How To Pack Your Bags For Bikepacking
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- We don't tend to think about how we pack our bags when going on a trip, but if you're bikepacking it's absolutely vital that all the bags on your bike are packed correctly. Josh runs through his top tips for packing when going bikepacking.
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Once you've decided on what kit you need to bring with you on your bikepacking trip, you'll need to have a proper think about the order and placement of all your things on your bike. If the weight isn't distributed correctly your bikes handling can be quite considerably affected. For example you want your heaviest items to go in a frame bag as the weight is the most central, and the lowest possible on the bike.
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Do you have any bag packing tips you want to share? Let us know!
Mug on seatbag: practicool
You should have discussed about installation of rear bike rack and pannier packing.....so that even a tour of more than one day can be covered easily......and the mention of the fact that 40:60 ratio must be maintained for weight distribution in rear and front respectively....
Where did you leave your bike box?
just take a backpack like this one: www.ortlieb.com/de/Velocity/
bonus tips: if you have aero bars, you can keep a small bag between them with small/ quick access items, letting place on the top tube for the mattress. bottles on the fork balance the bike ant les you put a full frame bag, wich is way bigger. some saddle bags include a rigid horisontal support that lower the bag and reduce ''swing''. NEVER take a backpack heavier than a kilo, after a couple of days your knees, back and hips will tell you. its also good to keep tools and a spare tube close, as searching them can add a lot of stress in case of a mecanic in a no man land...
*I did my last overnight Bike & Camp in jeans and a T-Shirt on a heavy bike with panniers.*
*Moral of this is don't get too caught up in having the right gear or looking the part just go out there and enjoy*
True I prefer real touring bikes and regular clothes too. 2400 miles on flat pedals thank you
I mean being well prepared makes it 10x easier to enjoy than having to deal with things cause a person decided to procrastinate or their to cool to get "all that lame cycling gear" I mean my ass has no problem with some nice padding from the chamois and not having to worry since I brought the right shit and my personal pride didn't get in my way. Pride that's the one thing that's going to fuck you over in the long run
My first bike packing trip was in 92 I think, gear stuffed into a kwicksave bag and tied onto a rear rack, no tent or sleeping pad just a cheap sleeping bag and some clothes, it was the summer though. I have a photo somewhere.
Aero schoolboy error - inside of mug facing into the wind creating a wind scoop. Watt a diference it makes ;)
shenava If you put it the other way round you end up with shit in yer mug. Josh has clearly been there...
😮
"Watt a difference" I see what you did there, pun point awarded!
Wouldn't placing your toilet paper roll wrong be more of a number 2 lesson?
😵
LOL
I'm an experienced outdoorsman and I have to say you're running a pretty spartan setup here. One thing you should consider is your morale; Make sure you're equipped to have a nice time not just on the bike but off it as well. For example, I like to bring a book, a card game if traveling with others, some extra tasty food, some flip flops so I can give my feet a rest at the end of the day, a flask of whisky, that sort of thing.
I'd also recommend skipping the expensive titanium spork and going for a plastic spoon and chopsticks. Maybe a small plastic bowl too; I've burned myself many times trying to eat out of a cooking dish. Spend the extra 9g, honestly
Love that you are doing this bike-packing/gravel special!
The real question I keep asking myself though is:
When will we be able to get a hold of those fetching not-quite-baggy shorts?
They're Assos and can be found on the Assos site, although without the GCN logo!
Hey Acoustic Gearhead, thanks! Keir has got it right there, they are on the ASSOS website. They were branded with the GSN logo as a one-off 👍
Exactly what you need for bikepacking: an aero bike with carbon hoops.
While that ain't my first choice of bike (but feel free to give me one ;-) it shows that many bikes can be used for touring -- you don't HAVE to have a Surly Long Haul Trucker to see the world. I would, however, suggest decent tire clearance (at least 38s and preferably wider) for touring, and sorry, as uncool as it might seem to some, FENDERS, unless you are doing real, technical trails where you'd lack proper clearance because of using yet WIDER and more knobby tires. Getting debris jammed between the two or packing up with sticky "peanut butter mud" can put a real damper on your day, as a four-letter-word-emitting friend found out when clearance on her bike was too tight for the clay we rode through.
Not being covered in a bunch of mud at the end of a day when there are no showers and you have to crawl inside your sleeping bag is worth all the judgement from fenderless, grit-covered cool-guys/gals and weight-weenies.
haha
Lawrencium not real touring. Fad packing.
What about a bike lock
Bikepacking is mostly camping, I doubt anyone is gonna steal your bike. Anyway, what would you lock it around?
