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- Germany 1945 ▶ Bombing of Dresden (13.-15.02.1945) by RAF Royal Air Force/ USAAF U.S.Army Air Force
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The attacks on Dresden, capital of Saxony, were carried out in several waves and alternately by the US Army Air Force and the RAF Royal Air Force. Further air raids on Dresden were already carried out in January 1945 and April 1945, here also with thousands of dead. At the time of the bombing, the city was overcrowded with refugees from the eastern regions of present-day Poland (Silesia, Pomerania) and Czechoslovakia (Sudetenland). Numerous prisoners of war were in the city. Dresden was an important hub for transports by rail, but had no significant air defence, since the Wehrmacht leadership did not expect any attacks on this important cultural city. Many German refugees came to Dresden because the city was considered safe from air raids. From February 13 to February 15, 1945, during the final months of World War II (1939-45), Allied forces bombed the historic city of Dresden, located in central Germany, today east. The bombing was controversial because Dresden was neither important to German wartime production nor a major industrial center, and before the massive air raid of February 1945 it had not suffered a major Allied attack. By February 15, the city was a smoldering ruin and an unknown number of civilians-estimated at somewhere between 35,000 and 135,000-were dead. British sources and journalists in 1946 speak of about 100,000 dead. By February 1945, the jaws of the Allied vise were closing shut on Nazi Germany. In the west, Nazi leader Adolf Hitler’s (1889-1945) desperate counteroffensive against the Allies in Belgium’s Ardennes forest had ended in total failure. In the east, the Red army had captured East Prussia and reached the Oder River, less than 50 miles from Berlin. The once-proud Luftwaffe was a skeleton of an air fleet, and the Allies ruled the skies over Europe, dropping thousands of tons of bombs on Germany every day.
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In Gedenken an meine Oma, die dies mit 2 Kindern überlebt hat 💕💫
Meine Oma hat es mit meiner Mutter in Hannover überlebt 😥
My grandfather was there, a 24-year-old Frenchman, a forced laborer. Maybe they helped each other, who knows?
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Meine Tante Margarete Dockhorn , kam aus Ostpreußen nach Dresden.
Sie hatte zum Ende des Lebens große Traumata...das war unglaublich.
Nun kann ich mir ein Bild machen.
Ich gedenke ❤❤❤und bete.
DRESDA la FIRENZE dell'Elba❣️
Bellissima città d'arte! Una autentica capitale europea!
13-15 febbraio 1945 un crimine contro l'umanità 😔
Un crimine fatto passare per un semplice argomento su cui c'è dibattito, quando invece non c'è alcunché su cui dibattere. Il bombardamento di Dresda fu un crimine di guerra e contro l'umanità, e sia gli USA che la Gran Bretagn, dovrebbero pagare per questo.
ça n'est pas du tout un crime contre l'humanité. Même si c'est terrible ce qui s'est passe. On fait beaucoup de bruit sur le bombardement de Dresde ; comparé aux horreurs de l'armée allemande, surtout en Europe centrale, Dresde c'est peu de choses.
@@thib3486Malheureusement ce sont toujours beaucoup de gens innocents qui payent le prix, comme maintenant en Ucraine et en Gaza. Plus de guerre!
Los nazis actuaron igual. Nunca les importó el arte ni la cultura de los pueblos y ciudades que bombardeaban, ahhh si a Goering.
А Сталинград летом 1942 года бомбить не преступление?Когда даже река Волга горела от разлитой нефти?А в столице Беларуси в 1944 году вообще несколько домов неразрушенных осталось.Это не преступление?
My admiration goes to the real heroes of the whole war .. the civilians, the citizens of this city, in short, the poor people who always pay the highest price for the will of a few thirsty for power or revenge ..
The real heroes?
So the civilians that did nothing are more heroic than those that actually fought for their countries?
The citizens of Germany should have prevented Nazism in the first place..! Germany has always been curse to the human race!
Бомбить мирные города даже во время войны это наиподлейшая подлость независимо от того кем вы себя считаете
Какой мирный город? Там что немецких войск не было? Или может быть оружия? К вашему сведению, это был один из крупнейших индустриальных и военных пунктов где перебрасывались войска из Запада на Восток (или обратно). Так может и Берлин не надо было бомбить? В 2000х группа историков получила задание от властей Дрездена подсчитать убитых, оказалось что не более 25 тыс было убито; так вот при взятии Берлина только Красной Армией было убито около 100 тыс мирного населения. Цыфра в 250 была объявлена Геббельсом и после этого всякие умники продолжили эту тему, хотя даже расскинув мозгами можно понять что не можно убить 250 тыс бомбёжкой в Дрездене, и ВТО же время около 20-50 тыс в Берлине где бомб было сброшено почти в 10 раз больше, это просто логически необъяснимо. Так что не надо, город был центром для войск которые должныбыли сражаться, для оружия, для поездных путей, т.д.
