Dresden Bombed To Atoms: World War II (1945) | British Pathé
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- RAF heavy bombers are seen dropping bombs over Dresden, Germany toward the end of World War II in this remarkable archive footage from 1945.
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Full title reads: "DRESDEN BOMBED TO ATOMS".
Dresden, Germany.
Several shots of formation of Lancaster planes in flight. Close up shot of propellor of Lancaster spinning while plane is in flight. Aerial night shots of bombs bursting, incendiary fires and antiaircraft fire during bombing raid Dresden.
Aerial shots of formation of Flying Fortresses with vapour trails - day after the RAF (Royal Air Force) bombing. Close up shot of Flying Fortress in flight. Aerial shots of bombs leaving plane and falling on Dresden.
(M & T. Negs.)
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My great uncle served in Italy’s campaign in Greece. After the armistice, he tried to come back to Italy but was apprehended by the germans, which imprisoned him in a concentration camp more than 50 kms away from Dresden. He told stories about how they could see the lights of the bombs and feel the ground shake from where they stood during the bombing. Thankfully he was able to survive the camps and died peacefully in 1998
He should have fought against the Communists until the very end.
Parla Italiano allora, cazzo parli Inglese?
One of my grandpas also died in 1998, born 1922. He was a German soldier on the western front in France 1941, as he came from Westphalia. My other grandpa was born 1923 and died in 2011. He served on the eastern front in Russia, actually most of the time in today's Ukraine from 1942 onwards. He came from east Germany, Cottbus, and after the war studied in nearby Dresden. Students to enroll at university had to work a certain amount of ours to rebuild university schooling rooms (also in other parts of Germany).
Why was your great uncle imprisoned then?
@@BlauerBooo Pity any of these criminals survived the war.
@@patriciabrenner9216 Pity that you only wish other people's death somehow ^^
Damning all kind of war crimes and genocides is important, thats one thing. Being opposed to war in general is good too, it is another thing. Being called in as a soldier despite your own views and under certain social and historical circumstances is a third thing. A woman can have a big mouth on that.
"No enemy bomber can reach the Ruhr. If one reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Goering, you can call me Meyer."
-Hermann Meyer
Chief of the "Luftwaffe"
I heard that phrase so many times before and never understood the meaning of it. Good one!
"When I saw those P 51's over Berlin I knew the jig was up''. Hermann Goering to his Allied captors.
Ja das waren Kriminelle - aber bezahlt hat die Zivilbevölkerung und der feine Zigarrenraucher Mr. Churchill war genau so Kriminell!
"When I saw those P-51's over Berlin I knew the jig was up,'' Hermann Goering to his Allied captors.
Based of your profile, your clearing trying to victimize the nazis.
Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaky, Stalin crimes were not crimes against humanity for a simple fact...the winners write history.
Who would you have sided with, if you had the choice? The Allies or the Axis?
"The winners write history" 🤡
Italians were the worst military in ww2, ran away half the time got rodgered when they did fight and then switched sides. I can see why your salty about the history of ww2 because your country were an embarrassment.
Someone has to write it
@@Oxnaforda Mussolini ensured the British Empire did not survive.
I can't imagine anything much more terrifying than being caught on the wrong end of a carpet bombing.
Being herded naked into a room and gassed with a commercial pest insecticide at Auschwitz?
Being herded into a gas chamber???
@@ffggcvcfcgvcf492 Yes. Duh.
@@argustuft2394 That never happened.
@@ffggcvcfcgvcf492 They were built by the Soviets after the war.
It was a terrible thing but it must have been unbelievable to see it for yourself, a whole city in flames
I would never want to see something like this for myself, never.
from my grandfather's logbook "13. 02. 45. Hardly any opposition. Target only. 70 miles from russian lines at Breslau. City a mass of flames. Inspiring sight. Made a wide circuit of the target to give boys a peep"
This is what you get for trying to systematically eliminate God’s chosen people and if you try it again you will get even worse.
@@Attmay says the who? The history books? The people who rule the world and consider us normal people as trash? History is never taught properly in schools, public or home. It is up to the individual to judge both sides of the story, not just the one we are indoctrinated with yearly.
@@equallywrong Well now is very possible
Historians are still arguing over the number of deaths. But look at those firestorms. There is just no way only 25-40k people died; it was well North of that, easily. Dresden had its own population and was filled with refugees and military ready to ship out to Russia. Where were people to go to escape those firestorms and scorching heat? Nowhere.
My theory lately is maybe this raid was given the go ahead to kill as many people as possible who escaped from east to prevent them revealing the truth about Russian crimes. Maybe not, whatever the reason it can't be justified.
Imagine getting boiled alive by just heat and the river.
I suppose they now say that number and not 200.000 anymore because the US is their ally now. But no idea.
I'm afriad you have been a victim of post war propaganda. Check out Kraut's video on this subject.
Goebbels added a zero but go ahead and keep defending people that dug their own graves by turning the other cheek to their dictator’s atrocities
On my tour through Dresden, they said desperate people were jumping into fountains, only to die instantly as the water was boiling at over 1,000° Fahrenheit. Horrifying.
Not more horrifying as the people that died in the gaz chambers of Auschwitz.
@@patriciabrenner9216 Both utterly horrifying. One doesn't cancel out the other.
@@ninasju One is the retribution for the other
Don't you see what's wrong with the statement "water was boiling at over 1,000° Fahrenheit"?
Total bullshit.
my great-grandmother even saw Dresden burning in Bautzen, miles away.
a war crime that was unpunished
Nie vergessen 🕯
@@africanlipplateandbonenose3223 Dresden bombing was a war crime, like Hiroshima was. Also Germany's and Russia's eliminating prisoners of war were war crimes. - There is no war without war crimes, also if one calls them "collateral damage". That's euphemistic but doesn't change fhe facts.
My mother (born 1936) left Dresden in the last train, that train stopped and turned out the lights, so she also saw Dresden burning.
Nazis are whining.
It amazes me how people when mentioning Dresden don’t understand what happened to Coventry, London, Portsmouth, Southampton, Bristol, Liverpool, Manchester, Hull etc. It’s quite incredible that people don’t comprehend how much worse the bombing of Tokyo was to this. Complaining about war crimes, don’t see the residents of the British cities complaining about war crimes 80 + years later.