For bike touring though it might be more useful.
The Safeman cable lock is compact and relatively lightweight (costs about 22 euros) and if your friend has one too, you can combine the locks
Ya don’t need it when you’re backpacking
Bikepacking
@@kelvinyonger8885 I try to lock my bike to trees...
Global bikepacking network?
Yes please
OH YES.
Yes!
I'm hoping this becomes a thing
Yeaaah
A golden tip I found elsewhere here on UA-cam is, whenever you look for something in your bags / panniers while out on a trip and manage to find it on a different one, consider moving it to the first place you thought it was, as it is already etched in your mind. I applied it on the last trips I took using a more traditional touring setup and, simple as it is, it really helped me define places for the weird bits like toilet paper or my buff. Also, please make Global Bikepacking Network a thing!
What about first aid kit?
Important
Rain keeps the blood away
Gaffa tape and bog roll and some paracetamol, all go in my toiletries bag. That's all my first aid kit.
frame bag / top tube bag
Good idea... I gotta get me one of those first aid kits...
Josh is a natural in front of the camera. More from him, please :)
"I'm not cool."
he needs to calm down though...
@@Niskiss it was all the coffee ;-)
MidtownSkyport Yeah, that coffee gag was dead natural 🤣
One essential item I did not see is BABY WIPES, believe me nothing worst trying to sleep in a sleeping all dirty and sweaty.
I usually pack 2 per day (they are critical, but for other reasons, and remember an empty plastic bag to go along!).
The weight of wipes can really add up. For simply getting clean, it's best at a water source (eg: when you find a gas station or restaurant, or at campsite with water). In that case + wash cloth that gets re-used and wringed dry. If no water is available, a small vial of camping soap can take the place of water and help knock off any dirt before getting into sleeping bag liner
Baby wipes are my must have on my superdeluxe toilet kit. I go feeling dirty, and return feborn 👌
9:25 „... doing a Tom Dumoulin“ that poor guy will never get rid of that.
love it that the expression is part of the lingo now.
I think we’ve now reached the point where we can just abbreviate it. “Hold up, I gotta pull off for a quick TD”. 😁
I know bikepacking is very much in vogue at the moment, but could you do a series in bike touring (.inc camping) at some point? Feeling a bit left out! Cheers :)
Hey Tom, great idea, it's certainly something we can look into
Hey guys, don't quite understand the "bike packing" frenzy here... Tis as been on for ages ! Why not just mount a rear rack when you go on a trip and rear bags on each side, so that you have more room for stuff and save money compared to your setting here... I'd really like to get your thoughts on this.
My thoughts exactly, until I searched for a rack for a carbon frame. My only options for rear racks are (1) a "beam rack" that don't have good side guards to stop your panniers from bashing into your rear wheel; (2) an over-designed expensive carbon frame rack, that doesn't fit other panniers bags.
How hard is it for frame builders to add some rack eyelets to a carbon frame?
@@chicofoxo It makes sense. And now that I've been driving around in the country side, I saw that people with panniers tend to fill them up, bloating there bags and going slowly whereas bikepacking is more about minimalism I guess, allowing you to go just about anywhere, as you would do without, but with a decent amount of stuff to sleep in the wild for instance...
I tried a bunch of different setups on a bunch if different bikes. I wouldnt concider myself experienced by any stretch but I would never go without a hydration bladder. Water is just just too important in order to have a good time both on and off the bike. If you dont finnish the entire bladder you will have some warm water to clean yourself with as you change your clothes
I would ditch the bottle cages and bottles on these bikes, aswell as the front bag and let the hydration bladders pack and one of those large triangular framebags pick up the slack
I would not want to sleep on the ground after lots of hours in the saddle. Treat yourself to a hammock a decent one is only a couple of hundred grams. Never underestimate the value of a good nights sleep if you are riding the next morning. Oh and bring a lightweight multitool with pliers and a a knife or scissors. Paired with your bike specific tools you can improvise a fix for most thingsusing that.
Assuming there are trees where you are camping (for your hammock).
Small front and rear Panniers are my choice. Thanks guys for the video,I just don't like the seat post method.
That's cool - you can certainly fit a bit more in panniers!
@@gcn but nowhere near as trendy and en vogue. I will stick with them though. No weight distribution or access to kit issues.
Wow, some really useful information here! 👍
I've been thinking about bike packing lately, due to Covid-19 restricting overseas holidays. I think bike packing would be a perfect local holiday and probably a covid-safe way of exploring the local region (Victoria, Australia in my case).
ha, what's with the toptube bag hate? it's my favourite bag on my bike
I run a very identical bikepacking setup with few minor differences:
1. a small tent goes into the frame bag, in addition to tools and spare tubes.
