thanks for this vid, I got one today and it is as you describe. It's well made and feels exactly like a regular kick pedal with a beater. Impressively designed this thing
Im not so sure that my neighbour below won't hear it. I can't tell the actual noise of the pedal through a youtube video, but to me sounds like what someone below could hear. I live in an apartment and i want to be as silent as possible.
Looks like a very well made pedal: but, still sounds loud on the video, and I can already imagine my neighbors still be bothered by the ambient ‘whap/thud’ along with the impact vibrations traveling through the floor. I suspect this is a solution which needs to tried in the playing space to actually determine it’s effectiveness on sound and vibration reduction for your specific playing space.
I agree. Wayyy quieter than a bass drum, but still a thud. Situational depending on playing on a concrete foundation vs open floor, sound treatment on walls or not, how far neighbors are, etc
The camera is right up against the pad so that’s like putting your ear right up to it. A better way to understand it is to put it at heat level or sit in a different room and listen.
How are the vibrations compared to a conventional beater + electric pad stand combination? Unfortunately, my neighbours can hear the vibrations, so I want to have a little as possible of the impact/ footstep sound as possible.
Roland claims it’s much less but in my experience, it’s probably just 20% quieter than the conventional example you described. I think some foam or shock absorption of some sort under the pedal itself would go a long way
Any pedal is going to transfer vibration to the floor; HH, beater kick pedals, even this and the KT-9. What this does is lower the acoustic noise. You'll still want to get a noise eater for the HH and kick pedal.
@@GooseReviews Right. I had bought it to minimize the footstep noise but had to realize that it was about as loud as the original. On my meter were displayed at both about 66 db. So the dream of not disturbing the other tenants is gone.
@@heinerbroeckerSounds about right. It's certainly not silent, but the best noise isolator that I've experienced. You could also try laying some foam under it to remove more reverberance as a lot comes from the floor itself. Let me know if you find any quieter solution that feels as good. Always open!
@@heinerbroeckerThe ambient noise in this video seems loud to me as well, but cameras accentuate it and is louder than it seems. But if your measuring 66db that is not loud at all for neighbors in an apartment during non quiet hours. I got a noise complaint overnight for watching tv at 45db, but during the day 66db is fine.
@@GooseReviews Yeah, manufacturers like Roland in particular are very good at bragging about how supposedly "silent" their drum pads are. The reality is that you will never achieve total silence with electronic drums, because at the end of the day you're still whacking something with a stick or beater (and in the case of the Roland KT10, I guess the foot lever itself is acting as the beater, which when pressed, strikes a velocity-sensitive pad with a piezoelectric sensor underneath). To me, the main benefit of a beaterless pedal like this has more to do with physical space than the volume of sound.
Thanks for the review! Can you still trigger the pads of the SPD when the pedal is plugged in? So that you could use your foot for one sound and a drum stick for another. Thanks!
Hi, I have a tendency to use the ball of my foot and rest the beater on the kick drum. I am having problems with my Roland KD-180L bouncing and double triggering and I am going out of mind. How do you think this pedal will work with my style of playing? Thank you so much for a response. You seem very knowledgeable.
I do the same thing. I found for real bass drums, a blanket/pillow solved the bounce back issue for me. Not much you can do for these fully pre built pedal setups, but this model works for me personally. You can see me sticking the beater to the pad in this video quite a bit to gauge it. I personally love how it feels.
It feels amazing by default to me. Depends if you’re doing 1/8s or 1/16s at 250🤘😂 it’s pretty dang responsive IMO. Local guitar centers likely have them where you could try for yourself
@@GooseReviews But interesting you actually say that it's supposed to be 75% less noisy than a KD - 9 with a beater... hmm guess what I got :D Now, I'll try the meinl cajon beater first and see how loud that is with the kd-9 and if it works at all. If not, might give this pedal a try, because just from judging the audio, it sounds as loud as a kd9 with a beater xD But apperiantly it isn't hmmmm. Thanks for the vid !
@@bestOskarEverxD I’ve owned both and to me, it is significantly quieter. You can judge from the video. The KT-10 just doesn’t vibrate the ground like others do. Totally fine if you disagree, video is my experience and opinion just to help!
Fortunately, it’s not like a normal pedal where you switch bass drum beaters to adjust for different weights. It does come by default balanced at a really smooth tension in my opinion.
@@GooseReviews yes you can change the weight of the beater 😂 there are 2 brass rods in the beater that can be removed with a hex key and moved to a different position to change the weight and balance of the beater with respect to the spring and it’s position. I like it to be lighter so I’ve removed one of the rods.
