New Milwaukee Tools PACKOUT 2-Wheel Cart Dolly IS HIGHLY DISAPPOINTING!
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- Опубліковано 5 гру 2020
- New Milwaukee Tools PACKOUT 2-Wheel Cart Dolly IS HIGHLY DISAPPOINTING! In this video we show the #verycoolgang the new Milwaukee Tools PACKOUT 2-wheel cart/dolly (48-22-8415) that we were super excited to get our hands on but unfortunately is highly disappointing and a total let down. Make sure to watch through the whole video until the end to see why we are highly disappointed in this new PACKOUT 2-wheeled cart from Milwaukee tools. Let us know your thoughts on this new PACKOUT 2-wheel cart dolly from Milwaukee tools in the comments section below!
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This is why I trust VCG guys. Call them Milwaukee shills/fanboys all you want, they still criticize them when they feel they need to.
exactly right...its been done a few times already 👍
An honest review will often favor Milwaukie, they make some good tools that have stood the test of time. Even though we've upgraded to battery tools the old 38 year old Milwaukie saw still gets broken out every house to rip 2x4's into 2x2's for the soffit. A few sets of brushes and a few cords over the years and that saw has cut a 2 by at least around the Earth once.
@@rogerflanigan6427 agreed! When he started talking shit about the plastic holding up over time I was like wait isn't this gna piss off Milwaukee lol. Love the honest reviews.
Milwaukee: Vince is suggesting get back to the drawing board...better quality, lower price. Thanks VCG!
Gonna be hard to lower the price when the local company here making them wants more money to make them because of how "hard" they are to make vs other hand trucks. Milwaukee and us customers have really high standards. It probably could come in lower price but then they would be even crappier.
100% agree $120 price point. MAXX!! Or build it to last. To get the $199.
For the price, it needs to be aluminum not plastic and the wheels rubber not hard plastic. Hard plastic wheels will mark-up and scratch finished floors that the customer will not be happy with.
Yes the hard plastic wheel is my biggest complaint.
The damn costume and their happiness
@@dwightsnoot7742 Lmfao, it took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about. I went back an fixed it.
I’m glad to see you give an honest review. Milwaukee should listen 👂
Needs to be no-flat tires sized like a standard handcart has. The company i work for had bought a appliance dolly from lowes and the only issue we have is the hard plastic wheels, tractor supply has one identical except it has plastic rims with rubber overmolded tires i think its cheaper too
thoughts, Just buy a metal dolly and bolt a Milwaukee mounting plate to it.
Good solution. If you get a Harper hand truck you could even say they came out of the same building as the plastic one.
or don't and have a functional dolly. Just ratchet straps to the rear rails like I do.
@@mdeamicis What do you mean, you ratchet strap your packout boxes to the a regular dolly?
Before all this packout crazyness I used a bunch of milkcrates and ratchet strapped them to my hand-truck. Then throw the tool duffel on top. The drill boxes like to slide around and would always slide off.
Great idea just don't buy the milwaukee handcart I bought one last year on pre black Friday and one wheel holders that swings out when you unfold, busted going across brick side walk, still works but does not gold out on its own. Didn't make a year, I'm glad I got half price.
that dolly is more like a "As seen on TV" product.....$29.95
With a few payments
But wait.....there’s more!!...You’ll receive not just one packout dolly, but act now and get a second for no additional cost.
You can't collapse the handle so you can't open the boxes without removing them like you can on the rolling tool toolbox. The boxes with drawers that are soon to be released would work well on this.
That being said, the rolling toolbox should have had drawers for the base unit so you could have access with other boxes on top.
Ya a rolling toolbox with drawers is a common ask I see. I don't like my current packout setup. I need to make rolling dollies for them that I can slide a hand truck into as needed. Preferably a system that can tackle wood stairs in a delicate fashion while holding 300lbs or so.
Before that though I need to make bays in my vehicle to hold my stacks in transport. Things have been getting shifty now that stacks are growing taller.
My take as a UPS driver that uses a dolly hundreds of times a day. It flexes like crazy just moving it around without a load. It also looks really wide and the two handed latches for the bottom would drive me bonkers. Think Milwaukee didnt think this one out.
