Magazines let talk about them, how and how many do I run
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2023
- Today I look at mags, how I set my stuff up and how many you should have at a minimum for rifles and handguns #everydaycarry ##edcgear #firstresponders #minuteman #lawenforcement #rangegear #gearsetup #preparedness #prepared #prepper #kitselection #rifleman #ar15 #ammo #ammunition
I have no limit when it comes to mags. Every time i have extra mags I buy ammo to put them in. Every time I have extra ammo I buy more mags to put them in, It's a vicious cycle!
If I did that, I'd have over 3000 AR mags. Doesn't seem to be the best idea to do what you're saying. For my edc guns I try to keep a minimum of 5 mags but prefer to have 10 or 15 so I have some mainly for training so I don't have to worry about beating them up. $45/sig mag isn't cheap but still have 12-15. 15-20 shield plus mags, 20ish g19 mags and well over 100 20 and 30 rd 5.56 mags and only keep about 20 mags loaded with 5.56 and 20 loaded with 300blk
I always have my go setups loaded all of my Plate Carriers and chest rigs are loaded(which I have a bunch) No matter what rig I grab I have loaded mags
@Uncle Freedom thats the way it should be. I only have one belt rig and one carrier with mags, ifac, handheld light, etc. but you don't want to be grabbing this or that and having to grab mags or other equipment from one to fill another, leaving one carrier empty or half assed.
Thanks for the videos. I thought it was funny when I posted my original comment at the start of the video and as I watched the video, you started to say the same things I had already said up to the cost of the sig mags. Tactical fundamentals and knowledge are a great thing. Keep up the hard work and be safe.
@Uncle Freedom I wish I was a bigger dude. No matter how much I eat and workout, I stay slim. Damn runner's body. And I'm only about 5'9". I need a new carrier but can't read the size anymore on my current one. I don't remember if it's a small or medium
@seang1032 measure you chest nipple to nipple if it's 10 inches or close run medium plates and medium carrier if it's 9 or less run the smalls
Thank you for making this video. I really enjoyed the knowledge and information you gave out.
An AR Mapgpul mag costs less than the bullets to fill it. Get a lot of them. Having a bunch of them will make practice/training more effective as you won't be spending that time filling mags.
You should also practice with your carry mags, atleast often enough to know for sure that they are reliable. You can't know they are reliable if you don't use them.
ALL AR mags can have rounds pop out of them when dropped. Some more than others will, but all of them can. There are vids on utube showing this. Train. Don't drop mags.
When choosing new arms, research availability and cost of extra mags. This will make your choice more clear amongst models and brands.
Just found your site.Great content and presentations.Have to agree with you so far 100%.I served when 20 round mags were still in issue, I still like them because you can put them in your pockets if need be and they are not as likely to fall out.
Amen, great one.
Thanks for all your info it is greatly appreciated
Your welcome glad you enjoyed it
I love this channel thank you for everything that you do
Thank you
Cool video thanks.
You pick great topics I’m happy to see the channel grow keep up the great work I’ll keep giving it a thumbs up.
Thank you, it's nice to just talk gear
1st, I appreciate all the info. 2nd, I agree with you about the 20 round mags! I had no idea how badly I needed 20 round mags till you go to the ground and/or use a bipod! I like Magpuls, DuraMag & ASC (preferably SS), but I take Aluminum, too. I'm working my way up on 20 rders, have plenty of 30 rders, but need more there, too! Right with ya!
I use Ranger Bands on the bottom of my AR mags and use a white paint pen to label the magazine and what type of ammo it contains. I have been really enjoying your videos, especially the ones on ammo selection. Keep up the good work!
Thank you lots more ammo videos to come, 300 blk, 308, as well as powders, and more indepth talk on the bullets themselves
Why ranger bands?
Really enjoyed your video and most points you made I have followed for years, like cycling carry mags out every year to a backup. Only point we differ is I have always loaded my mags short. Single stack pistols mags I reduce 1 round. Double stack pistol and rifle mags I reduce 2 rounds. Something I probably do not need to do but have been doing it since 1971. Only exception to this are my mags for my MAS 49/56. I have 10 mags for it and only shoot a couple mags a year. They hold 10 rounds and I have left them loaded for 5 plus years without any issues. As to ProMags I avoid them as I have never found them reliable.
