Youtuber Sued for $7.6 Million by Bungie

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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  • @Lockjajorge
    @Lockjajorge 2 роки тому +11069

    Bungie struggling to contact UA-cam depicts the ultimate underlining problem of this whole situation, UA-cam

  • @wesleyward5901
    @wesleyward5901 2 роки тому +6067

    Official Bungie UA-cam account: *Gets copyright struck by "Bungie"*
    UA-cam: "Seems legit to me."

    • @zigsteenine8650
      @zigsteenine8650 2 роки тому +363

      Thats what being run by bots does to a company

    • @threemadin0hio
      @threemadin0hio 2 роки тому +60

      There are many things wrong with UA-cam. But I’m over with this.

    • @IMOJEGA
      @IMOJEGA 2 роки тому +34

      sEeMs LEgIT tO mE

    • @baron.whimsy
      @baron.whimsy 2 роки тому +135

      UA-cam official response: "Stop hitting yourself."

    • @198sambrrs
      @198sambrrs 2 роки тому +26

      yeah there are way too many instances of this happening for all kinds of content. maybe a fat ass lawsuit will be incentive for them to fix the issue, but I doubt it

  • @tripatomz3441
    @tripatomz3441 Рік тому +172

    Bungie bitching about youtube customer service while having literally ZERO customer service contact themself is fucking hilarious.

  • @kenzarezyarifin1076
    @kenzarezyarifin1076 2 роки тому +377

    The only positive thing from this situation is how even a billion dollar company got ignored by UA-cam when complaining about copyright stuff

    • @ivannasha5556
      @ivannasha5556 3 місяці тому +7

      I still feel youtube was a bigger villain than the mad teen. It's like the government killed all men because one deranged woman said men bad.

    • @lajeandom
      @lajeandom 3 місяці тому +2

      I don't understand how easy it is to copyright strike and take down videos...??? It's like anybody can do that without even having the right to do it and you lose momentum and a lot of views, and ultimately, a lot of money if someone just decides to that he or she wants to take down your content. Makes absolutely no sense.

    • @Cyxap1844
      @Cyxap1844 3 місяці тому +4

      @@ivannasha5556Bungie literally deleting payed content

    • @kirkweatherwax-si1zh
      @kirkweatherwax-si1zh 3 місяці тому

      @@lajeandom anyone can do it. does not mean they have a right to do it or will have proof that its legit. they have to take every claim as fact till they prove its not or they can get repercussion from those legit claims that get through. youtube is so understaffed and soaking up all the money they dont have people to make sure each claim is legit.

    • @subtledemisefox
      @subtledemisefox 2 місяці тому

      Based youtube for once

  • @NutsItch
    @NutsItch 2 роки тому +9462

    in a weird way, i think it’s comforting knowing that a billion-dollar company goes through the same customer service process as any other youtuber. we may not all be treated equally well, but it’s still cool to know we’re all treated equally like shit. 💀

    • @redandinata4568
      @redandinata4568 2 роки тому +580

      Its both comforting and terrifying to be honest

    • @lanthanumlanthanium6373
      @lanthanumlanthanium6373 2 роки тому +37

      @@particely Jews being held accountable? When the hell in history was that ever accomplished?

    • @trenta3582
      @trenta3582 2 роки тому +262

      @@lanthanumlanthanium6373 what

    • @stjeep
      @stjeep 2 роки тому +145

      @@lanthanumlanthanium6373 oh come on dude 🤦‍♂️

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio 2 роки тому +9

      Lmao hall of fame hall of shame

  • @oftheHowl
    @oftheHowl 2 роки тому +5001

    He broke UA-cam's rules, got warned, kept breaking rules, got banned, and decided to take it out on...a different company and innocent content creators? What a terrible villain arc

    • @therealdrhankmccoy5047
      @therealdrhankmccoy5047 2 роки тому +296

      No. That's a good villain. He affected a lot of lives. A bad villain wouldn't be able to go that far

    • @renegadepyro726
      @renegadepyro726 2 роки тому +218

      And now he screwed his ENTIRE life up just because he was sad. Well deserved.

    • @therealdrhankmccoy5047
      @therealdrhankmccoy5047 2 роки тому +191

      @@renegadepyro726 homie didn't even use VPN. He wanted his name to be known and remember. He got balls I'll give him that.

    • @ReservedSpot
      @ReservedSpot 2 роки тому +61

      @@therealdrhankmccoy5047 Villains aren’t cool, idolizing people who gave up ain’t the wave.

    • @therealdrhankmccoy5047
      @therealdrhankmccoy5047 2 роки тому +49

      @@ReservedSpot never said he was cool. Just saying he was good at what he did or else he wouldn't have affected that many lives. And he probably didn't use VPN because he wanted to be known. You just can't read is all.

  • @j_c_wizard4918
    @j_c_wizard4918 2 роки тому +40

    Cusses like a sailor and then randomly decides to go “it’s so unbelievably goofy” and I live for it

  • @JokingThief
    @JokingThief 2 роки тому +64

    I don't think it can be overstated just how much something like this needed to happen. Google has basically achieved Umbrella Co. levels of sketchy, and only another company had the ability (read: money) to take them to court on even ground.
    Kinda strange that dude decided to play Get Smart, but I'm not gonna be the one to look a gift horse in the mouth.

  • @DawnOfTheOzz
    @DawnOfTheOzz 2 роки тому +6227

    This is one of those rare times that siding with Bungie, a multi billion dollar company, in the process of suing someone is actually seen as a good thing.

    • @DmpstrPirate
      @DmpstrPirate 2 роки тому +70

      What an interesting time to live in

    • @jornavyr2459
      @jornavyr2459 2 роки тому +221

      I always find it tough to side with mega corporations, so for this one I think I'll just be an impartial observer. Can't really defend the actions of the wanker who filed 96 fraudulent DMCA notices, but I find it just as hard to cheer for some faceless business to ruin his life.

    • @AnimatedTerror
      @AnimatedTerror 2 роки тому +261

      @@jornavyr2459 yeah well at least being an impartial observer is better than the usual “hate both sides for being faceless mega corps” thing.
      Y’all remember when epic sued apple when epic was the one who broke the contract and all these brainlits were like “oh epic. Go epic” when both were hyper evil megacorps?
      That was funny.

    • @JeffGoldblum64
      @JeffGoldblum64 2 роки тому +37

      Uh I mean it was UA-cam's system though. Maybe sue UA-cam instead of suing some individual which will change nothing.

    • @risachi6018
      @risachi6018 2 роки тому +69

      @@JeffGoldblum64 ​ They're just being petty as him. Suing a broke petty guy with 2k subs will not help anyone. Suing UA-cam is.

  • @Koofy
    @Koofy 2 роки тому +7416

    As if it wasn't bad enough that he would've gotten shunned by the community and his friends, he also now has to pay 8 MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS...
    Imagine explaining that to his wife/girlfriend/parents 😭

    • @ri3739
      @ri3739 2 роки тому +859

      bold to assume he has a girlfriend or friends

    • @rakijr9176
      @rakijr9176 2 роки тому +473

      He'll probably just file for bankruptcy or settle for a lower amount.

    • @lol4468
      @lol4468 2 роки тому

      Numb digger

    • @drew4678
      @drew4678 2 роки тому +215

      There is no way he can afford 7.6 million. What happens in that scenario? Does he just pay everything he’s got for the rest of his life?

    • @theguardianwolf7206
      @theguardianwolf7206 2 роки тому +309

      He has to file bankruptcy as well as probably broker anything he owns as collateral for payment

  • @hellboy19991
    @hellboy19991 2 роки тому +9

    There is another similar thing happening for years now: There is this weird Australian band that put the entire Super Metroid main menu music as the background for one of their songs and put that on the content ID system. So every person that is playing the game and shows more than a few seconds of main menu music risks getting their ad revenue chopped...
    Oh and not so fun fact about that: The big video that brought light to the issue got taken down via copyright strike from the company that represents the band.....

  • @Sebgeetarman
    @Sebgeetarman Рік тому +12

    rewatching this video and hearing the celtics quip with how the heat v celtics games went goes crazy

  • @constructapex2021
    @constructapex2021 2 роки тому +5886

    The fact that a million dollar gamer household name like Bungie had to go through customer service like the rest of us is hysterical and maybe what weve needed all along, YT so powerful that not one single company can go at them alone, let alone go at google. I feel like this is still the beginning....or the end of a phase

    • @Beatyofeet32
      @Beatyofeet32 2 роки тому +86

      Shouldn't that be the case, though? Everyone always seems to be complaining about preferential treatment for those that have money and power and then somehow those same people call it a failure when an entity with money and power is treated the same as everyone else.