Not that I’m aware of since it’s only sending data when the pad is struck. I believe Wah pedals send data consistently about the position of the pedal. It would make an interesting experiment to see what happens none the less😅😂
@@GooseReviews look it up ..... there's plenty of info out there (or even here right under your own nose on UA-cam) about their harvesting of personal data, appalling treatment of workers, their directive to destroy town centres, their involvement in A.I. warfare and their insidious connections to the WEF, WHO and the brazen quashing of privacy.......
@@julianp4787 I obviously don’t support negative behavior or mistreatment of people in any way. Just making helpful videos for people and trying to make a living at it. Hope you can understand🙏
![Roland KT9 [V-Drums]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uBeEFWYOZlE/mqdefault.jpg)
You can’t add some music to the mix in jack there is no speaker output it’s for chaining another KT 10 for double bass only
Correct! My mistake - learned this after uploading.
The mix-in is primarily for another Kt-10 for doubles. I didn't think of running music through it.
Wasn’t aware of that, great tip!
thanks, i been wondering how you would double pedal a Roland SPD
thanks for this vid, I got one today and it is as you describe. It's well made and feels exactly like a regular kick pedal with a beater. Impressively designed this thing
Rock on! Great to hear
Im not so sure that my neighbour below won't hear it. I can't tell the actual noise of the pedal through a youtube video, but to me sounds like what someone below could hear. I live in an apartment and i want to be as silent as possible.
As it comes, I think you’re correct. You may need some thick insulation under it to really minimize the vibration through the building.
@@GooseReviews I think Roland has some products. Right?
@@makx6972 not for bass drum pedal dampening that I’m aware of 🤔
@@GooseReviews Roland NE-10 Noise Eater, they produce also smaller pads. But maybe a washing machine vibration pad/mat could also work
@@johsz great idea 👌
Looks like a very well made pedal: but, still sounds loud on the video, and I can already imagine my neighbors still be bothered by the ambient ‘whap/thud’ along with the impact vibrations traveling through the floor. I suspect this is a solution which needs to tried in the playing space to actually determine it’s effectiveness on sound and vibration reduction for your specific playing space.
I agree. Wayyy quieter than a bass drum, but still a thud. Situational depending on playing on a concrete foundation vs open floor, sound treatment on walls or not, how far neighbors are, etc
Ambient noise is still pretty loud for the price, but it could be the video; they always magnify noise. I'd have to hear it in person.
The camera is right up against the pad so that’s like putting your ear right up to it. A better way to understand it is to put it at heat level or sit in a different room and listen.
How are the vibrations compared to a conventional beater + electric pad stand combination? Unfortunately, my neighbours can hear the vibrations, so I want to have a little as possible of the impact/ footstep sound as possible.
Roland claims it’s much less but in my experience, it’s probably just 20% quieter than the conventional example you described. I think some foam or shock absorption of some sort under the pedal itself would go a long way
Any pedal is going to transfer vibration to the floor; HH, beater kick pedals, even this and the KT-9. What this does is lower the acoustic noise. You'll still want to get a noise eater for the HH and kick pedal.
That thing didn't work for me.
Nearly the same noise than the "normal" Kick Bass (TD-017)
What do you mean by "didn't work"? The physical noise from it is too loud?
@@GooseReviews Right.
I had bought it to minimize the footstep noise but had to realize that it was about as loud as the original.
On my meter were displayed at both about 66 db.
So the dream of not disturbing the other tenants is gone.
@@heinerbroeckerSounds about right. It's certainly not silent, but the best noise isolator that I've experienced. You could also try laying some foam under it to remove more reverberance as a lot comes from the floor itself. Let me know if you find any quieter solution that feels as good. Always open!
@@heinerbroeckerThe ambient noise in this video seems loud to me as well, but cameras accentuate it and is louder than it seems. But if your measuring 66db that is not loud at all for neighbors in an apartment during non quiet hours. I got a noise complaint overnight for watching tv at 45db, but during the day 66db is fine.
@@GooseReviews Yeah, manufacturers like Roland in particular are very good at bragging about how supposedly "silent" their drum pads are. The reality is that you will never achieve total silence with electronic drums, because at the end of the day you're still whacking something with a stick or beater (and in the case of the Roland KT10, I guess the foot lever itself is acting as the beater, which when pressed, strikes a velocity-sensitive pad with a piezoelectric sensor underneath). To me, the main benefit of a beaterless pedal like this has more to do with physical space than the volume of sound.
the mix in is for linkin another bass pedal for doulble bass is one option
Yep, learned that after making this video, check pinned comment
Thanks for the review! Can you still trigger the pads of the SPD when the pedal is plugged in? So that you could use your foot for one sound and a drum stick for another. Thanks!