Great info as always. Love your content even if some of your ballistic stuff if over my head, I still try to understand and use it. I have a .300 blk and a 5.56. My Blk mags are all OD green, and my 5.56 mags are all FDE. That way I know right away what’s what. Thanks again for your info.
OR... You could use a white sharpie paint pen and write on the bottom of your mags. Separate mag storage pouches kept with each weapon might work too. By the way how can you tell in the dark? Are you going to turn on a light and give away your position? Think it through.
I buy mags and ammo every payday. A few different shops sell 30rd PMags in 10 packs for about $11/ea. Now that ammo prices are coming down again I'm buying like crazy to replace my stock that was dwindling. I've got 50 mags loaded for the range and another 20 loaded with Gold Dot. If I know I'm going to be training for a long weekend and need more mags loaded, I can load them up before I go so I'm not loading mags at the range. I can relax, get some food/drink, and absorb what we're trying to learn that day. I do the same with pistol mags.
Wow - 30 Round Pmags are the equivalent of 200 USD in my country!
You can get them $8 online sometimes with $10 shipping. $9/mag on a ten pack
I use lancer mags but I kinda love the hexmag carbon fiber .. Bought some nd they run great and lite
Good idea! I always take out the defense rounds when I go to the range! That WOULD wear out the spring. I’ve never heard of that and I never thought of that!
That's why I do videos pass on knowledge now you get to pass it to someone else
Great video. Thank you for sharing. I also just subscribed..
Awesome! Thank you!
Good info about those ASC mags
love em the stainless is too good
The folks that are convinced all mags have a break in period will lose their minds. LOL
Completely agree with your AR mag philosophy.
Just another video from me that'll hurt someone's feelings
@@unclefreedom213 lol, but only the weak ones😢
Yeah, the break in period is right the f*** now when I need it to work. Not 1000 rounds later. Same with my firearms. If I need to break it in for 500 rounds, probably not the one for me. My Glocks either run from the box or they don’t. Fortunately, they’ve all run flawless from day one with the exception of my G44 but it’s 22lr so it’s gonna do 22lr things and was purchased strictly to teach the kids. I’ve since sold it because I’m tired of the malfunctioning and the kids have graduated to 9mm
Recently found your channel man and love it, keep up the great work.
For defense/duty use I prefer duramags with magpul L-plates for bottom metal. Marked with a yellow paint pen.
For training magpul m2 p-mags. I recently started trying out the Daniel defense mags but have limited experience on them so far. Others mileage may very this is just what I prefer. I also only run 28/29 rounds just because of a bad experience with an issued M16A2 and USGI green follower mags. 😅 That was a frigging horrible combo.
I love duramag and I agree I've had more than one mag I thought I had seated fall out of the gun they all became 29 or 28 rounders from there on. Glad you're enjoying the content lots more to come
“ all of that defensive ammo doesn’t do you any good if it’s not in a magazine” 😂😂😂LMAO as Kenny said on Seinfeld “Thats GOLD!”
Nice. I take a lot of pistol classes and train/compete often and one of the most common things I see is people running crap magazines that cause malfunctions. I’m a Glock guy and only use OEM mags for serious applications. I have a rotation system where carry mags eventually get rotated to training mags.
Great video 👍 I went 💯 .300 blackout sold all my 5.56 stuff. I tell everyone mags are expendable most people have 5-8 mags unloaded and in a drawer. Me on the other hand Im ready to go all day or night Magpul and Durmag is my top choices with a few MFT Gen 2.
How do you like the MFT I want to try them then always buy more lancer or magpul
@@unclefreedom213 I have ran the first gen and this new gen with supersonic.300blackout 150,145, 124,120,110gr bullets with no issues. I will say the subsonic.300blk 220gr is a bit long for the Gen1 mags they tend to hangup during loading and firing.
Got to say you awesome!!!!
Why thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying it.