Definitely could use a roll pin spring loaded hinge w/ pressure latch on that base to solve two problems. It would eliminate the two separate release latches to fold AND hold the flipped base tight to the handle while folded away as it was noted in the beginning of the video there is no latch or catch. Def not 2 C-note worthy.
Which one would you sugg3st?
A better solution is probably to modify a traditional hand truck and affix Packout adapters (such as the wall mount or truck mounts). You'll forgo the collapsible and compact features, but it'll definitely be more durable (especially the wheels). I've also seen some cool long-tool storage adapters (I think they're 3rd party products) that can attach to the corner rails of the Packout boxes that can hold levels, squares, etc and I've even seen one for a ladder. Thanks for the honest review as always!
Ya I'm looking @ making rolling dollies with packout mounts. I'm not certain I like lots of the rail mods. They add to the dimensions of the boxes that are already battling for space on transport for me. I'm not ruling them out completley, but for now it's a no go. After I get the vehicle more sorted I may have room for some on the side of one stack.
Solid rubber tires + steel construction = winner and a must buy!
i agree but the bean counters at milwaukee will say that cart should be $400 then...it never ends...
@@kingofthecrease30 I hear ya but a more durable model that would last would be a nice option.
@@dennyk2294 agreed
@@dennyk2294
Milwaukee sells a regular steel hand truck on Amazon for $137. This shouldn't be more expensive.
All someone has to do a mod a steel frame hand truck with packout attahments.
If they made it really nice, then they wouldn't be able to release a Gen 2 version.
Yea, see you in a year or so, at VCG video talking about the gen 2 dolly.
@@eliadbu they should have made a metal frame with plastic anker points then they could upgrade to metal anker's on the 2nd gen. But 200$ for plastic hand truck? You can buy all metal higher weight capacity had trucks for 150 or all I would do is purchase a anker bracket and weld it to the bottom then I can stack my packout I would still come in lower then 200$
@@ericspeeder20226789should've could've would've, doesn't matter people expect the most durable solution for that cash. Could be great plastic but in the end plastic is plastic.
I know, right? Like they did with the Gen1 brad nailer. They get to sell the same item twice.
@@JohnnyUmphress TBH bad or subpar products damage your brand name. Companies like milwaukee would prefer to maintain good brand name and not rely on releasing product that are no good just to release new revision that fix them.
I won't be buying it. I was expecting it to be like the toughsystem cart. The toughsystem setup is more versatile.
Never!
So Im an hvac installer and use this cart and love it. I bring in the pack outs I need with my dolly. Then use this dolly to pull their old furnace out and bring the new one in. Handles weight surprisingly well. And being plastic it’s so light weight.
Thank you so much for showing us that Vince. I can’t believe they would put plastic on that thing. Especially in areas that are going to receive alot of punishment and stress. It seems like that thing would break after one use. Taking it on and off of the truck going up and downstairs. The torquing and twisting on the frame depending on how much weight you load it with, I would expect it to snap in half. LOL. I was really looking forward to buying it but I’m glad I saw your video first. You just saved me 2 hundo brother. That thing needs to be way more heavy duty. Maybe bigger tires as well. I don’t think I see those little wheels making it across some job sites specially after rain or snow. They’re just simply too small to skinny. Put beefier tires on it and an all metal frame while keeping the price the same, then and only then would I buy one. I’m very disappointed with this offering and expected a lot more from Milwaukee.
Thanks for the honest review; really glad I passed on this item. Milwaukee needs to ask themselves, “Does this need more metal?” And the answer is almost always yes. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Thank you Vince as always for your wonderful review of tools. I agree with you $200 for plastic is a little hefty, but the only way they(Milwaukee) will learn to structure the price correctly is by people not buying it. I own the Dewalt cart that you showed in one of your reviews and it is heavy duty and it works for me in my warehouse,but I don’t think I would spend $200 on this and I am a huge,huge,huge Milwaukee fan! So when they put it on clearance then and only then I would buy it. Why wouldn’t they use steel verses plastic? Obviously it’s a dollar thing with them, so the end-user has to be a dollar thing with them also! Who will win this war? We will see in time.