@@paulz.257 Берлин бомбить было нужно согласен на все сто но с Дрезденом не всё так как вы утверждаете
Не было в нём большого количества войск да и стратегически ничего особенного он из себя не представлял
А вот древних зданий с артефактами неудобными для объяснения в плане их изготовления хватало в нём с лихвой
Он стоял в стороне от основных направлений ударов армий
Так вот когда его бомбили так остервенело американские герои трупы мирных жителей невозможно было вывозить и хоронить по причине невероятного их количества и их сжигали на ровных участках прямо на месте
Настоящее происходящее нужно знать батенька а не слепо верить продажным СМИ какой бы стране они не принадлежали
Американцы с англосаксами мощные однако
Same is said of London and England, Pearl Harbor and most of Europe. Jews were being murdered all throughout all this as well.
Peaceful cities ...just what the fuck are you talking about!!!
Context: The Allied bombing campaign killed X number of Germans, dropped X number of bombs on German cities, etc. The Germans did the same thing to the Polish, British, the Soviets who are always left out of the German accounting, as well as other smaller numbers of Dutch, Yugoslavs, etc. The key piece for context here is to look at CAPABILITY of Allied Air Forces vs the Luftwaffe. Obviously the Allies were more "successful", but you have to look at the German capability relative to Allied before looking at the overall civilian loss statistics. The Luftwaffe had a lesser capability than the Western Allies, but they were still VERY active in bombing civilians with what they had to work with. German intent was every bit equal with Allied intent to bomb civilians and it pre-dated it.
You're completely right.t Dresden was an important target for USSR.They were fighting not very far when they launch their offensive in mid January 1945 and Dresden was important for Germans logistic;eventually the Germans launch their counteroffensive (Solstice) just at the time of the bombing of Dresden .For the WESTERN ALLIES the war was won but it could last one year more for the specialists and as Ike said no monument in Germany could be made in balance of the life of a single GI.For exeption it had be said to pilots not to bomb the Cologne Cathedral.Churchill I think wanted revenge too of course ,we have to remember that Germans were launching V2 recently;it's called looking for the stick to get beaten.However ,Im'sorry of course,for the Germans of today ;they must be terribly angry with their fathers which caused almost all the heritage to disappear.I live in Bordeaux with an intact 18 ième architectural "patrimoine"and I cannot imagine living in more or less rebuilt monuments,me who can't even stand Carcassonne so rebuilt by Viollet LE Duc!
@mitchrichards1532 Your ignorance knows no bounds. You are a willing consumer of the propaganda that is purpose made for the lazy and the closed minded.
Un crimen....contra la poblacion civil.....una tragedia....
@Gerron Craig は？
@@gerroncraig What's not to understand?! Even without knowing Italian I understood!
@@geronomina6395 It's Spanish.
@@TheMRmatt007 So what? I bet it's almost the same in Italian.
a sad day in history
IF sow London, Stalingrad, Warsaw reap Dresden, Hamburg
@@leonid7209 What do you do when you disagree with someone, kill him, his family and burn his town ? Isn't the old "an eye for an eye" not enough ?
no. you destroy him! if we did it right we would have erased Germany from the map...
@@howardmarcus7116 how can someone be so cold about human life?
@@9lettere668 There is not about agree 0r disagree but about life and death
No words
Maybe I didn't pay attention in school when they taught us this... or could it be I was never taught this? Why am I only just now learning about this? It's just as bad a Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Being down there... colllecting it all... What a nightmare.
Zitat Churchill vor dem Angriff auf Dresden zu den Piloten:
“Mich interessieren nicht irgendwelche militärischen Ziele in der Umgebung von Dresden - mich interessiert, wie wir in Dresden die Flüchtlinge aus Breslau braten können.”
Hier wurde die klare Absicht geäußert: VÖLKERMORD
Heimtücke:
die Durchführung der Angriffe war extrem hinterhältig
@Dieter Schmidt SATANtifant !
@Dieter Schmidt ................. das war ein ganz ganz lieber Mann, der von Krieg sooo dermaßen die Schnauze voll hatte, weil er selbst über 4 Jahre an vorderster Front als Melder gedient hatte. Wer den Krieg kennt, der will nur noch Frieden !!! Er war auch zu Beginn des Jahres 1939 für den Friedensnobelpreis vorgeschlagen worden, was natürlich verschwiegen wird.