The numbering the mag and the ledger is genius! I have no idea what’s in my mags! 😂
It can be a lot of work to setup but it's been indispensable I do the same thing with med kits and plate dates that way I know when I have expiration dates coming up
For all of my magazine fed pistols, I have at least 20 mags. Of those, 4 or 5 (depending on the gun) are kept loaded like all the others, but are the only ones I use for the range.
As far as EDC, my primary is a Glock Model 45 and I carry at least 4 spare full size mags on me. Sometimes I carry my G26 instead of the G45 for concealment reasons, but my backup mags are still the 17rd variety.
And you're right about what degrades the mag springs. I literally have 1911 and AK mags that have sat fully loaded for years (decades, in some cases) and the springs are just as strong now as they were brand new.
And FYI, since my EDCs are all Glock, I have discovered that the Magpul mags actually run quite well for the range if you don't want to use factory Glock mags. My only complaint about them is that you can't take them apart like you can the Glock mags.
I run the magpuls for the range, I'm not sure on the taking them apart thing to me they are easier to take apart. I love how inexpensive they are and wish they would do them for Sig now
Love your channel! I have been working my way through your vids and have yet to find one that I didn't learn something from! Question for you. What type of loader, other than your thumbs, do you use for your 5.56 and handgun mags? BTW, I love the 20rd magazine idea. I have found that the 30's are too long at times and have just worked around it.
I use Uplula for both and also the ETS loader for AR mags. Glad you're liking the content. Thank you
Kci mags are good quality pistol mags, and you can find great prices at gunmag warehouse. I like magpul AR mags, I haven't tried ASC mags. Thanks for the great information.
Thank you I have a bunch of the KCI mags for the range as well
I would think you would want to use your "carry mags" at least occasionally at the range to ensure they work, don't introduce feed malfunctions and generally to be sure they don't have any defects
They do when I shoot off last years ammo
@@unclefreedom213 Testing a magazine when shooting off last-year's carry ammunition is not nearly enough to trust my life with them. Until a magazine has been shot to empty at least 20 times in a row without any hiccup, I would never trust my life to it. If I have a misfeed or other issue and I can identify and fix the cause, or just can't be sure it's the magazine or something else, the counter resets and it needs another 20 fill-and-shoot-to-empty cycles before I'd use it for carry. I don't have time or patience for faulty magazines, even at the range. If a magazine appears to be troublesome and I can identify it as bad, it goes in the trash. If I can't isolate a problem to the magazine, I'll try to resolve it at the range, setting any questionable magazines to the side for more testing but it either gets proven reliable or, if I just can't tell, I toss it.
@@dalepres1I at least shoot mine a number of times before I go yep, it’s good to go. Quality control doesn’t check EVERY mag. They might check a few out of every run. Doesn’t mean a hiccup didn’t happen somewhere though when that mouse was hiding in the machine and it’s made the machine make an oopsie on a mag when it fired up in the morning for the daily run but QC never check that one
@@dalepres1save them for malfunction training
Just ordered 5 20 rounders, thanks for the reference. Also tagged you in the order comments, maybe you can get some free mags or a little kick back. Wise words, keep ‘em coming.
Awesome thanks for that!
I've thrown away a good few mags, that failed too many times. Like 2 times is too many.
Alright brother. Im gonna hit that subscribe button. Dont let me down. Good luck with your channel and God bless!
thanks for the support and I'll keep em coming
Thanks for Telling Everyone Mags are Replaceable Tools. 🤘🤠🤘
Somebody needed to do it
In Cali we’re dealing with the 10 round mags now
Gen 2 Pmags had feed lip stretching splitting issues. The gen 3's do not. I've given away all of my gen 2 moe mags. I have a alot of Okay's, Duramags. And gen 3 Pmags. I'm sure the stainless Duramags are better than most of the other GI mags. But at $9.95 a pop the aluminum ones work good. They are welded the same as the stainless.
I love the aluminum AR mags the best. Not the Pro Mag dog shit! I’ve had good luck with Magpul and Lancer also.
Pro Mag=maximum suck.
Great for malfunction drills though...
