PINNED COMMENT FOR QUESTIONS No matter what happens, I'm just happy this challenge exists now. Ask anything ya like, and I'll do my best to answer today.
@@yonatanalyagon5065 The details on the counter say that she doesn't die when she runs away, so we don't count that as a death. You just don't win either LMAO
It's true. Pm will keep on pumping out ids and as long as that's going Frey can technically keep this up for as long as Limbus's entire lifespan. Insane challenge but very epic to see someone making the game more difficult in interesting ways. (Spare my wife ryoshu plz)
Depends on the rules I'd say. If we're talking no day restarts and no mem repo, only reset to day 0 once at day 45, then I did it several times already, all successful. Dunno, lob corp is not that hard.
PM really should add ability to replay story missions with autoleveled enemies. With this addition this challange would be much easier to organize and set up.
Considering they're now planning to focus more in chain battles, which are longer and assume you're gonna lose 1 or 2 ids, as well as the fact the next canto will likely have enemies with bleed, expect this nuzlocke to get Much harder
Alternate Title: Dante doesn't like to suffer anymore from reviving the Sinners. Then giving them a big middle finger for not being responsible and diving head first in battles.
ua-cam.com/channels/BXkAllrH8kJF1wY3DXqNMQ.htmlcommunity?lb=Ugkx7mI0qSat35dfEpDfMgI7J3Md8htS8up3 Long story short, CWT is now a project to work on in the background of others.
For the Aleph: I think these sinners id's do well. Yi sang: Pequod (Relentless stabbing) and Seven assoc maybe? Faust: LCR (26 rolling skill 3) Don: Shi (rolls well) and BL (Spreads poise) Ryoshu: Most if not all of her 00 ID'S are viable especially Seven (12, 20,19) Meursault: Dead Rabbits Boss or Middle (plus coin drop) Hong Lu: All of his 00 id's Heathcliff: N corp (2 plus coin drop) or Multicrack (13/19/21) Ishmael: Shi (21 rolling skill 2) or Wuthering (13, 16,16 again) Rodion: T corp maybe? Sinclair: Dont. But if you really want to Red sheet. Outis: Cinq (Good skills overall) , G corp (Good rolls and buffs allies) and Ring Gregor: Kurokumo
Did something similar except with a mix of hell bingo and random sinners, ids, but in md4h. The rules are simple: if you get a bingo you spin a wheel of punishments (no shops, no enhance, sacrifice a sinner or 3 no egos, refuse 5 gifts), after you beat a floor, 3 sinners must be replaced and cannot be used till next floor and the id used is permanently locked out from being used again. I only survived till floor 5 first fight.
Since Limbus is going to get at least five more cantos in its story, I'd make an adjustment to this challenge. After two cantos, if a sinner had previously died then they can be brought back to life, or for more detail if Sinclair died in Canto IV, then he'll be benched until you reach Canto VI, at which point he can join the fight again. In fights where a sinner needs to be involved in a fight, you can revive them immediately, but at the cost of having another sinner take its current place. For more detail, if you get to Canto VI with Heathcliff needing one canto left to be revived, you can instantly revive him while making someone like Don Quixote getting benched until you finish Canto VI. Otherwise, this effectively needs to go deathless since losing more than one sinner per canto means you might not have enough sinners to complete the entire story under the current stipulations (especially if you lose a sinner that's important to the upcoming story).
I beat this challenge on Aleph difficulty, here’s my thoughts: Canto II-III: extremely easy Canto IV: Extremely easy except for 4-48, which wiped all my sinners, making me have to restart. You need to be EXTREMELY careful with her status effects or she will instakill sinners. Canto V: Moderate (no deaths) Canto VI: Extreme (barely made it through the boss gauntlet with Chains of Others spam). Surprisingly Hindley managed to kill Zwei Faust. Multicrack Heathcliff died in the Time Killing Time dungeon. Every other sinner survived. I think you should remove Canto II-IV (except for the Dongbaek boss fights) from the challenge for being too easy. You should also add 6-29 to the google doc Overall I really liked the challenge! It was difficult but very satisfying to beat
Thanks for the update! I'm considering making an updated video after Canto VII drops since we're getting a larger change to game mechanics too and will take this into account. As of now, I can see the reasons for dropping Cantos II-IV since they're more boring than the rest, but also don't love the idea of losing the sense of experiencing the entire journey. It's worth addressing though, so some change will have to come into play. Regardless, I'm glad you had fun with the challenge and appreciate the feedback!