It’s because the post WW2 era is coming to an end as we enter a new world order, and every crank amateur revisionist historian is coming out of the woodwork to redefine the narrative of WW2. It’s similar to the cycle of generational rebellion of children against parents except on steroids, and spanning a long adult lifetime as opposed to a 20-30 year cycle. Nothing is sacred, and no deeply held narrative is safe. Reality and truth are up for grabs. It’s sad, and hopefully the truth of who the “good guys” and “the bad guys” were in this conflict will be defended and upheld.
Dresden and the follow up called "operation Blowback" were meant to ensure there would be no German refugees. Firebombs were implemented. Dresden was a spectacle like none preceding it.
The reason we don't mention the British target cities is that those have been reported for a long time at the exclusion of discussion about the Allied leveling of European cities. The German ones being just a portion of it.
Les bombardements sur les villes britanniques n'ont pas été d'une intensité aussi brutale même si vous avez raison de le souligner .
Le Bombardement de Dresde est un Crime .
Cela n'excuse pas bien sur les crimes des Nazis.
L'objectif aussi c'était de montrer à Staline une Menace
@@EJisArete
Wie kommst du auf solche Lügen?
@@Die-Sophie Ich verwende Quellen, die von linken Akademikern nicht genehmigt wurden.
Warum sollte man die Anhänger der kommunistischen und der Weltregierung ernst nehmen, wäre meine Frage an Sie.
My great grandpa was 16 and in the Waffen SS by that time, he had to search for bodies in the burnt and collapsed buildings and afterwards never talked about it again and cried every time when he did. He didn't wanna have something to do with this time and even cut out his tattoos with his blood-type and number
Traumatized forever
At least he survived and lived long.
Just what the luftwaffe did to my city, Coventry. This was deserved revenge.
considered ur great grandpa was a very lucky lad,, Soviet red army, French army or even sometimes GI would 3x3cuted SS on sight whether they surrender or not
@@doma7956 you guys were probably killing and oppressing German minorities, so you deserve everything that happened to you.
It's interesting to note that, as this and other Allied bombing raids took place across Germany, the Ministry of Propaganda was still actively producing films (under "Die Deustche Wochenschau") claiming that the war was in Germany's favor. The last Wochenschau film from March 20th, 1945 even showed Hitler himself in Berlin. I highly recommend viewing these late-war films because it shows the last months of the war from a unique perspective.
Classic vintage copium, just like grandpa used to have it
I'm German. I was in hospital in 2017 for a month. I had an surprisingly fit 89 years old man on my room, who told me stories about WW2 (like how he was able to avoid the Hitlerjugend etc.) and he said in the radio you would hear that the war is going great, that the victory would be close and then finally you would see armed Russian soldiers walking down the streets and you would need to run, since they also shot many civilians. It's really crazy how they lied to the population for so long and how they were able to hide concentration camps and the real bad stuff from like 90% of the military. Hitler and his men didn't trust ANYONE except the SS.
Baghdad Bob was hilarious in 2003. He was on live TV saying how Iraq was winning the war and the Americans were so close they almost nabbed him during his report.
@@josephastier7421
2003, not 1991
@@salamyaya162 Indeed. I have corrected the post. Thank you!
War crimes remain war crimes, no matter how you try to justify them...
Yes...also those who were tried to be excused with others. Like the fev hitler supporters being killed in Dresden against all the millions that died in the KZs and battlefields that Hitler started...
Easy to say as a german. Why did germans destroy Warsaw and Rotterdam?
Every action gets a reaction.
Only the germans are to blame. Shouldnt start ww2 and Dresden would be Beautiful but germans wanted war
The Allies where the biggest war criminals in history.
As an Englishman, if I cannot speak of the Blitz....
My girlfriend is Belarusian.
@@Angelcynn_2001 What's your point exactly?
Dresden? There is not such a place any longer." "I want to point out, that besides Essen, we never actually considered any particular industrial sites as targets. The destruction of industrial sites always was some sort of bonus for us. Our real targets always were the inner cities.
- Arthur Harris
So where were the industrial units in the pool of london please.?...Name one legitimate military or munitions factories in central london.
@@doctorsocrates4413Brits could have been morally better than the germans, but failed to do that.
@@Ah01 what a joy we weren't alive to make these decisions for our society. The moral high ground is bonkers when one starts killing someone else's people.
Any action to stop legitimate threat and a peer at that is acceptable.
@@Ben942K Yes, it can be called moral high ground, if you will. It can also be, that those commenting from the safety and comfort of any western country may have different perspective and family history concerning the slavery, that sovjets (and their western cronies) provided for us east europeans.
@@Ah01 As I said... The moral high ground isn't present in war and it's naive, judging from history, to believe one side should. While they absolutely could, thankfully we didn't need to make those decisions while facing a serious threat from people were looking to conquer more people.
Actual bomber pilots in WW2:
Jesus Christ what we have unleashed hell down there on innocent mother's and children!
Their grandkids:
🤓 Well actually it was deserved because they did it first.
This goes for both sides.
How on Earth does this go for both sides? What kind of twisted thinking is that?
Brits: This will pay them back for bombing civilians in Belgium, the Netherlands and London and starting the war in Europe!
Nazis: We will bomb them because they did not surrender and just go quietly to the gas chambers when we started the war!
Bothsidesism is whataboutism.
Their grandkids’ grandkids’ will be speaking Russian and Hebrew.
@@Attmay Europa The Last Battle documentary I assume?
@@Attmay ???
"After this Hitler will need to look at the substitute for the substitute" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hitler couldn't have cared less what happened to the German people. It was all about his own unbridled selfish ego.
This is Germany version of Hiroshima & Nagasaki
Actually it's worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And atomic bombing could be understood, because Japanese planned to drop a bio bomb on California. And also because Soviets could invade and capture Japan. But Dresden is not so important city to bomb into dust is, of course superfluous.
@MrBeeMAD meanwhile Germany planned to strike America and Britain with High powered ICBMs from U boats. There is a reason why they went after them...
They were even proud of their war crimes against defenseless civilians.
Yep sickening, there was no need to bomb dresden and it was over crowed with refugees.
I wouldn’t say they were proud at all. It’s called strategic bombing.
