The Ballad of Big Al (2000) Accuracy Review | Dino Documentaries RANKED #2
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Big Al was the subadult Allosaurus who lived life to the extreme! How did the BBC do in their portrayal of the famed specimen's life? Let's dig this up!
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One inaccuracy I'm surprised you didn't mention: at one point, the subadult Al is said to be *ten meters* long, larger than any known _Allosaurus fragilis_ or _jimmadseni_ and at least 25% longer than the actual Big Al specimen.
I appreciate you pointing this out. Some things I leave out either due to keeping a well-paced video or I forgot to write them down.
10 metres sounds like approaching or within the size range of the Peterson Quarry allosaurid, which may or may not be Allosaurus of sorts.
That’s as big as a small Saurophaganax!
It’s not an inaccuracy, Madsen lists a 12m Allosaurus from his osteology
@@Jackson-xl7sv that’s probably Saurophaganax
IMHO The Ballad of Big Al is the superior version of the WWD format: First having a story segment with the life reconstruction and speculative behaviours, followed by a behind the scenes segment after the story concludes which shows all the science behind the story segment. Had this been the format for all the episodes of the original WWD, it would have been perfect.
There is a behind the scenes for the regular show, but that is more about the creation of the show itself.
@@kylebrady969 I think there was a book called walking with dinosaurs the evidence or something like that
See, you're right IF you're talking in the modern context of streaming and physical home media.
It would be AWFUL to watch in a traditional broadcast. I remember watching the OG WWD when it broadcast in the US on Discovery Channel, with breaks for commercials every 3-5 minutes.
Is it bad that I never actually watched the second part because I didn't care enough to watch it?
Indeed. I'd love to see Prehistoric Planet do a similar special like this.
To be fair, the documentary never outright states that female Allosaurs are the larger gender. I think the female Allo's that Big Al encountered happened to be older, therefore bigger, than he was.
I agree
I occasionally have this recurring realization that _Ceratosaurus_ doesn't show up in this series, but I feel like they'd have just been pushovers here as well, if only to a lesser extent.
Ceratosaurus is the most underappreciated dinosaur. 5 second cameo in JP3, quickly slaughtered in When Dinosaurs Roamed America, and bodied over and over again in Jurassic Fight Club.
@@redraptorwrites6778 @Adasaur It feels like Ceratosaurus has slowly been replaced by Carnotaurus in pop culture over time.
Come to think of it, Carnotaurus has been taking over as pop-culture's go-to medium-large theropod in recent years.
@@redraptorwrites6778 the only time I could think of Ceratosaurus having a more respectable role is in the Netflix series: Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous, Season 2. It was nice seeing Cerato being an animal in that show.
@@redraptorwrites6778 I think Ceratosaurus stands a good chance against Allo,especially C.Dentisculatus
@@redraptorwrites6778 Honestly, if Ceratosaurus was the same size as Allosaurus, I think he'd kick the shit out of him, as ha has a bigger, bulkier build. I love him as a piscivore, hunting smaller dinos like dryosaurus, but sometimes working together like in TBBA to bring down larger prey, specifically old, sickly, or wounded sauropods or stegosaurs. In a dinosaur docu I'm working on, the ceratosaurus in one of the episodes will be portrayed to be as accurate as I can with him.
The size difference being females larger was probably based on raptor birds. It may not be true for dinosaurs but I think that was the reasoning for theorizing on predatory dinosaurs.
It could be possible for raptors but probably not for the large carnivores and herbivores
This was one of my first dinosaur documentaries that I saw when I was a kid and ever since then Allosaurus has been and continues to be my favorite dinosaur.
Ayoooo sammmeeeeee
Literally same
I watched this documentary years ago on Netflix because Allosaurus is my favorite dinosaur and I remember actually crying at the end when they described Al's miserable death. I mean it was a foregone conclusion because they're talking about an extinct animal, but realizing how much pain it would have had to have been in during its final moments is just unsettling.
This documentary is excellently done.
