Just bought one exactly like this one yesterday and completely in love already! Out of the 4 jeeps I've owned this is by far the best one. Love that diesel sound!
great video and review - this trim seems to be the sweet spot for those of us not needing lockers but appreciate the off road look for occasionally cruising a beach or backroad. Love to see a 10k update down the road. MPG, DEF consumption, ect
Nice review! I purchased my Diesel Willys December 31st this year and only have logged about 600 miles to date. Over all I agree with you on most points. So far I am averaging about 25 MPG combined and 27 on the Highway which is outstanding for a Jeep with 32 Mud Terrain tires!! Secondly, the torque just makes that a fun vehicle to drive and I look forward to moderate off road challenges this summer. I could not be happier with this combo!!
in pa its still the difference in paying 3.20 a gallon for gas or 4.29 for diesel and thats 10/09/21 prices. So its only fair to say the Dollar less and getting 22 or 23 perhaps with the 2.0 turbo or even getting 19 or so with the 3.6 may be a similiar option. so mpg although good, its still really crappy prices in pa for diesel always has been a dollar or more higher that gas for whatever reason
One of the best independent reviews I’ve watched, and I totally agree with why you chose the willys. I’ve been eyeing almost the exact same Jeep at a dealer near me, a willys unlimited in sarge green with the 3.0. Awesome video.
@@ApexReviewsOfficial I test drove it over the weekend. It certainly didn’t help the “I really can’t afford this” mindset, but I’m applying to a couple new jobs in the future that will actually give me full time so I’m keeping my fingers crossed!
Good review. I added bumpers and a winch, we take our Willys Diesel off road towing a XVenture XV3 Trailer. Having the torque gives me lots of confidence off-road. I learned about the fuel discriminator when trying to fill from my Gerry can. Came up with a work around. I would like to fill up where the big trucks do.
We're waiting ony wife's JL Rubicon 4XE to arrive. Also, I'm ordering myself a Willys in Sarge green with the diesel, tow package, cold weather stuff and upgraded sound system.
You are going to love it Fred! The optional packages you mentioned are well worth it. You and your wife will love your new JLs! Congratulations! Thank you for watching.
Also: Ecodiesels get cast iron knuckles, steel steering box and reinforced frame. Fun fact! Also Gladiator eco’s share the same frame as the Mojave. Lots of owners including myself feel that the steering is actually tighter than the 3.6 counterparts.
Nice review. Looks like Jeep took away the 3L Diesel option for the regular Willys for 2022. You can still configure the diesel on the Willys Sport on the Jeep web site. Does anyone know more about this?
That’s incredible! Averaging ~50k miles per year and never having even a small issue is a great example of what these engines can do. If you don’t mind me asking, do you use any fuel additives, and did you have the fuel pump recall completed?
Awesome review, actually deciding between the gas or diesel Wlllys...does your diesel come with Auto Start/Stop function, or is that just for the gas version?
Rodel, the Diesel does have Auto Start Stop as well. I made a habit of pressing it every time I got in, but there are quite a few aftermarket options to keep it disabled permanently. The most common would be the Tazer by ZAutomotive. Side note, I have actually traded in the JL for a JT (Gladiator) Mojave as I wanted a truck bed for transporting my dirt bike. The Mojave does not have the diesel as an option so I am getting by with the 3.6L. All told, it does fine for Michigan, but I truly miss the Diesel engine. The torque the engine offers, as well as the peace of mind with the 8HP75 transmission are two key items I had to part with in choosing that particular trim. Although it’s not perfect, if Stellantis began to offer the trim with the alternative engine, I would put an order in the next day. Best of luck in your search!
@@ApexReviewsOfficial Thank you for taking time to answer my question, just saw that this was an older thread. I actually just sold my 2018 Tacoma TRD sport 4x4, and was really interested in the Willys package without going crazy with the Rubicon. Great content, and definitely subbed!