I was at a match about a decade ago.
We shot from a tower then had to go down a slide to get down.
When I reloaded at the top of the slide, I dropped my aluminum GI mag and it slid down the slide.
On the next stage, I kept having malfunctions. Dropped the mag and finished the stage.
Upon review, the feed lips had became very slightly bent from hitting the ground at the bottom of the slide. Not enough to notice without very close inspection, but it kept me "out of the fight".
Been Pmags for me ever since.
The ones I keep loaded, I use the snap on covers to take pressure off of the feed lips...
I enjoy the 20 round AR mags as much as the 30 round mags but when I say that to my shooting friends they think I am crazy for lowering the capabilities of the rifle. Happy to hear you like the 20 round mags as well. I do have a question about using magnets to secure guns in different locations. Is there any known downside to using magnets?
I have never found one I am cautious though since I primarily wear mechanical watches and magnets are pure evil to mechanical watches. I have magnet setups in my cars, under my desk and in an end table in the house
This dude is serious lol
Good tips man
I have tons of mags and when I hit the range I’ll load up mags the night before and I’ll randomly toss a snap cap in rifle and pistol mags to simulate a ftf to practice without a training scar
Excellent practice I do the same thing
I'm looking to put together a longer AR15 as a "Mk12 at home" sort of thing, so I figure a few 20 rounders for possible prone stuff would be nice.
I'm quite torn between magpul, and lancer offering specifically in 20 rounders.
Magpul for the track record/alleged reliability advantage, or lancer for the translucent options for easier round tracking? To this day people still report discernable reliability differences between the two brands, and Magpul unfortunately does not make a windowed 20 rounder.
I like em both but my choice for anything dmr work is the ASC stainless steel 20 rounders if you have tobhave polymer lancer if you're a handloader magpul if you're only shooting factory ammo
Hey Unc. I figured out in your video yesterday why I like your content. It’s because I’m an info junkie when you give us your opinion then you tell us why and back it with your personal experience and shit loads of data. You also explain everything very clearly without dumping things down. Thanks and keep up the great work. Ps what do you mark your mags with every thing I’ve tried ware’s out?
Sharpie paint markers and I'll keep the videos coming
@@unclefreedom213 thanks
Unc this is the best advice I’ve ever heard and put in to action in my own life it has been easier to setup for training because I shoot at least once a week so preloading my training mags has really improved my training time at the range. I’ve also taken the time to clearly make all of my mags thank you. Also I love the lancer mags for my AR 15
Hey uncle freedom, do you have extenders in your 19x mags? My 19x mags are 17 rounders
Any reason not to use the 22rd 40cal mags? Delta used them vetting G22 vs 2011s in 40 so I think they are more than capable
You hit on a very important thing. Most people key on weapons maintenance. BUT maintenance of the ancillary item ie. mags is just as if not more important . the ancillary stuff makes the weapon work.
I’m sure you do it but you did mention it. It’s a good idea to fire your old carry ammo out of the mag it was loaded in when you cycle to fresh Ammo and cycle the mags.
I always run some draw and reload drill from my carry rig when it's time to swap my concealed ammo out. Great point.
I live in Los Angeles, formerly "impossible" to conceal carry. Fortunately, due to the Bruen verdict handed down by the Supreme Court, L.A.P.D is accepting applications for CCw's.
I love to hear that , Hawaii still isn't doing the right thing. I wish yall could just be normal Americans. I'm not a fan of Cali mainly the politics and culture but California itself is beautiful country. It would be a sportsman's paradise if it was a free state
@@unclefreedom213 I'm born and raised in L.A.,and there's a lot of great things in Cali, but since covid, I now work full time from home, which means I can now move out of Cali and move to America. Contemplating Texas.
How many times will you run/cycle a duty/carry mag before you designate it good? Or do you trust them straight out of the package and load them up?
Always test usually 3 5 shot groups at 50, 3 at 100. I will do some standard drills ie. Bill, presidente, V drill, ready up and reloads. Usually 159 to 200 rounds of whatever ammo. Then I finish pit by either getting up with Hornady or shooting the barrier protocol to whatever the bullet is designed to do. like frag inside a rltargey or be barrier blind. Takes a fair amount of time and money but alsoa reason I put my results on here for others to use
Have you tried Duramag speed 20 rounder mags? Are they g2g?