Hopefully the consumer.
Also like to take this time to thank you again for all the hard work that you do day in and day out! It’s not easy doing all the legwork, filming etc... on a daily basis and all for your viewers. I for one am extremely grateful for all you!!! You’re amazing my friend… Simply amazing! Bob
I appreciate the feedback Bob, I for one feel that the cross members on this unit need to be metal! Popping that crate in and out over time on the top crossmember will likely cause failure! Even if Milwaukee made those improvements to this cart, I don’t think the market would pay more than the 200. Thanks brother, and have an awesome day!
Yeah, I agree. Maybe some aluminum in that frame would be better than plastic.
@@zapadeeboom that was my first thought yesterday at home depot.
Can anyone say Milwaukee compressor
Hey Bob, I completely agree with you. Hopefully nobody buys this piece of junk. I cannot believe they would put plastic on this thing in a vulnerable area were it should obviously be metal. People like you, me, Vince, and pretty much everybody else on this channel would break this thing in 1 use. All the torquing and twisting you would cause bringing it up and down stairs loading it off and on the truck. Rolling it around rough terrain. The thing would twist apart and snap in half.That’s really disappointing as I am also a huge huge Milwaukee fan. I expected a lot more from our beloved Milwaukee.
Damn I was stoked for this till he pointed out all that "plastic" come on milwaukee what were you thinking asking $200 for a "plastic" hand truck wtf?
90% percent of my tools is Milwaukee and a lots of packout cases, i’m in the construction business. Milwaukee should re design this cart, Dewalt has a good one! I was really glad when milwaukee had presented this one this year, but the closing feature for the bottom plate seems bad and too many plastic pieces is never good especially for a tool that’s meant to take some what of a beaten. Milwaukee also needs an individual big box like the old cart. I honestly hope that Milwaukee modifies the new cart, i’ll pay the extra bucks for a cart that’s heavy duty and that’s going to make my job easier!
With all the aftermarket packout pieces out there, you could buy a regular hand truck and just make your own. It would definitely outlast the Milwaukee one
For sure. Save money too
Pretty much just added that same comment above, I could make a loads better version of this with an all metal £50 sack trolley and some aftermarket packout cleats! It’d be loads better too!
My bad, I posted something similar and I was late to the party. I agree with using our ingenuity and aftermarket accessories. Who sells aftermarket items for packouts, btw?
exactly , for $ 200 dollars i can build my own , have fun building it and it will be way more durable. Packout in general is great but too damn expensive. I only own a couple pieces that i rarely take off the truck.
I like packout. Mostly. I use them all the time. 90% of the pack outs I have came as part of tool deals. So I saved a lot of money that way
Yep, $200 is a lot for plastic. Also, the fact that you have to hang a pack-out crate on the easily broken plastic hanger before you can stack things up top is disappointing as well.
I agree…looked at this product in Home Depot. After realizing the amount of mastic involved, went to Harbor Freight, bought a 500lb Dolly and mounted a Packout plate on the base. Less than $100 total investment and will outlast this Milwaukee product hands down. Thanks Vince!
I’m sticking with the Dewalt tough system. The wall mount system is phenomenal. I can grab any box I want without unstacking half of my tools. Also, their cart is built like a tank. Nice review!
Facts
Milwaukee already gives us a plastic cart on the PackOut system. I don't like the wheels inside the rail, outside the rail would give a wider stance and throw on the rugged terrain wheels from the PackOut. Move the tall tool holder to the outside rails so those tools aren't smacking us in the face. Lower the price after all that is fixed.
I am with you on placement of the tall tool holders, I thought Vince was going to knock himself in the face with it.
@@dougw9239 Yeh, Vince played it off well when the T-Square almost smacked him 😂
Vince +1 long term view.
I'm not a contractor. My tools are my tools. I still tend to buy commercial stuff (when I can afford it) so I know it will hold up to the miss-use I'll most likely put it through. I live in north (like north north) wisconsin. Stuff gets cold. I was so excited when this was coming out as I could use it is a two wheeler. As well as for my limited packout stuff (squirrel: I dream of having a packout container for all of my Milwaukee tools. That way you just grab the stapler packout, or the router packout, haven't figured out the table saw yet) but with so much of it being plastic, I worry how it will fare at -20.