2. Contrary to Josh, I prefer as little weight as possible up front (better handling), so I pack all my clothes into the seat post bag with the exception of sleeping bag and mat that go onto the handlebars.
3. I ride a small sized frame, so often I do not have space within the frame for 2 water bottles. Instead you can duck tape (or zip tie) old-style water bottle cages (like the ones on Si's bike) on the fork blades.
How is your pot attached to the seat bag? Looks like some type of strap. Is it commercially available? I’ve always found the pot difficult to pack on the bike.
I was wondering same thing? anyone?
What about my drug paraphernalia, where do i stuck those?
Damn, the knee thing was a good tip - I just got back from riding across Germany. I had to carry a lot in my rear bag and it did swing quite a bit despite the straps being as tight as I could pull them. Will try that next time.
Rhys Howell A great top tip from Josh!
7:09 "Am I allowed to stick that in there as well?" "You can fit it wherever you want" HAAAAH!!
It's easier to bikepack with a kickstand. Depending on how much water and gear you are carrying, your bike can be close to 40-50 lbs. It will save you energy having to lift your bike up off the floor so many times.
Great vid, usefull informations. Thank you and greetings from Magdeburg/Germany. God bless you.
Bruh just put a rear rack and trunk bag. This is a waste of time
Adding a 15lt backpack to my 2 main back and front bags makes the perfect setup as i cant't live without my camelbak. 2 bags 1 backpack and im set for a full week!
Putting your TP in an accessible spot? Wouldn't that be more like the "number 2" lesson you learn?
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The quality of GCN content these days is phenomenal. Josh is a natural. Really great work all. Thank you.
James Anderson Thanks James, always great to hear such amazing feedback!
Josh organised his bags for a rear spoiler effect. That way he can descend at higher speeds and make car noises while he rides.
4:20 legit coffee sip
i have a question, how do you go to a grocery store when bikepacking solo, do you remove all the bags when leaving the bike, seems like a lot of work (and carrying all those bags in a store isn't ideal), but leaving it is quite risky.
use a small cafe lock cable , can thread it through all main bag openings.
I just brought my first real bike and I find biking SO ADDICTIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
what shorts are you guys wearing?
shity and complicated set up, judt get a propper saddlebag for the rear and downhill like crazy
Would you go for a 6 or a 8L handlebar bag? :D
Cheers.
If you can afford a bike that like, you can also afford to buy new clothes and a mug in every town you stop at.
he didn't pay for that bike.
I don't think you understand bike enthusiast logic: you have a bike like that because you don't spend money on clothes and mugs. And all of the money coming in is going towards your next home or accessory purchase
What bike are they ?
How heavy is the road bike after packing?
OP04player 11kg?
J S how can you be so sure? Did you just guess?
Yeh that's my guess
The full weight is the combined weight of the bike plus the weight of the gear and bags, minus the buoyant force of any helium or hydrogen you happen to have loaded.
Ok so where do you put your tent? Sounds like Ray Mears ( camped out wild) v Bear Grills ( hotel every night)😕
Its pretty amazing you guys can produce so much content from just a simple machine.
Bikepacking bags are so useful, I love them. Even got the same model as you, Si. I find this seat bag extremely convenient when commuting on my gravel bike - no sweaty back from wearing a backpack, no heavy rack.
Jakub Zgutka awesome!
what's the brand?
I’d get my missis to pack that for me the way she packs the freezer, and there would be extra space.
Wish I knew this before I went on my france trip... I had 30 kilos on the back. Wasn't fun to climb the alpes with. Pff
Tobias Bouma Hopefully your next trip will be more enjoyable!
I had no worries climbing the St Bernard Pass with over 30 kilos on the bike but going downhill into Italy was terrifying.
LOL! I had around 25kg on my first trip trying out my panniers. I am still proud that i managed to climb 120m elevation in a 3km stretch of road without a break. 30kg in the Alps sounds RIDICULOUS XD
This is the type of experiences that teaches that ultralight is the only acceptable option...
@@terencecass7735 I love that run down into Aosta
Did you take any casual shoes? And, if so, where did you pack them ?
If you ask me, panniers are essential for a nice comfortable trip, where you have plenty of space for everything you need, and a few "comfort items". Those smaller bags are mostly for people who want to go as far as possible in a day - although some of them make a great addition to panniers, and they are also perfect for daytrips.