Remember, the Nazis started WW2
@@adamsons2890 Britain and France started both world wars.
Based
It’s not a war crime if you win…
History belongs to the victor
And the worst people possible won WW2. Look at Pride Month
@@QuestionEverythingAssumeNothng it’s also not a war crime if you are responding it’s called replaying the favour.
@@QuestionEverythingAssumeNothngso that’s why they had Nazi generals right the history of the eastern front?
@@QuestionEverythingAssumeNothng But the stinking truth will always come up from under the carpet after a while.
So called GOOD people do these things and pat themselves on the back.
Yep
MERICA RAHHHH 🦅🦅🦅🦅
Yws
I don't think the call themselves good people, however do you understand why they bombed dresden?
@@Ihavpickle Orders. They will obey orders to do anything at all, history proves it.
Imagine being proud of this
Because it was a military target with 50,00 factory workers, railway hubs, hundreds of military bases,etc.
@@howtodobyanidiot595 Not to mention tens of thousands of civilians!
They are proud of going after a bunch of starving civilians trying to get food from an aid truck.
Yep
@@harleycutedog3104 Did you even read my comment you Nazi moron?
Germany brought this on itself....
No.
Of course it did. They thought murdering, bombing and stealing all over Europe was their right and they wouldn't face a reckoning.
@@patriciabrenner9216 That was the USSR.
@@rosesprog1722 Poland, France, Czechoslovakia, Greece, Morocco, Italy, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium... The list of German aggression is endless. They should have given up to avoid the total destruction of Germany but they didn't, they waited until Germany was in ruin and there were 2.5 million angry Russians in Berlin to give up
@@mrcaboosevg6089 If you go a little deeper you will see that the British refused every peace offer sent to them and that they made promises to most European countries that they had no intention to keep or couldn't keep like they had done to the Poles in March 1939, just as they were about to finalize an agreement with the Germans, which led to the Poles cancelling the German deal and, thinking the British would join the fight, began to attack the Germans at every occasion. As to the Soviets, they had already invaded all the regions between them and western Europe except Germany and the region of Romania from where the Germans imported their oil, leaving the Germans no choice. And, by the way, without US help, Lend-Lease, they would likely have lost to the Germans plus Stalin had already made a deal with Churchill behind Hitler's back but Hitler found out about it so he knew it was only a matter of time, his only chance was to attack first, it was just not enough. Your version is the easy, uninformed one, the winners version, reality is much more complicated than that, and there's a reason for everything, including whatever the Germans did, hatred or Hitler's insanity have nothing to do with it, the story we were all told says the allies didn't commit any war crime, do you really believe that?
The same inferno can be felt on Kobe and Tokyo on the same year.
Few remember Kobe and Tokyo.
Seeing European cities bombed to dust in WW2 has to be one of the most tragic images of all time. Europe was TRASHED in WW2, and for what?
For Wall Street.
@@MarkHarrison733
🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@Die-Sophie See who Churchill blamed for Communism in February 1920.
@@MarkHarrison733
Irrelevant.
@@Die-Sophie It had declared war on Germany in March 1933.
They were proud of this
Based people
@@NoContextEylul and look what it has earned them
@@T3t4nu5 Freedom for Germany, a new REDEMPTION arc for the Germans
yep, there are warcrimes and "warcrimes"
You will find, if you can be bothered to check, that there were massive concerns voiced in Parliament and in the media about bombing in this fashion. Churchill sent an internal memo in March 1945 questioning the value of it. Bomber Command were stigmatised for decades, with no campaign medal and no dedicated memorial until 2012. A poor thanks for the 50% casualties they suffered. So don't talk utter trash.
Not a military target, allies knew this but killed 1000s of civilians, women and children anyway.
It was a military target. Railways for a start
@@stephenpage-murray7226 and civilians who like all germans, were criminals.
Eye for an eye
Well, bomber command did that not for the first time and even not for the last.
@@michaelengel3407 Not enough
"War is cruel you cannot refine it" William Tecumseh Sherman
War is progressive when the enemy is not.
Except that most civilisations have, to some extent at any rate. Sherman is literally one of the most famous butchers of civilians in history, so he would say that, wouldn't he?
@@davespiller684 Sherman considered a civilian butcher???? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@LarryDaLobstah He wrote:
'"we must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children."
And: "during an assault, the soldiers can not pause to distinguish between male and female, or even discriminate as to age."
@@davespiller684yah that’s literal propaganda you realize that right?
among the biggest warcrimes commited by the british and americans during ww2
Try to keep crying because no one cares
@@tranhuuluan7973No one cares about 25.000 deaths and destroyed cultural heritage? I dont think so.
@@tranhuuluan7973OK britshit
Oh please. The Nazis have no right to complain after what they did to London, Warsaw, and Leningrad.
Among others, you know.
@@TheResilient5689 by Nazis you mean an entire civilian city full of women and children?
Meanwhile in Palestine:
Came here because gaza reminded me of that
Narrator turning a horrible war - crime against humanity into a heroic achievement. Disgusting !
Germany met the whirlwind, and they deserved it all.
I recommend you watching Europa the last battle you can find it on odyssey
What the hell is wrong with you? You're sick man
@@istaag8929 Don't try to take over the world and commit mass genocide if you're not ready to get burned to the ground ;)
@@Tom_Cruise_Missile well how about if I said that the whole thing was engineered by the very same people who cried wolf. The only sad part about it is the people who really suffered are the civilians of Germany, Russia, england.. ECT and not their generals who were part of the plot. Remember Germany our tribal society no way, were they all of a sudden United against a cause. This was way above and beyond that and was bankrolled by the very same....... wolf
@@Tom_Cruise_Missile take that with a warm milk son
that is terrifying
Blame it on Hitler not the US 😂I can't imagine what the men coming back from war would say about this video if it came out in the 40s....and what your grandparents/great grandparents would do to you if you told them you supported this video.
My grandfather served in World War II. He said we should never have declared war on Germany.
@@MarkHarrison733
Where are you from?
@@TankMasterGo The UK.
@@MarkHarrison733 Traitor.
Crime against humanity .
Actually sweet retribution for German crimes.
@@patriciabrenner9216 So it's okay to punish injustice with injustice? With this attitude history will only repeat itself, please reconsider your opinion.