I don't know that it'll stop me from buying it anyway (might take a few paydays to get two hundred bucks).
Thanks for the continued honest reviews.
Great review and props to big red for offering this. I'm a Plumber and already invested into team yellow racking system including their hand truck version years ago and I use it for water heaters. I've since ditched all my team yellow tools and replaced them with a mix of team orange octane/team red, but keeping the team yellow racking system because I like how van, shop racks and cart use the forks which allows convenient access to individual boxes without the need to separate them. Plus I love how I can fold the forks flat to wall in my van for open space to carry large items.
Great vid Vince. Your correct, the whole cart needs to be metal. My electrical tool box weighs 60lbs alone. It would rip the clips right out of that thing. Especially rolling around muddy, rocky rough construction sites. And on that note, wider tires would be nice too. It seems they made a 'mall crawler' that's all flash and no beef.
One reason why I use Ridgid portable toolboxes. I beat the heck out of them and they're inexpensive enough to replace when I need to.
thank you for sharing. Great video as always. Love your honest. I agree with you on the cart and its all plastic built. Living in the Chicago where once winter sets in and the temps are below 30 for 2 to 3 months, I believe like you it will not last. Also the extreme temp changes from outside to inside. Over the years I have cracked a few pack out boxes in the winter, when one fell out of the back of the truck and another hit the corner of a build when carrying it.
I would like more metal on the main structure of the cart.
I wondering if Milwaukee is getting a little greed on their pricing, because of their popularity with consumers.
All the best to you and your family.
To you and yours as well Wayne, thanks! 👍🏻
I was going to buy that, I have some new appliances coming and I need a new 2 wheeler. Broke mine last year. That is too much plastic thanks for the heads up VeryCoolGang
It would be nice if it was made of metal, then it may be worth that price point. It does have a lifetime warranty however. Totally agree, if it was cheaper, it’s a no brainer. I’m up here in Canada and it actually get cold here, sub zero temperatures are a concern.
They need to redesign that cart and the new pack out light charger. They would have done better bringing out an m18 packout coffee maker!
Now that sir is great freaking idea!!👍
Get a large dolly with a large bass player and use the wall plates that Milwaukee has attach them to the base plate and there you go Milwaukee dolly
You said it first....
Buy an aluminum plate from jake of all and see if he could make a quick attach to the cart you buy.
Only downside is will it fold up
Thats pretty important
Yep use the other brand Milwaukee that makes dollies and the name and colors will match.
That’s how I feel about Milwaukee. They make some really nice stuff, but when I needed to start getting some tools, and didn’t have a ton of money, I decided to go with a Ryobi combo package. I know they’re not exactly the same, but I got a drill, impact, circ saw, recip, multi tool, a couple other tools (I can’t remember), 2 batteries, charger, and a bag for $300. I probably would have had to shell out like $1,200 for Milwaukee. Yes, they probably would have been better, but the Ryobi stuff has served me well. I just recently started getting into the M12 stuff though.
Thank you for this video. I was really considering this dolly until you mentioned other people loading it in the truck. In my industry, that is exactly what happens on the daily. Of course, I didn't realize it was all plastic until you mentioned. Extremely helpful!
I went with the rigid boxes several years ago and have been happy with them, but I do look at the variety of pack out accessories with a little bit of jealousy. That is until I see the prices. It's sort of like buying popcorn in a movie theater. Milwaukee puts a really high markup on packout things because you are a captive consumer. The $300 radio is a good example. That's crazy.
I was really excited about this but the plastic put a damper on things. I am not even upset about the price just wish it was more metal and I would grab one today. This is why I wait for a VCG review before I purchase. Thanks for the insight
Highly agree!
Love to see how well this holds up. Best cart system I've seen so far was made from an old beer keg dolly. The plumbers that do our houses built it, routered piece of 3/4" plywood for the base and it locks in with the Dewalt boxes. Slide the original base out of the metal rails/slot on the plywood base and it's off to get the crates full of parts. A piece of sheet metal between the handles flattens the back out and creates a spot for short pipe pieces.