@Dieter Schmidt
Wer jemals in die glasigen Augen eines Soldaten geschaut hat, der auf dem Schlachtfeld stirbt, wird gründlich nachdenken, bevor er einen Krieg beginnt.
Otto von Bismarck
@Dieter Schmidt
Wegen Verrätern wie dir mussten weit über 10.000.000 Deutsche bestialisch sterben. Es wäre Hassrede/Aufruf zur Gewalt etc.., wenn ich jetzt nicht abbrechen würde.
@Dieter Schmidt Niemand bestreitet die Taten der Nazis. Aber wer bei den Taten der anderen ein oder beide Augen zu drückt, der zeigt das es weniger um die Tat geht, sondern nur welcher Täter auf der richtige Seite stand.
We in the west shouldn't have had even the slightest inhibitions about "tweaking Lend-Lease" (to avoid the complete collapse of the SU, but not enough for communism to win). In other words, just as much Lend-Lease as needed, but not enough for the commie to storm all the way into Central Europe.
We should have "aided" the Nazis by as little strategic bombing as possible, but only as much as necessary to aid D-Day, but to avoid the complete collapse of Germany, the backbone of the Axis.
Why shouldn't it have bothered us in the least if the Eastern Front had settled somewhere between Leningrad and the Black Sea, with the two sides fighting until utter exhaustion?
*Because we owed Stalin nothing.*
Not single Jeep and not a single Studebaker truck, carrying commies into Central Europe by the millions.
Not a single drop of blood.
Stalin on the 19th August 1939, reported by meeting participants: *"Comrades! It is in the interest of the USSR, the Land of the Toilers, that war breaks out between the [German] Reich and the capitalist Anglo-French bloc. Everything must be done so that the war lasts as long as possible in order that both sides become exhausted. Namely for this reason we must agree to the pact proposed by Germany, and use it so that once this war is declared, it will last for a maximum amount of time."*
So our leaders sacrificed untold scores of own soldiers, own resources, own empires, and millions of own dollars, to hand over half the world to the commies. Only to end up fighting them in the other half for the next fifty years. Korea, Vietnam, the ME, and hundreds of proxy wars from Central America to Africa. Thousands of more body bags of *"our boys".*
Rather silly to "help innocent and cute Uncle Joe Stalin", if we could have just let *them* "slug it out to utter exhaustion, and then march over the ruins, a fate Stalin had intended for us...
Ah...smart leaders.
Too bad we didn't have any.
There was Arthur *"2 working brain cells"* Harris who was "just following orders".
And Sir Charles *"Mesopotamian kiddie terror bomber"* Portal, must have jizzed his pants in fond recollection.
And, last but not least Winston *"gas the Arab, Indians are beasts"* Churchill, who thought that "flattening Germany" would leave a *"Big Three"* to rule the world. LOL.
Last time I checked, the Cold War had a *"Big Two"* and the totally bankrupt British Empire was squeezed out of existence.
Ah well.
Too bad.
Actions have consequences...
i dont know what country u are from, but what u have wrote above is pretty bloodthirsty. U werent helping Joe Stalin, you genius, you were helping millions of people from being massacred. With the lend lease Russia lost 30 mln people - 20 mln civilians ! 20 !! million !! imagine how much more would have died
@@arsenasvarov1400 More than Stalin killed himself or (the later) Mao killed in China?
@@ralphbernhard1757well first of all, he didnt kill 20 mln, second of all he didnt wipe out whole western part of his country. And third of all, did u just justify killing of 20 mln, by saying that Stalin was killing himself??
And last. Dresden bombing was done by Allies - not the soviet side. "Commies", as u put them, never practiced carpet bombing of civilians cities.
And last last. Lend lease or no lend lease soviet industry was just starting to go on full throttle. Germans were doomed ever since Nov 41
@@arsenasvarov1400 Err....I didn't bring up the "who killed how many"-argument.
@@arsenasvarov1400 Note "Revenge" is a sad substitute for "grand strategy".
The "snowflakes" you often see made fun of on social media these days, understand "revenge" (an "appeal to emotion") but they don't understand "grand strategy".
I am from england and live not very far from where the RAF lancasters involved in the dresden mission were based and i will say it is very unfortunate that any of this had to occur and it is the price we pay in warfare..Best wishes to all germans and i hope we can be friends forever.
Maintenant c'est le tour de GAZA 😔
I bet the Germans are saying the same about English cities… not.