    • @cornhole8839
      @cornhole8839 2 роки тому +36

      @@Beatyofeet32 too blind to see their hypocrisy. youtube monetization as a whole is unfair, its just funny they pay so little mind to anyone. nobody can really make them care, so its weird to assume they would. less work = more money.

    • @BradLee208
      @BradLee208 2 роки тому

      @@Beatyofeet32 no the case should be that UA-cam improves their customer service and fix their broken system, but Google controls the flow of information on behalf of the existing liberal regime so don’t expect any sort of action to be taken against them

    • @constructapex2021
      @constructapex2021 2 роки тому +43

      @@Beatyofeet32 maybe you misunderstood me lol thats wat im saying...its hysterical that they were treated how we as the common folk are treated

    • @Beatyofeet32
      @Beatyofeet32 2 роки тому +3

      @@constructapex2021 Yeah, I wasn't sure of your stance specifically so I was just making a general comment

  • @cumbrap
    @cumbrap 2 роки тому +15131

    Wouldn't it be crazy if Bungee suing UA-cam was all part of his plan. He really would be Kira.

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 2 роки тому +193

      Hey why did you delete your Discord server that one time? I really enjoyed it.
      Also Kaya literally says he thinks Furries cause dog rape which is kinda disgusting. My sister is a Furry and she is underaged!

    • @WatchFelineSpine
      @WatchFelineSpine 2 роки тому +17

      Ayaya

    • @peculiar3529
      @peculiar3529 2 роки тому +28

      @@BaitPolice thanks for your service you’re a hero

    • @forgivezharion1261
      @forgivezharion1261 2 роки тому +6

      Ratio + yb better + I didn’t ask + this you🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻👶🏽

    • @drywall7724
      @drywall7724 2 роки тому +10

      Bungee himself 💀

  • @Widestone001
    @Widestone001 2 роки тому +38

    Well, a recent lawsuit taught me that what you sue for isn't necessarily what you get. But even if this is reduced to 1 or 2 million, that bully's life is over, and deservedly so. I hope that this suit will go through and Bungie wins, so that in the future stuff like this won't happen anymore. It'd make UA-cam a more friendly place to be, because I'd be hugely surprised if this was the only anger-revenge-butthurt takedown troll.

    • @Ninja-kl8do
      @Ninja-kl8do 2 роки тому +1

      1 or 7 million, hes declaring bankruptcy

    • @Sean-MacGuire
      @Sean-MacGuire Рік тому

      He's going to Bankrupt lmao they won't see a single penny

    • @jesusofbullets
      @jesusofbullets Рік тому +1

      @@Sean-MacGuire You forget that Nintendo sued a guy for about as much for a lesser crime and he's going to pay them for the rest of his natural life.

    • @Sean-MacGuire
      @Sean-MacGuire Рік тому +1

      @@jesusofbullets and he bankrupt and now owes nothing lmao

    • @MindsEntropy
      @MindsEntropy 4 місяці тому

      a minor inconvenience a temporary hiccup, bungie themselves have caused more fear for these content creators careers than some guy filing copyright strikes when youtube falsely does them all the time.. bungie took this guys life away becuase they’re a broke company trying to get money wherever they can.. yes what he did was bad but 7 million fucking dollars are you serious?!!! what assets and resources did they spend to remedy this problem? NONE! they wrote a fucking email to youtube that’s it.

  • @cobaltprime9467
    @cobaltprime9467 2 роки тому +3

    I hate when customer support sends me to the FAQ. It never answers my questions.

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 2 роки тому +9389

    “Bungie went through customer service and didn’t get the issue solved for days” not only does this story show how broken their copyright system is but it shows how incompetent their support system is at the same time. And it’s been this way for a long time already. As for Nick, he simply played with fire and got burned. He also stabbed a lot of people in the back as well, so he’s pretty much getting back the karma he deserves.

    • @Princeomishore
      @Princeomishore 2 роки тому +228

      yeah UA-cam really needs to get their shit together and change the support system and copyright system. And the sad thing is they might only change it now since it involves a company.

    • @maurdospice294
      @maurdospice294 2 роки тому +239

      @@Instabruh.User.. Quit Breathing

    • @definecapps
      @definecapps 2 роки тому

      the title got updated

    • @derraucherhase123
      @derraucherhase123 2 роки тому +5

      7.6 billion karma... Life ruined... Not what he deserves....

    • @claytonreid996
      @claytonreid996 2 роки тому

      bro he didn't "play with fire" lol he straight committed self-immolation and did a scumbag piece of shit thing after getting mad about his channel being disabled, even tho he was literally doing something against copyright law in the first place (music stuff), and then hurt a bunch of creators who had nothing to do with the situation? definitely getting what he deserved lol

  • @ThePhoenix329
    @ThePhoenix329 2 роки тому +2584

    I actually lost my channel because of this guy. Thankfully, I got it back. But, I'm still floored that this was able to happen in the first place.

    • @annanimity2034
      @annanimity2034 2 роки тому +82

      I'm so glad you were able to get your channel back. 🍻

    • @user-zm7zl9lc6j
      @user-zm7zl9lc6j 2 роки тому +53

      Glad you got it back you're at 70k

    • @playstationarusu
      @playstationarusu 2 роки тому +28

      Thats good to hear! But yeah thats crazy this whole thing even somehow happened

    • @DefinetelyNOTtheFeds
      @DefinetelyNOTtheFeds 2 роки тому +14

      you still play destiny????

    • @user-vo1gd5sk8n
      @user-vo1gd5sk8n 2 роки тому +24

      @@DefinetelyNOTtheFeds the games in the best spot it’s ever been

  • @cliffysilver6612
    @cliffysilver6612 Місяць тому +1

    My favourite bit from the legal document from Bungie is "anyone foolish enough to falsely represent us" and calling UA-cams systems a abysmal labyrinth

  • @microwave4599
    @microwave4599 2 роки тому +89

    out of all the million dollar gaming companies in this world, it feels empowering to know that Bungie is the one that relates to the common goober the most.

  • @ThePhysicalReaction
    @ThePhysicalReaction 2 роки тому +2897

    They ought to sue UA-cam themselves. All they'd need to do is show that UA-cam is purposefully nebulous and ineffective with their systems in pursuit of greater profits, which in turn caused bungie damages - which a reasonable person could foresee happening in this way given UA-cams operational practices.

    • @dustinturner5546
      @dustinturner5546 2 роки тому +95

      suing google is not the way to go when it comes to this situation, however it would be so nice if youtube had a reformation, it really is getting old with the bs but they can keep it going with the broken system because no other platform can (or is willing to) do what youtube does

    • @Ayuima69
      @Ayuima69 2 роки тому +7

      A billion dollar company suing a billion company doesn't make any sense, they should just focus on improving the systems.

    • @soup7694
      @soup7694 2 роки тому +178

      @@Ayuima69 which will happen by its own when? you need to apply some pressure to this behemoth of a platform and it's owners/rules to finally not ignore the problems and as you said, atleast improving their systems

    • @833tr00t
      @833tr00t 2 роки тому +1

      Literally this

    • @Wolta
      @Wolta 2 роки тому +12

      @@Ayuima69 I just want UA-cam to be a little bit more open on what problems they are solving, or what their process is. At least the rest of us would be a little bit more reassured that something is actually happening. Instead of silence then update.

  • @GhostMan407
    @GhostMan407 2 роки тому +1881

    As awful as this is, it really just shows how terrible UA-cams copyright system is, that it can ruin hundreds of lives and even an entire company over one angry guy. Reminds me of quantum tv, and yet UA-cam still sits there with their hand up their ass doing nothing. Pathetic

    • @redfs7414
      @redfs7414 2 роки тому

      I hope the fbi investigates you for copy/pasting this all over the comment section you neanderthal

    • @ImFud
      @ImFud 2 роки тому +46

      @@brandoncook6190 what

    • @DocSleepy
      @DocSleepy 2 роки тому +90

      @@brandoncook6190 silence, spambot

    • @TwinShards
      @TwinShards 2 роки тому +9

      "reminds me of quantum tv" Dw TheActMan will TheYTLawsuit them. ;)

    • @SieMiezekatze
      @SieMiezekatze 2 роки тому

      Best is they never do anything to solve real problems , guys making death threats, recording themselves with guns and actually harrasing people, they will hit you with the ' this doesn't infringe UA-cam policies " you can upload a dead person and UA-cam will put it on trendin_ is pathetic

  • @DrWetness
    @DrWetness 2 роки тому +9

    You know you’re company has dog shit customer service when the only to get issues resolved is to take them to court

  • @atsylor5549
    @atsylor5549 Рік тому +1

    You can’t claim you’re making a point while simultaneously pretending to be the victim. That’s like a fireman starting a building fire then putting it out pretending to be a hero and when he’s caught he says I just wanted to show how dangerous hot stuff can be. It’s ridiculous

  • @mikezenzola2514
    @mikezenzola2514 2 роки тому +1208

    My favorite part is that the emails he used to create the fake accounts were also found on one of the cheat sites Bungie sued for making cheats. So this guy was one of the cheaters playing Destiny as well.

