The great thing about French cars is that they always knew how to make incredibly confortable cars while keeping them very performant where road holding always exceeded any japanese. Luxury should mean a smooth and relaxing ride.
@@kamrankhan-lj1ng One Scottish person told me today that he used to own a Renault Laguna and drove many times each week between Aberdeen and Glasgow and loved it as it is was so pleasant and dependable in any weather as it handled the road better or comparable to the luxurious Germans.
In Quebec, I met a police officer who loved owning the 505 GT and he told me that he would be able to go faster in curves then any of the police cars they had.
@@questioner1596 Indeed, even with my Mazda, I could not reach the cornering abilities of the 505 and then later 405 that were even as good as BMWs and beating the Celicas.
@@questioner1596 The actual Chevy and Ford police cruisers were actually tuned with reinforced suspensions to handle like sports cars but a standard French saloon cars would outperform them. If you have chance try a 405 or even an Eagle Premier (Renault 25).
When I was a kid in the 80's, I thought the 505s were some of the coolest looking 4 door cars out there. I also had a thing for the Audi 5000 as well (I owned one of those in the late 90's). Would love the opportunity to own a 505 Turbo (manual trans) but those cars are so rare to find these days.
LOL my first car was a 87 Jetta GLI 5 speed manual with moon roof. And I'm very thankful that there are WAY better cars to own than a 80s or 90s Jetta or Golf.
I prefer our 89 Jetta over anything we’ve owned, all 3-4 cars 2004 or newer. The simplicity, feel, comfortable seats, handling, responsiveness, quality was very good. Tgevsunroofvwas freat, no electric crap to break. New VWs are just not as good. Even back to back to 1993. They lost the feel, simplicity, charm, and fun.
ZN: 87-91 505 Turbo 5-Speed sedans were quick indeed(Turbo wagon was never offered with the Beefy Diesel 5 Speed do to problems of no room in the torque-tube/transmission mount for the "live" banjo axle )....0-60 in 7.8 seconds and that was with awful Turbo Lag, a tall 1st gear and a high 3.46 rear cog....if it were geared like the M3 or 190 16 valve,would have easily smoked either...but both the 5-Speed and horrible ZF automatic were geared for 2,000 rpms at 60 mph...and way quieter on any road surface than the competition of that era. I have a 87 Turbo 5-Speed...ride the clutch before launch (to get the Turbo spooled up)....it will smoke the tires a whole lot.
Peugeot made VERY good looking cars back in the day, and 505 is definitely one of those! Although those American bumpers again try hard to make it look bad.
After 45 years of driving and 35+ cars and suvs, my all time favorite car I owned was the 1986 GTI I bought second hand. AC always on the fritz, but what a fun, practical, toss able car this was. Traded it for a 1990 Q45T. Faster but not nearly as fun.
I bought a first year GTI with a blown motor in it. Paid $200 for an engine out of a scirocco and drove the wheels off the car. It was lowered so it hugged the road so good it would scare friends how I could drive it. Miss that little beast.
In 1986, my grandma brought a brand new silver w/ black gray tweed cloth Jetta GL Wolfsburg Edition. As a kid, I thought it was ok, but I wanted her to purchase the ‘86 Chevy Z24 w/ the digital speedo. I’m glad she purchased the VW. It was a great car. Once I got my license I would washed her car at least twice a week in the summer so that I could drive to the car wash and hang out. Great times!
I drove a 1984 non turbo 5 sp manual for 26 years. Wish they’d keep making them. Very pleasurable to drive and easy to maintain when you understood them.
My mom had an 86 Jetta Carat and it was the most unreliable piece of shit ever but my parents and I loved it anyway. There was something special about this generation. The way it drove, it was so stiff and solid but tossable and super fun. Whenever I hear that old VW door chime, i'm transported back to this Jetta. My only regret is not buying it off my parents when they sold it.