Read book " The Fire " Jorg Friedrich very pain
Dresden wasn't a target of strategic importance but that late in the war the USAAF and RAF had run out of targets so they were boming anything that was still standing Also they wanted to show willing to Stalin as Dresden was in the path of the advancing red army The fact that
it was crowded with refugees was just an added bonus I imagine
to help the Russian "allies" when Churchill already knew Stalin wasn't going to cooperate in any post war peace & democritisation of eastern Europe. Pathetic, then he shamefully tries to blame the head of British Bomber Command when the backlash came. Bomber Command was the only RAF unit not to be recognised with a British "Campaign Medal" causing its leader Arthur Harris to eventually emigrate to South Africa in disgust for the way his crew's were let down.
@@garysimpson3900 Neither Bomber Harris (He got a Statue, yes?) nor the Bomber-Crews deserve Medals and Honors!
For What? Close Combat? Or because of their precise placement of Bombs on fixed Targets?
Dresden was a major rail hub for the German army. There were also factories within Dresden which were supporting the Nazi war effort. So it is totally justified in my opinion.
@@jontymarsh0463 but are flame bombs needed to destroy railroads? Why burning down a city with a firestorm instead of just targeting the rails outside the city?
Just a massive railway terminus.....every war effort carried out by the Nazis relied upon trains......
😮😮😮 esa historia los libros y profesores no cuentan.Saludos de Lima Perú.
Unverzeihlich!!! Imperdonable!!!
Die Deutschen durchbohrten alle, indem sie die Juden im Ofen verbrannten. Ganz zu schweigen von der Zerstörung ganz Europas, einschließlich Warschaus.
@@badlieutenant5305 imperdonable también.
Een pure oorlogsmisdaad. Was nergens voor nodig!
A Norimberga alcuni criminali di guerra sedevano tra i giudici.
In Nuremberg, some war criminals sat among the judges.
In Nürnberg saßen einige Kriegsverbrecher unter den Richtern.
À Nuremberg, des criminels de guerre siégeaient parmi les juges.
в Нюрнберге некоторые военные преступники сидели среди судей.
En Nuremberg, algunos criminales de guerra se sentaron entre los jueces.
In Neurenberg zaten enkele oorlogsmisdadigers tussen de rechters. (NL)
@@alfonsmelenhorst9672 👌👍
A terrible avoidable war on the normal people’s
A hős és igazságos felszabadítók ugye? Amerika és Anglia...
Die Unschuldigen tun mir vor allem Leid. All diejenige, die den Krieg nicht wollten. Und die Kinder.
You reap the wind you sew.
A close relative of mine has been in charge to eliminate the victims of the Dresden bombing. For the life he spoke of 300 000 dead. Remember: In February 1945 the town of Dresden had 630 000 inhabitants, further at this time the city of Dresden was overcrowded with about 500 000 refugees coming from the east. So during the night of the Dresden bombing far more than a million people were present in this town, living together in a very confined space. The official number for 1945 of 253 000 dead is distributed in the following manner: 35 000 completely identified, 50 000 partly identified, 168 000 not identified.
Когда Сталинград ровняли с землей вы смеялись.
сталинград ровняли обе стороны -город фронтовой-
@@user-wp9wh4rm5d Советские солдаты защищали свою землю.
Сталинград немцы разбомбили еще до (!) наступления и штурма города. Ещё когда не началась массовая эвакуация жителей. Почитайте хотя бы « В окопах Сталинграда» В. Некрасова.
"The devastation of Dresden in February, 1945, was one of those crimes against humanity whose authors would have been arraigned at Nuremberg if that court had not been perverted.” - Richard. H. S Crosman, Labour Government Minister.
London Blitz 1917? What about that?
Shut up you silly man
What do you expect from Labour..?
Reaping the Whirlwind. The Germans, Italians & Japanese... they too left lots of beautiful cities in utter rumble.
@@mauriceschaeffer5070 There was a firestorm in London?
michael walsh, quit being a moron!. The Germans not only started the war, but they were also the first ones to begin the bombing of cities!. Bullies and murderers have to expect retaliation, or they will just carry on along the same track!
Mut ist der stolz,deutscher zu sein
Mut ist der stolz, Deutsche Agression zu Ueberleben. Zwei Weltkriegen anfangen, 30 Million Zivilisten ermorden....
If you dont want to be bombed dont start a war.
IE September 11 as well, Warrington etc
Was die Menschen hier erleiden mussten steht in keinem Verhältnis zu nichts anderem. Und wurde niemals richtig zum Thema gemacht oder aufgearbeitet, in keinem Unterricht. Möge man hier ihrer gedenken.