@@FreyCheqama I appreciated the quick response! I had one other major suggestion for Aleph difficulty, which would be randomizing ids for each battle or Canto instead of banning 000s. The main problem with the current rule is that a few 00s are significantly stronger than others (like MC Heath), incentivizing players to use the same group of 00s for every fight.
Still gonna be too easy. Gotta lock to base ID, egoless, with a -3 in the level cap formula, while playing with your eyes closed and smoked out on zaza, with only the left foot of course.
Honestly, I feel like stopping at no 000 ids is too tame. So why not kick it up a notch for a few people who want to suffer? Canard: A fun little silly nuzlocke where you just start over. Urban Myth: A secondary harder (Though not by much) version where you have to use the base sinners in their canto. Any id they use is on the table. Urban legend: You're required to double slot a sinner. (Means that if the max sinners is 5 you can only bring 4.) Urban plaque: Kind of like Urban Myth, but you keep it accurate and can only bring their base. Ids are at least 3 levels below the enemies. This means that yes you will have to field base yi sang in canto 4. Urban Nightmare: Everything is 5 levels below, only allowed to use the base ego. NO supports can be fielded. Star of the City: Base Ids and Egos ONLY. This means no support passives, no op ids. Just you, the base ids and your skill. (Yes this is somehow possible.) Impuritas Civitatis: BASE IDS ONLY, AT LEAST 5 LEVELS BELOW THE RECOMMENDED, ALWAYS ONE BELOW THE SINNER LIMIT. (Everything up to Star of the City has been possible at least up till the end of canto 5. Further testing will have to be done to see if Impuritas Civitatis is doable.)
@@ryoshuirl yep kinda like that. Although you could just also use the base support passives, though I've found the most fun comes with no uptie ids on the bench.
@@ryoshuirl I agree that double slotting is an upside. But thats only for chain battles. Human fights? You end the thing fast or you die, since you don't have enough slots to fully counter everything. (This is especially seen in canto 6 with the maid.)
Yeah. Midway through I realized it wouldn't hit for the most hardcore players yet. But that's okay. I'd rather leave something harder for casual players that still have some breathing room than go to extremes. Depending on how Canto VII goes, I may make a followup with more restrictions, as long as they lead to interacting with the game in a new way that doesn't get overly-repetitive. We'll see.
if ya want another suggested 'difficulty', you could add "only one 000 ID at a time" which removes 1 000 ID each time you use it in a bossfight(this allows a single ID to be used through a dungeon, but you swap it out each abno battle, for example)
@@FreyCheqama it feels like a more interesting way to do the ALEPH version of the nuzloke... well, not 'more interesting' a 'more possible' one from some perspectives. especially since you need to carefully pick and choose who you use in each canto
17:48 oh it's possible with some sacrifices, blood and a bunch of tears. But in an enviroment where death is considered permanent.. eh... well... I personally wouldn't recomment it.. unless you add a special rule that said IDs are death afterwards but can redo this specific stage as many times as it takes in order to spare the other two stars from follwing them into an early but quiet painful grave of endless bleed/sinking x'DDD
@@holycheeseduck4729 was 6-48 nerfed? i played right on release and it was piss easy, 4-48 was a fucking NIGHTMARE as a beginner though, had to resort to the molar ishmael solo strat
0:34 to be honest someone might see that and go “doesn’t look too bad considering how fucked up everything else in PM’s universe seems to be, I’ll try it” No you should have shown them Binah
PINNED COMMENT FOR QUESTIONS
No matter what happens, I'm just happy this challenge exists now. Ask anything ya like, and I'll do my best to answer today.
Were you born as a sadist?
What's the ruling on devyet' rodion
@@yonatanalyagon5065 The details on the counter say that she doesn't die when she runs away, so we don't count that as a death. You just don't win either LMAO
At what canto would we be getting a video to this challenge, or are you working on the video of your playthrough of this challenge?
Do you have games on your phone (apart from Limbus in case you're one of the mobile gang)
You creating this is like Yi Sang inventing the mirror
leads to depression
Sinking deluge
It's true. Pm will keep on pumping out ids and as long as that's going Frey can technically keep this up for as long as Limbus's entire lifespan. Insane challenge but very epic to see someone making the game more difficult in interesting ways. (Spare my wife ryoshu plz)
Dante:
Get a sword and 2 akimbo gun, and also go bare chest
Faust would make a better manager, they only keep Danteh cause he can revive
I’ve seen someone attempt to do a lobotomy corp nuzlocke. Let’s just say that he got farther than I was expecting.