+ mistertee Parents had a 87 Wolfsburg GLI 4 door.....total piece of shit.....always breaking down. They also had/have a 85 Peugeot 2.5 Turbo Diesel 5 speed..Jetta was a little quicker off the line and easier to toss around......but the TD was damn quick at highway speeds...go up any grade in 5th gear. Peugeot never broke-down....parents still have that oil burning slug along with the 300 TD...............yep.....Benz rides very crude and has always had hit and miss reliability/durability.
A bad VW is a terrifying experience. My dad still curses VWs to anyone who will listen even 20+ years after owning one. When I bought a Golf, he literally said "don't ask me to borrow money to fix it" while we were at the dealership in front of the sales guy. That is true hate.
I'm an 80's child, and I like (not love) the styling of these two, esp the Jetta. But 0 to 60 in 11 sec.....a newer Hyundai Accent will do it in around 8.5. How far we've come.
My father used to owned a 1988 Volkswagen Jetta Carat with the deluxe manual steel sunroof since I was a little kid. I remember he used to install some audio upgrades poorly!
My mom had an 87'' Peugeot Liberty wagon!It was sharp looking too! It always got mistaken for a Subaru legacy though.She said it was an awesome handling car!Drastic change from her the previous 76' Ford Thunderbird gas guzzling Be land yacht!Was a real pos though! She always said if somebody hit her an totaled it it would do her a favor to get it off her hands!One day somebody rear ended her and she went under a pickup!It was a total loss! Luckily she and my baby brother got out without a scratch!It was back to a Ford for her a 91'Mercury Sable!
Zachary P I miss Peugeot in the USA. Never owned one but loved their sportiness and French-ness...have driven a few in Europe over the years. The newer cars don’t have the same appeal and feel cheaper, perhaps because of their close association with Citroen. The 505 had a charm and a strong presence about it.
It's interesting to compare these performance variants' performance to a modern (2018+) Corolla. According to Motor Trend, the base 1.8L engine has 138 hp and with a CVT, posts a 10.2 sec 0-60, which is slow now but about the same as these cars. The upgraded 2.0L has 168 hp and a 7.3 sec 0-60 with the 6 speed manual.
My first car was a ‘91 VW GLI and selling it is my only regret in life 😂. I wouldn’t mind driving that beautiful car forever just with minor modifications and restoration over time.
B Gerbs - Don't know about Peugeot or Citroen but Renault is already in North America in disguise...as Nissan. Some Nissan's are basically cosmetically altered Renault's. The current Nissan X-Trail is a variation of the current Renault Scenic. The Nissan Versa Note is closely related to the Renault Cleo. They tend to have differing engine and transmission choices but that is commonly the case even when the exact same model is sold on both continents. Given the partnership / cross ownership /management (Nissan is run by a Frenchman who not only revived Renault but saved Nissan from bankruptcy), as well as the fact that Mitsubishi is now controlled by Nissan/Renault, I think that Renault is the least likely of all French brands to return. Renault would possibly cannibalize sales from Nissan and Mitsubishi so they would stay out of this market. Peugeot or Citroen may be another story, as they don't have such close tie ups with automakers in North America as Renault does. It may involve a purchase or merger. Fiat not only rescued Chrysler in the bailout for example...having booming Chrysler sales to lean on saved Fiat later on. A similar strategy might happen with Peugeot.
The Nissan Versa is actually a Renault Clio, so I hope they start selling the Renault Talisman, Megane or even Scenic, these cars can outmatch any korean or japanese. But I would reallt like the Citroen C5.
They were making the fastest diesel car of the planet at that time with the CX. Have you tried a 208 or even 308 ? Drab, surely not ! They have a history of nice and sportive cars. With my BMW 323, I raced a 605 in the tunnels of Geneva to Lyon and could not win over him.
@@archechme And I have driven the Mondeo and they are surely drab. I will have to try a Fiesta but in the past they were very dull compared to a 205 or even 206. I have tried a Citroen C3 in the past and one recently, surely as nice as a Honda Civic, so it depends which power plant but for road holding the C3 were excellent and dynamic. You should try a 508 which is considered more dynamic then an A4 or a Volvo.