    • @firstlegend5105
      @firstlegend5105 2 роки тому +70

      So he deliberately had a negative view on Bungie in the first place 💀

    • @giwdul5511
      @giwdul5511 2 роки тому +26

      @Kavetion do something then

    • @ItzAWrapYo
      @ItzAWrapYo 2 роки тому +37

      @@giwdul5511 he cant, its just a lonely lil bot.

    • @Elemental_Clash
      @Elemental_Clash 2 роки тому

      @@giwdul5511 It's a bot. Just ignore it lol

    • @AMediumSizedKodiak
      @AMediumSizedKodiak 2 роки тому

      @@giwdul5511 honestly that bot is nothing and I'd take that all day long compared to the terrible shit the other ones spew all over every fucking video

  • @us_is_we9263
    @us_is_we9263 2 роки тому +3240

    I’m so glad bungie actually faces problems, first they attack and take down cheats and people who make cheats, and now this. I respect bungie actually putting their foot down when other companies wouldn’t do shit

    • @forgivezharion1261
      @forgivezharion1261 2 роки тому +10

      Ratio + yb better + I don’t care + this you 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👶🏽👨🏼‍💻

    • @Dgero
      @Dgero 2 роки тому +78

      @@calxp91 BAHA-

    • @Cuunke
      @Cuunke 2 роки тому +39

      @@forgivezharion1261 🗿

    • @DANCERcow
      @DANCERcow 2 роки тому +1

      Nintendo

    • @Four_Shadowing
      @Four_Shadowing 2 роки тому +16

      I *AM* THE ANTICHEAT

  • @RegitNevard
    @RegitNevard 2 місяці тому +2

    No matter what you do, if you abuse copyright strikes, you absolutely deserve a $7.6 million dollar lawsuit.

  • @ericgulseth74
    @ericgulseth74 2 роки тому +6

    5:00 Oh my god yes! I had an issue with my Pixel phone and it was pretty obvious there wasn't a human on the other end of the connection, just Google's AI pumping out search results.

  • @elevatormaniacgames
    @elevatormaniacgames 2 роки тому +4107

    Cant believe bungie sued a UA-camr 6 million times for $7

  • @shatterfall_hunted8236
    @shatterfall_hunted8236 2 роки тому +2623

    I would like to remind people that Bungie allows all its creators to do a lot of things.They literally have a rule where 80% of your video could be just their content and then you can just speak random bullshit for the rest 20 % and they will allow it.Thats how much they love their community and by far they have the most flexible creator friendly rules.ALSO the soundtrack that Nazo got banned for is allowed to be played in the backround of videos and for everything,you just cant upload it as a song.This guy could have just added backround gameplay of him dying in pvp and he would be completly fine

    • @m05513
      @m05513 2 роки тому +182

      Hell one of the people they mention was wrongly struck, Promethean, would take recordings in game of the ost so you got the 15-30 minute experience of it instead of the compressed 4 minute samples in the official OST. And this was allowed. Look at his version of First Disciple vs the one on the official Destiny UA-cam channel, for example

    • @iasomnium919
      @iasomnium919 2 роки тому +97

      @@m05513 It was also either him or another channel that would take the painstaking time of finding the music in the channel files, which had multiple instrumental files depending on the situation (reaching a certain part of the map, in battle, out of battle, etc), and *pieced them together* so you could listen to the entire song as it was meant to be heard. All for archival purposes, and they loved the game and its music that much.

    • @sawyermurdock6521
      @sawyermurdock6521 2 роки тому +84

      they also let third parties access their API and let it alter peoples loadout and stuff. they are very kind to their community

    • @arniepage1662
      @arniepage1662 2 роки тому

      I wouldn’t go sucking their cock just yet they aren’t bad or good they are neutral

    • @m05513
      @m05513 2 роки тому +31

      @@iasomnium919 yeah the destiny OST community is insane like that. And to think this pathetic excuse of a human tried to pass himself off as one of them. He probably would have gotten to keep his uploads with almost no effort too, considering how much is cut from the official OST, but he couldn't even do the bare minimum. 7.6 million is too kind for him.

  • @jcece5270
    @jcece5270 2 роки тому +15

    Would be great if anyone who has ever been unfairly copy right struck could join in on this lawsuit and make it a big class action against UA-cam. They might not win, but it might incentivize UA-cam to update and improve the copyright system and strike process

  • @XDXD-mg3kq
    @XDXD-mg3kq 2 місяці тому +2

    “i’ll strike a video, AND EAT A CHIP”

  • @TheVnator
    @TheVnator 2 роки тому +1881

    I came into this without any knowledge of what the situation was and was ready to be pissed at Bungie. After hearing the story, I did a complete 180 and am glad that someone's putting a fraudster like that in their place, especially if they're going to be threatening peoples' livelihoods!

    • @ANG3LOFDAD3AD
      @ANG3LOFDAD3AD 2 роки тому +40

      Tbh, same. Love Bungie.

    • @SilverVolo
      @SilverVolo 2 роки тому +91

      @@Ellie-gp9dg he was getting peoples video taken down

    • @tcsprynce5748
      @tcsprynce5748 2 роки тому +94

      @@Ellie-gp9dg if you make videos for a living and someone is making false claims against your channel then that directly threatens your livelihood

    • @mewclelegend9945
      @mewclelegend9945 2 роки тому +56

      @@Ellie-gp9dg imagine you work for a company just to write one article a week for a living. You do this without issue, and one week, you get accused for plagiarism with no proof, and your company refuses to pay you after the allegations, so you have no money for that week. You also have no way of proving your Innocence cause nobody in the company listens to insignificant people like that. You think missing a week's pay and doing all that work or nothing doesn't affect your livilihood? Now he did this to 50+ of your coworkers. See the issue?

    • @jessicamissouri6656
      @jessicamissouri6656 2 роки тому +33

      @@Ellie-gp9dg did you not watch the video

  • @yosh3058
    @yosh3058 2 роки тому +2871

    Been following this since the original takedown wave. One fun fact you missed, once the UA-camr's name came out, some people in the community started cross-referencing his account with lists of people involved in a large cheating lawsuit. Turns out, he was likely a cheater in Destiny 2. Overall an absolute POS.

    • @zeusonwii3166
      @zeusonwii3166 2 роки тому +173

      @@brandoncook6190 ?

    • @StickmanMook
      @StickmanMook 2 роки тому +1

      "likely"

    • @brandoncook6190
      @brandoncook6190 2 роки тому +14

      @Phillip Ramos Good idea

    • @johnmehlman5195
      @johnmehlman5195 2 роки тому

      @@brandoncook6190 absolutely, yes, it is wrong, no matter how much of a piece of shit the kid is, do they deserve punishment? Yes absolutely, but abduction is too far

    • @kingzingo1784
      @kingzingo1784 2 роки тому +1

      @@StickmanMook Yes, likely. As in, probably.

  • @tanork47
    @tanork47 2 роки тому +2

    Good to see a company get humbled by how horrid the support UA-cam has.

  • @jaimytourigny3027
    @jaimytourigny3027 2 роки тому +6

    Not even two minutes in, I understood what' s this story was about, and that I already knew everything about it....
    Yet. I stayed for the rest of the video, because your spin of it was refreshing, mysterious, and well made, it definitely felt like a take of the situation I never saw before, wd and keep on!

  • @spicylemon7475
    @spicylemon7475 2 роки тому +1417

    The fact that UA-cam couldn’t help a massive company, aka the main demographic that UA-cam serves, just goes to show they are not only money driven, but genuinely incompetent.

    • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
      @wisemankugelmemicus1701 2 роки тому +51

      If a company says that they’re “doing it for the advertisers” they’re incompetent, if they’re saying they’re “doing it for the community”, they’re money driven.