Damn, who was it?
@@omegaghost8267Harkjay
Depends on the rules I'd say. If we're talking no day restarts and no mem repo, only reset to day 0 once at day 45, then I did it several times already, all successful. Dunno, lob corp is not that hard.
@@lev_msamy idea of lcorp nuzlocke is 0 mem repository at all (no day, checkpoint, or day 1 resets)
@@LimbillionBrainrot but it's literally impossible to complete all suppressions to pass day 49. Are there any exceptions or mods to circumvent this?
PM really should add ability to replay story missions with autoleveled enemies. With this addition this challange would be much easier to organize and set up.
Or let you level down ids
Considering they're now planning to focus more in chain battles, which are longer and assume you're gonna lose 1 or 2 ids, as well as the fact the next canto will likely have enemies with bleed, expect this nuzlocke to get Much harder
Praying
Oh hell yeah an appearance of Arc Angela, she actually was who made me discover Project Moon originally, thus, my insanity began
*he
Waiting for canto 7 where the sinner needs to deal the last hit to make this video Spoil like milk
If Don has a counter, she can win while dead. It'd be a lot harder, but still possible.
Waiting for Canto 8 where you'll have to fight alongside a monster, and if you don't let that monster kill the enemy you instantly lose
need an alternate mode where you cycle in IDs randomly, maybe a roguelike mode
i think you can easily get that by using a random number generator or a wheel of fortune
Alternate Title: Dante doesn't like to suffer anymore from reviving the Sinners. Then giving them a big middle finger for not being responsible and diving head first in battles.
Where the 2nd part of city district explains
ua-cam.com/channels/BXkAllrH8kJF1wY3DXqNMQ.htmlcommunity?lb=Ugkx7mI0qSat35dfEpDfMgI7J3Md8htS8up3
Long story short, CWT is now a project to work on in the background of others.
Yay I showed up, local lobotomom
good video btw, crazy APR origins
The goat is here
HOLY SHIT
Can't wait to see someone attempt canto 7 final boss and loss after dedicating over 200 hours.
gregnant run soon?
I must be the father
The entire goal is to start a fresh save file and get Crown of Thorns EGO. It'd be a really funny speedrun.
CENSOREDTastic, or something, I don’t know, sure.
Aleph+: Only Base Sinners
Nah, Aleph+ is uptie 3 only, base ego only.
@@Silancet Uptie 1 and zayins only (also at u1)
For the Aleph: I think these sinners id's do well.
Yi sang: Pequod (Relentless stabbing) and Seven assoc maybe?
Faust: LCR (26 rolling skill 3)
Don: Shi (rolls well) and BL (Spreads poise)
Ryoshu: Most if not all of her 00 ID'S are viable especially Seven (12, 20,19)
Meursault: Dead Rabbits Boss or Middle (plus coin drop)
Hong Lu: All of his 00 id's
Heathcliff: N corp (2 plus coin drop) or Multicrack (13/19/21)
Ishmael: Shi (21 rolling skill 2) or Wuthering (13, 16,16 again)
Rodion: T corp maybe?
Sinclair: Dont. But if you really want to Red sheet.
Outis: Cinq (Good skills overall) , G corp (Good rolls and buffs allies) and Ring
Gregor: Kurokumo
Man I wish PM would add ID level readjusting so I could do stuff like this.
I'm not hearting this so that it stays on my feed because this would have helped a lot when designing the challenge.
The ALEPH variant is for those that play Russian Roulette with five bullets in the chamber.
I mean, technically speaking Lobotomy Corp IS a nuzlocke I'm pretty sure, whatever dies stays dead
Can't wait for pm to notice this video and ramp up the next canto
He assumed I could calc ego damage or perhaps even remember resistance. 😂
Did something similar except with a mix of hell bingo and random sinners, ids, but in md4h. The rules are simple: if you get a bingo you spin a wheel of punishments (no shops, no enhance, sacrifice a sinner or 3 no egos, refuse 5 gifts), after you beat a floor, 3 sinners must be replaced and cannot be used till next floor and the id used is permanently locked out from being used again. I only survived till floor 5 first fight.
I will write both this and your name down
I am so glad to see someone mention the Faust is Gretchen theory in their videos. I wrote it up on reddit and felt like megamind.