Honestly, an Indiana Jones movie where he fights Private fossil collectors would be cool. Like Maybe the Nazis are trying to pull a dino D-Day, and Indy has to stop them
I only watched Big Al this year. I really enjoyed it. I only regret they did not have a nocturnal hunting sequence, which would have been awesome on so many levels. Also it is woefully neglected when it comes to therapod dinosaurs, and would offer great advantages especially against large or armed prey.
Yeah, you were fair. I’m extremely nostalgic towards The Ballad of Big Al and I was not at all upset or disappointed with your judgement. Good job!
Same
Good video. This and Time of the Titans display Allosaurus behavior very well.
Many living therapods have the females larger than the males, including eagles. That being said, the universal rule in sexually dimorphic animals tends to be that if the animal is larger, the males get bigger disproportionately. Either the smaller male gets closer in size to the female or the larger male gets further away.
There are important exceptions to that in many insects, fish and some birds (the extinct moa being particullarly striking).
Wrong wrong wrong. Go search you donut. Birds ARE tend to have the males larger than females only with the exceptions of birds of prey, emus and cassowaries
Oh man, I watched the hell out of this one as a kid. It was definitely my favorite documentary at the time, and I always picked up new info. It's not aged the best, but I still hold it near and dear to my heart.
Wasn't the female > male idea based on Sue, with the fossil's sex determined by the presence of an additional calcium layer around the bones preparing the female dinosaur for forming eggshells?
I've searched for what you meant and I found nothing about Sue's sex at all? It seemed to be a different specimen who was younger than Sue
The specimen was only named after the paleontologist who discovered it
I love this documentary one of the first dinosaur documentaries as a child and allosaurus is one of my favourite animals.
Hey Tim I like this video very good ranking the dinosaurs hopefully we can see more of this have a good day or night
Thanks Sebastian! Yup, there's a lot more on the way.
@@redraptorwrites6778 ok cant wait
I am very glad I found this channel, I used to be huge fan of dinosaurs and still I am,I am more of a gamer now but my nostalgia kicked in and I was very lucky that I found this channel very informative and mind refreshing . Thanks for the content
Never disappointed with your vids
Wow thanks man! I appreciate it.
@@redraptorwrites6778 keep on making these videos there very entertaining and fun to watch! PLEASE DON’T QUIT your reviews like other UA-camrs would
@@ABSOLUTE_UNIT100 I've been doing UA-cam for over 4 years straight and have no intention of quitting any time soon. Thanks for the support guys!
@@redraptorwrites6778 these videos are on e of the best reviews that I ever seen besides HoopsAndDinoMan and others
@@redraptorwrites6778 good I hope that you don’t quit because one of my favorite UA-cam channel that reviews prehistoric documentaries or movies that would be HoopsAndDinoMan still makes videos but his videos arent as good or entertaining as his order videos because he for some reason quitted making reviews and that’s kinda sad and disappointing too
One inaccuracy/ outdated info was when they actually placed big al in A.fragilis which lived 145 mya but they replaced it and years later they put it to jimmadseni which lived earlier than fragilis and in the end of the second episode they said it died 145 mya but jimmadseni lived abt 157 to 152 mya
I LOVED Big Al/The WWD Allosaur's design
This is the first dinosaur documentary I’ve ever seen and is largely responsible for both my love of dinosaurs and why Allosaurus is my favorite dinosaur.
This is hilarious and really informative. Instant subscribe!
Man, another favorite of mine as the Jurassic time period is the most fascinating, when it comes to dinosaurs for me. Respectable grade good sir, and I enjoy this follow up. Keep up your informative content, stay safe and have a great day.
@Red Raptor Writes, any predator has the chance to become a cannibal if it is desperate enough.
Hell, some herbivores are known to be cannibals when desperate enough.
I know I'm late but please tell me this is a joke
@@Roth395 no it isn't, Herbivores can be carnivorous from time to time
@@GaiusIntrepidus Yeah, I've come to realize how stupid what I said was. I'm now well aware of the fact that herbivores do supplement their diet with meat.
Thank you for another good review!
We need a balled of Scotty one of the largest Trex specimens ever found.
Fun fact. I learned this documentary word for word when I was like 2-3 years old. Much to the discontent of my big brother. We went on a cross country road trip from Cali all the way to Yellowstone and all over the US. We picked up walking with Dinosaurs the Ballad of Big AL somewhere along the way and I watched it the rest of the trip. One of my favorite documentaries.