Tell that to the victims of Auschwitz.
You need to learn the difference between normal war and war crimes.
@@ajcso7844 you need to learn the difference between a normal war and total war. So the British should sit back and let the nazis destroy their cites and do nothing? Thank god you weren’t running the country.
This was a war crime.
All air raids against civilians were war crime.
@@michaelengel3407 Churchill began civilian bombing.
@@MarkHarrison733But didn’t Hitler order the bombing of civilians in Poland?
It was a very smart move by the allies. Apparently U.K. intelligence was spreading rumours that they would never bomb Dresden because Churchill had a family member living there . He knew all the Nazi generals would go there to hide etc
🤡
A crime against humanity! God bless those innocent german souls killed by evil!
cause and effect, there was a saying about eyes.... anyway a population complacent to mass murder will unavoidably see a return on their investment manifest. thou shall not kill means period! this is an example of cause and effect. the moment someone starts the evil cycle of violence it will build like a fire as long as people are there to fan the flames. of course its all horrible but evil begets evil remember that. anyone can be caught in the crossfire at any magnitude of evil not just the ones that are so massive they trick you into thinking this isn't part of human nature. This must be understood instead of talked down to. that mindset separates us from our recent ancestors and tricks us into believing the actions of the previous generation were that of some protohuman animal when they are the same people we are and the same people that will follow us. the next gen will sound off similar completely useless emotional sentiment about todays crimes and the cycle will continue because we are not trying to understand the complete nuanced details of a severely complicated situation. my point. everyones hands were in the cookie jar that year giving absolute condemnation to events that shaped exactly where everything lay in the present is just foolish. The point is to understand not condemn. and dont mistake understanding for justification. No killing is justified if you believe what human faiths have to say.
It was a war, and the german crime was not stopping their dictatorship from massacring people
@@somerandomboibackup6086 word
innocent? seriously?
@@Feroxing12 Yes. And Germany was trying to save Europe from the evils of Communism. So not only were we murdering innocent people here, we were murdering heroes
Arthur "Trollin" Harris 😎
Based Harris
Arthur RAF "litAF" Harris
...isn't a hero
You’re a literal horrible kid, no doubt you laugh at dismembered babies after an abortion
@@hardbassmonkey nah he’s a legend
Remember, that the same justification used here is what is justifying what is happening in occupied palestine.
What is “palestine”?
@@Marcus-sk2xfA country that existed long before the zionist state and occupation
My grandfather is literally OLDER than the zionist evil state
FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸
stfu absolutely cringe stupid take.....
Name the legend who captured this moment in air.
Army Film and Photographic Unit Number 5 Unit
Jimmy Stewart.
Chris Hansen
Lt. Col Shekelstein
No this was a full blown civilian population of 100k men women and children. This was an actual war crime and there were several of them
There was no civilian city in Germany during WW2, nor in Britain either for that matter. If a city was in military use and had military value, it was fair game.
London and several cities have been bombed too killing civilians..fair game tho
it's a legitimate target it has major railroad infrastructure it's being used as a staging ground the wehrmacht to do a counter attack on the soviets it also has a large industrial center making it a valid target to be bombed at
Your username really is a fake
Ok
Firebombing Dresden in WWII was a war crime
@@Eke1335But does that justify the bombing of innocents? I don't think it does.
And the Luftwaffe bombing London over and over and over was just oops we missed the air base again? The politicians and the Nazis were the real war criminals.
@@OhBoyOhBoy-er5ox London never got the treatment Dresden got, Hitler wasn't as cruel as Churchill.
LOLOL ... this is truly funny
@@seansmith445
Warsaw:
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Hey, shouldn't you and your "keyboard hero"-buddies be "keyboard bombing" Russia these days?
@@ralphbernhard1757 why you defending Russia.
@@dardick1213 Who is "defending Russia"?
@@dardick1213The Soviets did eighty per cent of the job on the battlefield - rather than killing women and children in their houses.
@@henryseidel5469
Bro got his history degree from Hearts of Iron IV 💀
I will Never forgive england for this
I will never forgive Germany for its crimes. Thanks G-d the Brits meted some retribution.
@@patriciabrenner9216 The Allies committed the same "crimes". So glad Ike bankrupted the UK.
But doubtless you will forgive Germany.
Lool
well the UK is going downhill by the week in terms of economics and such. I love Brexit
Well in Poland Warsaw was bombed to atoms, so Germany got payback with Dresden
This is why Europe will never have peace. Revenge thirsty and short sighted evil people like you. If you think revenge is a good recipe for war, you have learned nothing!
“An eye for an eye..”
Great comparison. Really dislike Polish keyboard warriors
@@Sexiestmanalive01 Nobody cares what you like or dont like
As a Belgian, I have not forgotten that our vasal troops followed the French into the occupation of the German industrial area 1921-23, to impose the impossible reparations decided at the Versailes Treaty 1919, which btw Maynard Keynes had run away from in dismay. We drove Germans into hyperinflation, hunger and political madness. The RAF started bombing German cities on 11th May 1940 and went on for 3 months before the Luftwaffe retaliated in August. Before WW I, we had British Mackinder geopolitics, French vengefulness (after they had lost the war they had declared on Germany 1870) and encirclement of Germany with Russia. Here, a few kilometers from Waterloo, I know about Napoleon killing millions all over Europe till 1815. Unforgotten is a British "peaceful" colonial supercilious attitude causing misery for millions of underlings on all continents. The US Empire has been bombing everywhere for 77 years now. Today, Poles are still thankful for the part of Germany given to them by the Russians, but complain about the Russian package settlement because they want more money. No need for a holier than thou attitude in any country, I dare say.
Dresden only had women and children 😢
Eye for an eye
And
Nazi had a army of women and children they can’t get bomb but the can charge is1
Falsch
And many refugees from the east fleeing from the Soviets.
Germany: “Where is Dresden?”
America: “Gone….reduced to atoms”
You Nephilim are sick
Why America……..it was the RAF that flattened Dresden. American B17 ‘light’ bombers just kept the rubble alight the next day.
This was one of the biggest crimes in history.
Idiotic thing to say
@@Sam-_- nope. Germany was defeated. They bombed for nothing. cultural destruction
True
@@alfons6350 You know that Dresden was bombed in Feb 15 and surrendered in May 7.