Brings back memories from the 1980's when my parents drove a 505 DL. Being an "old school" diesel, it blew perfect smoke rings in the morning. Slow and loud. Considering this being the North America, the Peugeot was looked at as a very strange car. But I loved it. Peugeots are notoriously over engineered. You could tell they sweat every engineering detail, but it wasn't remotely reliable and parts were $$$!!!
+ di foo !! What are you talking about? Parts are extremely cheap/reasonaable on-line. My 1987 Liberte wagon has nearly 600,000 miles on it..only thing that's been replaced on the engine............was a water pump at 389,000miles. With a GM alternator...its costs $29.00+ at a local parts store. GM alternator rebuild-kits are available for $10.00+ on line. The problems that have occurred on the Peugeot.......is the German made ZF 4HP slushbox................that built a horrific reputation on BMWs,Jags,Range Rovers,Lincoln(BMW powered) Turbo Diesels,Volvos,etc. But with a competent transmission repair shop..................they can rid the ZF 4HP of its major flaw. my transmissions clutch-packs were drilled-out to ensure lubrication in Park/Neutral...............more so come smog-check time.
This is the first car for anybody who made rage comics with *le* in them. They're on the second market now and they deserve better than rage comics 2 (wojack) so i think this is an excellent baguettemobile to pick up bread and cheese from the café in the city.
Maestro_T Yeah, we just had lower expectations. After 180 HP Corvettes. THIS is the golden age of muscle cars. Right now. A base Accord four cylinder family car is 185 hp.
Clearanceman2 There is no doubt that cars are very powerful right now. Too powerful for most purposes, in my opinion. I actually wish there were smaller engine choices for better fuel economy. Will it stay that way? It's been that way for quite a while now. One striking thing in these retro videos is that Motorweek was actually getting very high fuel economy numbers in some cases (i.e., not just the EPA numbers which no one believes), and generally equal to or better than what they get now. Obviously the power discrepancy is huge, so one can only wonder how much better the fuel economy would be with lesser engines. (The market's love of SUV's doesn't help.) I don't personally want a return to 14+ second 0-60 runs, but I also don't need a car that does it in 7 or less on a daily basis....Probably not the most popular opinion on a car fanatic page. lol
Maestro_T Yeah, LOL I'm all for more power. Today's cars do it through turbos and 8 speed transmissions. Or CVTs. They are pretty heavy though with 20 air bags and all the side impact stuff plus electronic everything. So they need that power. The reason older cars go OK mileage was they didn't weigh anything. Trucks used to get horrendous mileage. Now it's just OK but it used to be truly awful. Son's 2002 4.3 liter S10 compact truck is rated 14 city 17 highway. My 2000 legacy is rated 21/28. Legacy is only 400 pounds lighter.
They should bring back hand-cranked sunroofs for entry level cars.
my 86 325e came with a hand-crank sunroof similar to that. had my mechanic swap in a power system I bought off ebay
manthony225 There's usually an emergency crank under a panel somewhere if you're really wont for manual labor.
+manthony225 Agreed!!
manthony225 yeah I agree I had a 98 an 02 an 04 now a 2013 gli looks audio ish
I actually kind of like it...for the amount of times I actually open my sunroof, losing the power stuff would be fine with me!
More peugeot 505 content please!
The great thing about French cars is that they always knew how to make incredibly confortable cars while keeping them very performant where road holding always exceeded any japanese. Luxury should mean a smooth and relaxing ride.
That is the only thing I love about french cars-- soft suspension.
@@kamrankhan-lj1ng One Scottish person told me today that he used to own a Renault Laguna and drove many times each week between Aberdeen and Glasgow and loved it as it is was so pleasant and dependable in any weather as it handled the road better or comparable to the luxurious Germans.
Confoort, thy name is Reno, Citro, puzho.
@@kamrankhan-lj1ng Panhard, Facel Vega, Simca, Talbot, Mathis, Bughatti, etc.
Luc Rolland smokes crack in France like every day.