I REALLY like ultralight gear and all that stuff - but as many ultralight backpackers have come to realize; the weight is only one of the factors for how enjoyable the trip will be. I like to have enough room for my a tent, sleeping bag (or quilt), sleeping pad, cookset, food, water, waterfilter, monocular, video-glasses, battery banks, solar panels, GPS, and maybe some clean clothes. And if i had a hammock from "hummingbird hammocks", id bring it in addition to my tent, as well as on daytrips.
What shorts are you using?
Such a great help! Planning a bike packing trip of my own. Thanks for the tips!
My bike wears her paint scuffs with honor she's a well loved road partner not a garage ornament!
Both these guys are articulate presenters. How rare!!!! Somin really is great in front of the camera: he's funny; doesnt interrupt his guest; his comments ADD to the guest's info, for expansion of emphasis.
Now you have to come out and enjoy the the Great Divide Mountain Bike Route. This will determine if you are ready for bike packing.
i have the same tires on my touring bike :)
but i just throw everything into a 40L rear rack bag and tie a 2-man camping tent on top of it
What rear rack bag are/were you using?
What tires? Also what bike are they using ?
@@sventice The rack is Topeak Super Tourist Uni;
The bag was "500 double rear pannier bike bag" from Decathlon. Now i'm using two separate 15l bags, 13$ each, also from Decathlon, called "100 rear pannier bag" :) their 15l bags are far more comfortable, because they hang further from my legs and i can't hit them with a leg accidentally.
@@JGstunts22 Continental SpeedKing 2.2. It's one of the most "road" tires for mountain bikes. On the offroad it's not a competitive racer, but doesn't force you to dismount on sand or mud, because of it's wideness.
Don't know anything about their bike
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Brilliant video. Been trying to find this sort of thing with a great level of detail everywhere. Thank you GCN
Tommy Harrold Glad we could be of help!
Those setups are incredible.. love it.. :)
TheOneGoodRoad Cheers!
Try two Carradice Camper Longflap Saddlebags you can use one as a Handle bar roller pack..and the other as your saddle bags...
Try the Woho Bikepacking Seatbag Stabilizier if you suffer from waggly seatpack syndrome.
Carridice do a larger 16l saddle bag. Very sturdy and long lasting. SQR Tour and Slim.
Global Bikepacking Network please and thank you!
Just noticed litterally how MASSIVE these tires are on this 'roadbike' holy crap!
Hi,
Which bag sizes did you use in the video?
Thanks,
Fuck u m8
I had my sleeping bag+bivy rolled in one go to fit in the handlebar bag: if rolled correctly it fits in one go and you get a consistent width and you don’t want to open and close it all the time...
Future presenter in our midst.
im not convinced about these frame bags, are they really better than a rack and rear panniers ??
One thing I've learned after bikepacking 1000s of miles . Don't tell anyone how to pack there bike . Different Spokes for different folks.
GCN: Wanna go out and see the country? Be one with nature and really get back to your primitive roots? Easy! Just load your multi-$1000 bike, with $100s of dollars of bags to hold several $100 more in ultralight camping equipment. Oh...and dont forget to make sure your bike doesn’t get any scuffs!
Come on man...lol
The REI Link 11L seat pack that I bought slaps the back of my legs. Do all seat mounted bags do that? It’s not a workable solution.
Bikepacking is the best! I did a solo bikepacking trip, 3,000km through Norway last year. Highly recommendable despite rather wet and cold conditions at times. For inspiration, tips, bag setup and pictures of my bike and beautiful Norway, please have look at my bikepacking blog: norwaybikepacking.wordpress.com/
Stop It with dumuolin jokes ffs!
What sort of weight in kg's would a safe load be for bikepacking? (Bike = ? Bags = ?)
Any reason you guys didn't cover panniers/racks for longer trips? or is that not considered "bikepacking"?
I think I saw a passport, which is usually in a place we can easily access, for many reasons (hotel registration, ID, securing it on person when away from the bike). Common sense right, I think. I would add - from experience to place such documents into a small waterproof bag. I have had a passport get waterlogged once, and since that time my new shiny "replacement" lives in a waterproof bag. Just a thought.
Hello
Whats the name of your bibs in this video? How can i find this type of bibs? The loose type one? Sorr yfor my english :D :D
Hey guys. What are those semi-baggie shorts you’re wearing? I like them. Where can I get a pair? Thanks!