I agree with you Vince.. Too much plastic!!!!!
I wasn’t planning on getting this, there are so many aftermarket add ones to the system that make it manageable, but as soon as you put the crate on and I saw how wobbly it was, I would never consider this, especially at the price.
Biggest reason I'm looking at it is to have a tool cart with the drawer containers. If they make a tool cart like the previous one, but with drawers, I'm on board. This might actually be what I'm looking for, even though it seems shotty for hauling concrete around. I just want a tool cart, and I love the long storage and the ability to add the drawer containers instead of regular ones you can't access without taking all of them apart first.
Vince: you beat me to the video reviewing this utlility cart. I bought yesterday after staring at it for 40 mins at HD. Then, i said let's just buy it and see. When got home first thing my father in law complained about is all the plastic and weight capacity for $199. I was thinking the same thing at HD before buying it. I dont understand why did milwaukee use so much plastic combined with metal. The top hanging part should have been metal like the bottom plate. And the entire frame is plastic maybe it's a good idead for cutting down on the weight but, not durable enough. Maybe they should have used Aluminum atleast. The latchs for the bottom plate are a joke almost broke them the first time not to mention it's very akward to fold it in. Not to mention mine was all scratched up since the guys at home depot dont care they were draging them on the floor. Also, some customers were doing the same. I PERSONALLY like my tools look in perfect condition. If i'm paying top dollar for brand new tool, it should be handled better. That's one thing i dont like about HD.
Sorry i forgot to thank you for the video. Thanks for the video. Great review one of the best. I'm returing the utility dolly tomorrow.
WOW. The folks over at Mil tools arent too happy this morning! LOL
honest review....just because milwaukee sends stuff for review doesn't mean it has to be positive...vince tells it like it is
@@kingofthecrease30 Amen to that!
Didn’t need this video to know this thing was junk, but thank you for bringing it to the publics attention. Great job guys as always!
Cheaply built but charge a high price, I think they designed those that way so it won't last long and they want the consumer to keep buying a replacement.
its made in USA so that's how they justify the price...take $50 off for made in china
If its a piece of junj though and breaks right away, whos gonna wanna buy another one from milwaukee
That's the thing, I refrained myself from buying that cart for $199, I won't be getting one for that price even though it's made (assembled) in the US with global materials, I'd like to see some rugged testing and user information to convince me to make an expensive purchase.
You made a lot of very reasonable points. I also don't see this cart holding up to construction employees. It's not theirs, they don't csre. "The company has plenty of money." How many times have you heard that?
Thank you Vince, at that price point the dolly should be all steel or heavy duty aluminum with solid rubber wheels and a little taller
Definitely think this should have been $129 max. And they could offer a "Pro" version with more metal construction for the $199 price point. With the Packout system, customization seemed to be one of the key selling points. Imagine if this cart was all metal and that metal panel in the back was attached by bolts and you could swap it out with different panels that do different things. Like instead of a panel to hang packout boxes there could be a curved panel so things like water heaters would sit centered more easily. Or another panel that has another horizontal surface on it so you can have multiple layers of things you can carry, etc... I think that would have been worth $199 and they could make money from different attachment pieces to customize the dolly...
Should been an all metal body. Specially during cold temps makes material brittle. My radius light fell about 18 inch from side of truck and cracked the whole top light still works but I think it was rated for 6 ft drop. I was a fan at first for this hand truck but after this not so much I’ll take. It for maybe 99
No this plastic doesn't become brittle with cold Temps like abs plastic does.
I am so happy you guys are calling Milwaukee out for this. Everywhere I have called Milwaukee out for this plastic dolly everyone seems to jump to their defense. I love Milwaukee, and I have rarely been dissapointed by their products, but this was a huge miss and feels like a cash grab to me...
Honest review and observations! I expect an all metal dolly. Plastic is for the Packout Boxes/Bins/Crates. Thank you Vince. -Oakland California
Good points, Vince
They need to either lower the price, or make it with more metal.
This version should be $100 and a “pro” model, made of metal, for $199
When the motivation of innovation is to “design to fail” we get products liken this. Instead of with quality designs and functions to last a generation at least........