Funnily enough, even with the inaccurate model & behavior, there is an anurognathid in Jurassic America, Mesadactylus. Though it was found in the Morrison Formation
Yet in one article for the special, can’t remember where, the pterosaur in the big al special was supposed to be Pterodactylus. -_- that made it worse
Nice video
I think that they based the model after sarophaganax. The end of the snoot looks a lot more like it, but I don’t know what they were thinking with those head crests.
I like in the end you put allosaurus has never seen such bull**** before lol
Is that crocodile at the beginning going to be OK?
11:45 this gets me every time
Is it true that all dinosaur documentaries that are pretty old like ballad of big al are more realistic than the documentaries now
Pretty much.
Not necessarily.
0:33 one of my favourite program specials the walking with allosaurus is my favourite version of the animal.
I’ve got big al on dvd i grew up on him, i didnt know that : female are bigger was myth, thanks!
good stuff
Good review, and thanks for pushing back on the "female theropods were bigger than males" speculation. It has not been proven, and should not be presented as fact.
I loved this
Ceratosaurus really had a rough life in Jurassic Fight Club. Although i like the design of the Allo in JFC more, WWD would be closer to reality. Big Al was the first Dinosaur i loved and he will forever have a special place in my heart. Thank you Big Al for giving me that fire in my heart for Dinosaurs.❤️
In most birds male and female are about the same size or in cases in birds of prey most female are bigger.
7:16 that was ****ing hilarious
Big Al can be big Alice wow
I'd like to add to the discussion for the first point about sociability in allosaurs being accurate with the loose gang idea by saying that sociability in modern archosaurs is in its infancy and that creatures that have been known to science for forever such as nile crocodiles and specticaled caimans have strict social hierarchies, have been observed to play and also make group kills, and use fish corraling techniques(yeah everyone thought it was amazing when whales were observed doing it.). My argument is that adverse or seasonally unstable enviroments, like that of the Morrison may lead to more social coheision and nuance than first meets the eye.
I just saw Big Al in person!
I remember watching this as a kid immediately, considering I already was a Dinosaur nerd lmao. And I still am.
Next when dinosaurs roamed america
Yup!
My favorite VHS growing up was this 👌
Dude you should play Path Of Titans it’s a dinosaur survival simulator with MMO elements I think you’d really like it
Please no, it’s just collection quest
Or birdbath simulator
@@starlight0313 For now yeah, tough i see insane potential in it, IF it turns out that the ecosystem heavily favors preying on other players than meat here and there scattered around the map
I think the reason why back then the females used to be because birds of prey like bald eagles At the time but that’s not really the case
Wat
@@sleinzer2302 bald Eagles and other birds of prey have females larger than males
good show
Wait wut? Jimadseni? I thought it was fragilis
Big Al was classified as A. fragilis but has been reassigned to the very recently described species A. jimmadseni.
The hand rotation thing wasn't know of for their time
I love this documentary and I won visit the big Al in the museum
I remebrper when I used to watch this all the time
i often watched this as a kid
Hey the bit playing at 1:00 where the spinosaur is clawing the crocodile...what documentary is that from?
Monsters Resurrected.