    • @noah4822
      @noah4822 2 роки тому +6

      Im pretty sure youtube doesn't actually net that much profit if any at all. i think the advertising money goes to server upkeep and creators and little to none go to google. They are using it to work on their neural nets and various AI.

    • @lucoa460
      @lucoa460 2 роки тому +1

      copied

    • @YuYuYuna_
      @YuYuYuna_ 2 роки тому +5

      I mean it's because there's no legal obligation for UA-cam to do anything about false copyright strikes. All the DMCA/copyright laws require is for hosting sites to respond to the requests within a given time frame and remove the content. People seriously underestimate just how open ended the copyright laws are. Content hosting sites aren't required to ensure the validity of take down requests. They're only required to act upon the requests so long as the requester provides the most basic of information like this guy did and all UA-cam is required to do is say "Yep, the information they gave matches the information of who represents this company's IP rights." and approve the take down.

    • @ThatGreenLED
      @ThatGreenLED Рік тому +1

      @@lucoa460 overused reply

  • @atrane365
    @atrane365 2 роки тому +999

    My big Q here: why does it take so much for youtubers to get verified, but any random schmuck instantly impersonate a company and fraudyright claim anything on youtube? I feel there should be a verification process for copyright claims

    • @dopesickdog
      @dopesickdog 2 роки тому +139

      i feel like they should do ID verification or something, seeing as it's a legal process, especially since disputing a strike already doxes the owner of the affected video

    • @TAMWUT
      @TAMWUT 2 роки тому +6

      @@dopesickdog this

    • @MrFlarespeed
      @MrFlarespeed 2 роки тому +36

      @@dopesickdog and more importantly, the side that should have their info shown to the other should be the striker, not the strikee, until the strikee says "I'm not taking down the video, take me to court"

    • @TheVivi13
      @TheVivi13 2 роки тому +23

      Yep supposedly all he did was give a fake name and the address of the CSC offices and they were like yup seems good

    • @ray_bromano
      @ray_bromano 2 роки тому +5

      Because lets say you make an album by yourself and dont have a youtube presence or account of any kind, and then you find out someone else is using your content without permission here. How do you prove that you are the real copyright holder in any satisfactory way and get the offenders removed without being stonewalled by the identification process? Its easy to prove you are who you say you are maybe, but harder to prove digitally that you have the authority for the copyright claim. So it has the potential to be just as frustrating on the opposite end for someone being taken advantage of.
      So the solution is much more complex and theyve opted to make it easier for the strikers than the strikees

  • @Sadarsa
    @Sadarsa Рік тому +1

    "Nothing good happened here, to anybody"
    You'd think that maybe..just maybe... UA-cam would finally open their eyes to how toxic they are in regards to their policies.

  • @haydenator4751
    @haydenator4751 Рік тому +2

    At this point Twitter should just charge UA-cam for having their support in their website

  • @caramel777
    @caramel777 2 роки тому +1583

    I swear there is some things I wouldn’t know had ever happened if it wasn’t for Charlie making a video about it.

    • @forgivezharion1261
      @forgivezharion1261 2 роки тому +2

      Ratio + yb better + nobody asked + this you 🤓🤓👶🏽👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻

    • @48Mei
      @48Mei 2 роки тому +65

      Damn these bots are even liking their own comments smh

    • @caramel777
      @caramel777 2 роки тому +1

      @@48Mei wdym

    • @user-nr5xp6yd8z
      @user-nr5xp6yd8z 2 роки тому +23

      @@caramel777 "ForgiveZharion" is a bot

    • @caramel777
      @caramel777 2 роки тому

      @@user-nr5xp6yd8z oh yeah i noticed i was just making sure he wasn’t referencing me lol

  • @sourceeee
    @sourceeee 2 роки тому +267

    this is the same energy as the TV reporters who interview strangers about a killing, when it turned out the person they're interviewing is actually the killer all along lol

    • @soozarooz7813
      @soozarooz7813 2 роки тому +6

      Like Chris Watts

    • @mountaindrew2241
      @mountaindrew2241 2 роки тому +12

      If you’re interested in watching a good video on the person this is referring to, look up “The Bizarre Case of Stephen McDaniel” by JCS, I watched it before and it’s a great video (yt deleted my comment with a link to the video)

    • @punk7246
      @punk7246 2 роки тому

      ​@@mountaindrew2241 i think they're talking about the guy with the shitty haircut

  • @VGMvega
    @VGMvega Рік тому +4

    11:40 I am one of these other music uploaders affected by this mess. I tought Bungie had started a massive crackdown on OST channels, so i removed all of my Destiny 1 AND Destiny 2 music videos... for nothing. They had millions of views.

  • @quake3video
    @quake3video Місяць тому +1

    UA-cam should be made to take some legal responsibility for having a copyright enforcement platform that is so easily abused by a random kid to the point that said kid is able to cause millions in damages to a big company and real damages to the earnings and channels of countless small streamers on the UA-cam platform.

  • @JPwendi
    @JPwendi 2 роки тому +738

    I really hope bungie also sues UA-cam over this, their copyright system is complete bolocks, they need to get flamed over this.

    • @P.J.C_7
      @P.J.C_7 2 роки тому +20

      Please yes.. Chaos would be awesome

    • @ignitedchao
      @ignitedchao 2 роки тому +30

      Yah, UA-cam definitely helped cause this problem to fester

    • @apathyreaper5323
      @apathyreaper5323 2 роки тому +34

      Ever heard of the Quntum TV Incident?

    • @SpeedWeed6969
      @SpeedWeed6969 2 роки тому +17

      God if they did that Bungie would be the saviour of UA-cam

    • @alexknight81
      @alexknight81 2 роки тому +23

      @@apathyreaper5323 Bungie has more money than the people that quantum went against

  • @lukemimnagh2594
    @lukemimnagh2594 2 роки тому +695

    This man is so good at insults it’s practically his mother language.

    • @sapnupua5
      @sapnupua5 2 роки тому +6

      actually he gets it from his father /j

    • @assassinofvenice8430
      @assassinofvenice8430 2 роки тому +7

      @@sapnupua5 father Language then

    • @michealpants
      @michealpants 2 роки тому

      @@sapnupua5 you are so horrifically unfunny

    • @goliathbroodia942
      @goliathbroodia942 2 роки тому

      I'd never feel or and felt offended by this person...... Yet. Lol. Good luck.

    • @sapnupua5
      @sapnupua5 2 роки тому +4

      @@goliathbroodia942 okay goliath (lol)

  • @subval
    @subval 2 роки тому

    I’m honestly terrified of UA-cam’s copyright system because it sucks so badly and it affects so many people.

  • @walshmeister88803
    @walshmeister88803 Рік тому +3

    He played the game of 'fluck around and find out' against Bungie and lost. He went in saying "never tell me the odds!" and got destroyed before he reached the finish line. This is by far the most hilarious thing I have seen in a long while and I couldn't be happier.

  • @JoexSay
    @JoexSay 2 роки тому +213

    Companies should be fined, per day, for not providing real human customer service. I'm tired of having to go to social media backlash to get some damn customer service.

    • @Definitely_Melnyx
      @Definitely_Melnyx 2 роки тому +1

      Huh? Nobody forces you to use the service in the first place

    • @JadeAnnabelArt
      @JadeAnnabelArt 2 роки тому +34

      I feel there's a balance between bot and human interaction, and youtube just went full bot. Getting a bot response can work for a time but it can only do so much.
      Asking to speak to a real person, or being able to escalate to a real person, should always be an option, bots still can't tell images apart, let alone deal with many of the fake copyright notices.
      I remember them introducing 'youtube heroes' where you could moderate channels, and my first thought was 'they're so bad at taking care of their own company, they're asking their userbase to do their job for them.

    • @brunoslybruno
      @brunoslybruno 2 роки тому +26

      @@Definitely_Melnyx ah yeah, if something goes wrong the answer is just to not use it, right

    • @BudMasta
      @BudMasta 2 роки тому +2

      @@JadeAnnabelArt UA-cam doesn't make money, and has a billion minutes of content uploaded daily, how do you plan on paying people to cover that much content?
      It's not possible and easy to see that if you had any sort of "critical" thinking skills.

    • @landonadams9935
      @landonadams9935 2 роки тому +9

      @@BudMasta excuse me, did you just say “UA-cam doesn’t make money”? Are you serious? What do you think ads are for? UA-cam makes tons of money (Also they are owned by Google, so they could always get money from there). They can definitely hire a large team of human moderators. And they don’t have to moderate every single minute of every single video, just videos that receive content reports and copyright strikes. Funny how you’re saying that the other person has no critical thinking skills.