Parce que l'alliance isramerica ne veux pas
"Was die Menschen hier erleiden mussten steht in keinem Verhältnis zu nichts anderem" .... wirklich? Ausswitz, Dachau, Treblinka, Mauthausen, Majdenek, Sachsenhausen, Dora, ..... Wielun, Rotterdam, Warshaw, Coventry, Belgrad, Antwerpen, .....
Erzählen Sie dies auch den Einwohnern von Warschau, das von den Deutschen so sehr dem Erdboden gleichgemacht wurde, dass es Pläne gab, es überhaupt nicht wieder aufzubauen. Andere Dinge werde ich nicht erwähnen. Allerdings stimme ich zu, dass es auch ein Kriegsverbrechen gegen die Zivilbevölkerung war, denn die Alliierten hätten es schließlich nicht am Ende des Krieges tun dürfen, weil sie sowieso bereits gewonnen hatten.
Was die Menschen hier erleiden mussten liegt jenseits des gesunden Vorstellungsvermögen. Dennoch steht es leider sehr wohl im Verhältnis zu vielem, was im WW2 sonst geschehen war.
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The background music is terrifying
Not The Allies Finest Hour
The finest hours had been gone since battle of britain in 1940. The RAF bomber command never had.
I lost may family on december1944 when my hometown was attacked by the RAF Bomber Command with Arthur Harris! Now I´m an old man and cannot understand why Churchill and Harris had ordered this Holocaust and were not punished!
@@michaelengel3407
Crime de guerra, resumo da ópera. 😔
Yeah just like Warsaw.....Stalingrad and countless other places
Terrible la guerra ...nunca más
Long history of cowardly revenge
@patty, here we go again! who first started bombing metropolitan cities?? Are you coward therefore you can't stand the truth??
@@amenemhurt8817 but why you calling Nazi is bad if you are government compared to Nazi
@@amenemhurt8817 Yes the British
Yes, revenge and hate keep on going wars
Don't forget you bombed London before we bombed you. By that time you had raised cities such as Rotterdam and Warsaw to a pile of rubble. We were just retaliating. May be wise to read histiry, I believe it was April 1940, instead of an Raf field, you bombed part of north west London as your Luftwaffe decided due to low cloud cover and the inability to find your target to offload some ordinance to safely get across the channel not looking to see where they were offloading it.
Absolute unblieable !!!
Germany 1945 ▶ Bombing of Dresden 13-15 February by US Army Air Force and Royal Air Force
Feiger VÖLKERMORD !!!!! weiter nichts !
Why isn't there any videos on all the atrocities that Germany committed? Lol kinda forgetting about all that huh? The noble Germans didn't deserve this! Lol to funny
He who sows the wind reaps the storm. How many cities did the Germans destroy in such a way ?
Lutek. Are you saying that this was an act of justice? look at it in this way if you wish.
For me the indescriminate bombing, the firestorm of Dresden (Red Cross City) at the end of the war
was a war crime of the first order. Committed by US/GB forces. A horrific crime which has somewhat been deleted from history,the number of deaths being played down. There were about a million people in Dresden at the time, refugees from the eastern provinces, mainly women and children. The official death toll is 25.000 - 30.000, clearly an underestimation and insult to the victims and their families. History written by the winners. They erect memorials for the likes of Bomber Arthur Harris.
For further info on the bombing of Dresden read Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse 5. (Vonnegut, an American writer was a prisoner of war in Dresden when the city was bombed into smithereens.
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@@andreaerling7614 not a war crime by any means and germans preaching about war crime is laughable...6 million murdered in death camps...germans had no issue in bombing the uk and other countries..50million killed because of the germans and their expansionist desires...
@@andreaerling7614 when Dresden was bombed, the Wehrmacht was still sending V1 and V2 to Antwerp, murdering innocent people... since your beloved Germany refused to stop the terrible ,war of destruction they started, they got also some bombes on their stupid heads. And by the way, the bombs on Nazi stronghold Dresden saved the life of jews...
And They Told Us That Austrian Painter Was Evil and They Are Innocent 🤡
That'll teach em!
Это Карма! За наши уничтоженные города ,за тысячи соженных белорусских деревень...
И что, наши деревни после этого сразу восстали из пепла?
К тому же сожгли город те, чьи города и деревни не пострадали. Разве что Ковентри.
Не та карма.
@@elasticlion , да ладно, это война, можно было и побомбить.
@@elasticlion так это англосаксы бомбили. У них свои счеты и расчеты.
people justifying war crimes with revenge smh
Destraction of the Warsaw by Germans was worst - 85%.