In Quebec, I met a police officer who loved owning the 505 GT and he told me that he would be able to go faster in curves then any of the police cars they had.
I believe it, but imagine the 80s North American boats they used for police cars were pretty bad at cornering.
@@questioner1596 Indeed, even with my Mazda, I could not reach the cornering abilities of the 505 and then later 405 that were even as good as BMWs and beating the Celicas.
@@questioner1596 The actual Chevy and Ford police cruisers were actually tuned with reinforced suspensions to handle like sports cars but a standard French saloon cars would outperform them. If you have chance try a 405 or even an Eagle Premier (Renault 25).
I learned to drive on a 1987 Peugeot 505. I’ll never forget how ahead of its time it felt and how great it handled. Fun car.
From what I understand is the Peugeot (504 &505) is a popular car in Africa, it must be pretty durable design..
When I was a kid in the 80's, I thought the 505s were some of the coolest looking 4 door cars out there. I also had a thing for the Audi 5000 as well (I owned one of those in the late 90's). Would love the opportunity to own a 505 Turbo (manual trans) but those cars are so rare to find these days.
I saw a 505 wagon the other day I couldn't believe it looked daily driven
Loved my 1986 VW Jetta. Great handling and ride along with terrific looks. A winner in every category!
LOL my first car was a 87 Jetta GLI 5 speed manual with moon roof. And I'm very thankful that there are WAY better cars to own than a 80s or 90s Jetta or Golf.
I prefer our 89 Jetta over anything we’ve owned, all 3-4 cars 2004 or newer. The simplicity, feel, comfortable seats, handling, responsiveness, quality was very good. Tgevsunroofvwas freat, no electric crap to break. New VWs are just not as good. Even back to back to 1993. They lost the feel, simplicity, charm, and fun.
I had a '87 GLI that went a lot further (250,000+ miles) than you would expect. It was quirky but durable.
I love VW Jetta 1986. Very beautifull and great car. 85-88 Jetta is my favorites
@@edvinneluis2635 Jetta and Golf 85-88 is my favorites. I remember commercial It´s not a car It´s Volkswagen
"Our automatic Peugeout has one of the smokiest starts we have ever tested" ... yeah well that probably wasn't tire smoke, right?
ZN:
87-91 505 Turbo 5-Speed sedans were quick indeed(Turbo wagon was never offered with the Beefy Diesel 5 Speed do to problems of no room in the torque-tube/transmission mount for the "live" banjo axle )....0-60 in 7.8 seconds and that was with awful Turbo Lag, a tall 1st gear and a high 3.46 rear cog....if it were geared like the M3 or 190 16 valve,would have easily smoked either...but both the 5-Speed and horrible ZF automatic were geared for 2,000 rpms at 60 mph...and way quieter on any road surface than the competition of that era.
I have a 87 Turbo 5-Speed...ride the clutch before launch (to get the Turbo spooled up)....it will smoke the tires a whole lot.
@@dmcnamara9859 Thanks for clarifying.
I miss my ‘86 GLI. Nothing but trouble from day 1. But I loved driving that car.
Man that's awesome! What were your experiences with that car?
@@Saul_Soto82 Jetta GLi and GTi is nice and greats cars
i love these retro reviews. you guys have a gold mine of old video to share. keep it coming!
I love VW Jetta GLi 1985-1988, is my favorite
Peugeot made VERY good looking cars back in the day, and 505 is definitely one of those! Although those American bumpers again try hard to make it look bad.
Those bumpers were very effective.
After 45 years of driving and 35+ cars and suvs, my all time favorite car I owned was the 1986 GTI I bought second hand. AC always on the fritz, but what a fun, practical, toss able car this was. Traded it for a 1990 Q45T. Faster but not nearly as fun.
At 4:56, the warning buzzer sounds melodically like a doorbell!!
Its La Cucaracha song.
I bought a first year GTI with a blown motor in it. Paid $200 for an engine out of a scirocco and drove the wheels off the car. It was lowered so it hugged the road so good it would scare friends how I could drive it. Miss that little beast.