  • @FaolanKitekaze
    @FaolanKitekaze 2 роки тому +762

    as someone who plays destiny regularly, it's crazy to see how much this story has blown up outside the destiny community

    • @jackb3822
      @jackb3822 2 роки тому +33

      Yeah I read the title then got thrown for a mini loops when I saw the thumbnail of charlie

    • @katzabar
      @katzabar 2 роки тому +17

      I mean to be fair, Destiny isn’t exactly a niche community. It’s pretty mainstream and it involves UA-cam and Bungie so I’d expect it to blow up.

    • @FaolanKitekaze
      @FaolanKitekaze 2 роки тому +8

      @@katzabar it feels pretty niche in comparison to how mainstream it initially was or to other more well known game franchises, but i guess 1 mil+ sales on a single expansion can't really be considered niche at that point

    • @rithvikmuthyalapati9754
      @rithvikmuthyalapati9754 2 роки тому +6

      Fr. All I saw was Datto, Aztecross, and many other Destiny UA-camrs talking about this. But I was surprised to see moist cover it too(I suppose it's because he is also a Destiny player). But yeah, this case has had a profound effect on not just the Destiny community, but the youtuber community too.

    • @whitehuayra
      @whitehuayra 2 роки тому +3

      it's not about destiny. BUNGIE has been a big name before destiny. Most people know bungie from Halo more than destiny. It's not really that surprising that one of the largest popular developers is being covered by popular youtubers lol

  • @robbylebotha
    @robbylebotha 2 роки тому

    Cybercrime at minimum carries 1 year in jail AND you still have to pay the fine.

  • @Koufaxx812
    @Koufaxx812 Рік тому +1

    If you take down legally fair use, that's perjury, so that 9 something counts of perjury

  • @jackbrennan1393
    @jackbrennan1393 2 роки тому +873

    This honestly feels like one of the those movies were some guy leaves a trail of destruction thinking he's doing the right thing or its all for the greater good, only the realize come the end that he's entirely lost his way and the damage he's caused is irreversible.
    Many of music videos that got hit were of music that was never given an official public release from Bungie and the creators who uploaded them were doing it as a means of sharing such music with the Destiny community. But now their gone and we don't even know if they'll come back at all.

  • @BlackhatCentral
    @BlackhatCentral 2 роки тому +1039

    Just, holy hell. After all this time the little guys are getting their revenge, but this time not on their own but with A massive company. Honestly this is well deserved

  • @lolschrauber
    @lolschrauber 2 роки тому +1

    It's ridiculous that you can just so easily impersonate someone to get videos removed. UA-cam is so terrible.

  • @CondorTheBird
    @CondorTheBird Рік тому +4

    Yo that 0:40 Celtics burn hitting hard rn lol

  • @lildarkheart8708
    @lildarkheart8708 2 роки тому +988

    First off, I think Bungie should still sue UA-cam for allowing this shit to happen and not having anything in place to verify that Nick was CsC or whatever company. A single person should not be able to emulate an entire company and cause this kind of shit storm but UA-cam is going to act like suing this dude (which they aren't even doing) is enough and nothing needs to be changed, when clearly a SINGLE PERSON can shut down a plethora of content. Yes, an example is made but people with nothing to lose don't give a solitary fuck, they'll do this shit anyways if they just wanna fuck over a company for a week and then the content creators get fucked in the process.
    This goes beyond just using a little ditty that's blocked like a titty, this shit is unacceptable and as a company better measures need to be taken, they have the coin and they can expand support so someone should bring this shit to their attention cause they're still not seeing it.

    • @R1ptide_Drag0n
      @R1ptide_Drag0n 2 роки тому +30

      It's a problem for animators as well. People will file copyright claims and pretend to be the original artist

    • @mr.infernal1380
      @mr.infernal1380 2 роки тому

      I agree, even tho I only read like 1/3 of that

    • @BaldRice
      @BaldRice 2 роки тому +17

      It's so funny to me that UA-cam is literally a part of Google, by far one of the biggest companies in the world, every single browser like Brave and Opera GX use the google search engine, and they can't even manage to get a support team. Even Doordash has better support than UA-cam. It's actually mind blowing that they can think its okay, after all this time. Its been at least a decade this has been an issue. And they couldn't give less of a shit than they currently do. I absolutely despise every company who's "support" is just a link to commonly asked questions, because if my question was commonly asked, I wouldn't be using their support lmao. For me support is a last option compared to simply searching an issue up.

    • @sup-fc9gn
      @sup-fc9gn 2 роки тому

      i disagree. the system can be abused but the person abusing the system should be the one sued

    • @algorithm5769
      @algorithm5769 2 роки тому

      But even if Bungie were to sue UA-cam I don’t think it would even accomplish much, since Bungie loses, I mean as big as Bungie is, there is no way they are getting past the fat stack of lawyers that UA-cam owns not to mention they Google is UA-cam’s parent company, they’ll just run Bungie’s money out to dry at least I think.

  • @winsonwieny6720
    @winsonwieny6720 2 роки тому +1374

    Charlie would never get sued by UA-cam. He’s an absolute unit and UA-cam is the one who owes him 76 million robux

    • @forgivezharion1261
      @forgivezharion1261 2 роки тому +6

      Ratio + yb better + nobody cares + this u 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻👶🏽

    • @MrBillyBob0
      @MrBillyBob0 2 роки тому +33

      @@BaitPolice thank you for saving the world officer

    • @drivenexcuse3997
      @drivenexcuse3997 2 роки тому +4

      @@forgivezharion1261 oh no now bots reply to comments now

    • @h.plovecat2798
      @h.plovecat2798 2 роки тому +4

      @@BaitPolice thank you for your service Mr.

    • @GwainSagaFanChannel
      @GwainSagaFanChannel 2 роки тому +1

      @@forgivezharion1261 bot smh

  • @wisedylan
    @wisedylan Рік тому

    These automated systems really need to be addressed. Companies may save money by taking these processes away from employees, but the amount of bad PR and lack of solutions really drive the last nail into the coffin of this archaic system. Get real people who can make real differences back in the seat of these customer service positions.

  • @OddEyeGuy
    @OddEyeGuy 3 місяці тому +1

    UA-cam report system has to fucking change. If someone strikes you in order to get that strike removed, you have to provide all of your personal information and the person who strikes you can see it but the person who initiated the strike has to provide zero information.

  • @trailmixvids
    @trailmixvids 2 роки тому +495

    You know, this person is absolutely crazy. However, their actions causing Bungie to have issues with UA-cam might actually result in a positive change in the system, hopefully.

    • @RobotronSage
      @RobotronSage 2 роки тому +35

      Not really otherwise they'd be suing UA-cam for the 7.6 million $
      Personally i want to see big tech duke it out with eachother if we're not getting antitrust breakups / class actions

    • @RustyRusty
      @RustyRusty 2 роки тому

      @Kavetion i agree

    • @Zuignap
      @Zuignap 2 роки тому +20

      Most likely not, youtube only does negative change, never positive

    • @ack7956
      @ack7956 2 роки тому +17

      @@Zuignap "Our support systems we have in place suck? Our copyright system is heavily biased and flawed? Can't reach our department heads easily?" * Breaks dislike button *

    • @wenkunliu9984
      @wenkunliu9984 2 роки тому

      @@ack7956 Yep, pretty much.

  • @ishtarsdonut4489
    @ishtarsdonut4489 2 роки тому +665

    Important additional note to this story. Lord Nazo was a part of a subset of the Destiny community that uploads music to UA-cam. Most of Destiny's music isn't published by Bungie, so there is a dedicated community of people who will take tracks from the game and edit them into listenable versions that get posted to UA-cam. Lord Nazo was communicating with other members of the same community while he was on his striking spree, absolutely wild scenario. He also would have been totally fine if he hadn't been posting some of the *only* music that Bungie actually published officially.
    Funny tidbit is that he might have gotten away with it if he hadn't swung too big. Bungie didn't really start taking action until they realized that one their biggest, most brand safe creators ( Aztecross) got hit by a strike that made absolutely no sense.

    • @RoanWitchArt
      @RoanWitchArt 2 роки тому +79

      Byf was one of the first ones hit iirc, and he immediately brought it up to Bungie, who than started to investigate. I don't think that Aztecross was the sole reason, I don't think there was a sole reason other than that Nazo started to do this in the first place.
      Bungie has always placed a huge focus on their community, and puts in a huge amount of work to protect the community. They are constantly doing charity drives, community interactions, community spotlights, creator spotlights, and have open communication with the community. They even have public employee spotlights to celebrate their staff, and according to glassdoor, this isn't just base level PR. Bungie seems to honestly really care about their people.
      So someone impersonating them and ruining their community focused image was going to get slapped, even if they avoided some of the biggest names.