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Een ongestrafte zinloze oorlogsmisdaad van de Britten waarbij deze prachtige stad grotendeels verwoest werd maar ook duizenden burgers het leven kostte.
RIP heiliges Deutschland
What a waste of architecture, a mind blowing architecture
Coventry, London, Derby, Plymouth, countless other British cities..... I need say no more. No more brothers wars.
Thank Churchill for that.
Churchill stopped the Nazi's, does this hurt you?
@@KK-rg1wz Yeah right. You mean the Americans
@@GlossaME The "Americans" only entered the war when they were attacked by the Japanese. And it was Germany who declared the war to the USA.... In 1940, only the Brits kept on fighting against Germany...
Huh! Of course not, im British.... Im just saying we should never go to war again....@@KK-rg1wz
Жалко город..😪
zidi nedadelanie tolko mogli bombit nevinnie krasivie goroda !
As you measure to others, so will it be measured to you 😔
and to think when they re-built the lady church that liar blair got an invite, unbeliveable !
Зачем вообще надо было бомбить Дрезден, там же не было заводов
Зачем? А что бы сейчас называть себя защитниками немцев от русских. Немцы считают американцев и англичан своими союзниками и друзьями. Видать именно потому, что бомбили.
для того щоб коли будуть бомбити рашу знали за що...за Грузію за УКРАЇНУ за СИРІЮ за боїнг і багато ще за що. щоб ви поплічники путіна знали що і ви особисто в цьому винні. ви такі самі як і тімці у 1941.
A ile waszych miast zbombardowali Niemcy? Dostali to na co zasłużyli. U nas zrównali z ziemią Warszawę i wymordowali dziesiątki tysięcy niewinnych ludzi
@@user-yt6dr1pe7w Бомбилка бля не выросла
@@user-yt6dr1pe7w на кукан захотел ?
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Quem planta espinhos colhe espinhos
Nobody was taken to court for bombing and reducing to dust 61 German cities, some of the most beautiful in Europe, many with unique and irreplaceable architecture and countless masterpieces and priceless documents in various museums and private collections.
No one was taken to court for deliberately targeting city centers, residential areas and the civilian populations using illegal phosphorous fire bombs and delay fuse bombs meant to explode when the population came out of the refuges or to have planned bombings in waves in the hope of catching the fire brigades and medical units out in the open and...
Nobody was taken to court for leaving the few available targets of military value untouched and lying about it to the general population and their own pilots and...
No one IS taken to court for refusing to recognize m,ore than 80 years later that a crime of unimaginable horror was committed against a civilian population that had nothing to do with the war and that none of the stated aims of this crime against humanity were obtained, high command being perfectly aware of this long before the destruction ended,
THEREFORE, we need a few totally partial judges, prosecutors, defense lawyers, researchers and various clerks, preferably right wing German extremists, no worse than Soviet judges in 1946, lets's get the charter that was used in Nuremberg and call the accused: Churchill, Harris, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, Marshall, Montgomery, their assistants, assistants of assistants, let's torture them mentally as much as we have dreamed of all those years, judge them or rather pretend to and hang them using a short drop that doesn't break the neck, prolonging the agony for up to half an hour shall we?
Ok Dresden was bombed, destroyed, many civilians killed, that's right. However, Warsaw was also completely bombed and set on fire by the Germans, as well as many other cities, towns and villages, and many people died.
The Polish army had taken refuge in Warsaw and refused to surrender. The air campaign was in conjonction with artillery and ground forces, which is very different. The Germans dropped leaflets telling of breaks in the attacks to allow civilians to exit the city and to demand surrender, the Polish army only surrendered when most of the city had been destroyed, there is no possible comparison between the two.
@@rosesprog1722 Dresden was as far behind the front as Stalingrad was when the Luftwaffe firebombed it. Same same...
Well, most of german cities were burned down and ruined like that. I hope that blasphemic bombing really shortened the war. Anyway the allied forces told so for justifying these war crimes.
So were London, Coventry, Warsaw, Rotterdam, Paris and a thousand other towns and cities bombed by the Luftwaffe war crimes as well, then?
LOS CRÍMENES DE LOS ALIADOS...THE CRIMES OF THE ALLIES....Die Verbrechen der Verbündeten.
Nothing less than a crime against humanity.
What about London and Coventry? Was that crime??
If you're going to make that assessment, you have to illustrate what it was about the February 13th and 14th raids on Dresden that make them so vindictive, so excessive and so disproportionate that they stand out from tens of thousands of other aerial assaults prosecuted by all combatant nations. I invite you to tell us what it was.