Been missing the Retro Reviews, Glad to see them back. And I LOVED hearing the La Cucaracha chime in the Jetta at 4:58!!!!!!!
That jetta looks so much more cool and refined than anything coming out of the big 3 in those days.
Love it!!!! Keep the classics coming!!!
My Mom had Peugeot 505 non turbo, it was a good car.
Look at that rear wheel lift up on the GLI on the slolom course!WEEE!
I clicked this video just to see how Americans pronounce Peugeot... I wasn't disappointed.
Don't count all of us in that mix.
Si1983h how your suppose to in the English languish
Puzo
Pougeot
Poo-Show.
My first car was an 86 GLI. I miss that car
I've owned a 3 door big bumper mark 2 golf gti for 10yrs and it's been great. Gets loads of attention. Just passed m.o.t without a problem!
I love that 505.
I had this car in Red with the teardrop rims. I loved my hand-cranked sunroof! One of my favorite cars and the only one I've ever wrecked.
4:37 there is a red Yugo, at the end of the runway :D
the back tire of the VW comes off the ground through the slalom lol
All VW's of that era did that. Looks weird but it's save xD
My 92 GTI does. Trademark.
Lift throttle oversteer is a feature, not a negative.
It's all about safety at high speed maneuvers without losing control.
I've heard them being called "French Benzes" lol
In 1986, my grandma brought a brand new silver w/ black gray tweed cloth Jetta GL Wolfsburg Edition. As a kid, I thought it was ok, but I wanted her to purchase the ‘86 Chevy Z24 w/ the digital speedo. I’m glad she purchased the VW. It was a great car. Once I got my license I would washed her car at least twice a week in the summer so that I could drive to the car wash and hang out. Great times!
The Peugeot 505 is still a very handsome sedan 35 years later.
LOL i like how that undercover cop slapped the top of that Jetta before it took off. I had one and wish id kept it smh now im about to buy a 635CSi 😁
I drove a 1984 non turbo 5 sp manual for 26 years. Wish they’d keep making them. Very pleasurable to drive and easy to maintain when you understood them.
My mom had an 86 Jetta Carat and it was the most unreliable piece of shit ever but my parents and I loved it anyway. There was something special about this generation. The way it drove, it was so stiff and solid but tossable and super fun. Whenever I hear that old VW door chime, i'm transported back to this Jetta. My only regret is not buying it off my parents when they sold it.
+ mistertee Parents had a 87 Wolfsburg GLI 4 door.....total piece of shit.....always breaking down. They also had/have a 85 Peugeot 2.5 Turbo Diesel 5 speed..Jetta was a little quicker off the line and easier to toss around......but the TD was damn quick at highway speeds...go up any grade in 5th gear. Peugeot never broke-down....parents still have that oil burning slug along with the 300 TD...............yep.....Benz rides very crude and has always had hit and miss reliability/durability.
+mistertee Never had any issues with any of our VWs...
+Tomahawk Studios you're lucky then. I had a 99 passat... never again will I buy a VW,
A bad VW is a terrifying experience. My dad still curses VWs to anyone who will listen even 20+ years after owning one. When I bought a Golf, he literally said "don't ask me to borrow money to fix it" while we were at the dealership in front of the sales guy. That is true hate.
Beats owning a Chrysler. Those are inarguably THE WORST PIECES OF SHIT EVER!!!!
That 505 reminded me pf my grandparents' ex car!!
I'm an 80's child, and I like (not love) the styling of these two, esp the Jetta.
But 0 to 60 in 11 sec.....a newer Hyundai Accent will do it in around 8.5.
How far we've come.
It’s plenty of Go. These felt more fun by far than an Accent.
My father used to owned a 1988 Volkswagen Jetta Carat with the deluxe manual steel sunroof since I was a little kid. I remember he used to install some audio upgrades poorly!