    • @brandoncook6190
      @brandoncook6190 2 роки тому

      Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help

    • @zackestin1368
      @zackestin1368 2 роки тому +15

      I mean im sure destiny channel videos themselves getting hit probablyy hit their eyes too

    • @memeking3953
      @memeking3953 2 роки тому +16

      @@brandoncook6190 ay yo why did you even comment this?

    • @urbainleverrier1
      @urbainleverrier1 2 роки тому +13

      @@memeking3953 its a bot, ignore them

  • @shadowgodssj3686
    @shadowgodssj3686 2 роки тому +2

    It's funny coz Bungie's 'support' is literally forums from other people having the same problems.

  • @LittleLotteWanders
    @LittleLotteWanders Рік тому

    I still don’t know why UA-cam doesn’t make you provide proof that you own the copyright before they’ll just funnel money to random people that make a claim.

  • @ryans6016
    @ryans6016 2 роки тому +166

    Fun Fact: Submitting a complaint via regular channels is 3-30 days depending on the business/industry. Submitting a complaint via social media by directly calling out the business nets you a turnaround time of 48-72 hours.

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 Рік тому +7

      That's extremely fucked, but I see why. If you go through the backends of a business, nobody else sees the complaint you're submitting, and thus they don't have to care. When you show it to the whole world to see, they have to fix that shit immediately or else they stand to lose business.

    • @Sunless1337
      @Sunless1337 Рік тому

      Social media managers are blamed if shit goes sideways on Twitter, trends, and its not dealt with promptly.
      Lawsuit pops up? Well that's money involved, CEO/shareholders panick and the lawyers get a call to go full find-a-b*tch.
      UA-cam's bot support has no one to blame other than the CEO for making their "support" work that way, abd they sure as heck won't officially take that blame, so there's just silence.

  • @jennah5853
    @jennah5853 2 роки тому +244

    UA-cam definitely needs real life people looking at copyright claims to be approved and whoever is making those claims need more than just an email

    • @steadychasingmoneybands6213
      @steadychasingmoneybands6213 2 роки тому +19

      @@sudanemamimikiki1527 you look at the reports not every single video posted duuuuuur

    • @burberryswitchblade2242
      @burberryswitchblade2242 2 роки тому +21

      Thats physically impossible to do. Copyright laws themselves need to be changed to keep up with modern times.

    • @sapnupua5
      @sapnupua5 2 роки тому +6

      ikr if tumblr of all places can handle checking each time someone wants to submit a blaze post, yt can definitely handle it

    • @steadychasingmoneybands6213
      @steadychasingmoneybands6213 2 роки тому

      @@sudanemamimikiki1527 lmao 10% aren’t being reported wtf are you even talking about

    • @MrSqurk
      @MrSqurk 2 роки тому +1

      @@sudanemamimikiki1527 let's say it's 0.01% that's only 72 videos a day. Now it's trivial.

  • @teamofone1219
    @teamofone1219 2 роки тому

    This is why UA-cam needs better management so something like this doesn’t happen.

  • @jfangm
    @jfangm 6 місяців тому

    I went in circles with Amazon account support trying to get my password changed until I finally got sick of it and closed my account. It isn't just UA-cam.

  • @willypancake1245
    @willypancake1245 2 роки тому +186

    The way he orchestrated those DM's to fool the other guys into thinking he was on their side is some Palpatine level planning and plotting.

    • @doctorm3518
      @doctorm3518 2 роки тому

      Kinda psychotic if you think about it.

    • @coyote4326
      @coyote4326 2 роки тому +17

      It WOULD have been, if he didn't do it in the most foolish way possible, by practically telling them all exactly how he did it step by step under the guise of "I bet you he did it like this". I mean, there's a difference between being able to know the mind of the perpetrator, and somehow knowing every last minute detail of how they committed the crime to an uncanny degree.
      "So, he was sitting there at his computer, probably just got finished watching a rerun of Rick and Morty, season 2 episode 4, wearing size nine Nikes, with a red and white stripped polo and some gray dickies... but not the knew kind of dickies, the old kind. You know the kind I'm talking about, the ones that had that little strip of stitching across the knee and the extra pocket on the lower left back pant leg? Then he took a drink from his extra large Coca Cola he had gotten from McDonalds about three hours and 23 minutes ago which was kind of starting to go flat and watered down from the melted ice, as he began to open up his Mozilla Firefox browser to pull up UA-cam, which was still out of date two versions because he didn't like some of the new Firefox UI features they had implemented in the previously released version..."

    • @annaaquitaine4225
      @annaaquitaine4225 2 роки тому +9

      The main difference being that Palpatine was good at it

    • @eyesofthecervino3366
      @eyesofthecervino3366 2 роки тому +9

      *shooting himself with Force lighting
      "Oh, Anakin, save me! Oh, why would the Jedi do this?"

    • @annaaquitaine4225
      @annaaquitaine4225 2 роки тому +4

      @@eyesofthecervino3366 lmao maybe it was Palpatine level planning then

  • @Shavaaa
    @Shavaaa 2 роки тому +390

    the fact that bungie went this far to protect its creators makes me feel some hope for possible change on youtube

    • @tserra529
      @tserra529 2 роки тому +37

      they did it because it was hurting their reputation + their own channels got targeted as well

    • @Shavaaa
      @Shavaaa 2 роки тому +26

      @@tserra529 Bungie has always been very community focused, obviously this hurts the trust they have with the community a lot, so they took action. there arent many other studios that would do the same as bungie did, beeing open to the issue and suing the shit out of bad actors

    • @michaels1719
      @michaels1719 2 роки тому +16

      They're not protecting the creators, they're protecting their reputation, content creators are bungie's leverage, as content creators spread the word of bungie's product basically for free, business as usual.

    • @callmezeldaonemoartime
      @callmezeldaonemoartime 2 роки тому +2

      They literally ruined a guys life but ok

    • @ReasonMakes
      @ReasonMakes 2 роки тому +3

      Nothing will change on UA-cam. Google is too rich and too evil.

  • @user-tw2kr6hg4r
    @user-tw2kr6hg4r 2 роки тому +2

    Well, he better call Saul.

  • @ColesCaiin
    @ColesCaiin Рік тому +2

    I thought the cord was a piece of hair on my phone screen and try to get it off lol

  • @RavenMenel
    @RavenMenel 2 роки тому +695

    UA-cam as a company has been a joke for some years now. The copyright system is broken, even fake companies claim many videos even from the people who actually own the content, the coding on the site is always so buggy, and even high end companies and youtubers have a hard time getting in touch with anyone. The only reason I am still here is to watch people like you, Charlie. Screw the company I am here for the creators who actually make an effort.

    • @lion3217
      @lion3217 2 роки тому +13

      Exactly the creators are the only reason why I’m here. UA-cam is honestly pathetic

    • @alliexcx5576
      @alliexcx5576 2 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @superhappygamer1162
      @superhappygamer1162 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah. We need a revolution!

    • @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet
      @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet 2 роки тому +2

      I can hear someone said that using a GTA SA theme song in your video(s) can receive a copyright strike 🤦
      That’s a stupid example

    • @supersoldiergaming4464
      @supersoldiergaming4464 2 роки тому +1

      Same

  • @MrDoyle-ky4he
    @MrDoyle-ky4he 2 роки тому +475

    This is like leaving a loaded gun in a playground and getting mad when a child picks it up and shoots someone. I'd argue that the majority of fault is on UA-cam's end for absolutely refusing to fix what has been a known problem for years.

    • @infernostormy2985
      @infernostormy2985 2 роки тому +11

      This isn't a case of a child though, it's if a grown adult did that, both parties are to blame, but the adult is more to blame as they pulled the trigger

    • @aceplay4448
      @aceplay4448 2 роки тому +48

      @@infernostormy2985 they are both equally to blame, if UA-cam fixed the system and didnt neglect creators, it wouldn’t have happened. If the individual didn’t exploit the system, it wouldn’t have happened.

    • @infernostormy2985
      @infernostormy2985 2 роки тому +3

      @@aceplay4448 True

    • @NobleKanna
      @NobleKanna 2 роки тому +5

      Or letting a Halo grunt live and getting mad when it starts to shoot at you.. Get it?? Because bungie made Halo??