@@ShinGhidorah17 thx
My inspiration 😂😂😂
"The feet were good enough to make Quentin Tarantino happy"
it cant be an allosaurus dokumentry without ceratosaurus getting eliminated
XDDD
i think it would of been cool for them to explain the other Morrison therapods
Reading the comments below regarding the claims of sexual dimorphism in theropod dinosaurs, I feel a huge misunderstanding is at place and it must be clarified. I see multiple people are under the impression that the speculation for reverse Sexual Dimorphism/females being bigger in Tyrannosaurus Rex (this was never a claim made for all theropods in general btw) comes from the idea that in most modern birds of prey females are bigger then males. So there are multiple problems with this, first Tyrannosaurus (and especially Allosaurus) were not closely related enough to modern birds to where we can just say they would share sexual dimorphism patterns, between Tyrannosaurs and modern birds you have Dromeosaurs/Troodontids, Oviraptors, Therizinosaurs, and Ornithomimasaurs, and as you know moderns birds proper don't always share the same sexual dimorphism patterns with each other, and they are more closely related to each other then any of them are to the Dromeosaurs, the closest to the birds among the none Avian dinos, let alone to Tyrannosaurs and especially Carnosaurs like Allosaurus. Also carnivory in birds doesn't automatically = larger females, because nearly all birds are at least partially carnivorous, and when accounting all known 10,000 species, reverse sexual dimorphism is the exception not the rule. Also the most well supported hypothesis to why the birds that we normally think of when say "bird of prey" such as Eagles, Hawks, Owls, etc. show reverse sexual dimorphism, is their ecology. The males and females of these species form monogamous pairs, that take turns hunting at different times in the year, taking different prey depending on the season, the smaller male hawks will hunt smaller more agile prey while the female sits on the eggs, and later they switch, with the larger females hunting larger prey. Giant theropods such as T.rex, were not eagles/hawks ecologically speaking, they most likely hunted the same prey year round. In the case of T.rex their ecological role was that of the key stone species apex predator, they were keeping the population of the megafauna (Triceratops, Edmontosaurus, Ankylosaurus) in check, so ecologically they were more like the Lions or Jaguars of their respective ecosystem, not Eagles.
The actual reasoning for the hypothesis that female T.rex were bigger than the males stemmed from comparisons to crocodilians of all things (not birds of prey). You see in the 1990s the amount of discovered T.rex specimens increased significantly and the paleontologist Peter Larsen of the Black Hills Institute, observed that the specimens seem to come in two body shapes, one being more robust, and it appeared that the robust specimens had a reduced first tail chevron bone, which is what was seen in female crocodilians. In later years this turned out to be wrong for two reasons, first the specimen known as Sue (one of the largest and most robust) turned out to have a full sized chevron after it was properly described, and second of all, later more extensive studies of crocodilians, showed that they don't consistently show reduced chevron bones in females, contrary to previous observations. There is one specimen of T.rex called MOR 1125 which is indeed believed to be a female, because it was preserved with medullary bone tissue, suggesting that it was pregnant (about to lay its eggs) before she died. But aside from that specimen, we currently have no way of determining which T.rex specimens belong to which sex, indeed this is the case for all none avian dinosaurs.
Exactly!
From all dinosaur media I will say walking with dinosaurs and all the specials the original Jurassic Park T-Rex maybe most accurate betrayals of dinosaurs in popular media we have
What betrayal?
I wonder where dinosaur revolution would go? It’s cartoony but had good models and interesting dinosaurs. Probably in D tho.
Actually it's gonna rank really high despite the cartooniness. XD
@@redraptorwrites6778 That’s cool nice to hear
@@redraptorwrites6778 whe will you do planet dinosaur?
@@DINO_X65 There's a long way to go before I reach Planet Dinosaurs. I'm going in chronological order and I'm only up to When Dinosaurs Roamed America 10 years prior. But it'll come
When I was 5-8 I would watch walking with dinosaurs every day NO MISSES I didnt care about the inaccuracies or werid face I jsut loved seeing my favourite dinosaurs showed done right! Also big all was good as well like fricking amazing, they were all good!
Ceratos aren't treated like dirt because by that time in the plot, Ceratos ARE dirt...
Where can I watch this show? I managed to find one episode on UA-cam and really loved it
Seeing as we never see any Ceratosaurus in the docummentary they had either moved away or were extinct by the looks of it.
I know that Ceratosaurus lived at the same Time and location i just wonder were are they.
7:15 why just why
4:00 yep, although it is funny because birds of prey, a.k.a most carnivorous bird do have a trend of where the females are indeed larger than the males, although slightly more in size. Then again, would theropods like T.rex have the same courtship and reproductive methods of birds of prey? To the point where it incentives females being larger? Same for most other theropods to the point it is a trend similar to that of birds of prey? Most likely no, but hey speculation.
But yeah the reason males become bigger is so that they have an advantage over other males and to woe females, we can see that best in carnivorous animals that work most likely share similar hunting methods to therapods. Even crocs show this as well despite them not having the same hunting method at least the whole ambush from the river thing.