IWI in my op makes the best steel mag period.. they also have nice spring and follower kits.. followers come in like 10 different colors so you can designate a color to each type of round you run.. that’s all I will run for duty or self defense period.. Pmags lancers all that for training.. even got a few alum gi mags still where the feed lips haven’t turned into razor blades or cracked yet..
When it comes to pistols I run exclusively pmag for training and nothing but factory bodies with quaintly name brand plus alum plates for added weight to drop free.. even my factory Glock mags I run alum even if not plus upping cause it just helps them drop free easier..
I don’t care if they are $60 sig mags.. I have Al the quality aftermarket stuff.. for my life depends on it I will spend the $60 per mag if need be to have factory stuff.. that couple extra bucks to have a couple extra other mags isn’t worth the oh shit said company had a bad run of mags and you find that out the hard way..
I do the exact same type of mag rotational stuff only thing I do differently.. all my mags are loaded even training mags.. I have one set of duty that is active one set out of rotation and those are empty.. mostly cause I got enough shit already.. every chest rig, belt setup, plate carrier etc is fully loaded and ready.. to the point they each have holstered pistols in them as well.. all that gear is in a gear locker.. all regular firearms in the safe, and for home defense shit and edc.. I even have a smaller gear locker next to my night stand that stays open when I’m home locked when I’m not. But when that has a quick attach belt system cause underwear doesn’t carry a soare mag very well..
All.of my carriers and rigs are loaded plus mag bags for the oh shit situation. my training mags aren't loaded mainly because I set those up to the drills I'm running
Every time I go to the gun store, I pick up at least a couple AR mags regardless what I am going there to get. I have about as many still in the Packages as I do open and loaded.
Love ASC mags. Never thought to buy direct. They have some colored mags which I’m not really into but picked some up anyway for the wife and my daughters. AL 30 rounders in pink were only $10. Grabbed that one for my little one. Prob should have bought 10 more and hit them with the rattle can. 😂
I love their stainless mag best on the market
There's something about the idea of telling a bad guy he was stopped with a pink gun and a pink magazine that just makes me smile.
I only run the duramags these days . Just preference . All my training mags are pmags . I have had terrible luck with feed lip failures with hex mags. .
oh yeah its bad with the hexmags once I trash all these I won't buy anymore
How many test cycles before you trust a mag for duty or will you trust a brand out of the package?
Factory mags only for duty in pistol all with 10 firings on them. For AR there are some that have just earned their place SS ASC mags, Lancer and magpul I trust I've run 100s of those brands combined and they have all worked. When I get a new gun I take out 5 or so of each mag and make sure the gun runs great on them.
Great vid. How about a top go to and a top no go for mags.
Maybe I can do a short on this
I won’t carry a mag until I’ve trained with that mag a little bit and know that that specific mag is functioning perfectly out of the box.
How many loadings do you want to put through a magazine before you deem it for Duty?
10 mags full 7 if uts a known quantity like CZ and Glock mags
When going prone with 30 round mags, they have an exercise where you turn the gun sideways to get it low enough.
any cant to a gun if your shoot at distance will completely ruin your shot. at short range it doesn't matter any angle at all at distance an it'll trash your shooting.
How do you feel about 60 round Magpul drums for use in AR15? I feel like they are gimmicky and i dont know if i can trust them
I've never had mine be unreliable but I still don't trust it the way i trust my surefire mags.
I dont trust Lancer magazines. Had two of them loaded and both hit the ground, cracking. Granted, it was on concrete, but I don't live where soft soil is any abundance unless you want to stick out like a sore thumb.
The only after market company I trust for pistol mags is Mec-Gar. Pro Mag is garbage!
I like ETs and Magpul but if it's a steel mag Mec-Gar all the way
Czech mate
What’s your view on mag couplers? I am unfortunately limited to 10 rounders, so I have them for my 7.62 PMAGs.