    • @datboy038
      @datboy038 2 роки тому +1

      @@aceplay4448 not equal i’d say a 70% the guy 30% youtube. At most if you absolutley want to see youtube burn it’s a 60-40

  • @andrewsnyder5593
    @andrewsnyder5593 2 роки тому

    This is like saying how easy it is to murder someone while having a knife inside their chest

  • @Skyrimlizard
    @Skyrimlizard Рік тому

    UA-cam could do absolutely nothing and still make money. The fact they can’t do some basic things to run the website is sad

  • @Caluben
    @Caluben 2 роки тому +169

    As someone rather on the smaller side of UA-cam who does upload Destiny content, it was a scary few days of watching Destiny content creators get striked and possibly losing their channels. Anyone's livelihood could've just been gone, and those were the big boys.
    But when Bungie themselves got hit as well, that's when the story got absolutely wild because just... how? However, then seeing Bungie's massive support for its community is so loving, while UA-cam's joke of system is so sad.

    • @beowulf6555
      @beowulf6555 2 роки тому +10

      yooo its the dude that hangs out with zanny, glad you survived man

    • @mandalorkayla8001
      @mandalorkayla8001 2 роки тому +3

      casual Caluben in the comments ok

    • @codafett
      @codafett 2 роки тому

      Loving? You sound like a battered housewife, Bungie treats us horribly.

    • @user-mo6wo2mk9m
      @user-mo6wo2mk9m 2 роки тому +2

      ​​@@codafett they really don't, compared to almost any other game company they do treat the community well

    • @ayyapy6441
      @ayyapy6441 2 роки тому

      @@codafett bungie treat their community better than 90% other company. Not like bungie is the best but one of good one. They still listen to community.

  • @tonk4824
    @tonk4824 2 роки тому +205

    I feel like bungie should sue UA-cam instead of this dude. UA-cam literally took down multiple videos all because youtube wouldn't take the time to make sure that the copyright claims were real and coming from a genuine company and not some dude pretending to be one

    • @jasperhorne
      @jasperhorne 2 роки тому +34

      The guy still impersonated a copyright claim company and striked videos and creators who were completely innocent, why shouldn't he be sued? He also played the victim card while stabbing his fellow destiny creators in the back and blamed it all on Bungie, it's fucking vile.

    • @zonegaming3498
      @zonegaming3498 2 роки тому +2

      @@jasperhorne he said both

    • @wright5328
      @wright5328 2 роки тому +2

      instead? no they should sue both

    • @nomoretwitterhandles
      @nomoretwitterhandles 2 роки тому +5

      @@zonegaming3498 A REPLY said both. OP did not say both. Use your eyes.

    • @headcollecter3000
      @headcollecter3000 2 роки тому

      they should definitely sue the guy for everything he has lmao

  • @Luziehl
    @Luziehl Рік тому

    the guy replicated death note so well, even got the same ending as light yagami

  • @nrnoble
    @nrnoble 2 місяці тому

    Very likely it took the CEO of Bungie calling the CEO of YT to get any traction, or Bungie's law firm contacting YT's law firm.

  • @rabbadoodles4522
    @rabbadoodles4522 2 роки тому +1091

    I'm glad Nick is getting what he deserves. I also heard about that story and I can't blame Bungie. They only wanted to take down UA-cam content creators who basically Copy and Paste their sound track and everything because the sound tracks are copy righted which is illegal and then that bozo going on a rampage.

    • @nawimnot
      @nawimnot 2 роки тому +68

      @@brandoncook6190 what

    • @TwinShards
      @TwinShards 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah i get that it shouldn't be allow to simply copy-paste sound track that are copyrighted but what annoying me is when you want to play a game that has copyright music in it you CAN NOT play the game with music on if you plans on uploading it to youtube because you'll get hit by the Content ID bull crap.
      Imo, it make absolutely no sense that your videos can be hit by "Content ID" while playing the very game the musics have been injected in. Right now i can't play any music or vfx sound track in Need For Speed Hot Pursuit ReMastered because of this dumb reason.

    • @PineappleBaconPizza
      @PineappleBaconPizza 2 роки тому +5

      @@nawimnot it's a bot I'm pretty sure

    • @The_Worst_Warlock
      @The_Worst_Warlock 2 роки тому

      And Bungie has the OSTs on their own channel so-

    • @minecraftgravityguy
      @minecraftgravityguy 2 роки тому +1

      @@The_Worst_Warlock That doesn’t mean their mixing of the tracks are complete or the best available version. Its a problem for example with FF7 Remake’s official soundtrack because it is lacking a lot of tracks and complete versions or extended versions but the copyright owners (SquareEnix) constantly nuke every video of it on the platform via bots/content id/manually, so no extended version, no remixes, no covers, no different mixing of audio, nothing. You either buy the incomplete product or play and capture the game without audio if you want the missing tracks and mix it yourself.

  • @grandpapoison
    @grandpapoison 2 роки тому +656

    honestly I wish bungie could have the funds to sue UA-cam to encourage more of a response to its creator and help, especially during this quantum tv saga that is still unresolved and its crazy how Susan will bow down to big corps when threatened and yet does nothing to help the ones that actually pay their lively hood. its a food chain system that creators like Charlie are treated like bottom of the barrel ants.

    • @janky477
      @janky477 2 роки тому

      You really just don't understand how anything works, do you?

    • @TsunaXZ
      @TsunaXZ 2 роки тому

      I thought you're Muaxh03

    • @imyourmaster77
      @imyourmaster77 2 роки тому +18

      Lemme tell ya something. UA-cam is a huge loss for google. It doesn't even break even. This is why there will never be an alternative. The only reason google keeps the lights on is because this is the biggest pool of information for algorythms to learn from in the world. They don't really care about the creators.

    • @PrakharBaisakhiyar
      @PrakharBaisakhiyar 2 роки тому +16

      @@imyourmaster77 can you link me to some of that information... Im making a video and doing content on just this topic. If you would be able to share me with whatever you have/know it would be a huge help... If you want ill share my socials to connect... 🙏

    • @turgor127
      @turgor127 2 роки тому +8

      ​@@imyourmaster77 Where did you get info about youtube being loss for google? Logically it could explain why there is no competition in video hosting but i would be interested in real data\arguments.

  • @thedoopa3169
    @thedoopa3169 Рік тому +1

    And know lawyers have even more dirt we know nothing about

  • @TarianJEDTech
    @TarianJEDTech Рік тому

    This is exactly what happened with the Shueisha claims in a lot of cases. It happened to a UA-cam channel I help manage.

  • @Lenape_Lady
    @Lenape_Lady 2 роки тому +293

    What’s crazy is that he’d have had a ton of support if:
    1) His content wasn’t a straight rip
    2) He didn’t try to take down other innocent creators

    • @brandoncook6190
      @brandoncook6190 2 роки тому +5

      Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help

    • @Six_6-
      @Six_6- 2 роки тому +14

      @@brandoncook6190 i guess its bad lol

    • @Lenape_Lady
      @Lenape_Lady 2 роки тому

      @@brandoncook6190 Yea. But you’re allowed to be annoyed and frustrated. Maybe have someone talk to his parents? Abduction usually = r*pe so….that’s not something to wish for. But a good ol slap in the head never hurts.

    • @penguinexpert6581
      @penguinexpert6581 2 роки тому +13

      He’d have a ton of support if he didn’t do the worst things from the list???? 😱 😱 NO WAYYYYYY

    • @michaelwu9892
      @michaelwu9892 2 роки тому +5

      that's literally the two exact reasons why he's in the situation right now

  • @mutantraze3681
    @mutantraze3681 2 роки тому +287

    The 2nd dumbest thing ab this is any hate the community managers got for this. Like Bungie literally encourages streamers and content creators to stream any day 1 raid and Bungie even made a promo for it. Assuming Bungie would issue content claims for gameplay is ridiculous. The only copyright they enforce is stuff their channels posts and soundtracks since there’s already a way to get those

    • @whisperofthebookworm5341
      @whisperofthebookworm5341 2 роки тому +13

      I remember all the articles during the takedowns. Most of them just put the blame on Bungie. It was just after the announcement of the Sony acquisition too…

    • @blast_invader4420
      @blast_invader4420 2 роки тому +2

      Check out wargaming lmao before you doubt anything. Bought a community world of warships tournament agreeing not to change anything. Presumably adding carriers and submarines at some point to it, where the tournament existed to exclude those classes. Now they are banning many of the most popular streamers in the tournament from casting it because they have said bad stuff about the company.

  • @rainwaysyt
    @rainwaysyt 2 місяці тому +1

    This made the ruben sim lawsuit look tame.