He who " Cast the first Stone"
Warsaw had it much worse
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My city of Wuerzburg destroyed on 16.3.1945 6000 dead ..
Germany was really pretty country. Before the war... And that war wasn't started by United States, England, France or Poland... It was started by Germany, which destroyed hundreds of cities and towns and thousands of villages... If you think, that Dresden was a crime, remember of Warsaw, Kiev, Minsk and many more... Remember of German aerial bombings of Warsaw, Rotterdam, London or Belgrade... "Crime and Punishment"...
In war, there is something called "proportionality response" that divides mass murder from self-defence. The Luftwaffe dropped 150K Tonnes bombs on London during the whole Battle of Britain. The RAF dropped 500K T on Dresden just during one single night. Is this anything but proportional? I am not saying Nazi Germany was absent of any crime against humanity and that they should have been punished as aggressors from the beginning for the bombings of Warsaw, Rotterdam, London, Belgrade; for the Holocaust, etc... But that does not exclude the fact that the Allies, mostly the RAF, committed mass murder by bombing Dresden under such disproportionate use of force. That is just pure irrational and criminal revanchism.
@@docp92 The Wehrmacht was sending V1 and V2 to peacefull Antwerp, till March 1945. They had to be stopped, ..
Wirklich schade. So eine schöne Stadt.
@@docp92Thank you for your thoughtful comment.
There are still too many people in my view who reckon that the bombing of Dresden (which was packed with refugees from the Eastern provinces) 2 months before the unconditional surrender was justified.
It is interesting to note that in spite of all the allied bombing the criminal, murderous Nazi regime did still not cave in.
That only happened when the Russian army conquered Berlin 2 months later - on the ground.
@@KK-rg1wz The bombing of Dresden occurred in mid February 1945, so it obviously did ot stop the German bombing of Antwerp in March 1945.
After the war the winners wrote the distorted history Some how there was nobody left to object But they couldn't delete some things but tried to make it smaller
Of course everything was for the free world
@@semsemeini7905 i wrote this for the innocents who died in dresten i am not a nazi learn the history well about the Armenian
This is Crime Against Humanity
War is a crime against humanity.
Murdering 14 million people is a cime against humanity.
Fire bombing japanese citys to the ground is a crime against humanity.
Murdering and pillaging your way across china is alot of crimes against humanity.
Going on a revenge campain in germany is a crime against humanity.
War is hell
And the ones who started it have no right to complain about the consequences of doing so
@Doktor Doof What does china have to do with my comment?
Are you talking about theyr racist policies?
Murder
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Madness
Мы и этого,синвара шминвара найдем.
Een zinloze actie en een oorlogsmisdaad die ongestraft bleef
Ces tristes images me rappelle les villes de Normandie après les bombardements alliés souvent sans aucunes justifications militaires caen le havre rouen etc etc etc....
Beaucoup de compassion pour Dresde et ses ames disparues.
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1) The city was not peaceful, it had troops, weapons, and war factories and. in 1944, the German Army High Command's Weapons Office listed 127 medium-to-large factories and workshops in Dresden that supplied materiel to the military. 2) According t the Dresden investigation conducted in 2000s no more than 25,000 were killed in the raid 3) About 60,000 tons of bombs were dropped on Berlin but "only" about 20-50,000 were killed, thus it it would be impossible to kill 250,000 in Dresden were only about 7,000 tons of bombs were dropped. 4) Bombing a city is not a war crime because if it was all German pilots who bombed cities all over Europe would be war criminals.
Do it again...
No, war has been over since decades. Well, "the butcher" would not do it again anyway as it was useless destruction and little popular after war.
WTF ?
Not crime?
Crime against humanity.
Wer ist der Täter?
Das RAF bomber command. Allerdings reichen die Wurzeln dieses schrecklichen Terrorangriffs bis in die Berliner Wilhelmstrasse. Schon im Sommer 1943 bemerkte die Deutsche Führung zu was das bomber command fähig war als in Hamburgs Bunkern und Kellern 35000 Tote lagen nach mehreren Terrorangriffen der RAF. Höchste Zeit also für Friedensverhandlungen. Es geschah nichts weil in Berlin Verbrecher das Land regierten die weitermachten bis kein Stein auf dem anderen war.