Since Limbus is going to get at least five more cantos in its story, I'd make an adjustment to this challenge. After two cantos, if a sinner had previously died then they can be brought back to life, or for more detail if Sinclair died in Canto IV, then he'll be benched until you reach Canto VI, at which point he can join the fight again. In fights where a sinner needs to be involved in a fight, you can revive them immediately, but at the cost of having another sinner take its current place. For more detail, if you get to Canto VI with Heathcliff needing one canto left to be revived, you can instantly revive him while making someone like Don Quixote getting benched until you finish Canto VI. Otherwise, this effectively needs to go deathless since losing more than one sinner per canto means you might not have enough sinners to complete the entire story under the current stipulations (especially if you lose a sinner that's important to the upcoming story).
Challenge content for one of my favourite games, hope to see more like this!
0:36 I saw a video of someone doing a 1 Agent run of Lobotomy Corp once. It was awful
you can make your own variants
personally i'll just go HE or TETH but with the aleph addition of no 000 IDs
Hey i just subscribed and i just wanted to say how much i enjoyed these videos. Thx and pls make more 🙏🏻
Someone did in fact nuzlocke LobCorp.
As a totally normal person
Yes, i'm doing a Lobotomy Corp Nuzlocke
The Head called, they'd love to hire you 😂
FINALLY A WAY TO NUZLOCKE ANOTHER GAME I LOVE AS IF LIFE ISNT THE REAL NUZLOCKE
This sounds fun, probably not that hard but it's creative and interesting. I'll try it.
Thank you lord Frey, I was just wondering when my next order of suffering would arrive
I beat this challenge on Aleph difficulty, here’s my thoughts:
Canto II-III: extremely easy
Canto IV: Extremely easy except for 4-48, which wiped all my sinners, making me have to restart. You need to be EXTREMELY careful with her status effects or she will instakill sinners.
Canto V: Moderate (no deaths)
Canto VI: Extreme (barely made it through the boss gauntlet with Chains of Others spam).
Surprisingly Hindley managed to kill Zwei Faust. Multicrack Heathcliff died in the Time Killing Time dungeon. Every other sinner survived.
I think you should remove Canto II-IV (except for the Dongbaek boss fights) from the challenge for being too easy. You should also add 6-29 to the google doc
Overall I really liked the challenge! It was difficult but very satisfying to beat
Thanks for the update! I'm considering making an updated video after Canto VII drops since we're getting a larger change to game mechanics too and will take this into account.
As of now, I can see the reasons for dropping Cantos II-IV since they're more boring than the rest, but also don't love the idea of losing the sense of experiencing the entire journey. It's worth addressing though, so some change will have to come into play.
Regardless, I'm glad you had fun with the challenge and appreciate the feedback!
@@FreyCheqama I appreciated the quick response! I had one other major suggestion for Aleph difficulty, which would be randomizing ids for each battle or Canto instead of banning 000s. The main problem with the current rule is that a few 00s are significantly stronger than others (like MC Heath), incentivizing players to use the same group of 00s for every fight.
fuck the "project moon mentioned", ArcAngela mentioned LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Limbus company but danteh forgo how to turn back the clock
0:38 artwork from left pfp looks like it made by Lam. There is smth bad information bout him...
I'm still stuck on Ricardo fight, I may be stupid.
Still gonna be too easy. Gotta lock to base ID, egoless, with a -3 in the level cap formula, while playing with your eyes closed and smoked out on zaza, with only the left foot of course.
IS THAT WOMAN
heh
Honestly, I feel like stopping at no 000 ids is too tame.
So why not kick it up a notch for a few people who want to suffer?
Canard: A fun little silly nuzlocke where you just start over.
Urban Myth: A secondary harder (Though not by much) version where you have to use the base sinners in their canto. Any id they use is on the table.
Urban legend: You're required to double slot a sinner. (Means that if the max sinners is 5 you can only bring 4.)
Urban plaque: Kind of like Urban Myth, but you keep it accurate and can only bring their base. Ids are at least 3 levels below the enemies. This means that yes you will have to field base yi sang in canto 4.
Urban Nightmare: Everything is 5 levels below, only allowed to use the base ego. NO supports can be fielded.
Star of the City: Base Ids and Egos ONLY. This means no support passives, no op ids. Just you, the base ids and your skill. (Yes this is somehow possible.)
Impuritas Civitatis: BASE IDS ONLY, AT LEAST 5 LEVELS BELOW THE RECOMMENDED, ALWAYS ONE BELOW THE SINNER LIMIT.
(Everything up to Star of the City has been possible at least up till the end of canto 5. Further testing will have to be done to see if Impuritas Civitatis is doable.)