  • @AvertedVision
    @AvertedVision Рік тому

    Holy shit Triplewreck has let himself go, went 40 days and 40 nights in the desert without water and food.

  • @KiieLuka
    @KiieLuka 2 роки тому +412

    UA-cam: doesn't answer Bungie's request
    Bungie: God, that's what you guys have to go through?

    • @psyphersky2552
      @psyphersky2552 2 роки тому +14

      Every other UA-camr: *J. Jonah Jameson laugh track*

    • @sirwaylonthe1st239
      @sirwaylonthe1st239 2 роки тому +1

      @@BaitPolice are you a good bot?

    • @focalpoint._
      @focalpoint._ 2 роки тому +14

      @@BaitPolice Doing gods work, man

    • @bigdaddydal7763
      @bigdaddydal7763 2 роки тому +2

      @@BaitPolice A good officer?

    • @brandoncook6190
      @brandoncook6190 2 роки тому

      Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help

  • @nihil_est_divinum
    @nihil_est_divinum 2 роки тому +206

    What scares me the most, is not that he was a fraud, but the fact, that they could track him easly, but they had to FORCE Google to do it. Imagine a smaller content creator getting scammed and demand someone's identity to get back what he lost, and noone would bet an eye on it.
    It's like: you can see all the fish, but just the anglers are allowed to pull them from the lake. God help us if we do something, and then someone tracks us.

    • @Zamusss
      @Zamusss 2 роки тому +3

      Been long but it's not a huge deal, afaik the guy used personal info when he set up the accounts used to impersonate Bungie, when you go ahead and fight to court the person issuing the takedowns YT will provide you as it must the legal info of the other party, this isn't normally done as your average joe cannot afford to take matters into court this guy just happened to decide to piss off a company with both money and lawyers to follow through the proper process.

    • @cloudsteele1989
      @cloudsteele1989 2 роки тому +1

      As the other guy said, you usually have to go through police, prove there is a crime, then they get a court order to force a company to give up information. Otherwise the company is breaking the law if there is an information protection clause in the user agreements. And if that wasn't the case, that's when you would pray to God, because literally anyone could easily find whoever they wanted.

  • @henryfunk6087
    @henryfunk6087 Рік тому

    I’m convinced UA-cam doesn’t have a real person looking at those support requests they just get filtered into someone’s trash bin

  • @jasonkhangle
    @jasonkhangle 2 роки тому +1

    Just remember that bungie got acquired by sony for $3.6 billion, and yet they got the same treatment 😭

  • @Olivia-dg4fb
    @Olivia-dg4fb 2 роки тому +750

    I watched this all go down and it was insane to see. Bungie is a pretty great company and let's a lot of fan creations happen. You can have 80% their content and 20% yours and they'll allow it. I remember first seeing it and I was so confused because Bungie encourages fan creations, they do videos of the week/artists of the week. They have contests for the best dressed guardians and do a lot of stuff for charity. Also giving creators spotlights, I've seen a lot of creators I didn't know about because of that. It definitely tanked their reputation badly but I'm sure they earned it back and more because of this.

    • @fuckinantipope5511
      @fuckinantipope5511 2 роки тому +64

      Yea, Bungie is actually awesome. They had their time when D2 content Was quite thin after parting with Activision, but they got a lot better since Beyond Light and especially Witch Queen was a blast.
      Can't wait to see what they have in store for us now that they are owned by Sony

    • @RaijinGod-Indra
      @RaijinGod-Indra 2 роки тому

      Yeah Bungie is fantastic 😂
      The d2 content is their store, fuck 'em.

    • @emvagabond2891
      @emvagabond2891 2 роки тому +6

      I like bungie but i cant stand how we have to pay for everything in games like D2. If i buy a game once i expect the future content to be free because i bought the game. I payed for witch queen but i have to pay for beyond light and all other dlc's, its too much. Not to mention the future expansions

    • @RaijinGod-Indra
      @RaijinGod-Indra 2 роки тому +8

      @@emvagabond2891 big true, its my biggest gripe with Bungie and how they deal with D2, the way D1 was dealt with was better for new and old players.

    • @fuckinantipope5511
      @fuckinantipope5511 2 роки тому +20

      @@emvagabond2891 it's a DLC. DLC always costed money

  • @ToxicAWOL
    @ToxicAWOL 2 роки тому +386

    Bungie is a company that will literally leave no quarter when it comes to defending their community. Ever since Halo they have been very engaging with the community, creating events, having cool achievements and goals for the players to get, as well as celebrations for anniversaries. For example, they had a 30th anniversary that brought in not only guns similar to the Halo weapons, but also gave the Destiny 2 community the legendary magnum as an exotic, built like a homage to the OG. They even give weekly updates which in itself becomes a little event on seeing what Bungie has been working on. There are very few companies that work in this model at the size they are at and I am grateful they went all out against them.
    Edit: Because of the whole situation, Bungie actually revised their system to allow music channels to upload old Destiny soundtracks for archival use and revamped the licensing they set up for the content creation to allow it. It goes to show how much they give a damn.

    • @TeelBick
      @TeelBick 2 роки тому +7

      Don't forget they throttled exp for d2.

    • @ToxicAWOL
      @ToxicAWOL 2 роки тому +29

      @@TeelBick yeah in Year 1, and as far as I can tell from my hours in the game now, it doesn't feel like a huge problem now.

    • @dylanholm9995
      @dylanholm9995 2 роки тому +37

      @@TeelBick dude hasn’t played in 3 years 😭😭😭

    • @gr3enmachin369
      @gr3enmachin369 2 роки тому +30

      @@TeelBick Yeaaaa my guy exp is like not even a topic of conversation anymore. Don't talk like you know the game if you haven't played since 2017.

    • @gr3enmachin369
      @gr3enmachin369 2 роки тому +5

      Don't forget the 30th anniversary brought back Gjallarhorn!

  • @aorusaki
    @aorusaki 2 роки тому +1

    This is Death Note - youtube edition. Especially when he teams up with the investigative team just like Light did

  • @D_YellowMadness
    @D_YellowMadness 2 роки тому +1

    Nick: "Delete! Delete! Delete! Delete delete delete delete-"
    Bungie: "Delete."

  • @danielvigario3477
    @danielvigario3477 2 роки тому +943

    This was such a big deal in the Destiny 2 community! Glad he's done

    • @forgivezharion1261
      @forgivezharion1261 2 роки тому +3

      Ratio + yb better + nobody asked + this you 🤓🤓👶🏽👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻

    • @benkohut3121
      @benkohut3121 2 роки тому +64

      @@forgivezharion1261 ?

    • @eyo8766
      @eyo8766 2 роки тому +76

      @@forgivezharion1261 My brother in Christ, what are you saying?

    • @CivillianNumber86
      @CivillianNumber86 2 роки тому +35

      @@benkohut3121 man I've been seeing the zharion bot for like 6-7 months now

    • @Foxyy01
      @Foxyy01 2 роки тому +8

      @@eyo8766 its a bot

  • @deepfriedteeth
    @deepfriedteeth 2 роки тому +430

    I’d see why they’d drop kick his banking account, those UA-camrs were scared stiff of losing their channel, this is a prime presentation of a company who doesn’t joke around.

    • @forgivezharion1261
      @forgivezharion1261 2 роки тому +2

      Ratio + yb better + nobody cares + this u 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻👶🏽

    • @Gangsta_Playz
      @Gangsta_Playz 2 роки тому +15

      @@forgivezharion1261 You calling us babies when you spam like one BRUH.
      Ratio + This U? 👶🏾👶🏾👶🏾

    • @noesarmiento4621
      @noesarmiento4621 2 роки тому +13

      @@BaitPolice thanks sir, you're actually doing the Lord's work

    • @llnnie
      @llnnie 2 роки тому +5

      @@Gangsta_Playz its a bot dont give it attention

    • @brandoncook6190
      @brandoncook6190 2 роки тому

      Is it bad to wish for a little kid to be abducted? There is this annoying 10 year old that lives next door who harasses not just me but all of the neighbors and rides his fourwheeler way too fast sometimes flipping people off for no reason. Freddy Krueger please help

  • @gamersbydefault763
    @gamersbydefault763 Рік тому +1

    a bit late to the party but hearing a billion dollar company has the same problems as small and large youtube creators for copywrite is both comforting and infuriating. comforting in the fact its not just us its happening to but also infuriating that it is still going on and probably will be for a good while.

  • @thewizardbrand
    @thewizardbrand Рік тому

    I wish he revealed how to do it, because actual terrorist videos require a fraudulent takedown in order for them to get deleted