You know this is a crime against hummanity held by Allies.
“The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.”
@@Ectoplasm99999 doesnt justify anything. Killing innocent children and women is a crime and no silly speech will make a difference.
@@swagkachu3784 There is no such thing as war crimes, in every war there had been civilian casualties, read some history and you will see that since middle ages people was slaughtered during wars, war crimes are just fancy term to pretend that you are victim of war, during ww2 every nation who was at war made war crimes, Germany done with concentration camps, bombings, uk, Usa with bombings of german cities, Japanese with slaughtering people all over south east asia, Russia with rapes, executions.
@@swagkachu3784 they are not innocent because they identify as citizens of a nation that tried to commit genocide against everybody was not a white heterodegenerate KKKristian.
Same as what we did to the "Disarmed Enemy Forces"
Poles from No. 300 Polish Bomber Squadron led this glorious attack 💪💪💪
They remembered...
Deth and decay is absolutely a legit source for pride
@@TonyBMW It's a legit source of revenge.
@@patriciabrenner9216 stop trolling child
@@TonyBMW Stop defending criminals troll.
War crime
Eye for an eye
@@ISRAELLIBRE Churchill began civilian bombing in World War II.
@MarkHarrison733
This is completely wrong, because Germany bombed the Polish city of Wilun on September 1st, 1939.
@@ISRAELLIBRE J3w logic
@@ISRAELLIBRESo, raping and killing women and children is justice to you? Thats how I know I don’t worship the same God as you people.
they saw hell..existing on earth
Arthur “Airborne Cremation for the Aryan Nation” Harris
The Aryan nation had to be destroyed.
Arthur “doing the rounds with my 4000 pounds” Harris
Look at "England" nowadays, this Arthur fella must be very proud of his Airborne Cremation for the Aryan Nation legacy.
From the British perspective, all this started in late August 1940, the Germans veered off course and did not bomb the airfield they were aiming for due to low cloud cover. They ended up on the 24th August, bombing a civilian part of london. We a few days later launched a few attacks on Berlin. The first one on the 25th August did little damage, but the one on the 27th did more. I believe Hitler was not aware of the German accidental raid on British homes, so that is when he started his so called Blitzkreig on Britain and British cities. So a mistake caused all this mess and then the total war was declared afterwards when all out bombing was ordered. Sorry but it is on the internrt so please read it. The destruction of cities on an industrial scale in this war was unprecedented. Yes maybe Dresden was a war crime but so was Coventry, Rotterdam, Warsaw (twice), as well. Britsh, Polish, French, Dutch, and Belgian cities were flattened by the luftwaffe. The Russians got it bad also, with Stalingrad, the baltic states, Crimea, and even Moscow being hit. What's done is done, I would and do feel sorry for all those on all sides that were peace loving people thatgot cauggt up in the bombings, great tresures were lost forever, lots of lives too. We should now be in a posotion never to repeat this carnage.
@@discontinued12934 These civilians were accessories to mass murder and mass theft. Happy this lot paid.
@@discontinued12934 oh an antisemite. So banal among the German defenders.
@@patriciabrenner9216 we declared war on Germany as it was heading East completely in the opposite direction to us. Germany v ruthless Stalin and Communism was always going to kick off, we didn't need to get involved.
We lost the Empire, lots of the greatest generation and bankrupted ourselves to America. America then spent the next 70 years destroying traditional England with hypa Liberalism, Consumerism and open borders Globalisation.
@@patriciabrenner9216 🤡
British aims to kill civilians not armed soldier s
They defeated the civilians good job
They defeated a bunch of criminals.
@Cruzada Criolla okay nazi
@Pussyslayer69 what are you smoking??
@@patriciabrenner9216 Civilians were not criminals, are you stupid?
@Pussyslayer69
Actually not.
Due to German, Indian got independence and British Empire became quite weak 1:24
😂😂😂@@violentvikingsfan
@@qwei58 Sebastian Haffner is correct regarding Hitler's role in decolonisation.
@@MarkHarrison733 Wrong
@@Die-Sophie By ending colonialism forever he changed the world more than anyone since Alexander the Great.
@@MarkHarrison733 Thematic context?
Unfortunate, but so was Rotterdam and Warsaw.
you can't compare those to Dresden.
Warsaw and Rotterdam were legitimate military targets on the front line.
@@BPFACTS88 Germans did the worse. They deserved what they saw in Dresden. They got what they wanted.
@@BPFACTS88 the good thing is that they themselves started it. Germans must be the last to cry
@@Napolean45 that is not how it works. Do you really think that the citizens of Dresden start WW2?
That's how Stalingrad, Leningrad and all the cities west of Moscow were bombed
You are right but does not make undone allied war crimes on Dresden. All air raids against civilians and their cities were war crime. All over europe.
@@michaelengel3407 No crime in Dresden. Just crtiminals getting their punishment. And there were NO innocent German. None!
@@patriciabrenner9216 You are literally thinking like a nazi.
Of course there were innocents.
@@Megarip No they weren't. They were either murderers and thieves or accessories to mass murder and theft.
@@patriciabrenner9216 The Nazis did what the British Empire had done for centuries.
Vile and petty to say the least.
Why was this done? Germany was collapsing by this point, and from the looks of it, the bombers paid more attention to destroying historical buildings, not the industry that supplied the army.
Blame a certain one-balled Nazi with a funny mustache - no one else.
@@Bigfishfun333I blame the British
@@GeorgRv22 I Mr. one-ball hadn't decided he really wanted to take over the world, the British would not be bombing Germany at all. He's the worst human being of ALL TIME.
@@Bigfishfun333 More allied propaganda brainrot lol
@@Bigfishfun333what is terrorism? British empire killed 200 million people in india and Africa and other part of world is called real terrorism which your education system didn't tought you in history class because as winston churchill say "history is always written by the winners "
It was crime against humanity, most of victims were innocent children and women which nothing left from them but ashes.
There never was much sympathy for people who murdered entire towns and villages, who gassed children. There were no good Germans before mid May 1945.
Not like the Germans, right?
Like the extermination camps?
@@augnkn93043 Yeah that was a Soviet lie.