I have run couplers before and still have couplers on my 12.5 which is my travel gun. That way I know of I grab that gun I have 58 rounds on me without grabbing anything else.
@@unclefreedom213 that means the side by sides. I should have been more specific, I mean coupled at the base as the 10 round mags are ridiculously short anyways. Of course that comes with some specific mag handling mechanics
you gotta do what you can in an unfree state
@@unclefreedom213 true that
If the training mags work fine, then they are good enough for what ever 🤠
Sometimes but I'm fine with some unintended malfunction drills on the range but never in operational use
I like 10-12 mags per rifle and 5-6 mags per pistol.
I keep pmag,surefeeds or lancers in different systems and use hex mags for range days. I have about 5 lancers and IME they’re the worst for rounds popping out when dropped,all of mine can be shaken hard enough (pretty violently) for rounds to fly out. But it’s not bad enough where i ever considered it to be an issue, i got them on a blem sale so maybe that’s why they were a blem 😂.
I had a RSO tell me it’s illegal to to have a bunch of loaded mags in the car to bring to the range. I said na it’s not,i have my conceal carry plus they were locked in the trunk plus it’s just not true. Then he said well how would it look if you get pulled over, i said I’ll just say I’m going to the gun range but why would they search my trunk? Then he proceeded to run a magnet over my magazines, i said oh you just want to check my ammo… just say so. Never went back to that range. I’m not trying to spend the little time i can carve out for shooting jamming mags, i always take enough loaded mags to run the drills i want to run and extra ammo incase i have time to run a few more.
Had a guy tell me it was pointless to number mags which turned into an argument. Good idea to keep a ledger, i usually just use 20rd mags or lancers for specific ammo but I’ll have to start writing it down.
Phew lots of stuff In this one lol,good shit man keep ‘em coming!
Yeah I wouldn't go back there either. Don't have that issue here thankfully the RSOs you'll see in Nebraska wanna shoot with you. I've never had an issue with rounds popping out on my Lancers but have with the Hexmags pretty frequently
@@unclefreedom213 yeah that range is ran by a bunch of retired cops in small town Ohio,they can be pricks. I found a new range to goto at a camp ground with no rso, i have to reserve my spot ahead of time but i get the place to myself which is nice. My cousin lives in Nebraska, he comes to visit sometimes and generally thinks the people here are ass holes in comparison, i think he is the asshole but 🤷♂️😂
I have several hex mags that won’t fit any ammo longer than a m193,m855 binds up in them and mk262 won’t even start. I like my lancers,the texture is nice and they feed great rounds just pop out. I can shake them up and down and get rounds to pop out,i dropped one and 5-10 rounds flew out. Again could just be why they were blems.
I take my mags apart atleast once a year to clean them, running cheap ammo suppressed gunks them up pretty good .
Why would you not train with your carry mags? How do you get enough cycles through your carry mags so that you're confident they won't jam or misfeed when you need them most?
All of my mags get shot I'm on the range twice a week and I also only carry factory or tested and proven mags for duty or defensive use. But the amount of time I spend on the range is overkill on a mag I want to depend on. It'd unnecessary wear and tear when I could be using dedicated training mags
@@unclefreedom213 That raises an interesting question. What's the average life of a magazine and where is the peak reliability curve where it's been shot enough to prove reliability but not so much as to wear it out.
I've read some gun experts talk about never carrying a gun unless it's fired 2500 rounds flawlessly. That seems like a lot to me but I trust their expertise so I accept that as a great suggestion but I might carry a gun if I've put 500 rounds without any issues. But I accept, based only on my trust of those experts, that the peak of reliability on a handgun might be around 2500 rounds.
So what's the number of cycles on a magazine that shows the peak of reliability defined as enough cycles to trust for reliability but not so many cycles as to begin to wear the thing out?
I usually keep 5 magazines for a carry gun. I may have more but 5 of them are used for carry. So I try to get 100 rounds into each one. That might be 5 to 7 consecutive, flawless cycles, other than for 1911s. If there's a flaw in a magazine and I can clean it or find some other cause to fix, and then I might want another couple hundred rounds, or twice as many flawless cycles before I would carry it - but these are my own completely subjective guesses because I have no data or science, or even just the words of trusted experts, on which to base my process.