Idk, reinforced plastics have come along way. Milwaukee IMO has proved itself to be pricey yes, but durable and high quality with innovative design. I see your point though.
This hand cart might not be the best quality but the pack out system as a whole is superb quality. The plastic is incredibly durable and will last unless you really abuse your tools
I agree with the packout system. My statement was a broad generality and was more referring to the new dolly. But as was mentioned above, you cant release and sell version x,y,z if you make it bullet proof the first time.
That makes no sense given the lifetime warranty. Have you used one? I drop mine out of my trailer everyday fully loaded about 2 1/2 feet from the trailer to the ground and hasn’t had a single issue. I move appliances daily and the plastic frame allows you to slide it up stairs without destroying the treads. I kinda wish the bottom had a plastic bottom so it wouldn’t scratch sliding around inside the job.
Please do a long term review. I work for a solar company and figured this would be a great solution to avoid carrying around the huge bottom tool box. But I have to load and unload my work truck daily so if you could do the testing so I don’t have too, from one vince to another that’d be pretty nifty.
Thank you for your honesty. I love Milwaukee tools too, but this one, just by looking at it, I can also tell it’s not going to last more than a few years. Especially when comparing it to a steel dolly that can last generations.
We need a head to head comparison Milwaukee pack out cart Vs. Dewatlt tough system cart..also its probably $200 to cover the warranty on the plastic? 🤷♂️ Great video VCG 👊
I don't believe it would survive my work environment for a year. I'm an appliance installer for Lowe's. Wall ovens, dishwashers, cooktops, ranges and exc exc. In and out of a truck multiple times a day.
Thanks for the honest review. I have been going back and forth deciding if it was going to be worth it. Now I know, hopefully they will come up with an all metal construction version and I am glad I didn't pull the trigger on the preorder.
Vince, I’m a huge Milwaukee fan, but there’s no way that I’m buying this hand truck. I think I’m going to use their mounting plate and make my own dolly out of it and use a hand truck that can slide into the mounting plate base. I’ll basically spend just a little more money on something that will last many, many times longer. Again, I love Milwaukee, but no way I’m spending $200 on a heap of plastic only to have it destroyed after a use or two on a “real job site”. I have no doubt Milwaukee can do better. Thanks for sharing!
The Dewalt one is almost all metal but leaves something to be desired as its super wide
Junk... we already pay premium prices from milwaukee..
Definitely want to see a follow up video about how its doing on the job site! Really want to pull the trigger on this but not sure if its worth the price tag. Thanks for the honest review 👍
Very good review and I really respect your opinion. I take care of my tools, I am the type of guy that actually regularly oils my adjustable wrenches and pliers and I looked at that with all the flimsy plastic and I thought I (who takes good care of his tools) would break that. My solution has been to buy a regular all aluminum hand truck, and I built a base that I can slip the tounge of the hand truck into, out of aluminum square stock with a packout mounting plate (the ones intended for a work van) attached to the top. Anyone with a welder and a half hour could easily make this and I actually think it is better because now I can dismount my packout stack in one piece and use my hand truck to then move other stuff. Also if you don't care about how the base looks just its function it could be made from 2x4s in about 5 minutes.
The dewalt toughsystem rolling cart I think is a better choice even if you are not in the toughsystem boxes you probably could just rig the packout boxes to work with it, the packout cart looks like a cheap toy you would buy at Walmart
I like the setup but I’m with you on the metal. Or lack there of. I have hesitated to buy one and that is why.
The only R&D that went into this was how do we make a metal handcart into a plastic one with more versatility, they made this outta plastic so it'll break sooner and by then you'll be hooked on the versatility it offers over a metal cart and buy another one!!
Would love to see a follow-up after some hard use! Thanks for being up front about it.
I'm a milwaukee fan boy, but yes I do appreciate an honest review. And yes I want more metal! 🤘
Yo bro, make sure you wear this safety glasses. Also, do they ship these to Indonesia?
He's wearing the glasses because some guy is handling his tool... Never know what might happen.
5:44
5:44 Who does that?
I live somewhere that gets close -40 every winter, I don't think I'd trust to use one of these on a cold winter day without taking extra care which would not always be on my mind early in the morning on a cold winter day. Was considering it but unless the price goes down I don't think I could commit to it as is.