Double slotting a Sinner is an upside, not a downside.
Also, for no support passives to be active, you'd need to field Base IDs and get unuptied IDs off-field.
@@ryoshuirl yep kinda like that. Although you could just also use the base support passives, though I've found the most fun comes with no uptie ids on the bench.
@@ryoshuirl I agree that double slotting is an upside.
But thats only for chain battles.
Human fights? You end the thing fast or you die, since you don't have enough slots to fully counter everything. (This is especially seen in canto 6 with the maid.)
FEISTY FLOWERS IN THE END CARD LET'S GO
I will admit though that playing Lobotomy Corp Ironman mode is like 5x more fun than relentlessly savescumming.
I have 150 hours on limbus and i had no idea there are clock abilities
As a new player whose brain is filled with win rate I can safely say this all seems too easy and even I would have no issue
Really cool! 👀
Frey heard pm fans can't read and decided to at least make us do some math before every encounter
seems still too easy but fun
edit: aleph seems like a challenge actually, cool video
Yeah. Midway through I realized it wouldn't hit for the most hardcore players yet. But that's okay. I'd rather leave something harder for casual players that still have some breathing room than go to extremes.
Depending on how Canto VII goes, I may make a followup with more restrictions, as long as they lead to interacting with the game in a new way that doesn't get overly-repetitive. We'll see.
Why didn’t you mention the secret fight against Casino Security Chief after Canto 3?
It's a stream exclusive
Bro i cant even beat a 3-4/3-5 with evo heatcliff 3 star and ryoshi 3 stars😭
Pchal reference? W
You did not just do this to me!
I’m officially out of characters by now already.
if ya want another suggested 'difficulty', you could add "only one 000 ID at a time" which removes 1 000 ID each time you use it in a bossfight(this allows a single ID to be used through a dungeon, but you swap it out each abno battle, for example)
I like that. I may make a followup some time after Canto VII with some additional variants and think a 'Team '0' Cap' could be fun
@@FreyCheqama it feels like a more interesting way to do the ALEPH version of the nuzloke... well, not 'more interesting' a 'more possible' one from some perspectives. especially since you need to carefully pick and choose who you use in each canto
You should do it at Uptie 1 next time.
13:30 why are you using soda hong lu
Dopamine
17:48 oh it's possible with some sacrifices, blood and a bunch of tears.
But in an enviroment where death is considered permanent.. eh... well...
I personally wouldn't recomment it.. unless you add a special rule that
said IDs are death afterwards but can redo this specific stage as many
times as it takes in order to spare the other two stars from follwing them
into an early but quiet painful grave of endless bleed/sinking x'DDD
"Hard mode nuzlocke" My ass, take a look at md2h and then look into my eyes, was this too easy for you?
I'm sorry, but yes. A thousand times yes.
I tried to beat lob corp without resests.
fuck it imma try this
Awesome video as always, Frey! i will not be participating in this challenge because i am not brave. Tell gregor i said congrats
Don Shnack cameo!?
I just think he's neat
19 Minutes of Yapin. But i`l do it
3:32 rogged
Would you love me if I was a roach?
nah i'd winrate
WHAT DO YOU MEAN GREGOR IS PREGNANT?????
We can't undo it
Okay but why tho
holy shit its woman
Pokemon sucks. Love Misdreavus though. The first pokemon that connected with me. I'll always love her.
Limbus company is not easy. The first 6 Cantos are just a tutorial, like in Library of Ruina. I presume in Canto 7 not only Don's dream will end.
i dont think that's gonna be case, limbus already has multiple casual filters (4-48, 5-30)
@@bruh_8129problem there is that some fights get nerfed further than it should, see also 6-48
@@holycheeseduck4729 was 6-48 nerfed? i played right on release and it was piss easy, 4-48 was a fucking NIGHTMARE as a beginner though, had to resort to the molar ishmael solo strat
I’m crine bro been playing limbus since launch and pronounces “zayin” as “zaieen”
Hey, it's not that bad. I've been playing LobCorp since 2019.
You had me up until that last part. Unsubing *Likes the video.*
Screw locking specific 3 star ID's or permanent death
Full base id/ego playthrough GO
0:34 to be honest someone might see that and go “doesn’t look too bad considering how fucked up everything else in PM’s universe seems to be, I’ll try it”
No you should have shown them Binah
0:36 The funny part is that I literally am
It sucks really bad
Godspeed, Manager
2:49 I don't even have most of the ids in limbus after 250+ hours
to be fair I did only start halfway through season 4 though