@@ApexReviewsOfficial I personally like the 3.6l esp now. its tried and true now in the jeep. theyve been running it forever, 2012 hurt its rep for sure, but they stuck with it and did what they should have and made it right. It has some get up and go I always thought. I have a jkr so its small but still its a good engine. I would never ever trust an italian 2 liter engine with a turbo in a jeep thats for damn sure,, the only way would be if leased or only drove em for the warranty period and traded em in.
Hey Scott, thank you for watching. The 4Runner definitely has a much smoother ride than a stock JL. The diesel in particular also has stiffer springs up front to account for the weight and you can tell it's a bit more "rigid" than the gasoline variants. If we were comparing NVH levels, the 4Runner would also take the cake. As you can imagine the rake of the windshield and hardtop result in pretty good levels of wind noise on the expressway. Overall the 4Runner is the better road trip vehicle without a question, but the Wrangler just has a "character" about it on the road that you'll learn to love. If we were comparing the balance of the powertrain, the Wrangler definitely has the better pairing (engine/trans), but then one could counter the long term reliability that the 1GR-FE/5 Speed offers. It's really a back and forth on both sides, and each has great points. There were many pros and cons to each side, but I ultimately wanted to experience owning a diesel and some newer tech than I had in my 4Runner. Mine was a 2018 as well so we had the "OG" head units and I wasn't a fan of the 2020+ replacements as the resolutions appeared to take a hit. It's a nit pick, but the minor update made it difficult to justify trading into a newer 4Runner. I'd try finding a diesel JL locally and taking it on a good test drive (30-40 miles) to get a feel for it. It will feel way different than your 5th Gen, but you'll know if it's for you. Also, I see you're a subscriber, so you're probably aware of the BP-51s that were on my 4Runner. I had these a majority of the time I owned it and they completely corrected the nose dive the stock T4R has, and also eliminated most of the body roll (paired with KO2's that is). My observations on stiffness and overall mannerisms is based on my memory with that suspension set-up. Pardon the lengthy reply. I wanted to be thorough in my experience so you have good feedback from an owner of both.
I slid my TJ down an embankment upside down once. I hit a stump rear first and it flipped me back on all 4 wheels. I put the Jeep in 4X low and drove up and out to the road. The state trooper could not believe that I could drive up and out of that deep mess.🤩🤣
Creotag, great question. This is a standard Willy's, not a Willy's Sport. I took a look at the online configurator as well and see the same. It appears Stellantis may be holding this option back to push folks to higher level trims. I could surely see where someone would take this path as a more affordable, middle ground to the Rubicon. I would recommend talking to your dealer to see if they see it as an option when they go to place an order. Hopefully it's just a bug in the online configuration tool.
Tough choice between diesel and gas powertrains in the Jeep. Costs $4K more for the EcoDiesel, and diesel fuel in this area is $1 more per gallon than gasoline. Pretty much negates the fuel economy advantage of the diesel. I'm probably going to go with either the 3.6L or 2.0L gas.
Yes I think you are right, the total average fuel cost would be about the same. For towing or large tires the diesel is going to perform way better. I would think that the diesel engine would last longer and the resale value would be better. I think it depends on your prefered driving style. If you like speed and zipping around go gas. If your a smooth and steady cruiser go diesel. If you get a diesel and your constantly accelerating hard or or pulling hard up hill(which is fun) you will wear down the tread on your rear tires in a hurry.
I actually stumbled on this one while browsing a local dealer's inventory online. It was in transit at the time and was built almost exactly the way we would option it. I contacted a friend of ours at the dealer and he called us as soon as it arrived. I've been reading a few forum threads (as I'm sure you are as well :D) and most folks are seeing theirs arrive ~6 weeks after their order. Congratulations on the purchase, I know you're going to love it. I'm just shy of 8,000 miles and it's running like a clock. Truth be told, I'd have a hard time returning to a gasoline vehicle after enjoying the low end torque and general ease at which the Wrangler gets around with this powertrain.