The same happened during the Blitz, my women and children buried under rubble.
Don't start fights.
The UK and France began both world wars.
@MarkHarrison733
Netter Witz, kleiner Neonazi! 😅
Pure evil, they were no better than the nazis with this war crime
They must be better because they errected a statue of Arthur Harris in London.
@@michaelengel3407 He was a hero. OTH all these German so called civilians were criminals.
@@michaelengel3407 Japan and Germany combined killed 60 million people, the western allies AT THE ABOSOLUTE WORSE, killed less than 5 million. Of course, that 5 million (which is EXTREMELY high-balling it) is still a lot, but Japan and Germany are way worse. Also, Many neo-nazis and Werahboos still idolize and spread myths about the werchmact and Nazi Regime. Meanwhile Japan, hasn't even legally regonized there war crimes.
You bloody dragged us back for a second time
Do you realise that the Nazi's concentration camps were still in full operation as this raid took place. Without raids like this, they would have continued.
R. I. P 😢 Gott mit uns.
More propaganda than you can shake a stick at.
Yup.
War crime.
What about French,British, Serbian, Greek and Soviet cities?
@@ww12exclusives69 war crime too.
The German people were Affiliates of the Nazi regime who Agreed on the "TOTALEN KRIEG"
meaning society as a whole worked for the German War Economy.
Therefor they gave up their title as Civilian and made them a legitimate target to stop the War Machine!!!
Or retaliation ?
What about the London Blitz? 30k dead there and most of it burned down. Just not all on the same night.
Arthur "Dropping Tallboys on Schoolboys" Harris
Arthur Harris was a war criminal for what he did. All evidence showed the German people were not giving up yet kept bombing civilian targets.
@Sebastokrator Greece should never have been invaded but it was not the Germans that invaded Greece, it was Mussolini with his big shot ego (Greco-Italian War of 1940). When he got into a mess he had to call on his German ally for help and as an ally they were obliged.
As for genociding slavs, that's not why Germany invaded Poland. Poland was invaded because of the Polish massacres of the ethnic German minority that lived in Poland. 58,000 were killed, many in the Bromberg massacre. You can read the details in the document released at the time titled "The
Polish atrocities against
the German minority in Poland", compiled by Hans Schadewaldt.
@@lovecraftcat Actually it sticked to the German criminals.
@@footballnick2 Shame he didn't have more white phosphorus.
@@footballnick2 what was he’s crime? Doing exactly what the Germans were doing all over Europe? It’s called total war my friend, fighting fire with fire. That is just the sad reality of war.
"do you feel like a hero yet?"
Just watched schindler's list for the first time. Had to search this video and watch it just to calm myself down.
Absolute war crimes!!
Beautiful.
They reap what they sow
Based
i think the same for all allied dead
And now Germany is the leader of the EU and the wealthiest Country in Europe.
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@@kayvan671 Germanys economy surpassed the UKs by 1950 and has been ever since.
As a Brit I'm glad the empire died along with the war but I'm struggling to see your point in being wealthy?
80 years later, nothing changes. Despite the laws of war seemingly drawing a distinction between civilian and military, we still want to neatly pack both into "good guys" & "bad guys", and justify crossing those lines.
@@patriciabrenner9216 Ach halt die Goschen Patricia hast doch echt kein peil wovon du redest
@@sleepydog4205 speak a civilized language which means not German.
@@patriciabrenner9216 shut up human-nematode
@@patriciabrenner9216 be quite you limey animal. england will pay for its crimes
@@patriciabrenner9216crimes like colonized India for centuries or stolen gold from Africa and enslaving them? Or destroying Iraq, no mass weapons found.
Or occupied Ireland and destroyed them and wiped mostly the language out?
You british shouldn’t talk about morality, you are war criminals too.
Blair Too and same for you other prime ministers
Its one crime against humanity!
Its retribution. Thank you Bomber Harris
Happens
@@patriciabrenner9216
Calm tf down, Troll.
Unfortunately you must fight fire with fire in some circumstances, when you face a war machine that wont quit and wants to drag the world down with it, you must take steps no matter how hard in order to win and stop evil from prevailing.
@@TheDeepState2001 Nope doesn't work against a dictatorship with its members deep down under inside bunkers. This was very unneccesary bloodshed. You also try to make it look like 1945 Germany wasn't already down on its knees.
Arthur ‘Straight Trollin’ ‘Em’ Harris
Arthur "bankrupting fire insurances since 1945" Harris
Arthur “my grandkids are brown” Harris
@@mrmackey8776Arthur “Fascist cope and seethe” Harris
@@windbuster Arthur “my country is now Pakistan 2.0” Harris
@@mrmackey8776 Arthur “Gercucks mad since 1945” Harris
Dresden was a sanctuary city for refugees from the war across Central Europe and Eastern Europe and Germany . Rare to see the film of a genocide . Disturbing.
Sanctuary? The city had just not got bombed yet, and it's luck eventually ran out. When it did It was not a genocide, not even a massacre or a warcrime - it was WW2 style city bombing as usual.
I notice less and less Russians in the comments complimenting their "best friends" for acts like Dresden...
*I wonder why?*
Maybe because they realize these same hypocritical friends complimenting them today, would glady nuke them tomorrow accompanied by disgusting slurs and jeers...
Sanctuary for criminals you mean.
Genocide? I don't recall watching a film of concentration camps.
@@patriciabrenner9216 Once again, Patricia deciding who deserves what.
war crime
Eye for an eye
@@ISRAELLIBRE
*_"Eye for an eye"_*
This is not a solution either because in the end only blind people remain.
@@ISRAELLIBRE See why Lehi and the Irgun bombed the Allies during World War II.
shut up and play your minecraft lil boy this discussion aint for you
I just saw photos of the aftermath, and OMG the burnt up families
Not worse than the families murdered by Ziklon b in Aushwitz... Or by fire in the East. These Germans were all accomplices. So at least this lot paid.
@Herr Sivula Oh an antisemite. So banal!
@@patriciabrenner9216 every country involved in ww2 commited warcrimes, doesnt mean that its the civilians fault
@@sway9725 Actually no. The criminals who committed war crimes were the German and their allies. All the rest was retribution. And not enough!
@@mathiasvries false. It is now documented that the vast majority knew!