Sorry terrorist attacks. You started it. We finished it. Hamburg was an answer to Coventry, you raised an old medieval city to the ground, so we did the same to you. We targeted initially cities that had economic or military importance to the third reich, then we did target other cities. You sowed the seed, your blitzkreig was the model for flattening cities like Rotterdam, Warsaw, and Coventry at al. Now you are complaining that you should not have recieved the whirlwind. If it was not for people in the Reichstag wanting to dominate Europe, Dresden would have still stood, along with Hamburg, Cologne, Coventry, Rotterdam, and other cities east of Germany in the Soviet Union. War is shit and a lot of innocents and beatiful cities got destroyed in the process. We need to move on, it's been many years since and you rebuilt Dresden.
karma! rotterdam, coventry, guernica!
Äpfel mit Birnen vergleich . Wikipedia? Looser🍌
When Guernica was bombed London was quite happy with this.
The Fnglish assisted Franco even with a naval blockade !
Yes, this how to recognize a war crime. It is justified with other war crimes.
Это Карма за соженные белорусские деревни с женщинами ,детьми, стариками... сотни !! Если бы у нас была атомная бомба в 45 году - их следовало бы сбросить на Будапешт и Берлин !
@@user-ue6di6gd9r Совершенно верно! Венгры, финны, румыны, болгары а так же и остальная нацистская Европа быстро слилась, теперь такая риторика, будто немцы одни виноваты. Но мы помним кто был кем! Привет из Ленинграда.
and with angela merkels messures this is what germany will look like soon but from within...
Nonsense
Denn SIE wissen nicht , was sie tuuun😢
They call it moral bombing,moral,you know what the word means,its a crime,i am born in rotterdam,and the old city was gone,in an old jewish neighborhood, although iam greek,misling half greek half dutch,there was not a single jew left over.the former housowners were jews so my grandma sold it.best think she ever did,not a happy house.but still today you see the results,growing up,it was a strange city,weird in some places.
As Ädolph said “When diplomacy ends, War begins.”
Germany could have capitulated and saved countless lives on all sides.
Germans wrote the manual on war crimes and atrocities during WW2, the Allies just followed their lead.
The nazis bombed military targets and the dresden bombing happened when it was already clear that the allies would win the war. It was a unnecessary attack on civilians and the allies certainly didn't "follow their lead"...
Вы немцы евреям и в подметки не годитесь! Если захотят, от вас и следа не оставят! Не на того нарвались! Надо было головой думать, прежде чем концлагери устраивать! И сейчас правильно, вас разбавляют, вообще нацизма не должно быть! Вы вообще в курсе, что немцы как нация появились благодаря Бисмарку всего лишь около 140 лет назад? Т.е. вы искусственно созданная нация, и вообще нации все искусственно созданы. Придет время, когда на планете будет один народ, это будет самый великий народ, великая нация!
@@batistabomb310 I don't think you ever heard of the Blitz (40k civilian casualties) or the bombing of Rotterdam (~900 casualties) if you think the nazis only bombed military targets. Are you that ignorant that you are putting the nazis in the right? The Germans started total war, and total war is what they got. While many German civilian lives were lost, their industry and infrastructure got crippled by the allied bombing campaign. Besides, if Germany had the airpower the allies had they would have done exactly the same if not worse to British and Soviet cities. So while I think the bombing of Dresden surely wasn't a great or glorious thing, in my opinion it was justified in the total war Germany started themselves.
@@jorzbelin1130 War crimes do not justify war crimes.
Legally, the British and Americans were not any better than the Germans.
Even though moral was on the side of the Allies.
It was a crime against culture.
This is what happens when you put your Arm up an Swear Alligence to the Devil!!!
Wat je zaait ,zal je oogsten.....
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No one who is not the politicly current is banned. Free Speech nnein.
Corona is taking Germany's revenge
Thanks God
Verdient ist verdient
Genocide too. But this was a necessary one...right?
This wasnt genocide.
@@UltmateKngofNothngthest Ese bombardeo fué un crímen de guerra y de lesa humanidad y sus responsables deberían haber sido juzgados y condenados porque ese es un tipo de delito imprescriptible, tanto como los cometidos por la alemania nazi.
@@karinakupcewich7451 What?
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A crime.
War crime....
Eye for an eye
@@FreeIsraelll You cant justify a Crime with a another Crime
@@FreeIsraelll And the even bigger Point you cant pusish people for something other people did only because they have the same nationality I mean so many children died there but they werent responsible
@@Gottesanbeter10 Auswitch....no more comments.
@@Gottesanbeter10 Treblinka...no more comments.
semms like bombed Bakhmut in Ukraine
Era necesario inecesario hacer esto ? Si era necesario para el sionismo, Desden era de tradición católica cristiana
ASI como Hiroshima Nagasaki