But yeah, would be a more depends on the situation, was it advantageous for female therapods who had territory and needed to protect that and their young, if and when they at least took croc level care for them when hatched, or would it be more advantageous for the males to just be bigger than the females for male on male competition? Depends I guess.
I'm not opposed to pack hunting theropods dinosaurs. I am opposed to pack hunting being the rule rather than the exception.
Are you gonna do Walking With Dinosaurs
You mean the movie? I reviewed the series months ago.
@@redraptorwrites6778 i ment walking with monsters sorry
@@seandowdsdowds4472 Because I'm going in chronological order, it is in production as we speak. I'm almost done with the script
2:57 (kinda) out of topic but doesn’t anyone notice that in old paleo media (such as one million years bc 1966 and the animal world) allosaurus is depicted without its headcrests I wonder why tho?
Alice torres is all half roundish or oval jaws . That is one trait an allosaurid has to have
What is next
When Dinosaurs Roamed America. I pinned a comment on my WWD review that lists them out in order.
"Action craze directors"
*Spino claws casually eviscerating a crocodile*
LOL. Everyone seems to think claws are like... steel knives or even lightsabres. Claws are glorified fingernails. They're not gonna cut through a massive osteoderm-lined leathery crocodile like it's a stick of warm butter. No, not even if they are maintained sharp. Reminder that cats, animals with retractable claws that they actively sharpen, use their claws for defense and prey restraint. They don't usually kill their prey by clawing it to death because the reality is that a pointy sheath of keratin is just not that good at cutting things. Ok-ish at puncturing but it has a lot of trouble delivering deep cuts like a knife.
I would put big al at s tier because he’s just too emotional for us to handle
I thought the title said big ai..
i dont really care about dinosaur models i just care about the behavior
I'm here wondering why the speculation for this special is taking estradiol
4:05 I think a pretty good argument for female theropods being larger than male theropods is simply modern dinosaurs, birds, for example in most species of birds of prey the female is considerably larger than their male counterparts. So imo it’s definitely within the realm of possibility for female theropods to be larger than their male counterparts. Idk why speculation like that would be considered inaccurate.
Well the larger female birds are mainly birds of prey but some birds like chickens(which are more closely related to large theropods than birds of prey) the males are larger
you forgot to talk about brachiosaurus
Ah yes Allosaurus was not depicted as a serial killer of Ceratosaurus in the Ballad of Big Al. Because Ceratosaurus did not even appear.
I hope that no one won’t realize that this sarcasm 7:08
so, this is allosaurus 2000 right and why are you hating on Jurassic Park
I lost it at Tarantino 🤣
Don't sigh they look cool
But for real great video
Ok
bbc should remaster this
❤
When you said allosaurus liked stomping on the necks of ceratosaurus, we’re you joking, or not?
Wait, drinker isn't real?
Ah yes Big Al The Allosaurus that Never Such Bullshit before the Legend Meme Dino
About this argument of sexual dimorphism I know that the classic birds of prey like arpy ,band eagle,hawks have the female bigger than the male but there are a lot of exeptions like the andean condor whic has a male 30 percent bigger than the female and so do californian condor
Females are rarely larger than males when it comes to Archosaurs
Honestly, through some of the dino docs I've watched through the years, I've noticed that the BBC seems more rooted in the science and semi-accuracy of their animals than american docs do.
Not saying that the BBC gets it all right, they clearly don't, but comparing, even briefly, things like WWD or Prehistoric Planet, to Jurassic Fight Club, you can see the difference in the accuracy used.
I don't remember the names of half the bad american shows I've seen with dinos, but I saw the one with the cruddy Spino model with the rooster crests ;-;
Is no one gonna mention that we now know Big Al was female?
Ballded of big al is in 1999
Remarkable 🦖Allosaurus🦖NickName BiG(AL)💚😄🤩🤯Love This SpeciaL🤩
Wait-- Big Al broke his toe from a bad trip? He should have stuck to shrooms, _Lysergic acid diethylamide_ is just too unpredictable! 😉