@@ApexReviewsOfficial oh I'm definitely reading them daily on jlwranglerforums🤣 It would seem as some get it within 4 weeks, while some takes months. Accessories tend to be a hold up it would seem but we didn't add any of those, just a few packages. I figure 8 weeks is a good estimate. We recived our VIN a few days ago and according to Jeepchat it's in scheduling right now but no est. ship date yet. Like a little kid waiting for Christmas over here 🤣🤣
I saw about 17-18 MPG while towing a 3,000 lb horse trailer. If I were towing a travel trailer of equal weight, but more with a larger surface area creating wind resistance I would expect a MPG drop of 1-2.
18.3 Gallons. They reduced the capacity from 21.5 in the gasoline JLUs to make space for the DEF tank. Even with the reduced capacity, you’ll be looking at 450+ miles of range. 👍
Just bought one exactly like this one yesterday and completely in love already! Out of the 4 jeeps I've owned this is by far the best one. Love that diesel sound!
LOVED this video. I looked at a 2021 JEEP Willys eco-diesel today. That is a sweet ride. :)
great video and review - this trim seems to be the sweet spot for those of us not needing lockers but appreciate the off road look for occasionally cruising a beach or backroad. Love to see a 10k update down the road. MPG, DEF consumption, ect
Thanks for the tour! Looking at one myself!
Nice review! I purchased my Diesel Willys December 31st this year and only have logged about 600 miles to date. Over all I agree with you on most points. So far I am averaging about 25 MPG combined and 27 on the Highway which is outstanding for a Jeep with 32 Mud Terrain tires!! Secondly, the torque just makes that a fun vehicle to drive and I look forward to moderate off road challenges this summer. I could not be happier with this combo!!
in pa its still the difference in paying 3.20 a gallon for gas or 4.29 for diesel and thats 10/09/21 prices. So its only fair to say the Dollar less and getting 22 or 23 perhaps with the 2.0 turbo or even getting 19 or so with the 3.6 may be a similiar option. so mpg although good, its still really crappy prices in pa for diesel always has been a dollar or more higher that gas for whatever reason
One of the best independent reviews I’ve watched, and I totally agree with why you chose the willys. I’ve been eyeing almost the exact same Jeep at a dealer near me, a willys unlimited in sarge green with the 3.0. Awesome video.
Thank you Jacob, I really appreciate the feedback. Give the Jeep a shot and see what you think!
@@ApexReviewsOfficial I test drove it over the weekend. It certainly didn’t help the “I really can’t afford this” mindset, but I’m applying to a couple new jobs in the future that will actually give me full time so I’m keeping my fingers crossed!
Good review. I added bumpers and a winch, we take our Willys Diesel off road towing a XVenture XV3 Trailer. Having the torque gives me lots of confidence off-road. I learned about the fuel discriminator when trying to fill from my Gerry can. Came up with a work around. I would like to fill up where the big trucks do.
I have the diesel Willys, its a beast!
Agreed! Truly a great machine!
Live the video, great real world feedback. I think the Willys comes with Rubicon springs/shocks regardless of engine though.
Thanks. Getting ready to purchase mine. This was very helpful.
We're waiting ony wife's JL Rubicon 4XE to arrive. Also, I'm ordering myself a Willys in Sarge green with the diesel, tow package, cold weather stuff and upgraded sound system.
You are going to love it Fred! The optional packages you mentioned are well worth it. You and your wife will love your new JLs! Congratulations!
Thank you for watching.
Nice! I have the white 2021 3.0L Willys but I am now envious of the Sarge Green. BTW, even on Rubicon 3.0L, the gearing is 3.73 and not 4.10.
Also:
Ecodiesels get cast iron knuckles, steel steering box and reinforced frame. Fun fact!
Also Gladiator eco’s share the same frame as the Mojave. Lots of owners including myself feel that the steering is actually tighter than the 3.6 counterparts.
A lot of common sense in this video. Nicely done….
I got a gladiator ecodiesel willis sarge green 2 wks ago , I love it
thnxs 4 video.
Damn, this is a good vehicle! Love it. Enjoy!
How would the Diesel engine hold up in the Texas heat?
Nice review. Looks like Jeep took away the 3L Diesel option for the regular Willys for 2022. You can still configure the diesel on the Willys Sport on the Jeep web site. Does anyone know more about this?
Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely! Thank you for watching!