They wanted total war, and they got it. Some call it a "war crime", i call it pest extermination
They did not “want total war.” The Allies declared war on Germany, not the other way around.
Germany offered several peace offerings to Britain in 1940 with pretty generous terms. The terms were that Germany leaves France and Belgium but keeps Alsace-Lorraine, and Britain gets to keep all of its colonies, but the Allies can’t intervene in the Eastern War.
Britain refused every single peace offering. They even imprisoned one of the German diplomats for 40 years after the war until he killed himself.
Now who were the warmongers?
@@staticsnow22 germany invaded poland, forcing britain and france to join the war due to their defense pact
@@destroyer1667 Yet they didn’t declare war on the USSR. 🤔
Not to mention, Germany sent several peace offerings to Britain with quite generous terms: Britain gets to keep all its colonies but can’t intervene in the Eastern War, and Germany leaves France and Belgium but keeps Alsace-Lorraine like before WWI.
But Britain refused every single one.
And who were the warmongers?
@@staticsnow22 it would be unfeasible to wage a war against both, Germany and the USSR simultaneously so they went for the bigger threat, especially since invading Poland was germanys plan in the first place, the USSR just played along. Also, britain shouldn't accept peace offerings that leave its ally, poland, without their land. The only peace would be germany stopping all war they are waging and leaving all territory they are occupying. And they had to be bombed to oblivion to do that
@@destroyer1667 Right. So an extremely complicated situation in Eastern Europe, where West Prussia, full of ethnic Germans, was given to a new Polish nation so it could have access to the sea. In addition, German citizens of Poland were being severely mistreated and sometimes had their villages raided and massacred by Poles, but that never makes it into the history books.
Either way, some arbitrary borders drawn up by Britain and France in the 1910s was worth sacrificing tens of millions of lives and countless historical structures over? Absolutely not
Potpuno opravdano i zasluženo✅
Most moral coalition of the world...
The other coalition was pretty immoral so yeah
You need to read Slaughterhouse Five to get an idea of the horrors that occurred that night in Dresden. It was an industrial War Crime that mirrors a nuclear strike.
Nope. It's called TOTAL WAR. It's what they asked for.
So what?
I live near Dresden and eveyone has moved on.
We know why all of this happend.
@@mrbreeze40
We didn't ask for it.
But we still started it.
So nobody should complain nowadays!
Goebbels speech declaring total war and mustering the Volkssturm extended the war. Even when defeat was inevitable in Berlin they still fought on and killed nearly 100,000 Soviet soldiers before capitulation.
@@mrbreeze40
Was it worth is?
No.
It’s not a war crime if you win 😎
Goering & Co did their fair share of such things when they could pull it off. No war crime charges against them thereof.
It's not a war crime if it do not violate one or more relevant laws of war.
All German and British city's found worth the effort and cost to bomb was valid military targets during WW2
It wasn't a war crime tho
It‘s not a war crime to bomb a whole big City with thousands of civilized that lost their homes and Lifes in one single night? 25.000 people died on that bombs and this is not a war crime?
@@sefyude6967
It was done in the 1940's, so it was not a war crime. Back then such things were not only legal acts of war, but war business as usual by anyone with an air force that could pull it off. Basically, any defended city that had military use and value was fair game to bomb.
Area bombing of cities was outlawed as late as the 1980,s, well after carpet bombing by large formations of planes went out of military fashion. It's still legal to nuke a city and its citizens to oblivion though, if it comes too that
@@GabrielAugustomisterkakuna that’s because they won
Pure terror.
Terror for terrorists...
Vous avez raison
Une Terreur non légitime
Détruire une ville Hôpital sans industrie en 1945 avec des réfugiés
Aucun objectif militaire juste la terreur
Cela n'excuse pas les crimes nazis
The world was forever changed. The horrors of modern war.
Are you pro-nazi bro?
Next one will be of serious magnitude.. It will make World War 1 and 2 look like skirmishes ..🤔🙄
@@garydixon6315 And Russia is still going to win.
@@Attmay Russian tanks are overwhelmed with the sheer force of Ukrainian tractors. 😁 🟡🔵
@@jackofalltrades9839 It's the ''Allies'' helping!
I would not want to be down there
This is unbearable to watch.
Sh*t i wouldnt want to be down there but this is why rules of engagement has change.
Good point ....
We learn from the past and strive to do better in the future ....
One more reason for the accurate and nuanced teaching of history ...
Simply a war crime commentated in a propaganda clip.
„Truth is the first thing that dies in a war.“
The truth died when the second human on earth was born
This was a war crime
No, it was proper retribution.
@@patriciabrenner9216 germans reaped what they sow. They forced this on themselves. I hope they learned once for all.
@@Napolean45not the civilians who were being mind controlled by nazi propaganda, most had no clue how cruel the nazi regime was. this was a poor payback, but it is war afterall.
This is based. Fire and blood came to Germany
Nah its a reminder of what could happen if we were as evil as our enemies.
That is break the heart , many civilians died
Very few compared to the number murdered by the Germans.
@@patriciabrenner9216 The Germans did not kill any civilians at all.
Kurt Vonnegut was a POW working in Dresden. “On about February 14th the Americans came over, followed by the R.A.F. their combined labors killed 250,000 people in 24 hours and destroyed all of Dresden-possibly the world’s most beautiful city. But not me.”
Kurt Vonnegut was a Nazi propgandist. The actually deaths were less than 30,000.
25,000 - maybe 30,000
My father was in the Royal Artillery during the war, based on the Thames estuary for the early part of London bombing. He saw flames coming up from the area he and his family lived. He was in London, at a command post, during a raid. He helped with casualties after the raid. He was against carpet bombing and especially incendiary bombing. After the war, he read up on the bombing of Hamburg, Berlin and Dresden. He was appalled. He knew what bombing did to children, women and men. When stationed at a bomber base in East Anglia he spoke with the ground crew, and was told the pilots called what they were doing, APC bombing, i.e. aiming point cathedral. They seemed ashamed of what they were doing. We can appreciate the bravery and self-sacrifice of the airplane crews, especially given the casualty rate, which they were well aware of, but at the same time not rejoice in those they incinerated. Read Lowe's book on the Hamburg bombing, Inferno. Well named.
