be digital with no grain so he’s trying to make it look like that
@@jacobmacdonagh4070 So basically everybody looking like mannikins is his idea of a 'perfect image'. Man, Cameron saying that he never liked the look of a brand new print is rubbish. Every director who made a film back in the day has a personal print of their own films at least! A little word of advice: Never listen to rich Hollywood or corporate hacks like him.
I think expectations were way too high for this, even if they had left in all the thick grain with no DNR/A.I. tinkering the color grading would still be different and people would still complain about it either way. This is an advanced modern format, none of these old movies are going to look 100% the same as they did in theaters and VHS, it's just not going to happen. People need to be more realistic about this 4K thing, even the releases where it looks very accurate to the original sources will still have some major differences, compare them side by side to your older releases and you'll see what I'm talking about.
I completely agree. I watched mine the other day and loved it. Sure it could have been better. But I am not going to complain about it. I recommend it.
It all depends on the tranfer
Great review. I watched it last night & really enjoyed it. I think it looks great. This to me is the only way to watch it from now on.
If the 'official' releases can't compete with the D-Theatre rip, then they've got no business having my money. This isn't a low budget, independent movie. It's a Studio backed Schwarzenegger blockbuster. There are no excuses for messing up a film of this magnitude considering the technology we have at our fingertips.
Anyone defending or even buying this shit, is condoning big studios putting out crap discs, and signifies the end of physical media. The whole point of physical media is that it is better than streaming. How can so many boutique labels like Arrow, Capelight, Vinegar Syndrome etc. give us the best versions of a movie yet studios serve us up this huge slice of shit flan?
Also there is a Latin version of "True Lies" (BRD)
The Spain blu-ray is the best version.
There's an official bluray Spanish release of True Lies. It also includes English audio.
Anyways the usage of DNR by James Cameron is just him been very lazy and careless. Is kind of an insult to the fans to be honest. Without us the fans this people wouldn't have careers and millions of $$$ in the bank. That's a fact!
Sounded like it might be interesting, but sound was way too low... so...
"It looks better than a dvd" and "I am just happy to have it" are dangerous routes to go down. Like no way it looks better than a DVD....like thats not praise worthy....
you covered it well
I get mine on Friday
New subscriber. Keep up the uploads
i liked it, better looking than T2
You should make a video on DNR.
I may at some point 😊
The real underlying problem with the movie is not the 4k transfer, laserdisc or DVD or VHS it’s the fact that it has a stupid plot and makes no sense !! lol 😂. Of course that’s not your fault!
I appreciate you
You had a problem with the T2 color grading? The color grading change on True Lies is the BIGGEST sin for me and what makes it unwatchable. All the skin tones are dead, everything looks washed out. It doesn’t fit the vibe AT ALL. There’s way more “California” vibes in this film. It’s not a spy thriller, it’s an action comedy lol. The teal grade actually fits better with T2.
in D-Theater is better
I am not interested in ' True Lies' on 4K bluray because I have no interest of replacing my regular bluray players in my house. I am , however, interested in the regular bluray copy of the movie. I have only 1 4K UHD TV in my house and it's a Samsung that does an excellent job upscaling full HD source to near UHD. They don't sell it separately so I have no choice to buy the set.
Get a PS5?
@@Ichabod_Jericho My son already has a Nintendo Switch with Super Mario and Zelda. I am not buying a video game console just to watch movies. Also, most 4K bluray disc of movies are way more expensive than a regular bluray disc of the same movie. I am really satisfied with how regular bluray movies look on my Samsung 4k TV. The upgrade to 4k is no necessary for me.
@@misterlexx2721 to each their own🤷♂️ a switch won’t ever tell the stories a PS5 does. I’d argue you get even more entertainment per dollar spent with video games, these days they average 40-80 hours for a play through. The kind of stories that can’t be told in a movie format. Might help you enjoy more bang for your buck, Check out God of War + GoW Ragnarok, or Ghost of Tsushima. You’d be shocked with how they can tell a story these days, only thing is boomers can’t separate the idea that it’s not Mario or Donkey Kong.
@@Ichabod_Jericho I grew up on video games from Nintendo and Sega. I play ACTUAL video games with my kids not INTERACTIVE HOLLYWOOD MOVIES. I prefer to just watch the ACTUAL Hollywood movies.
@@misterlexx2721 thanks for proving my point 😭 to each their own. Boomers gone boom
12:20 If the old DVD and Laserdisc has more detail as you admitted, then why is the 4K the 'best way' to watch the film then in this 'day and age'? Repurposing a pre 21st century movie to look sterile and devoid of detail like today's movies is not something that anyone asked for. It's a bit hilarious that the same filmmaker who became famous with a movie about the dangers of AI uses AI to ruin his own movies. How corporate & ironic 😉😉
Transfer is good. The Bluray disc looks a bit better than the 4K disc in my opinion. DNR is always a hot topic, but thats just people who want to complain about every damn minor issue with any release that comes out. It's not as distracting as some other releases who used DNR heavily. I'm happy to have it in the collection now.
very disappointing
i only buy good movies on blu ray or 4k ,its a ok movie but its not great acting .Schwarzenegger movies are not something i would own.
An opinion is like an anus . Everybody has one. I am a 43 year old man. I grew up as a kid in the 80s and 90s. Schwarzenegger is an action movie hero. His movies are pure masculine entertainment. I am a straight man so testosterone driven movies are what I love! He never claimed to be a dramatic kind of actor running down Oscars. His movies in his hey day were BLOCKBUSTER BOX OFFICE HITS. His movies have great repeat watching abilities unlike some boring drama that got some movie award for best picture. Some of those boring award winning movies never even did well in the theaters. I can't count how many times I watch ' Commando', Predator , T 1 and T2 etc.
Arnold movies are not about amazing acting or stories. They are popcorn action movies that you can watch over and over again.
@@shazmanbound1496 I'll drink a beer to that. Better yet smoke a cigar to that!😆😆😆😆
I have to disagree that Arnold Scwarzenegger isn't in good movies. He's starred in great movies. Action movies like Terminator 1 and 2, Predator and comedy/action like Kindergarten Cop are well acted, excellent movies. Most of his movies are fun to watch, which in my opinion, makes them good enough to own.