Usually, when I get to the range, I will cycle my range mags at least 3 times, once with the carry ammo that's in it, then one or more times with cheaper ammo (usually cheapest HP but sometimes FMJ), and then again, last cycle, carry ammo again so I leave the range confident of the reliability of my gun and magazines with my carry ammunition. So I probably add 50-ish cycles a year to my carry mags. What I don't know, is where in the curve will they start to wear out?
Will they stay reliable for 300 cycles? A thousand cycles? I don't really have any clue. I've never had magazines fail from use but I also change carry guns every few years so I've never hit more than a few hundred cycles on any one magazine.
Blows living in Assachussetts my spare mag is 10 Rds. Well all my mags are ten Rds. Well. Most.
Damn that sucks
How many rifle mags you need on you for a battle situation or SHTF situation?
5 to 7 I have run more in real life but the 4 extras were in my pack
As many as you can carry. We are the militia not regular military we don't have resupply minutes away. For every day kit I have 6 on my carrier, 1 in the rifle, 2, on the outside of my pack, and 8 in a bandolier with shoulder strap.
Stay tuned my uncomfortable truths about preparedness is coming soon and I touch this very subject
Mission First Tactical is another great polymer mag
Mft mags have issues of rounds sticking and nosediving inside the magazine making it unusable in a high speed situation
@@chriswood9836 I train with mine, never had that issue but I'll keep an eye out for it
I have 4 or 5 that are due to go in the training mags when I rotate out some busted ones
@@unclefreedom213 sweet, keep us posted. I found them as a cheap training mag at a local retailer and so far they've done well for me.
Why not C-Products/Duramag 20 round SS mags rather than ASC?
I like duramag 30 rounders but i have run a ton of ASC SS mags they have been more reliable than the duramags zero feeding issues
@@unclefreedom213 ASC had a bad reputation in the past. I guess they got much better.
Thier stainless is great u have had issues with the aluminum before but never the SS
Your info is spot on, however, a lot of people can't afford your philosophy. We'll do our best though.
It's hard with some guns. It's a hell of a lot easier to have a bunch of glock mags than it is CZ, Sig or Staccato
LOL, I was wondering if you were going to get around to loading a 300 BO into a 5.56/.223 gun. That's totally No Bueno. That's one reason I like Lancer mags- it's you can see all the rounds in the mag and pretty easily spot wrong rounds. There's no such thing as too paranoid when it comes to that.
So true it's a self correcting problem if you get lax that's for sure
I'll never understand why AR magazines are sooooo much cheaper than pistol mags. They're made out of the same materials except AR mags are larger and require more materials to produce but they're like 1/4-1/2 the price of pistol mags.
Stanag, It's a standard pattern vs pistol mags generally just being harder to make reliable. Glock cracked the code for sure but even they are weird polymer mag in polymer gun
For the algorithm
I load one round at a time in the chamber in my AR, so I don't have to worry about mags.
Sorry, you must live in California
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@@theproudamerican1967 🤣 Right
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You being in law enforcement makes it easier for you . Citizens don't get the same luck carrying all all that stuff . 😮
why can't you? I Mean I wear an outer carrier and carry a handgun with rifle and reaction stuff in the truck. I train a lot in carriers but if I put a carrier on for work it's gonna be a bad day/night for somebody. I do get a lot of time to train and test guns and ammo. I ran plate carriers before I was LE
hey brotha, only have email here , would love to talk more , thanks n keep the great vids coming ,talk soon > tom !