My mom had an 87'' Peugeot Liberty wagon!It was sharp looking too! It always got mistaken for a Subaru legacy though.She said it was an awesome handling car!Drastic change from her the previous 76' Ford Thunderbird gas guzzling Be land yacht!Was a real pos though! She always said if somebody hit her an totaled it it would do her a favor to get it off her hands!One day somebody rear ended her and she went under a pickup!It was a total loss! Luckily she and my baby brother got out without a scratch!It was back to a Ford for her a 91'Mercury Sable!
3:29 three wheels!!
The patriotism in the introduction is very strong.
Love the Vw!
4:02 Holy crap, that Jetta engine looks like a mess!
Its because back then they did not put the beautiful plastic cover.
My dad had a MkII Jetta GLI. Totally forgot about the manual sunroof : )
Miss my 90 GLI which I bought in 2000 and sold in 2005. Also had an 87 Jetta couple 5 speed that I bought in 94 and sold around 2000.
Whoa the 505 my grandpa used to have has a different dash and tach....but taillights are familiar....
This 1986 Peugeot 505 Turbo sedan is my kind of car. Especially with an automatic. I want one.
I love the 505
Zachary P I miss Peugeot in the USA. Never owned one but loved their sportiness and French-ness...have driven a few in Europe over the years. The newer cars don’t have the same appeal and feel cheaper, perhaps because of their close association with Citroen. The 505 had a charm and a strong presence about it.
Love that 505.
It's interesting to compare these performance variants' performance to a modern (2018+) Corolla. According to Motor Trend, the base 1.8L engine has 138 hp and with a CVT, posts a 10.2 sec 0-60, which is slow now but about the same as these cars. The upgraded 2.0L has 168 hp and a 7.3 sec 0-60 with the 6 speed manual.
The seats in the Peugeot look better than a luxury sofa
Cant remember ever seeing a Peugeot here in Northeast Wisconsin.
They weren't built for Canadian winters, so would be the same for Wisconsin.
I was five, and waaay into cars in 1986. I don't think I ever saw one of these.
I've never seen a Peugeot in my entire life as an American. Never knew they were sold here.
My first car was a ‘91 VW GLI and selling it is my only regret in life 😂. I wouldn’t mind driving that beautiful car forever just with minor modifications and restoration over time.
There is a Yugo getting ready to take the course at 440.
Lack of instrumentation on the Jetta? It looked perfect.
Love the way amricans says Peugeot!
There are automotive sources that state Peugeot and Citroen as well as Renault may make a comeback to the US in 2020 I kinda hope so lol
B Gerbs - Don't know about Peugeot or Citroen but Renault is already in North America in disguise...as Nissan. Some Nissan's are basically cosmetically altered Renault's. The current Nissan X-Trail is a variation of the current Renault Scenic. The Nissan Versa Note is closely related to the Renault Cleo. They tend to have differing engine and transmission choices but that is commonly the case even when the exact same model is sold on both continents.
Given the partnership / cross ownership /management (Nissan is run by a Frenchman who not only revived Renault but saved Nissan from bankruptcy), as well as the fact that Mitsubishi is now controlled by Nissan/Renault, I think that Renault is the least likely of all French brands to return. Renault would possibly cannibalize sales from Nissan and Mitsubishi so they would stay out of this market.
Peugeot or Citroen may be another story, as they don't have such close tie ups with automakers in North America as Renault does. It may involve a purchase or merger. Fiat not only rescued Chrysler in the bailout for example...having booming Chrysler sales to lean on saved Fiat later on. A similar strategy might happen with Peugeot.
I kinda hope not
The Nissan Versa is actually a Renault Clio, so I hope they start selling the Renault Talisman, Megane or even Scenic, these cars can outmatch any korean or japanese. But I would reallt like the Citroen C5.
Long live the euro compacts, the french vs german compact sedan cars, it's so rare cars.
French cars should be more popular in USA. They are superb. Nissan should bring in the Renault brand.
hated that Bosh CIS mechanical fuel injection on my 87 jetta gli
I loved it...I am a mechanic and worked on them
It was reliable.