Back in the early 2000s I was working with my father and we picked up the contract Coinmach Industries they used to be one of the largest washer and dryer companies. They used to be up and down the East Coast in the basement apartment building Coinmach and Hercules where the 2 biggest companies on the East Coast. They passed a law that washing machine had to be a foot off the ground so are used to remove everything mix 80lb bags of Ready-Mix concrete anywhere from around 100 to 200 bags turn everything was by hand truck because you had to go down the stairs and move over a long distance. But even with our hand tools this will be nice I like the wheels being on the inside not to hit door frames😎👍👊🇺🇸
I really do like the idea of the pack out system. BUT, the pricing is pretty ridiculous. Honestly I think they could half the prices of most of the items, and they would sell like hot cakes. I have seen more people go with the rigid pro box system or the Dewalt tough system over the pack out just on price alone.
DeWalt's two-wheel cart is also built wayyy tougher than Milwaukee's.
Good review Vince! helps me with decisions as I moved forward with my organization efforts.
Always appreciate your work, and especially the honesty in this review. I did feel like it was a bit steep at that price point but still miles above the $50 plastic surface piece, that one was a bridge too far. This one just seems like it'd probably be better valued at the $100 - 125 mark like you had mentioned. Because I do see this lasting maybe a season, and while I'd not like dropping another hundo every year for a new one because the packout versatility does seem to be pretty awesome, two Benjamins does make the potential cost, sting a whole lot more!
I have the 800lb plastic hand truck. Been in use for 10 years in the sun most of the time. It doesn't move super heavy loads but it moves a/c's that can be up to 350lbs. I understand the questioning but I will trust it.
You're better off buying a reliable aluminum COSCO, Safco, or Magliner hand truck for less.
Sorry I am late i was getting a Christmas tree! I like my tough system! I would switch to pack out if they made a pack-out coffee maker! Thx for this review! Hit that like button!
Thanks so much for the honest opinion I almost pulled the trigger. Maybe I will get a second rolling box instead!
@VCG Construction. Thanks Vince for your honest review of that new Milwaukee PACKOUT hand truck. Knowing you're a Milwaukee fan and say not only what's good but what's bad keeps us in the know. Real bummer about all that plastic. Even your Dewalt ToughSystem L Cart carrier is pretty much all metal and is cheaper. Of course Dewalt does a bone headed thing and doesn't include the rear locking bracket on their 2.0 boxes so you can lock the boxes to the carrier. It's a step back for those with the L Cart carrier that works great with 1.0 boxes.
Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
Hey Vince!!!!! Have a Wonderful Christmas
Im sure that 200$ has injury compensation in mind.
You mean for whenever you takes a level to the face?
@@mdeamicis that or drop a couple hundred pounds of what ever you are trying to take up some stairs on your co worker because the metal handle popped off the plastic body.
I appreciate the honest review.. I really want this or the rolling toolbox..I desperately need transport, but I think I'm going to keep using my wheel barrow for now.. maybe I'll weld some brackets on a real dolly for long stuff.. who knows.. might even attach a Packout bracket...
thanks for the ideas 👍
I have the original packout dolly and I don't abuse my tools. About a month after owning it I started to notice that the extension handle started to warp and wasn't able to slide in and out with ease anymore. I still however still use it and find it very useful, I always keep abs fittings in it so that im not carrying around heavy stuff with whatever I do need to attached to the dolly. I really hope Milwaukee sees this and makes a change to start building dollys with the same quality as they do their power tools and the tool boxes that attach to the packout system..
Happy Sunday VCG
yo stephen lee...what's good bro ?
1000% ACCURATE.
Update on tool deals: Went to Lowe’s (in Central New Jersey) today. Those Kobalt kids toys (scooter/Jeep) already on clearance... sorta slow selling but still awesome. There was a good deal on a Craftsman 6 piece power tool set too. Some 5 dollar hammers and stuff like that too. Fairly decent deals on Craftsman compressors and kits. Aside from that nothing out of this world.