Anyone else see the ghost....😮
Theres alot i agree with and a bit i strongly disagree with in regards to this video and mags. Personally i subscribe to rhe clint smith thought train that you should have no such thing as range/training mags they should all be ready to go to war reliable mags. Now thats alot easier to do with rifle mags than it is with pistol mags, aluminum ar15 mags i get on the regular for 9-12 bucks per mag and those are bought in sets of ten. Now when global ordinance had steel ar15 mags for litteraly sub 5 bucks a mag did I stack up on those, absolutely and they do work and are reliable cause ive actually used em in training but honestly those are more for a rainy day like you said how u buy magpul followers and springs well same idea. And that entails having a fighting rig and full loadout of mags, 7-10 per rifle of my go to which are usualy c products/duramag and okay surefeeds. Now I still like the same train of thought with pistol mags but lets be honest its alot harder to do cause of cost. With glock 17 mags usualy 20 bucks a mag, those are bought in sets of six, with the beretta 92 I go Mecgar 18rd mags at about 18-22 bucks a mag bought in sets of six, and i love the M&P 2.0 I just shoot it alot better than my glocks im more confident with it but at $35 per mag ill be honest its gonna take a lil bit for me to have as manny glock mags as S&W mags. Now when i was still brand new into this lifestyle I did cheap out and bought magpul glock mags, has it caused malfunctions for me at the range? No but I just dont like that its all polymer and doesnt have a steal liner like the glock factory mags so I sold all the ones that were still in the packaging and now i just have 1 21 or 24rd glock pmag waiting to be disposed of that I used to use for training. I swear i dont have a crush on korean manufacturing but i do have a bunch of the 33rd korean glock mags and they work 100% in my 17s but the only self defense/HD mags I trust my life to are factory glock 17 rounders whenever im carrying. I do agree with numbering ur mags, and keeping a ledger ( personally still in the process of numbering and logging everything rn) and having mags actually loaded and ready to go.
Excuse my grammar errors and lowercase I's I think alot faster than I can type on my phone.
I love Clint and his Clintisms but I disagree with him on that one. There are some mags I've seen fail more than others in mine and others weapon systems some AR mags are just better. I'll trust em just fine for being a cheap date on the range but wouldn't bet my life in them.
What are my thoughts on mags? Well shit you didn't really leave anything on the bone for me. I'll just add HEY- do all the stuff he said!!!!!!😀
Hahahaha thanks
I have a minimum of 21 mags for each firearm. Be safe my friends.
Training mags no.. you just have mags that work
highly disagree the abuse I put my training mags through it rough. I may even train with the same kind of mags, I want my fighting mags to be reliable and not on the verge of death. My training mags have thousands of cycles, beat up, step on, my fighting mags are fresh not cycled a thousand times
They may also be the fact that I'm on the range at least once a week if not more. And in a heavy training environment or school about every month
@unclefreedomvalleytacticsa7521 I get that but If your duty magazine is magpul or Lancer why not train with it. It's not like Lancer magazines are insane for the price
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader I agree and I do train with them. I bought like 200 hexmags years back and had them fail a few times in training never trusted them on duty. usually my lancers I train with are red, Robin's egg or orange makes it easier to pick mine out when you have 4 guys dumping rounds in a house
@@unclefreedom213 nice
Come on dude, from one combat veteran to one LEO to another, why would you buy inferior mags to start with. Know which "ones" are reliable in any situation and buy what you think is best. Don't buy JUNK for any reason. Buy best to last. Semper Fi!
I buy when they're on sale that's how I found ASC realized they were better than what I was running now they are a goto
Not to use your carry mags for training is the single most retarded advice ever. Not only doesn't make any sense but it is also dangerous. You should always often test what you're carrying. Plus 98%of shooters would never throw their magazines to the ground... Not that is bad to do real life training, but most people simply don't.
I have never witnessed a shooter not doing an admin unload not let thier mag hit the ground. All mags get tested but I don't run duty or defensive mags at the range I have training mags for that
@@unclefreedom213 you're saying here that when you go to the range everyone is dropping their mags? LOL C'mon man. Almost nobody does that. Funny thing is not even at war people do that for the most part LOOL The whole dropping magazines, while a perfectly valit point to train, is mostly done by some freaks who do hundreds or thousands of rounds. And then again most of those people don't do that either. You just watch too much UA-cam.
I do pretty much the same with my semi-auto handguns, and AR's. I do need to get more 20 round mags for my AR's though........
Love me some 20 rounders.