What the hell is a Poo-show?
DolleHengst you laugh but that's the way I've always pronounced it
Can´t hear if you say in English 5-0-5 (five o five) or as we say here in Spanish 505, five hundred five.
DolleHengst a lot of brown...... Pretty much
Haha, you should hear how we pronounce it in Finland!
DolleHengst it’s a Pouxeaut, Peugeot’s Brand for the North-American markets
The Jetta GLI still looks great 34 years later!
There's a good reason why most of my favorite cars are either German or Japanese....they are pros at making good quality machines at a low price
I bought a red 1986 Jetta in 2006 it was my first car that I bought myself it was $700 and I had to make payments on it! it was awesome!
I got my white Jetta mk2 in 2013, also my first car. I still drive it and I love it.
Old saab 900 please
Interesting pronunciation of the name Peugeot...
I know right. It's Perrrgeot. My French teacher actually taught some of their children before she moved to the U.S.
@May I Be Frank
Shelbyville Manhattan gave us the God given right to marry our cousins!
It's funny, the Honda Civic you posted today is faster than both of them. :)
Compared to the Peuguot, that Civic was not only lighter, but it was also a manual. As for the Jetta, the Honda was simply lighter.
Cameron Alidor Speed is speed. And which do you still see on the road today?
Jake Takahashi I know. I wasn't really disputing his point; just contributing to it.
Cameron Alidor Lol, not trying to come after anyone. I just love how cars look with two decades or so of perspective.
Correction, three decades. I just made myself feel old.
I like that "snob appeal" going to start using that when talking about german cars from now on.
+Torque Effect It is 'snot' appeal (after sniffing lots of noxes) lol.
TorqueEmUp Mex-appeal for Audi’s built in Chiapa factory
Deutsch Bag
I am awaiting the return of Peugeot... 3 more years to go
Both are GREAT cars to use in the 24 hours of Lemons nowadays...
that Peugeot omggggg I want
150bhp from a 2.2 turbo'd, intercooled engine. That's extremely impressive for 1986. It's a shame Peugeot make such drab cars nowadays.
They were making the fastest diesel car of the planet at that time with the CX. Have you tried a 208 or even 308 ? Drab, surely not ! They have a history of nice and sportive cars. With my BMW 323, I raced a 605 in the tunnels of Geneva to Lyon and could not win over him.
@@lucrolland7489 I've driven a 208. Not as fun as a Fiesta.
@@archechme And I have driven the Mondeo and they are surely drab. I will have to try a Fiesta but in the past they were very dull compared to a 205 or even 206. I have tried a Citroen C3 in the past and one recently, surely as nice as a Honda Civic, so it depends which power plant but for road holding the C3 were excellent and dynamic. You should try a 508 which is considered more dynamic then an A4 or a Volvo.
it's awful for the period.
A new Toyota 2.5 makes 203 without a turbo !
11 sec. it’s all is needed for 0 to 60 ... 😆🥱😝 good old days .
No vr6??
my first car 87 jetta gli just like this one 5 speed
4:01 that engine bay looks like a mess of bits thrown together
Brings back memories from the 1980's when my parents drove a 505 DL. Being an "old school" diesel, it blew perfect smoke rings in the morning. Slow and loud. Considering this being the North America, the Peugeot was looked at as a very strange car. But I loved it. Peugeots are notoriously over engineered. You could tell they sweat every engineering detail, but it wasn't remotely reliable and parts were $$$!!!
+ di foo !!
What are you talking about? Parts are extremely cheap/reasonaable on-line.
My 1987 Liberte wagon has nearly 600,000 miles on it..only thing that's been replaced on the engine............was a water pump at 389,000miles. With a GM alternator...its costs $29.00+ at a local parts store. GM alternator rebuild-kits are available for $10.00+ on line.
The problems that have occurred on the Peugeot.......is the German made ZF 4HP slushbox................that built a horrific reputation on BMWs,Jags,Range Rovers,Lincoln(BMW powered) Turbo Diesels,Volvos,etc.