Love my Sarge Green Rubicon
Great choice! The Wrangler wears the Sarge Green very well.
sadly in short Wranglers aren't possible 3.0l diesel engines... Vehicle is quite quiet and looks comfortable.
I have a 2021 diesel, I’ve put just under 200k miles on it. Never had 1 issue. The thing is a tank
That’s incredible! Averaging ~50k miles per year and never having even a small issue is a great example of what these engines can do. If you don’t mind me asking, do you use any fuel additives, and did you have the fuel pump recall completed?
@@ApexReviewsOfficial I do a lot of highway driving. Average around 29. The torque is so fun.
Awesome review, actually deciding between the gas or diesel Wlllys...does your diesel come with Auto Start/Stop function, or is that just for the gas version?
Rodel, the Diesel does have Auto Start Stop as well. I made a habit of pressing it every time I got in, but there are quite a few aftermarket options to keep it disabled permanently. The most common would be the Tazer by ZAutomotive.
Side note, I have actually traded in the JL for a JT (Gladiator) Mojave as I wanted a truck bed for transporting my dirt bike. The Mojave does not have the diesel as an option so I am getting by with the 3.6L. All told, it does fine for Michigan, but I truly miss the Diesel engine. The torque the engine offers, as well as the peace of mind with the 8HP75 transmission are two key items I had to part with in choosing that particular trim. Although it’s not perfect, if Stellantis began to offer the trim with the alternative engine, I would put an order in the next day.
Best of luck in your search!
@@ApexReviewsOfficial Thank you for taking time to answer my question, just saw that this was an older thread. I actually just sold my 2018 Tacoma TRD sport 4x4, and was really interested in the Willys package without going crazy with the Rubicon. Great content, and definitely subbed!
@@ApexReviewsOfficial I personally like the 3.6l esp now. its tried and true now in the jeep. theyve been running it forever, 2012 hurt its rep for sure, but they stuck with it and did what they should have and made it right. It has some get up and go I always thought. I have a jkr so its small but still its a good engine. I would never ever trust an italian 2 liter engine with a turbo in a jeep thats for damn sure,, the only way would be if leased or only drove em for the warranty period and traded em in.
How did you make your display say srt when you have a diesel?
Great video thank you! Looking to order one and trade in 3.6.
Really nice Jeep. I wish they would put a 4BTA Cummins in these, but those days are long gone I guess, and the lefties just won't allow it.
Wish You could get the Oil Burner in the 2 dr 😕
Great video!! One question is the diesel fuel cheaper than the regular gas we would be getting ?
duestion: does anyone know if 2022 year model willys exists extreme recon pack with diesel and with dana44 axles and both lockers???
nice review. I have the TRD Off Road 2018. I love it but was wondering about the JL Diesel. Is the ride smoother on the JL vs 4Runner?
Hey Scott, thank you for watching. The 4Runner definitely has a much smoother ride than a stock JL. The diesel in particular also has stiffer springs up front to account for the weight and you can tell it's a bit more "rigid" than the gasoline variants. If we were comparing NVH levels, the 4Runner would also take the cake. As you can imagine the rake of the windshield and hardtop result in pretty good levels of wind noise on the expressway. Overall the 4Runner is the better road trip vehicle without a question, but the Wrangler just has a "character" about it on the road that you'll learn to love. If we were comparing the balance of the powertrain, the Wrangler definitely has the better pairing (engine/trans), but then one could counter the long term reliability that the 1GR-FE/5 Speed offers. It's really a back and forth on both sides, and each has great points.
There were many pros and cons to each side, but I ultimately wanted to experience owning a diesel and some newer tech than I had in my 4Runner. Mine was a 2018 as well so we had the "OG" head units and I wasn't a fan of the 2020+ replacements as the resolutions appeared to take a hit. It's a nit pick, but the minor update made it difficult to justify trading into a newer 4Runner. I'd try finding a diesel JL locally and taking it on a good test drive (30-40 miles) to get a feel for it. It will feel way different than your 5th Gen, but you'll know if it's for you.