I am amazed people don’t pack more items in order of use. For example on your seat bag put your sleeping bag/quilt in first, then add pillow and mat/pad, then your tent or bivy andon top of it last items in might be a light cook kit and down/warm layers. When first at camp you put on your down layers then setup camp in the order items come out in. Tent. Pad. Quilt. In the AM you reverse the order for packing. And up front carry a bar bag with clothes and personal items you take with you in shops etc.
What about food? You have cooking system but no food packed?
A good rucksack you can strap around your waist would be good for bulkier items like sleeping bags
Love the content, doing my first overnight trip soon! What wheels and tires are you guys running?
"How to Pack Your Bags for Attempting to Escape Neoliberal Capitalism"
I got an old 80s Bianchi and I have to ask - how the hell do you fit a bar bag between the handle bars? I just got a Blackburn 11L bar bag and it barely fits between my bars with nothing in it. Are these newer bar frames wider then the older ones? Thinking about getting flat bars instead of drops.
So would you not wear clipless shoes and pedals while bike packing?
Hello, I am looking for small reflective triangle as on saddle bag. Can anyone know where to buy it?
I'm not particularly cool too, but I want my camping mug to be visible as well. 😎😁
It seems strange that bikepackers often eschew a good old MTB pack with a bladder- works to carry a bit of kit/gear and have something to hike with when needed
Why are bar bags, and large saddle bags so popular now, as opposed to rear panniers, and front fork bags? Surely the lower center of gravity, of the latter, would be safer.
I know this may be a tad unrelated, but I really like these cycling shorts, not too tight, and more suitable to an urban venture, which makes me wonder if they would be available in your store?
Why not use the old school panniers
I agree, I don't understand the current craze about these packs. Panniers are much more stable, stronger, and keep the weight lower.
Either they're lighter and more aero, or they're just more fashionable right now and people want to look cool. Don't worry, those vintage panniers will be back in style in a few years ;)
When I tour I use old skool panniers and a klik fix rapid removal bar bag (keep all valuables and other bits in there). Having so much weight on the rear does effect the handling though and so for my next one im going to lighten up the rear with one of those frame bags as they look like a bit of no brainer to me., possibly a smaller top tube bag as well. That saddle pack they got, dont like the look of that at all.
GCN did a video on step dynamics of panniers, bike packing kit and rucksacks. Panniers created significantly more drag than anything else. Bikepacking kit was almost on par with the control of not carrying anything. Look the video up it was interesting.
When riding fully off road bike packing bags are much stronger than a metal rack being pounded by the load. Also much narrower so better on single-track, won't hit rocks or bushes.
That mug is facing the wrong direction, its acting like a parachute ;)
how would you transport a tent?
I'd strap it to the handlebar bag personally. Would have to be super small and lightweight.
Yup I have a 2 person that is perfect all the cloth bits and stakes are in a waterproof cinch sac the size of a bar bag while the poles and ground cloth can easily be strapped to the top tube helps if you split it between 2 bikes.
Inside their support vehicle.
It's nice that the deeply unfashionable cycle touring sub sport has had a fashionable rebrand and you can get a a snappy set of handbags to strap to your trendy gravel bike. But seriously get a set of panniers additional a few more items and go in comfort and go for way longer
So true, a little more effort riding and slightly less distance coverd each day is worth the extra days you can comfortably spend in the middle of nowhere finding yourself.
Using that logic why not go the whole hog and get a trailer? Then you can carry so much more. Sometimes people miss the point. Challenge yourself to survive with the minimum. That in itself can be part of the fun. It's not for everyone and each to his own.
@@Tneknos Does surviving with the minimum mean stopping at every cafe along the way and renting rooms every second night because all you have is an emergency bivy, sounds nice.
Were is the food ? Not much point having a stove with nothing to cook. I guess the camera crew carry the stuff you forgot.
They can NOT be bikers! Look at their legs! Their legs are twigs!
Why not use a proper touring bike with pannier racks? Then you can take useful things like a tent.
Tape weave that nasty residue and you got to use chemicals to get it off it's best to go to the Sporting Goods section and find the rubberized racket or handlebar wraps and just use a little bit of rubber but you can find giant rubber bands for the postman and wrap it around the banging that way you don't you get the anti slip and you don't have to deal with the domed glue residue
i always wondering where my tent should be... if someone could answer me... thanks a lot
Panniers or on top of a rear rack?
When you do a Tom Dumoulin!! hahahahaha
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What ever happened to racks and panniers? Why am I so far behind the curve?
That saddle bag does not look like 15ltrs. It looks more like the 6 to 10 ltrs size version.
Where would you put a tent? If I bike in a wilderness area, or there is a chance of rain, one would need a tent.