I saw this at the store last week and didn't think it was worth the cost. A new dolly with a few brackets and some mods would get me the same thing without all of the plastic. Thanks for the review.
the real question is...can Vince wheel that cart around with 400 lbs on it 🤔 😂😂
Milwaukee: Let’s compete with those metal hand trucks with plastic and since we got a packout ecosystem, we can raise the prices.
This is like the same stuff apple does in the tech market.
I'm a rescreener of pool enclosures. I see where your coming from. Theres no cover over the axle rod. Which I'm sure if it hits something itll get bent. Sitting out in Florida heat for a year or 2. I'll have to test it. Thanks for the Video.
As an HVAC installer, I’m hauling some heavy-a$$ equipment all day through tight spots and all types of terrain, plastic won’t last me a week. Thanks for pointing that out.
LEDs cost nothing now. I can get a 3000 lumen LED COB for $5 on eBay shipped.
Seriously, I was thinking the same thing. That light box is a rip off. Their light stand is also too expensive
For the lights it about the housing more than the lumens
I bought 100's of LED lights of all kind and much higher lumens than most lights sold at big stores. All from ebay.
@@petergingerelli1189 true good point
I agree, I've been waiting for a foldable dolly for the packout and feel so let down by this I wont even purchase this.
The tricky part is getting any hand truck for a reasonable price. I've thought about converting a Magliner for packout, the convertible type would be awesome but that's in the 300-500 dollar price range. Even the most rickety carts at HD are north of 100 bucks.
I used a Magliner religiously for 10 years and still have it. I didn't care what truck I had to use that day but HAD to have that Magliner. I see the ones available at the retailers as substandard.
I just bought a regular heavy duty dully and use metal screws to hold down the wall mount they sell you, problem fixed, now i feel confident its really heavy duty and waaay less expensive
Tell us the Truth Vince!
I'd jump for $99 but not $199
I was gonna post this verbatim, i would even say $79 is the better price point. lets face it this is not gonna be a Hand truck for anything but packout those plastic back supports need support from the boxes to have any kind of strength.
Looking forward to the long term review. I've been checking the system out and I'm hoping they come out with an improved version or a version that allows you to replace parts that crack 🤷♂️
Vince. With all the aftermarket pack out accessories out there. It would be interesting to see a “real” hand truck modified to receive packout.
For $200 I don't think it should have any plastic! I live in MN and I'm only a diy chick but I haul my stuff around and I would end up breaking that in the cold temps here! 👍 Great video Vince!
My solution is to not put large tools down on the bottom. I put things I will use every day plus things that can hide and that I might need. The big tools stay in the cross box and if I need them I just set them on top or in a crate. I personally dont want a large dolly taking up space either so not likely going to sped 200 bucks on something any dolly can do without plastic for less than a 100 bucks.
Vince, I agree, Milwaukee is way out over their skis on this one regarding price! Injected molded plastic works for pack out boxes etc. but not for a hand truck or dolly. You can buy a decent steel one from HF, weld on a couple of tabs to attach Milwaukee's hanging brackets, have real rubber wheels (won't scratch floors) a rattle can of red paint and presto, a red 600 lb. rated dolly that won't snap in the cold weather and your guys will have to try hard to beat it up for a $100. Just say'in............
Someone who is into welding and fabricating should make a dolly out of aluminum and teach Milwaukee how it should have been done and would make a fortune in the process. I absolutely agree this dolly would fail in short time. I am a little pissed because I was hoping this was going to be a decent product and I was going to buy one and order some of the new drawers to customize my system without the big box on the bottom that you can’t get to without unloading everything else off first. Very disappointed. Thanks Vince for an honest review and opinion.
In all honesty I have this piece and I love it. It has came in very handy. But I truly agree with the entire price point and the high amount of plastic. The red plastic seems flimsy, and I couldn’t get a perfect condition pack-out dolly until the third try. Yes I had to buy and return twice before I got it in the third time. It had cracks In the red mounting plate for the crate the first time. And the second time it was the red bin where the long storage tools go as well as one of the diagonal black plastic supports. Price could be lower or quality could be better. I still handle it with care because I’m afraid of it breaking on the job site. This does add up time to my packing and unpacking as I’m sure many of us are used to tossing tools in and out and get going.