Yes of course!
Hi, I have a tendency to use the ball of my foot and rest the beater on the kick drum. I am having problems with my Roland KD-180L bouncing and double triggering and I am going out of mind. How do you think this pedal will work with my style of playing? Thank you so much for a response. You seem very knowledgeable.
I do the same thing. I found for real bass drums, a blanket/pillow solved the bounce back issue for me. Not much you can do for these fully pre built pedal setups, but this model works for me personally. You can see me sticking the beater to the pad in this video quite a bit to gauge it. I personally love how it feels.
Would this work on the TD-07DMK instead of using a traditional pedal?
Yes, you would literally just unplug the 1/4” cable from your current pedal and then plug that 1/4” male end into this pedal’s output. Done
Do you know if it works with a mono cable?
Yes, it does!
How is the spring tension. Is it capable is 250bpm single foot blasting
It feels amazing by default to me. Depends if you’re doing 1/8s or 1/16s at 250🤘😂 it’s pretty dang responsive IMO. Local guitar centers likely have them where you could try for yourself
@@GooseReviews 1/4 single
@@timothyweakly2496yeah, totally possible at 250bpm quarter notes
hmmm, doesn't sound quiet to me at all :S
Compared to a bass drum 😊
@@GooseReviews But interesting you actually say that it's supposed to be 75% less noisy than a KD - 9 with a beater... hmm guess what I got :D
Now, I'll try the meinl cajon beater first and see how loud that is with the kd-9 and if it works at all. If not, might give this pedal a try, because just from judging the audio, it sounds as loud as a kd9 with a beater xD But apperiantly it isn't hmmmm. Thanks for the vid !
@@bestOskarEverxD I’ve owned both and to me, it is significantly quieter. You can judge from the video. The KT-10 just doesn’t vibrate the ground like others do. Totally fine if you disagree, video is my experience and opinion just to help!
Ei man,is the spring tension adjustable?
Sort of…just can be lightly tight (default) or heavy tight by taking the screw off the bottom and adjusting that way.
Fortunately, it’s not like a normal pedal where you switch bass drum beaters to adjust for different weights. It does come by default balanced at a really smooth tension in my opinion.
@@GooseReviews yes you can change the weight of the beater 😂 there are 2 brass rods in the beater that can be removed with a hex key and moved to a different position to change the weight and balance of the beater with respect to the spring and it’s position. I like it to be lighter so I’ve removed one of the rods.
@@specialunderwear Awesome, good to know!
Can you go from the pedal straight into a mixing desk?
Ideally should run this into a brain or sample pad first so you have a sound or midi note that it’s triggering
@@GooseReviews thanks for the advise,any suggestions,I'm looking for a pedal with the same type trigger reaction,I'm using a stomp box at the minute
@@tonyfox6044 What are you using it for? What isn't working for you with the stomp box?
when i change kit in spd sx i face loading problem how do slove pls tell❤❤
Can it double as a wah pedal? ....wah kick would be trippy.
Not that I’m aware of since it’s only sending data when the pad is struck. I believe Wah pedals send data consistently about the position of the pedal. It would make an interesting experiment to see what happens none the less😅😂
Шумит же!!! Какой amazing? 😢
Not in comparison to a kick drum. That is the point made here. Of course it's not silent😆
@@GooseReviews думаю насчёт kikpad...) Благодарю за ответ))
Like a wired mouse to my computer, and fires when triggered. And built like a brick. No wonder this thing cost so much.
What people in their right mind declares association with amazon!!
Thumbs down to you !
Legally required to with affiliate links and it’s a common courtesy to disclose as well. I would love to hear why this troubles you.
@@GooseReviews look it up ..... there's plenty of info out there (or even here right under your own nose on UA-cam) about their harvesting of personal data, appalling treatment of workers, their directive to destroy town centres, their involvement in A.I. warfare and their insidious connections to the WEF, WHO and the brazen quashing of privacy.......
@@julianp4787 I obviously don’t support negative behavior or mistreatment of people in any way. Just making helpful videos for people and trying to make a living at it. Hope you can understand🙏
@@GooseReviews I appreciate your reply :)
Sorry if I sounded accusatory.
Best wishes