Also, I see you're a subscriber, so you're probably aware of the BP-51s that were on my 4Runner. I had these a majority of the time I owned it and they completely corrected the nose dive the stock T4R has, and also eliminated most of the body roll (paired with KO2's that is). My observations on stiffness and overall mannerisms is based on my memory with that suspension set-up.
Pardon the lengthy reply. I wanted to be thorough in my experience so you have good feedback from an owner of both.
@@ApexReviewsOfficial wow. Thanks for taking the time and typing that out. Great information I will look up the BP 51’s.
What do you think about leasing the eco diesel base model
I just leased a 2021 willys ecodiesel and i luv it, i drove it to reno and it handled well in the snow
Will you do a review of their 2021 luxury model jeep
I slid my TJ down an embankment upside down once. I hit a stump rear first and it flipped me back on all 4 wheels. I put the Jeep in 4X low and drove up and out to the road. The state trooper could not believe that I could drive up and out of that deep mess.🤩🤣
Glad you made it out ok....but the slide got you in that situation....
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How did you order Willy’s diesel? Jeep website doesn’t have diesel option for Willy’s. Is it a Willy’s sport version?
Creotag, great question. This is a standard Willy's, not a Willy's Sport. I took a look at the online configurator as well and see the same. It appears Stellantis may be holding this option back to push folks to higher level trims. I could surely see where someone would take this path as a more affordable, middle ground to the Rubicon.
I would recommend talking to your dealer to see if they see it as an option when they go to place an order. Hopefully it's just a bug in the online configuration tool.
Tough choice between diesel and gas powertrains in the Jeep. Costs $4K more for the EcoDiesel, and diesel fuel in this area is $1 more per gallon than gasoline. Pretty much negates the fuel economy advantage of the diesel. I'm probably going to go with either the 3.6L or 2.0L gas.
Yes I think you are right, the total average fuel cost would be about the same. For towing or large tires the diesel is going to perform way better. I would think that the diesel engine would last longer and the resale value would be better. I think it depends on your prefered driving style. If you like speed and zipping around go gas. If your a smooth and steady cruiser go diesel. If you get a diesel and your constantly accelerating hard or or pulling hard up hill(which is fun) you will wear down the tread on your rear tires in a hurry.
Did you custom order yours? If so, how long did it take? We ordered our Sarge Green rubicon diesel Saturday and I don't know if I can wait lol
I actually stumbled on this one while browsing a local dealer's inventory online. It was in transit at the time and was built almost exactly the way we would option it. I contacted a friend of ours at the dealer and he called us as soon as it arrived.
I've been reading a few forum threads (as I'm sure you are as well :D) and most folks are seeing theirs arrive ~6 weeks after their order. Congratulations on the purchase, I know you're going to love it. I'm just shy of 8,000 miles and it's running like a clock. Truth be told, I'd have a hard time returning to a gasoline vehicle after enjoying the low end torque and general ease at which the Wrangler gets around with this powertrain.
@@ApexReviewsOfficial oh I'm definitely reading them daily on jlwranglerforums🤣 It would seem as some get it within 4 weeks, while some takes months. Accessories tend to be a hold up it would seem but we didn't add any of those, just a few packages. I figure 8 weeks is a good estimate. We recived our VIN a few days ago and according to Jeepchat it's in scheduling right now but no est. ship date yet.
Like a little kid waiting for Christmas over here 🤣🤣
At 82 mph how was the wind noise?
Willys make it? Betty Don!
What kind of mileage loss do you see while towing?
I saw about 17-18 MPG while towing a 3,000 lb horse trailer. If I were towing a travel trailer of equal weight, but more with a larger surface area creating wind resistance I would expect a MPG drop of 1-2.
@@ApexReviewsOfficial Thank you
What size fuel tank does this come with?
18.3 Gallons. They reduced the capacity from 21.5 in the gasoline JLUs to make space for the DEF tank. Even with the reduced capacity, you’ll be looking at 450+ miles of range. 👍
@@ApexReviewsOfficial That’s awesome, thank you for responding! How are those Firestone tires in the snow?
The stereo is the easiest issue to fix
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