But with a competent transmission repair shop..................they can rid the ZF 4HP of its major flaw. my transmissions clutch-packs were drilled-out to ensure lubrication in Park/Neutral...............more so come smog-check time.
03:25 Yugo GV ready to show the Jetta who is boss!
Honest to god, from the back and side I would have said the Peugeot was a BMW 325e from the same year if you didn't tell me.
The Peugeot was bigger than the 3-series; it was more the size of the 5 series.
Ziegler Automotive & Co. Media Ha! Those wacky Frenchmen have a strange sense of humour. ;)
"Gone are the confusing controls." Really.....
I miss my Jetta GLI 88 😥💔
A 505 with AC, cruise control and heated leather? What wizardry is this?
When did Peugeot stop selling in the US?
soundseeker63 announced in Aug '91, however the '92 models were halfway across the pond.
This is the first car for anybody who made rage comics with *le* in them. They're on the second market now and they deserve better than rage comics 2 (wojack) so i think this is an excellent baguettemobile to pick up bread and cheese from the café in the city.
I do love youngtimers, but MY GOD times have changed! And the requirements and needs with it...
$19500 in 1986 for the Peugeot 505 is equivalent to $50,000 in 2022. Those were damn expensive then for what you got.
Did he say "steamiest" finish or "sluggish"? 11 seconds...
Where does that intercooler get air from?
Air duct fitted to underside of bonnet, atleast that way it was done later Peugeot and Citroen diesels.
They talk about oversteer like it's a bad thing!
I used to like the Peugeot 504, it had no competition, but I prefer the Jetta, Volkswagen and Audi know how to make high performance econo boxes.
The 505 is a bigger car than the Jetta wich could be compaired to smaller peujoet 305(not sure if sold in the U.S
GLI 11 seconds to 60!! The 80s were so slow.
it was a 4 door
Time moved more quickly, so it seemed faster.
Maestro_T Yeah, we just had lower expectations. After 180 HP Corvettes. THIS is the golden age of muscle cars. Right now. A base Accord four cylinder family car is 185 hp.
Clearanceman2 There is no doubt that cars are very powerful right now. Too powerful for most purposes, in my opinion. I actually wish there were smaller engine choices for better fuel economy. Will it stay that way? It's been that way for quite a while now. One striking thing in these retro videos is that Motorweek was actually getting very high fuel economy numbers in some cases (i.e., not just the EPA numbers which no one believes), and generally equal to or better than what they get now. Obviously the power discrepancy is huge, so one can only wonder how much better the fuel economy would be with lesser engines. (The market's love of SUV's doesn't help.) I don't personally want a return to 14+ second 0-60 runs, but I also don't need a car that does it in 7 or less on a daily basis....Probably not the most popular opinion on a car fanatic page. lol
Maestro_T Yeah, LOL I'm all for more power. Today's cars do it through turbos and 8 speed transmissions. Or CVTs. They are pretty heavy though with 20 air bags and all the side impact stuff plus electronic everything. So they need that power. The reason older cars go OK mileage was they didn't weigh anything. Trucks used to get horrendous mileage. Now it's just OK but it used to be truly awful. Son's 2002 4.3 liter S10 compact truck is rated 14 city 17 highway. My 2000 legacy is rated 21/28. Legacy is only 400 pounds lighter.
in rain jetta kills you ! see it cornering on 3 wheels
Here's a Motorweek Retro Review of the Peugeot 505 Turbo and the Volkswagen Jetta GLI from 1986.
I want that puurgot
Wow the tested Jetta was the same price as the base Peugeot and adjusted for inflation that is $26K in 2016 dollars. Not really a bargain!
Indeed, the 505 is a real superb sedan with nice ride and the Jetta is a simple reliable car but not an upper hand one.
I always laugh when I hear someone say 'German Engineering'.
I think to myself - 'Have you ever driven a Volkswagon?'
The Jetta is called a Sports sedan in the US? Lol. Old people car in the Netherlands
Why are they always revving the car right after start geez ?