How ignorant can a man be? Your father watched as the Luftwaffe burned out Coventry and London and was appalled at Dresden. Your father was a moral idiot.
There's a description of the March 1945 bombing of Tokyo in the book Flyboys that caused me to have nightmares a few days after reading it. Really horrible.
There’s a reason there was no Bomber Command medal after WW2
Hitler hoped/tried to make SLAVES out of all humanity that was not a proper Aryan. He had to be stopped - humanity depended upon it.
Well we see now what the Allies actually were, and still are; Gaza says it all!!!
Despite what we may think of this today, the fact is that most people at the time thought that the Germans were getting their comeuppance for the Blitz on the East End, and the heavy bombing of other British cities: from Exeter to Glasgow, Belfast to Liverpool - they all got hit. To this we can add Rotterdam, Antwerp, Warsaw, French towns by the score, and Russian villages by the hundreds. Apart from a few hand-wringing Bishops, most people thought: "Well, they started it, and this is how we end it."
Edit: I should add that no one in my family at least, or amongst school friends, took any pleasure in seeing the after-effects of the bombing campaign when many of us finally saw it for the first time on the "World at War" TV series in 1973. The film footage was grisly, but it was also shocking to hear from the survivors of these raids.
As the old saying goes, two wrongs don't make a right. Also from a purely artistic and historic perspective, Dresden was without doubt the finest neoclassical city ever built, the accomplishment of the Electors of Saxony. The beauty of the city was far beyond anything comparable in England. Bombing it was a disgrace and Churchill knew it.
Killing civilians and especially cultural heritage in a pure act of vengeance is wrong, no matter who does it.
@@shantyclips6358 - there were plenty of military targets in Dresden.
@@28pbtkh23
IT WAS IN FEBRUARY 1945!!!
@@shantyclips6358 - correct, but the Allies were still losing troops at the rate of 10,000 per month. The Russians were probably losing more than that. Stalin had asked Britain and America if we could bomb Dresden as the city was being used as a transport hub to ferry troops to the Eastern front. So we helped him out. Dresden was not a revenge raid: it had a purpose. There were also over 120 factories in Dresden that contributed to the war effort. So the reasoning was this: every effort must be made to destroy Germany's war-making capability. It's easy to say in hindsight that they were wrong.
نفس الابادة تتكرر في غزة من طرف الاحتلال .محزن ومخزي للبشرية
How is Dresden a genocide Dresden was a legitimate target. For one it was home to a railway center that sent supplies to the eastern front or were the Soviets were fighting the German’s. Two Dresden also had factories and arms production there. If you wanna use this as an example of what’s going on in Palestine you should research it even the Soviets supported it.
@@omwando1why kill civilians during ut there were better ways to handle this matter
Een oorlogsmisdaad, deze keer van geallieerde zijde.....
No just bombing.
De geneva conventie kwam pas 1949 maat
Crime.
Can you tell me why?
@@somerandomboibackup6086 Bruh?
@@NoNamePerson98 bruh what?
🤡
The WW1 zeppelin raids on the UK were the first bombing campaign targeting civilians. This was carried on into WW2 by the Nazis via Spain, while they committed numerous war crimes with the support of their people and army including systematically murdering whole populations. The air campaign was one of the few ways the west could hit back and its technology was limited. The regret of Dresden was that it wasn’t needed and sullies the reputation of the forces that carried it out.
who were the nazis exterminating before the fire bombings?
It is unbelievable how those terrorists are calling arabs "bombers"
Who would be the terrorists? The Nazis and their allies like Haj Amin al Husseini?
So he had no fans in America?@@patriciabrenner9216
@@aurelianxcbd7799 There were pro Nazis in America in the 30s. But no allies of Haj Amin al Husseini specifically.
‘ magnificent bombing shots ‘ how sick and deranged
So what?
More like based and justified
A whole city in flames…………
Dresden was one big flame.
more then 200,000+ dead.
Not in Dresden.
"Only" 40k.
And all of Germany 500k.
@@FriedTurkey Well exactly what they did in Auschwitz.
@@FriedTurkey
Records have shown otherwise.
Dude, i live near Dresden.
We know the real numbers.
And i already wrote them.
Based, more should have died.
@@yourmotherisshameful
Calm tf down
I used to defend the carpet bombing of German cities as entirely justified. As I've aged, I'm now entirely convinced it was a war crime. Deliberately targeting civilians is either wrong for everyone or it's wrong for no-one.
That said, I don't blame the airmen one bit. I'd like to think I'd have even half their courage and would do exactly the same as they did if I were in their shoes.
This was not just a random attack, this was specifically to relieve the USSR of the reinforcements that Germany were providing from Dresden, it was purely strategic and prevented so many Russian deaths. A country that bombs London cannot claim to be a victim when their military targets get firebombed. Next time, don’t have your families next to your military workplace, or preferably, just surrender.
@@XXXTENTAClON227 I don't think "well the Nazis did it too" is much of a defence against anything. As a rule, you should try to do the opposite of any evils the Nazis did. And "civilians got in the way of our bombs" is also pretty weak. If you follow this logic, why didn't we carpet bomb Baghdad or Kabul like we bombed Berlin and Hamburg? And why only burn and explode them? Why not poison the water supply? It'd kill just as many workers and probably save the lives of many of our bomber crews. It's psychopathic.
@@XXXTENTAClON227 I've got a better one. Why not demoralise the enemy by targeting their schools? Depressed munitions workers are unproductive workers.
It was perfectly justified.
The war was nearly at an end, the allies knew that dresden had no stratigic value, the narrator in the video lied when he says dresden was being used to pump German troops into counter attacks against Russia, there was no German troops, the allies knew this. And they knew the city was jam packed with hundreds of thousands of refuges, the bombing of dresden was one of the greatest war crimes of the war and the deliberate vengeful mass murder of German civilians,, for which no one was made to answer for, the man who ordered the bombing was air marshal Tedder and he should have been tried as a war criminal.
Source?
Do you genuinely believe that Dresden was one of the greatest war crimes? By that logic every bombing raid carried out by both Axis and Allied forces could be considered a war crime
@@JustinHH22это военное преступление, идиот
Churchill was a deeply racist masonic Zionist scumbag.
Eye for an eye